Comments on: Popfly: Sign of a Closer Microsoft-Yahoo Relationship?

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By: Brandon Paddock

Brandon Paddock — Sun, 27 May 2007 23:43:18 +0000

Why assume that Microsoft “decided” anything? Google doesn’t offer open access to most of their services, least of all in easily consumable XML formats as I believe PopFly prefers.

By: jan2x

jan2x — Sun, 27 May 2007 16:25:02 +0000

When will it be before Google just create their own version of popfly, that will include everyone on the web?

By: TechCrunch Japanese

TechCrunch Japanese — Sun, 27 May 2007 13:25:07 +0000

PopflyはMicrosoft/Yahoo関係強化の表れか？…

先月、噂で大騒ぎになったものの、結局MicrosoftはYahooを買収しなかった。しかしこの買収話の洪水に隠れてあまり注目されなかったが、この両社は「Google以外の誰とでも」グループとして….

By: JasonM

JasonM — Sun, 27 May 2007 05:56:12 +0000

The integration of Popfly with Visual Studio seems to be Microsofts way of enticing a larger number of developers to use their dev environments … even though they say they are targetting “non-developers”.

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Why would Popfly include mashups with Google maps when Microsoft has Virtual Earth / Live Local?

By: Mr. Moo

Mr. Moo — Sun, 27 May 2007 03:16:09 +0000

As Avatar said, users can create and share their own blocks, so the lack of Google blocks by default doesn’t decrease the power of Popfly. Users have already created blocks for Netflix, World of Warcraft, PaperbackSwap, etc.

By: Mike Street

Mike Street — Sat, 26 May 2007 23:54:58 +0000

I’ve been playing around with Popfly and it’s cool. I’m glad to see it going to be moved over to Facebook and I can’t wait for the service to be extended out.

By: Avatar

Avatar — Sat, 26 May 2007 20:19:07 +0000

MS has sended me my invitation, and i can say that i do think is because the easy api and the fact yahoo support json output, that and because as i said someone when the microsoft-yahoo rumor happened, Ms never intended to buy yahoo, the rumor was spread as a favor to give them some market gain and part of a coperation deal they inked in 2006. i of course cannot disclose how i know this..

and on the other hand, it will be stupid of microsoft to offer google blocks… you can stil create them if you want.. but offer them by default would be folish, however they neede to offer a second choice for goodwill, so it is completely logical they choosed yahoo for it.

By: Pete Lamerre

Pete Lamerre — Sat, 26 May 2007 20:03:28 +0000

Given that over 50% of all mashups are driven by the Google maps API, this makes this pretty useless. I suppose the Popfly folks don't want their tool to be used, then?

By: Dekut.com

Dekut.com — Sat, 26 May 2007 18:37:36 +0000

Popfly: Sign of a Closer Microsoft-Yahoo Relationship?…

Despite a frenzy of speculation earlier this month, Microsoft has not acquired Yahoo. However buried amongst numerous reports at the time was speculation that the two companies could form a stronger relationship as part of an “Anyone but Google” gr…

By: AGronowski

AGronowski — Sat, 26 May 2007 17:48:42 +0000

Microsoft claims that Silverlight will be platform independent and it intends to have it replace Flash. However, this exclusion with Popfly, the very flagship application of Silverlight, betrays their true intention. Anyone who thinks that they intend Silverlight to be platform independent once it kills Flash and its successors (an unlikely scenario) will be sadly mistaken.

By: Anand

Anand — Sat, 26 May 2007 15:08:42 +0000

Duncan I cannot see any article from you pointing out google. Probably you can do a search for Microsoft gadgets here
http://desktop..../plugins/?hl=en

and write a new article on that.

By: bdb

bdb — Sat, 26 May 2007 13:18:31 +0000

Kewtr, it is amazing how difficult some find it to simply look at the submission’s author. But Carl has obviously been reading valleywag’s latest post on MA, as one can easily see from this excerpt:

The career reporters show poor judgement, because they’ve never
been on the inside. Some of the most interesting news, and analysis,
comes from insiders like Arrington, who has been bouncing around
the Valley for most of the past decade. But they suffer, not just from
conflicts of interest, but also from the perpetual risk that something
they write will be at odds with something they’ve done, as Arrington
has demonstrated here.

Real original Carl, you need a beating!

By: cfJeff

cfJeff — Sat, 26 May 2007 13:01:06 +0000

If MS doesn’t include Google information in the mashup, what use is it?

Has anyone (other than MS shills) used Popfly?

By: Kewtr

Kewtr — Sat, 26 May 2007 08:47:42 +0000

Carl, Arrington didn’t write it.

Duncan, I think one reason might be the extreme simplicity that Yahoo APIs can be put to use. REST instead of SOAP, JSON responses if you want, and a 2 second registration.

Looks like there are quite a few easier Google ones now, so I guess they should have Maps, News and Picasa.

Even so, it could just be a question of priority rather than exclusion.

By: Carl

Carl — Sat, 26 May 2007 08:38:20 +0000

Is there any broader moral to this story? It illustrates, I think, one of the problems with tech journalism. The career reporters show poor judgement, because they’ve never been on the inside. Some of the most interesting news, and analysis, comes from insiders like Arrington, who has been bouncing around the Valley for most of the past decade. But they suffer, not just from conflicts of interest, but also from the perpetual risk that something they write will be at odds with something they’ve done, as Arrington has demonstrated here.

By: Steve S

Steve S — Sat, 26 May 2007 07:54:29 +0000

I think it’s just as you said, Microsoft doesn’t want its new mashup engine being buried in Google’s limelight. Basically, they are saying that if Google wants to join the mashup generation party they are going to have to do it themselves.

This makes a lot of sense, considering the fact that if Microsoft were to include too many Google blocks chances are pretty good that people might forget that this is an MS toy and not just another Google widget.

Either way, Popfly looks like it will be extremely entertaining and I can’t wait to try it out.

By: Duncan Riley

Duncan Riley — Sat, 26 May 2007 06:27:18 +0000

Search Engine Web
strong point, they’ve sort of gone half way and favored Yahoo in the process.

By: Search Engine WEB

Search Engine WEB — Sat, 26 May 2007 06:25:53 +0000

from a business angle it is understandable why they would not want to give Google any more attention of potential traffic…

However, from a Developer and User angle it is a significant void