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	<title>Comments on: Change.org 2.0: Harass Politicians and Fund Their Opponents</title>
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		<title>By: 2 Customers TechCrunch&#8217;d in 1 Day &#124; Union Station</title>
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		<dc:creator>2 Customers TechCrunch&#8217;d in 1 Day &#124; Union Station</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hanna Jolie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-2658099</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanna Jolie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...how about not suggesting essembly right at the end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;how about not suggesting essembly right at the end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jnlwqqdcbq</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1443986</link>
		<dc:creator>jnlwqqdcbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! rnprdyeqlhugkv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! rnprdyeqlhugkv</p>
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		<title>By: wfertuy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1410418</link>
		<dc:creator>wfertuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The perfect &lt;a href=&quot;http://artmam.net/Dir-Chicken_Recipe.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chicken soup recipe&lt;/a&gt; 
Think big, crisp, and gloriously browned when you want a bird that reigns 
supreme at the table Size matters. Position doesn&#039;t. That&#039;s what a palate-weary ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perfect <a href="http://artmam.net/Dir-Chicken_Recipe.htm" rel="nofollow">chicken soup recipe</a><br />
Think big, crisp, and gloriously browned when you want a bird that reigns<br />
supreme at the table Size matters. Position doesn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s what a palate-weary &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1394505</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind, if this is just another avenue for people to be attracted to giving for any effective change-go to town!  I&#039;ve never donated directly to a political campaign or charity, but a site like this is more attractive than a direct appeal from the candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind, if this is just another avenue for people to be attracted to giving for any effective change-go to town!  I&#8217;ve never donated directly to a political campaign or charity, but a site like this is more attractive than a direct appeal from the candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1391506</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, re: &quot;I just don&#039;t think taking money from charities should be a monetization strategy.&quot;

Change.org takes a 1% fee for donations, not including the transaction fees which are impossible to avoid. GlobalGiving, a site which is TOTALLY based on the premise of donations that don&#039;t go to overhead, takes 10-14%. GlobalGiving most certainly doesn&#039;t going around advertising this. But hey, I guess they&#039;re nonprofit so that puts them in the clear. 

The reality is that change and donation protals need sustainability that goes beyond foundation donations. Especially in an arena like Web technology when the going salaries for top developers are far beyond what nonprofits have access to. This is emblematic of a dangerous resistance on the part of ANYONE to fund infrastructure, overhead, and leadership development in nonprofits. 9% of nonprofit leaders leave the nonprofit sector each year, creating a 100% turn around in nonprofit leadership every 5 years.

THIS is what&#039;s alarming. Until we get comfortable with the idea that earned income strategies are legitimate and in fact, used judiciously and correctly, can add scale to good ideas that would otherwise get no where, we&#039;re going to continue to have nonprofits so obsessed with living check to check and grant to grant that they forget what they were created to do in the first place.

Nathaniel 
Founder of the Northwestern University Center for Global Engagement

PS GlobalGiving is a great organization and the fee they charge is certainly worth it for what they offer, I was simply using them as a point of reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, re: &#8220;I just don&#8217;t think taking money from charities should be a monetization strategy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Change.org takes a 1% fee for donations, not including the transaction fees which are impossible to avoid. GlobalGiving, a site which is TOTALLY based on the premise of donations that don&#8217;t go to overhead, takes 10-14%. GlobalGiving most certainly doesn&#8217;t going around advertising this. But hey, I guess they&#8217;re nonprofit so that puts them in the clear. </p>
<p>The reality is that change and donation protals need sustainability that goes beyond foundation donations. Especially in an arena like Web technology when the going salaries for top developers are far beyond what nonprofits have access to. This is emblematic of a dangerous resistance on the part of ANYONE to fund infrastructure, overhead, and leadership development in nonprofits. 9% of nonprofit leaders leave the nonprofit sector each year, creating a 100% turn around in nonprofit leadership every 5 years.</p>
<p>THIS is what&#8217;s alarming. Until we get comfortable with the idea that earned income strategies are legitimate and in fact, used judiciously and correctly, can add scale to good ideas that would otherwise get no where, we&#8217;re going to continue to have nonprofits so obsessed with living check to check and grant to grant that they forget what they were created to do in the first place.</p>
<p>Nathaniel<br />
Founder of the Northwestern University Center for Global Engagement</p>
<p>PS GlobalGiving is a great organization and the fee they charge is certainly worth it for what they offer, I was simply using them as a point of reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Rattray</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1390182</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Rattray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nashferatu

If only politics were that simple.  The problem that we&#039;re addressing is that regardless of who is elected, special interests are able to buy influence to stifle debate on certain issues or get preferred legislation introduced on others.  This is why, for example, genuine patent reform has been so evasive, net neutrality may not persist, and gun control won&#039;t be touched by anyone with a ten foot poll - even if a congressman lives in a district that wholeheartedly supports gun control (hint: the NRA will spend $100k in attack ads against them in the next election if they do).  

