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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Expands Anyone But Red Hat Linux Partnerships to Xandros: Includes IP Protection</title>
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		<title>By: Dehumidifier</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1426106</link>
		<dc:creator>Dehumidifier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Terry McKenna</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1412046</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 07:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xandros is a good linux distro; I bought the first version.
But, like MS, you got a buy upgrades all too frequently so they are taking a beating from Ubuntu.

And, wasn't CORAL forced to sell-off Coral Linux to Xandros when their shares got snapped up by MS? Could be that MS is pretending to be pals for a bit of good publicity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xandros is a good linux distro; I bought the first version.<br />
But, like MS, you got a buy upgrades all too frequently so they are taking a beating from Ubuntu.</p>
<p>And, wasn&#8217;t CORAL forced to sell-off Coral Linux to Xandros when their shares got snapped up by MS? Could be that MS is pretending to be pals for a bit of good publicity!</p>
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		<title>By: Concrete Stain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409281</link>
		<dc:creator>Concrete Stain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure / They will integrate / Sue then / hostile take Over - 

Although MS is on a roll of good Press; it might try spending that Pr equity by sueing open source / linux</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure / They will integrate / Sue then / hostile take Over - </p>
<p>Although MS is on a roll of good Press; it might try spending that Pr equity by sueing open source / linux</p>
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		<title>By: Rian Orie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409274</link>
		<dc:creator>Rian Orie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still curious that when Microsoft decides to sue anyone, who they're going to sue..

Red Hat? Xandros? Novell? Debian?

None of said companies are supposedly doing anything illegal, distributing OS software that they don't own makes for a difficult case to battle.. and I really wonder how many of the allegedly 280 or so patents are diminished under the prior-act ruling.. we'll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still curious that when Microsoft decides to sue anyone, who they&#8217;re going to sue..</p>
<p>Red Hat? Xandros? Novell? Debian?</p>
<p>None of said companies are supposedly doing anything illegal, distributing OS software that they don&#8217;t own makes for a difficult case to battle.. and I really wonder how many of the allegedly 280 or so patents are diminished under the prior-act ruling.. we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409266</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Xandros certificates that MS sells will have expiration dates on them, unlike the novell certificates.

For MS this is a way to keep the FUD rolling...  for Xandros it's a way to get some press since thier project has been completely eclipsed by Ubuntu.  

This article was very onesided and assumes facts not in evidence.  It ignores the fact that MS has never said what patents are in question nor does it go into the reasons why they will never say what GNU/Linux code is in violation.  This article assumes that MS will sue and all of the evidence indicates they will hurt themselves more with a lawsuit.  They only have empty threats and places like TechCrunch to help spread the FUD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Xandros certificates that MS sells will have expiration dates on them, unlike the novell certificates.</p>
<p>For MS this is a way to keep the FUD rolling&#8230;  for Xandros it&#8217;s a way to get some press since thier project has been completely eclipsed by Ubuntu.  </p>
<p>This article was very onesided and assumes facts not in evidence.  It ignores the fact that MS has never said what patents are in question nor does it go into the reasons why they will never say what GNU/Linux code is in violation.  This article assumes that MS will sue and all of the evidence indicates they will hurt themselves more with a lawsuit.  They only have empty threats and places like TechCrunch to help spread the FUD</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409129</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there's another distribution to avoid ;-) This is as silly as the SCO issue (which is rapidly dying on its ass) and anyone giving credence to Microsoft's arguments in this area is just running scared..

That said, there are some plus sides to these deals. The vendors get licenses and assistance from Microsoft in areas of interoperability.. an area Xandros is particularly interested in. It's just a shame they have to get patent covenants at the same time.. something that totally sours the deal in open source eyes.

And no, it wouldn't be new for Microsoft to turn around and sue someone after an extended period of time. They're even &lt;a href="http://www.theserverside.net/news/thread.tss?thread_id=45627" rel="nofollow"&gt;doing it to people in their own development community&lt;/a&gt; (and an MVP with a respected product at that!). If you dine with the devil, be prepared to be poisoned. Sit at Microsoft's table at your own risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there&#8217;s another distribution to avoid <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> This is as silly as the SCO issue (which is rapidly dying on its ass) and anyone giving credence to Microsoft&#8217;s arguments in this area is just running scared..</p>
<p>That said, there are some plus sides to these deals. The vendors get licenses and assistance from Microsoft in areas of interoperability.. an area Xandros is particularly interested in. It&#8217;s just a shame they have to get patent covenants at the same time.. something that totally sours the deal in open source eyes.</p>
<p>And no, it wouldn&#8217;t be new for Microsoft to turn around and sue someone after an extended period of time. They&#8217;re even <a href="http://www.theserverside.net/news/thread.tss?thread_id=45627" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.theserverside.net');">doing it to people in their own development community</a> (and an MVP with a respected product at that!). If you dine with the devil, be prepared to be poisoned. Sit at Microsoft&#8217;s table at your own risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you up to, MS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you up to, MS?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Microsoft is playing the FUD card on this one, and it is working pretty well. It will be interesting to see how IBM and Oracle respond to that (if/when it really works).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Microsoft is playing the FUD card on this one, and it is working pretty well. It will be interesting to see how IBM and Oracle respond to that (if/when it really works).</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/04/microsoft-expands-anyone-but-red-hat-linux-partnerships-to-xandros/#comment-1409082</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt
if that (Microsoft not suing) is 100% certain then there would be zero reason to include IP in the deal. They might not sue now, but there's always tomorrow :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt<br />
if that (Microsoft not suing) is 100% certain then there would be zero reason to include IP in the deal. They might not sue now, but there&#8217;s always tomorrow <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gadgetize</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gadgetize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xandros is a nice piece of software, I don't think I've used anything that was so easy to install. I am a little surprised, as it seemed like they were shooting directly for the beginning user on PC, it just seemed like if it took off it'd be a decent threat to Windows, more so than the 'expert' distributions.

Anyway, for me it just makes Xandros that much more desirable, it's great for old laptops and stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xandros is a nice piece of software, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve used anything that was so easy to install. I am a little surprised, as it seemed like they were shooting directly for the beginning user on PC, it just seemed like if it took off it&#8217;d be a decent threat to Windows, more so than the &#8216;expert&#8217; distributions.</p>
<p>Anyway, for me it just makes Xandros that much more desirable, it&#8217;s great for old laptops and stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Duncan, Microsoft has already indicated that they won't be taking legal action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duncan, Microsoft has already indicated that they won&#8217;t be taking legal action.</p>
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