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		<title>By: The Evolution of Communication</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1736184</link>
		<dc:creator>The Evolution of Communication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the iPhone. Those that know how much I love Apple products are laughing. But I am serious. The hype on this thing is only beginning. This will imprint the culture like the iPod times 10. Think of it this way: I purchased a laptop [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the iPhone. Those that know how much I love Apple products are laughing. But I am serious. The hype on this thing is only beginning. This will imprint the culture like the iPod times 10. Think of it this way: I purchased a laptop [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PhireBird</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhireBird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally cant wait till the ubuntu linux uPhone comes out. They are going to HAVE to make one now that microsoft AND apple have really expensive hardware running their mobile o/s. They just have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally cant wait till the ubuntu linux uPhone comes out. They are going to HAVE to make one now that microsoft AND apple have really expensive hardware running their mobile o/s. They just have to.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In India, every upper-middle class person spends several hundred on phones.  I am amazed every time I go back that people can through $300 - $400 on a phone every six months when the per capita annual income is only close $1,000!

But in India, its Nokia or nothing.  Why?  Because you can toss a nokia around and it won't break, plus everyone's got a charger for like $0.30 if yours breaks.  Plus you can get parts and accessories.  I remember the last hot phone that I brought from the US back to India for a relative:  The Moto Razr.  When I brought it to India, it cost Rs. 49,000 (roughly $1200) to buy in India (i paid around $300 for an unlocked one on eBay).  No one had one (and to this day, very few people carry one) because the batteries and chargers are not available.

Now, with the Iphone, that doesn't have a replaceable battery (that I know of) and which has overpriced accessories and a fragile screen which would probably break during a routine auto rickshaw ride.  Plus, very few Indian music and movies are available on iTunes.  

When the Ipod G1 came out, it was universally panned and hated by most people except the hard-core apple fans who would buy anything that Apple made (aka mac cube).  The only reason it was successful was due to the grass-roots campaign.  People who had it, loved it, and told their friends who then also loved it.  Its simple.  The iPhone is the exact opposite.  Everyone is cheering it without even using it.  This usually leads to huge disappointment as the grass-roots recommendations never pan out as expected.  Its like the pre launch hype of the the PS3 vs. the Wii - history will def repeat itself here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In India, every upper-middle class person spends several hundred on phones.  I am amazed every time I go back that people can through $300 - $400 on a phone every six months when the per capita annual income is only close $1,000!</p>
<p>But in India, its Nokia or nothing.  Why?  Because you can toss a nokia around and it won&#8217;t break, plus everyone&#8217;s got a charger for like $0.30 if yours breaks.  Plus you can get parts and accessories.  I remember the last hot phone that I brought from the US back to India for a relative:  The Moto Razr.  When I brought it to India, it cost Rs. 49,000 (roughly $1200) to buy in India (i paid around $300 for an unlocked one on eBay).  No one had one (and to this day, very few people carry one) because the batteries and chargers are not available.</p>
<p>Now, with the Iphone, that doesn&#8217;t have a replaceable battery (that I know of) and which has overpriced accessories and a fragile screen which would probably break during a routine auto rickshaw ride.  Plus, very few Indian music and movies are available on iTunes.  </p>
<p>When the Ipod G1 came out, it was universally panned and hated by most people except the hard-core apple fans who would buy anything that Apple made (aka mac cube).  The only reason it was successful was due to the grass-roots campaign.  People who had it, loved it, and told their friends who then also loved it.  Its simple.  The iPhone is the exact opposite.  Everyone is cheering it without even using it.  This usually leads to huge disappointment as the grass-roots recommendations never pan out as expected.  Its like the pre launch hype of the the PS3 vs. the Wii - history will def repeat itself here.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1410893</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of the great futurist Paul Saffo:  "The short term impact of this stuff will be less than the hype would suggest but the long term implications will be vastly larger than we can possibly imagine today." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/cyberspace/saffo.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of the great futurist Paul Saffo:  &#8220;The short term impact of this stuff will be less than the hype would suggest but the long term implications will be vastly larger than we can possibly imagine today.&#8221; <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/cyberspace/saffo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/.....saffo.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1410664</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commercials are enticing if you don't think about it too much.  