So although your vote may have as much influence as any other in getting someone elected, your influence over the way that representative acts while in office is not the same as those who fund their campaign or threaten to fund the campaigns of their opponents.  That’s the problem that we’re trying to overcome.  And, as I mentioned above (comment #5), giving a $25 donation directly to a campaign without a “filter” is not going to solve the problem or influence anyone.  On the other hand, giving $25 along with 1000 other people in a coordinated way will certainly get a politician’s attention and, if properly targeted, can directly undercut the undue influence that any special interest might wield over that representative&#039;s actions.

- Ben (founder, Change.org)</description>
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<p>If only politics were that simple.  The problem that we&#8217;re addressing is that regardless of who is elected, special interests are able to buy influence to stifle debate on certain issues or get preferred legislation introduced on others.  This is why, for example, genuine patent reform has been so evasive, net neutrality may not persist, and gun control won&#8217;t be touched by anyone with a ten foot poll &#8211; even if a congressman lives in a district that wholeheartedly supports gun control (hint: the NRA will spend $100k in attack ads against them in the next election if they do).  </p>
<p>So although your vote may have as much influence as any other in getting someone elected, your influence over the way that representative acts while in office is not the same as those who fund their campaign or threaten to fund the campaigns of their opponents.  That’s the problem that we’re trying to overcome.  And, as I mentioned above (comment #5), giving a $25 donation directly to a campaign without a “filter” is not going to solve the problem or influence anyone.  On the other hand, giving $25 along with 1000 other people in a coordinated way will certainly get a politician’s attention and, if properly targeted, can directly undercut the undue influence that any special interest might wield over that representative&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>- Ben (founder, Change.org)</p>
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		<title>By: nashferatu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1390091</link>
		<dc:creator>nashferatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-the &quot;little guy&quot; has just as much power as the &quot;big guy&quot;  - and it&#039;s not about money. It&#039;s called &quot;voting&quot;. less than half of registered voters vote, and if you count the non-registered voters (that seem to have big opinions), it just goes to show why the problems exist. I&#039;m sure this site has honorable intentions, but i&#039;d rather send a check to whom I wish, or cause I wish, directly. I don&#039;t need a filter site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-the &#8220;little guy&#8221; has just as much power as the &#8220;big guy&#8221;  &#8211; and it&#8217;s not about money. It&#8217;s called &#8220;voting&#8221;. less than half of registered voters vote, and if you count the non-registered voters (that seem to have big opinions), it just goes to show why the problems exist. I&#8217;m sure this site has honorable intentions, but i&#8217;d rather send a check to whom I wish, or cause I wish, directly. I don&#8217;t need a filter site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1389553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t think taking money from charities should be your monetization strategy. Seems even more shortsighted than Adsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t think taking money from charities should be your monetization strategy. Seems even more shortsighted than Adsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1389428</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s really fair to say they aren&#039;t in this for the right reasons or that they hide their status as a company. Judging from my interactions with these guys at a couple conferences recently, they seem to be in this for all the right reasons. I was actually struck by how passionate they are about activism, and everyone I&#039;ve talked to about the service seems to respect their commitment to the nonprofit community. I think the nonprofit world is starting to get over its uneasiness about for-profit ventures. A lot of us are pretty excited about the project. 

You are right that they don&#039;t explicitly state their for-profit status anywhere on the front page, but their FAQ does refer to the fact that they&#039;re incorporated. I also don&#039;t know why you think that information needs to be broadcasted as some sort of warning? It hardly seems like they&#039;re hiding this fact. When I heard Ben speak at a recent conference, he spoke directly about how they can&#039;t legally process donations to politicians as a nonprofit. Makes sense to me. Maybe they could explain that better on the site. Either way, I don&#039;t think you should be so quick to judge - the site could do a lot of good. 

