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		<title>By: zlbwtxxaxy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1441816</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#160; Zlio et Amazon en conflit&#160;by&#160;e5k</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1394097</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Zlio et Amazon en conflit&#160;by&#160;e5k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven Roussey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1388049</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Roussey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me worried about replying on any Amazon services. What happens if you have all your data on Amazon S3, and the product that you offer one day competes with them -- will they shut you off from all their services and therefore loose all your data?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me worried about replying on any Amazon services. What happens if you have all your data on Amazon S3, and the product that you offer one day competes with them &#8212; will they shut you off from all their services and therefore loose all your data?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387867</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Chances are that one of two things happened - either Amazon is getting into this business directly, or Zlio was involved in some sort of fraud."

"Chances are"???  Seems to me it's totally inappropriate as a reporter to mention the possibility of fraud here with not an iota of evidence that's the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chances are that one of two things happened - either Amazon is getting into this business directly, or Zlio was involved in some sort of fraud.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Chances are&#8221;???  Seems to me it&#8217;s totally inappropriate as a reporter to mention the possibility of fraud here with not an iota of evidence that&#8217;s the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Hate Me</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387819</link>
		<dc:creator>Hate Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well all you Zlio fans can hate me because I'm the one who emailed the Amazon associate program to find out why they were able to use incentive marketing with Amazon sales and I was not.  No sour grapes here because I was hoping that the deal Zlio had made with Amazon was something we could also implement with our site.  As was written in the post above, Amazon does not allow you to give anyone a cut of your commission.

Oh well it was bound to happen sooner or later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well all you Zlio fans can hate me because I&#8217;m the one who emailed the Amazon associate program to find out why they were able to use incentive marketing with Amazon sales and I was not.  No sour grapes here because I was hoping that the deal Zlio had made with Amazon was something we could also implement with our site.  As was written in the post above, Amazon does not allow you to give anyone a cut of your commission.</p>
<p>Oh well it was bound to happen sooner or later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387817</link>
		<dc:creator>Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like profit sharing is the cause of the ban. Mashable has the story:
http://mashable.com/2007/05/21/amazon-zlio/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like profit sharing is the cause of the ban. Mashable has the story:<br />
<a href="http://mashable.com/2007/05/21/amazon-zlio/" rel="nofollow">http://mashable.com/2007/05/21/amazon-zlio/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387775</link>
		<dc:creator>Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; Google “Friday 13th Hits Top Amazon Affiliates” and you’ll see 
&#62; an article about what happened to some Amazon affiliates last fall. 

I have summed up the store over here:
http://probargainhunter.com/2007/03/23/why-amazon-doesnt-like-deals-sites/

@Allen
Could you elaborate on Amazon and Fatwallet?

I also wonder where Endless.com stands in relation to all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Google “Friday 13th Hits Top Amazon Affiliates” and you’ll see<br />
&gt; an article about what happened to some Amazon affiliates last fall. </p>
<p>I have summed up the store over here:<br />
<a href="http://probargainhunter.com/2007/03/23/why-amazon-doesnt-like-deals-sites/" rel="nofollow">http://probargainhunter.com/20.....als-sites/</a></p>
<p>@Allen<br />
Could you elaborate on Amazon and Fatwallet?</p>
<p>I also wonder where Endless.com stands in relation to all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: taco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387700</link>
		<dc:creator>taco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should rename to a-hole store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should rename to a-hole store.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanayama (http://enviedejapon.zlio.com)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387695</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanayama (http://enviedejapon.zlio.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We, Zlio shop-owners, do not need Amazon US.