Take this challenge: When the product finally comes out, try to perform all of the actions in this 30 second commercial as fast as you can.  I'll be really surprised if the software is as fast as shown, but even if it is, the network is DEFINITELY not that fast (the device will only support EDGE -- not 3G, as has been noted previously).  Try doing it all with one hand and the time to complete the tasks will at least double again.

That being said, we all know it will sell well initially at any price.  Supply will be short and the  legions of loyalists will be waiting in line outside the door on the 29th.  

But is this a game-changing device?  I say let's see the software.  As low as the bar is on user-friendliness of most handheld devices, the bar for user-friendly software to integrate your device with your computer is even lower.  

iTunes is what made the iPod.  Let's see if they pull the same thing off with this product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commercials are enticing if you don&#8217;t think about it too much.  </p>
<p>Take this challenge: When the product finally comes out, try to perform all of the actions in this 30 second commercial as fast as you can.  I&#8217;ll be really surprised if the software is as fast as shown, but even if it is, the network is DEFINITELY not that fast (the device will only support EDGE &#8212; not 3G, as has been noted previously).  Try doing it all with one hand and the time to complete the tasks will at least double again.</p>
<p>That being said, we all know it will sell well initially at any price.  Supply will be short and the  legions of loyalists will be waiting in line outside the door on the 29th.  </p>
<p>But is this a game-changing device?  I say let&#8217;s see the software.  As low as the bar is on user-friendliness of most handheld devices, the bar for user-friendly software to integrate your device with your computer is even lower.  </p>
<p>iTunes is what made the iPod.  Let&#8217;s see if they pull the same thing off with this product.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who think the iPhone will not have an impact outside the US...

I live in India for part of the year, the hype machine is as strong here. Everyone I know that has a "premium" phone model here wants me to get an iPhone back for them when I visit the US next. The $600 price tag isn't an issue - the ATT contract is. So, the moment we get unlocked phones, expect the demand to spike up globally.

My biggest concern is the touch-screen keypad. If that pans out - I am in line as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who think the iPhone will not have an impact outside the US&#8230;</p>
<p>I live in India for part of the year, the hype machine is as strong here. Everyone I know that has a &#8220;premium&#8221; phone model here wants me to get an iPhone back for them when I visit the US next. The $600 price tag isn&#8217;t an issue - the ATT contract is. So, the moment we get unlocked phones, expect the demand to spike up globally.</p>
<p>My biggest concern is the touch-screen keypad. If that pans out - I am in line as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smorty71</title>
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		<dc:creator>smorty71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? The iPhone is going to change everything, especially the way we think about integration with a computer?

Apple fans love to rain on MSFT's parade when they roll out a feature that Apple already has, so it's funny to see Gillmor, by way of Arrington, give "change everything" status to things that Windows/Windows Mobile users have been doing for years.

I have been able to do all of these things for several years now:

1. Sync media between my PC and my device
I can sync files between my PC and my Windows Mobile device right now (and it doesn't require iTunes!).

2. Stream content to my device
I can use SlingPlayer Mobile to stream content from my TiVo directly to my Windows Mobile device with either wifi or my provider's data plan. iPhone limits you to iTunes content that purchase and download to the iPhone. Zzzz.

3. Access the web for free
As far as I know, the iPhone won't support wifi. So, I'd have to shell out more cash for AT&#38;T's data plan in order to get fewer connectivity options. Again, not very game-changing.

4. Make phone calls with an actual keypad
This is the biggest beef I have with the iPhone. I like having a keypad to dial. I've used soft dialers in the past and I hated them. As cool as the demo looks, I'm betting it will be a pain in the @ss to use in real-world situations.

The iPhone is nothing new and it's limitations (AT&#38;T only, price, lack of features) will ensure it stays a niche, consumer product. 

Maybe Gillmor should have said, "This will change everything for the (less than) 5% of the computer market who have chosen Apple."