PS - Wilson, their FAQ is pretty explicit about tax deductions and processing fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really fair to say they aren&#8217;t in this for the right reasons or that they hide their status as a company. Judging from my interactions with these guys at a couple conferences recently, they seem to be in this for all the right reasons. I was actually struck by how passionate they are about activism, and everyone I&#8217;ve talked to about the service seems to respect their commitment to the nonprofit community. I think the nonprofit world is starting to get over its uneasiness about for-profit ventures. A lot of us are pretty excited about the project. </p>
<p>You are right that they don&#8217;t explicitly state their for-profit status anywhere on the front page, but their FAQ does refer to the fact that they&#8217;re incorporated. I also don&#8217;t know why you think that information needs to be broadcasted as some sort of warning? It hardly seems like they&#8217;re hiding this fact. When I heard Ben speak at a recent conference, he spoke directly about how they can&#8217;t legally process donations to politicians as a nonprofit. Makes sense to me. Maybe they could explain that better on the site. Either way, I don&#8217;t think you should be so quick to judge &#8211; the site could do a lot of good. </p>
<p>PS &#8211; Wilson, their FAQ is pretty explicit about tax deductions and processing fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Chiang</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1389270</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always feared that people would join the NRA and then vote &quot;no guns&quot;, but then people are pretty disorganized- That&#039;s why democracy works!  Everyone gets ONE vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always feared that people would join the NRA and then vote &#8220;no guns&#8221;, but then people are pretty disorganized- That&#8217;s why democracy works!  Everyone gets ONE vote</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1389251</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor what percentage of the political contribution (although Ben calls it a donation - hey, Ben, political contributions ain&#039;t tax deductible) Change.org will take off the top for the privilege of bundling your donation.  Is it now going be &quot;a social network for over 1 million nonprofits and over 1 million political candidates&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor what percentage of the political contribution (although Ben calls it a donation &#8211; hey, Ben, political contributions ain&#8217;t tax deductible) Change.org will take off the top for the privilege of bundling your donation.  Is it now going be &#8220;a social network for over 1 million nonprofits and over 1 million political candidates&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(cue the countdown to ben rattray&#039;s defensive response, which won&#039;t address why they don&#039;t say anywhere on the site, simply and clearly, that they are a for profit group. of course, being a for profit group isn&#039;t bad if you&#039;re just transparent about it...but transparency isn&#039;t a web 2.0 thing, right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(cue the countdown to ben rattray&#8217;s defensive response, which won&#8217;t address why they don&#8217;t say anywhere on the site, simply and clearly, that they are a for profit group. of course, being a for profit group isn&#8217;t bad if you&#8217;re just transparent about it&#8230;but transparency isn&#8217;t a web 2.0 thing, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pallet, change.org is a For Profit group- they aren&#039;t in it for the good of their hearts. and they consistently hide their for profit status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pallet, change.org is a For Profit group- they aren&#8217;t in it for the good of their hearts. and they consistently hide their for profit status.</p>
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		<title>By: meer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388909</link>
		<dc:creator>meer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a pity that we have come to widely and unquestionably accept that the politicians need to be paid large amounts of money to get them to do what their job is. 
The problem here is that the public officials (who, by definition, are supposed to be working in the interest of the public) are being bought out with large amounts of money to get them to work against the public interest. The solution cannot be in trying to outdo these interests by paying even bigger amounts of money! We would never be able to compete! (and dont forget, they make all their money back, and more, once the politician is elected). 
The way to fight this is to campaign to weed out this travesty and restore the democratic system. We need to raise the right questions to find effective answers.
That&#039;s it. I have said all I wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a pity that we have come to widely and unquestionably accept that the politicians need to be paid large amounts of money to get them to do what their job is.<br />
The problem here is that the public officials (who, by definition, are supposed to be working in the interest of the public) are being bought out with large amounts of money to get them to work against the public interest. The solution cannot be in trying to outdo these interests by paying even bigger amounts of money! We would never be able to compete! (and dont forget, they make all their money back, and more, once the politician is elected).<br />
The way to fight this is to campaign to weed out this travesty and restore the democratic system. We need to raise the right questions to find effective answers.<br />
That&#8217;s it. I have said all I wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: pallet jack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388863</link>
		<dc:creator>pallet jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how they went with .org - 