Any other bookseller will be fine... So long Bezos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, Zlio shop-owners, do not need Amazon US.</p>
<p>Any other bookseller will be fine&#8230; So long Bezos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Stern</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387683</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just to be clear about something, Amazon has the same terms for at least 5 yrs regarding sharing of affiliate monies. It's the #1 biggest issue on Fatwallet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just to be clear about something, Amazon has the same terms for at least 5 yrs regarding sharing of affiliate monies. It&#8217;s the #1 biggest issue on Fatwallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steliyan Georgiev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387622</link>
		<dc:creator>Steliyan Georgiev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I thins it is one of the following:
-Amazon invests resources in the partnership with Zlio. If the revenues from Zlio don't meet Amazon's expectations, it is normal for Amazon to give up.
-Amazon plans to compete Zlio and improve their aStore which for now is far behind Zlio's functionality in lots of areas, but can catch up quickly
-Zlio indeed were involved in some sort of fraud.
Hope such a blow doesn't kill Zlio. It would be a blow too for its user who invested a lot of hours and effort in it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I thins it is one of the following:<br />
-Amazon invests resources in the partnership with Zlio. If the revenues from Zlio don&#8217;t meet Amazon&#8217;s expectations, it is normal for Amazon to give up.<br />
-Amazon plans to compete Zlio and improve their aStore which for now is far behind Zlio&#8217;s functionality in lots of areas, but can catch up quickly<br />
-Zlio indeed were involved in some sort of fraud.<br />
Hope such a blow doesn&#8217;t kill Zlio. It would be a blow too for its user who invested a lot of hours and effort in it</p>
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		<title>By: Delmar O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387530</link>
		<dc:creator>Delmar O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And we was banished from Woolworth's ... Was we banished from all the branches, or only that one?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And we was banished from Woolworth&#8217;s &#8230; Was we banished from all the branches, or only that one?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387504</link>
		<dc:creator>ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael wrote:
&#62; This is a highly unusual move since Amazon generally wants
&#62; all the affiliates it can get.

Actually, it's not that surprising considering what Amazon has done in the past. Google "Friday 13th Hits Top Amazon Affiliates" and you'll see an article about what happened to some Amazon affiliates last fall.  It seems like there are some types of affiliates that Amazon doesn't really want in the Associates program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael wrote:<br />
&gt; This is a highly unusual move since Amazon generally wants<br />
&gt; all the affiliates it can get.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s not that surprising considering what Amazon has done in the past. Google &#8220;Friday 13th Hits Top Amazon Affiliates&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see an article about what happened to some Amazon affiliates last fall.  It seems like there are some types of affiliates that Amazon doesn&#8217;t really want in the Associates program.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kalsey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387451</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kalsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kewtr: Amazon launched aStore on Aug 30 of last year: http://kalsey.com/2006/08/amazon_astore_ecommerce_for_everyone/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kewtr: Amazon launched aStore on Aug 30 of last year: <a href="http://kalsey.com/2006/08/amazon_astore_ecommerce_for_everyone/" rel="nofollow">http://kalsey.com/2006/08/amaz....._everyone/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kewtr</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387405</link>
		<dc:creator>Kewtr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon has had those storefronts for probably a year or more.

Agree with Adam, it's never been OK to split those. Big surprise.

Amazon still has far and away the best affiliate terms and web services. So if you don't like them go enjoy 1000 queries a day on Yahoo or something, or build something with Google just before they stop providing the service altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon has had those storefronts for probably a year or more.</p>
<p>Agree with Adam, it&#8217;s never been OK to split those. Big surprise.</p>
<p>Amazon still has far and away the best affiliate terms and web services. So if you don&#8217;t like them go enjoy 1000 queries a day on Yahoo or something, or build something with Google just before they stop providing the service altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: DinoHorse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387383</link>
		<dc:creator>DinoHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an example of my previous post:

http://astore.amazon.com/themorbidme-20

Amazon is in beta with own storefronts !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an example of my previous post:</p>
<p><a href="http://astore.amazon.com/themorbidme-20" rel="nofollow">http://astore.amazon.com/themorbidme-20</a></p>
<p>Amazon is in beta with own storefronts !</p>
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		<title>By: DinoHorse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387379</link>
		<dc:creator>DinoHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take is that Amazon is taking over the same niche Zlio is.. that is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take is that Amazon is taking over the same niche Zlio is.. that is!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dewey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387366</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's official - Amazon sucks. The whole shitstorm over Alexaholic really made them look bad; now they look even worse.

Jeff Bezos seems like a good guy - either he isn't paying attention to what his management is doing, or he really isn't as good as everyone thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s official - Amazon sucks. The whole shitstorm over Alexaholic really made them look bad; now they look even worse.</p>
<p>Jeff Bezos seems like a good guy - either he isn&#8217;t paying attention to what his management is doing, or he really isn&#8217;t as good as everyone thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kalsey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387351</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kalsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon has never allowed affiliates to build shops and pass a cut of affiliate revenue to someone else. They want the affiliates directly, and won't allow middle men.

I don't know why Zlio is surprised by this. It's right in the terms and conditions they signed to open up an affiliate account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon has never allowed affiliates to build shops and pass a cut of affiliate revenue to someone else. They want the affiliates directly, and won&#8217;t allow middle men.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Zlio is surprised by this. It&#8217;s right in the terms and conditions they signed to open up an affiliate account.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaid</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/#comment-1387337</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexaholic 2.0

--Zaid
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexaholic 2.0</p>
<p>&#8211;Zaid</p>
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