To me, it seems that Apple's arrogance is getting the best of them lately. Under-featured, over-hyped products that mainly appeal to people's vanity/ego (and chain you to iTunes) won't win enough people over for long. I think the Apple TV is showing us all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? The iPhone is going to change everything, especially the way we think about integration with a computer?</p>
<p>Apple fans love to rain on MSFT&#8217;s parade when they roll out a feature that Apple already has, so it&#8217;s funny to see Gillmor, by way of Arrington, give &#8220;change everything&#8221; status to things that Windows/Windows Mobile users have been doing for years.</p>
<p>I have been able to do all of these things for several years now:</p>
<p>1. Sync media between my PC and my device<br />
I can sync files between my PC and my Windows Mobile device right now (and it doesn&#8217;t require iTunes!).</p>
<p>2. Stream content to my device<br />
I can use SlingPlayer Mobile to stream content from my TiVo directly to my Windows Mobile device with either wifi or my provider&#8217;s data plan. iPhone limits you to iTunes content that purchase and download to the iPhone. Zzzz.</p>
<p>3. Access the web for free<br />
As far as I know, the iPhone won&#8217;t support wifi. So, I&#8217;d have to shell out more cash for AT&amp;T&#8217;s data plan in order to get fewer connectivity options. Again, not very game-changing.</p>
<p>4. Make phone calls with an actual keypad<br />
This is the biggest beef I have with the iPhone. I like having a keypad to dial. I&#8217;ve used soft dialers in the past and I hated them. As cool as the demo looks, I&#8217;m betting it will be a pain in the @ss to use in real-world situations.</p>
<p>The iPhone is nothing new and it&#8217;s limitations (AT&amp;T only, price, lack of features) will ensure it stays a niche, consumer product. </p>
<p>Maybe Gillmor should have said, &#8220;This will change everything for the (less than) 5% of the computer market who have chosen Apple.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me, it seems that Apple&#8217;s arrogance is getting the best of them lately. Under-featured, over-hyped products that mainly appeal to people&#8217;s vanity/ego (and chain you to iTunes) won&#8217;t win enough people over for long. I think the Apple TV is showing us all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Concrete Stain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concrete Stain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commercials look great / But plans would have to have data pack right?

so its what 90$ / mo ?

 - Plus the 600$ phone / with 2/yr agreement ...

 - that is consumerism at its best / heh :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commercials look great / But plans would have to have data pack right?</p>
<p>so its what 90$ / mo ?</p>
<p> - Plus the 600$ phone / with 2/yr agreement &#8230;</p>
<p> - that is consumerism at its best / heh :/</p>
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		<title>By: desik</title>
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		<dc:creator>desik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The important thing is the popularising of the handheld integrated device and once again Apple will lead the way ( even if it wasnt technically first ) and then firms offering slightly inferior but more practical and affordable products will follow .

I'll get excited when TechGear raves about  the  first 'no strings' $150 dollar Iphone clone and TechCrunch covers the launch of a free ad based service  offering 'unlimited'  calls and data transfer .

The revolution , or the opening shots of it anyway, will not be televised , it will be Iphoned by a select few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The important thing is the popularising of the handheld integrated device and once again Apple will lead the way ( even if it wasnt technically first ) and then firms offering slightly inferior but more practical and affordable products will follow .</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get excited when TechGear raves about  the  first &#8216;no strings&#8217; $150 dollar Iphone clone and TechCrunch covers the launch of a free ad based service  offering &#8216;unlimited&#8217;  calls and data transfer .</p>
<p>The revolution , or the opening shots of it anyway, will not be televised , it will be Iphoned by a select few.</p>
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		<title>By: Axl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who complain about the lack of tactile feedback, how often do you actually dial the number? 95% of the calls i make are to people who are already in my contact list, and when i dial, i still have to look at the phone to make sure the number is right. I rather have a larger screen than a keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who complain about the lack of tactile feedback, how often do you actually dial the number? 95% of the calls i make are to people who are already in my contact list, and when i dial, i still have to look at the phone to make sure the number is right. I rather have a larger screen than a keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to like iPhone and I'm sure it will be awesome. But after I realizied I could not type without looking on a blackjack it's hard to imagine I'll be able to do that on an iPhone either.

Of course maybe not texting while I'm driving would be a better solution :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to like iPhone and I&#8217;m sure it will be awesome. But after I realizied I could not type without looking on a blackjack it&#8217;s hard to imagine I&#8217;ll be able to do that on an iPhone either.</p>
<p>Of course maybe not texting while I&#8217;m driving would be a better solution :-p</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the people who dont understand what "the hype" is...
Dont lie to yourselves.. maybe jealousy is an issue here, becuase you will not be getting your hands on an iPhone on June 29th. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the people who dont understand what &#8220;the hype&#8221; is&#8230;<br />
Dont lie to yourselves.. maybe jealousy is an issue here, becuase you will not be getting your hands on an iPhone on June 29th. :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly,  a phone now without 3g/HSPDA is hardly likely to be "revolutionary".

But just like the ipod don't underestimate the power of Apple's marketing to sell below par products.

3 key issues:

Battery life - will apple get it wrong again. Survey says yes.
Touch screens - will they be totally impractible. most likely.
Cost. Pretty expensive for a phone whose selling point is that it looks pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly,  a phone now without 3g/HSPDA is hardly likely to be &#8220;revolutionary&#8221;.</p>
<p>But just like the ipod don&#8217;t underestimate the power of Apple&#8217;s marketing to sell below par products.</p>
<p>3 key issues:</p>
<p>Battery life - will apple get it wrong again. Survey says yes.<br />
Touch screens - will they be totally impractible. most likely.<br />
Cost. Pretty expensive for a phone whose selling point is that it looks pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this have any appeal to the business market? I could not imagine typing emails using the on-screen keyboard shown in the commercials. I could be wrong but until I can actually test it out I will stick with BlackBerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this have any appeal to the business market? I could not imagine typing emails using the on-screen keyboard shown in the commercials. I could be wrong but until I can actually test it out I will stick with BlackBerry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this hype is more to do with the fact that the US starved of any kind of decent looking handsets is finally getting something nice. Othe than the looks I don't see what all the hype is about. 

iPhone will make no ground outside the US (particularly Asia), where there are already amazing phones and its going to price out the vast majority of the users who are more than happy with a free handset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this hype is more to do with the fact that the US starved of any kind of decent looking handsets is finally getting something nice. Othe than the looks I don&#8217;t see what all the hype is about. </p>
<p>iPhone will make no ground outside the US (particularly Asia), where there are already amazing phones and its going to price out the vast majority of the users who are more than happy with a free handset.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Choma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Choma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that spoils the iPhone for me, at least version 1.0, is that it has no 3G/HSPDA. Here in Amsterdam (and I assume other European markets) Vodafone is already offering unlimited 1.8Megabit HSPDA connections for smart phones for 9.95 euros per month. I love the idea of the iPhone as a platform, and the storage it will have,  and I hope they will allow 3rd party widgets. But how can I live with the connection speed when I know I can use the N95 right now and get better service? I heard version 2.0 will have the fast connection, but I think it was short sighted to leave it out of version 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that spoils the iPhone for me, at least version 1.0, is that it has no 3G/HSPDA. Here in Amsterdam (and I assume other European markets) Vodafone is already offering unlimited 1.8Megabit HSPDA connections for smart phones for 9.95 euros per month. I love the idea of the iPhone as a platform, and the storage it will have,  and I hope they will allow 3rd party widgets. But how can I live with the connection speed when I know I can use the N95 right now and get better service? I heard version 2.0 will have the fast connection, but I think it was short sighted to leave it out of version 1.</p>
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		<title>By: bdb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1410022</link>
		<dc:creator>bdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woah, is that like 7 CN links? lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woah, is that like 7 CN links? lmao</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1410008</link>
		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! If Crunchgear says it "may" have GPS than it must be TRUE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! If Crunchgear says it &#8220;may&#8221; have GPS than it must be TRUE!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409984</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

MotoQ isn't that bad =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>MotoQ isn&#8217;t that bad =P</p>
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		<title>By: P-Air</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409974</link>
		<dc:creator>P-Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's CenterNetworks back of the envelope accounting on cost, which s/b taken seriously though it's very possible that early adopters won't figure this out 'til it's too late (or won't care): http://www.centernetworks.com/true-cost-of-the-iphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s CenterNetworks back of the envelope accounting on cost, which s/b taken seriously though it&#8217;s very possible that early adopters won&#8217;t figure this out &#8217;til it&#8217;s too late (or won&#8217;t care): <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/true-cost-of-the-iphone" rel="nofollow">http://www.centernetworks.com/.....the-iphone</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemrut</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409955</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemrut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny said:

'...I know lots of people who control there PC remotely with them'

Those people you know are probably very tech saavy folks who consist of the top 1/2 of .1% of mobile users in the US.

The iphone, if the hype is to be believed, should make computing on the go as easy as using an iPod.

..now i sound like i'm pumping Apple sotck..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny said:</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;I know lots of people who control there PC remotely with them&#8217;</p>
<p>Those people you know are probably very tech saavy folks who consist of the top 1/2 of .1% of mobile users in the US.</p>
<p>The iphone, if the hype is to be believed, should make computing on the go as easy as using an iPod.</p>
<p>..now i sound like i&#8217;m pumping Apple sotck..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409949</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would fiddy want an iPhone? He made $40 million off promoting a soft drink. Unless he can negotiate 10% of Apple...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would fiddy want an iPhone? He made $40 million off promoting a soft drink. Unless he can negotiate 10% of Apple&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nemrut</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409948</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemrut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Mike,

..don't be a 'Cramer' quit pumping Apple stock ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Mike,</p>
<p>..don&#8217;t be a &#8216;Cramer&#8217; quit pumping Apple stock <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409932</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn't anything in the iPhone ad that you can't do with smartphone now. It just appears to do it a lot better. Way better actually but I don't see it how it is making two device one anymore than what you can do now. I can't stand WinMobile phones but I know lots of people who control there PC remotely with them.

As for GPS...I know it is the sister site and all but for the love of god don't tell me you take the bizarrely bad TechCrunch seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t anything in the iPhone ad that you can&#8217;t do with smartphone now. It just appears to do it a lot better. Way better actually but I don&#8217;t see it how it is making two device one anymore than what you can do now. I can&#8217;t stand WinMobile phones but I know lots of people who control there PC remotely with them.</p>
<p>As for GPS&#8230;I know it is the sister site and all but for the love of god don&#8217;t tell me you take the bizarrely bad TechCrunch seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/yes-but-what-does-that-have-to-do-with-the-iphone/#comment-1409921</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who compare the PocketPC to the iPhone are the same people who bought the iRiver and never understood what the big hype about the iPod was. (The guy who calls us all sheep because we're excited about this product probably still uses lynx to browse the web.) If you're complaining that the iPhone doesn't have FM radio, then you're definitely not part of the target market.

And that's the thing: if you don't own an iPod, if you're not an active user, then you don't understand why people love it. It's precisely why there is this group of people who cannot understand why people are so hyped about this product. 

I also wouldn't assume that the iPhone's price will drop precipitiously simply by looking at the iPod. As cool as it is, the iPhone won't push as much volume as the iPod. Plus the iPod benefitted from the precipitous fall of memory prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who compare the PocketPC to the iPhone are the same people who bought the iRiver and never understood what the big hype about the iPod was. (The guy who calls us all sheep because we&#8217;re excited about this product probably still uses lynx to browse the web.) If you&#8217;re complaining that the iPhone doesn&#8217;t have FM radio, then you&#8217;re definitely not part of the target market.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the thing: if you don&#8217;t own an iPod, if you&#8217;re not an active user, then you don&#8217;t understand why people love it. It&#8217;s precisely why there is this group of people who cannot understand why people are so hyped about this product. </p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t assume that the iPhone&#8217;s price will drop precipitiously simply by looking at the iPod. As cool as it is, the iPhone won&#8217;t push as much volume as the iPod. Plus the iPod benefitted from the precipitous fall of memory prices.</p>
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