 - becuase its  an orginization - 

 - it just makes sense; some people buying .com &#039; because .com .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how they went with .org &#8211; </p>
<p> &#8211; becuase its  an orginization &#8211; </p>
<p> &#8211; it just makes sense; some people buying .com &#8216; because .com &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Change 2.0 is out! - Non-Profit Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388755</link>
		<dc:creator>Change 2.0 is out! - Non-Profit Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he was slightly stymied by a computer that refused to boot for his presentation. And Techcrunch has additional coverage as well.  Everyone is looking at the big pot of election 2008 gold and thinking of ways they can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he was slightly stymied by a computer that refused to boot for his presentation. And Techcrunch has additional coverage as well.  Everyone is looking at the big pot of election 2008 gold and thinking of ways they can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/change-org-2-harass-politicians-and-fund-their-opponents/comment-page-1/#comment-1388741</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick - you didn&#039;t mention Care2.com which is the biggest activist site / social network of all with over 7 million members.  I don&#039;t think it has all the lobbying options you mention, but it&#039;s the big gorilla in this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick &#8211; you didn&#8217;t mention Care2.com which is the biggest activist site / social network of all with over 7 million members.  I don&#8217;t think it has all the lobbying options you mention, but it&#8217;s the big gorilla in this space.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change.org seems like an awesome concept.  Breaking down the existing political power structure is quite a lofty goal, but I&#039;m glad to see these handful of sites tackling it.  I still don&#039;t think they&#039;ve totally nailed it yet, but they&#039;re definately getting closer.  Best of luck to them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change.org seems like an awesome concept.  Breaking down the existing political power structure is quite a lofty goal, but I&#8217;m glad to see these handful of sites tackling it.  I still don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve totally nailed it yet, but they&#8217;re definately getting closer.  Best of luck to them!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Rattray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Rattray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 07:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Ben, founder of Change.org.  Many thanks for the write-up, Nick.

Gal – good question.  The reason you would want to give up some amount of control over exactly where your money goes is that it gives you influence over a much larger amount of money.  It also enables you to be a part of community that, when bound together, can have much more impact than the sum of its parts.  

For example, 1000 people giving $25 to a candidate in an uncoordinated fashion will get each person little more than a junk mail response.   But you take those same 1000 people and have them give $25 each in a bundled donation along with a letter stating why the group gave the money, and the candidate will eagerly hear what you have to say.  Heck, he’ll even come to your house to hear it.  (Whether you want a politician to come to your house is another question…)

The point is, in politics concentrated and organized interests always win over disperse groups of people, and our platform allows people who were previously disconnected and powerless to coordinate political action for the purpose of gaining real political power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Ben, founder of Change.org.  Many thanks for the write-up, Nick.</p>
<p>Gal – good question.  The reason you would want to give up some amount of control over exactly where your money goes is that it gives you influence over a much larger amount of money.  It also enables you to be a part of community that, when bound together, can have much more impact than the sum of its parts.  </p>
<p>For example, 1000 people giving $25 to a candidate in an uncoordinated fashion will get each person little more than a junk mail response.   But you take those same 1000 people and have them give $25 each in a bundled donation along with a letter stating why the group gave the money, and the candidate will eagerly hear what you have to say.  Heck, he’ll even come to your house to hear it.  (Whether you want a politician to come to your house is another question…)</p>
<p>The point is, in politics concentrated and organized interests always win over disperse groups of people, and our platform allows people who were previously disconnected and powerless to coordinate political action for the purpose of gaining real political power.</p>
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		<title>By: Gal Josefsberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gal Josefsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 06:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds a little too complicated.  Why would I want to go through all of this when I can just donate the money to the candidate I like the most?  If you really want to put your money where your mouth is, don&#039;t place it in this &quot;Web 2.0 political lottery.&quot;  Do your own research, decide on a candidate and donate to/volunteer with their campaign.

GJ
http://www.60in3.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds a little too complicated.  Why would I want to go through all of this when I can just donate the money to the candidate I like the most?  If you really want to put your money where your mouth is, don&#8217;t place it in this &#8220;Web 2.0 political lottery.&#8221;  Do your own research, decide on a candidate and donate to/volunteer with their campaign.</p>
<p>GJ<br />
<a href="http://www.60in3.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.60in3.com'>http://www.60in3.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really a powerful new concept. I wouldn&#039;t have imagined that something as tried and true as PACs would have gone Web 2.0 on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really a powerful new concept. I wouldn&#8217;t have imagined that something as tried and true as PACs would have gone Web 2.0 on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Security</title>
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		<dc:creator>Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This business model only works effectively if there is only ONE organization doing this.

If others create a similar model, then the overall effect gets somewhat diluted because the amount of money donated would be  spread out among several candidates and  would have less impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This business model only works effectively if there is only ONE organization doing this.</p>
<p>If others create a similar model, then the overall effect gets somewhat diluted because the amount of money donated would be  spread out among several candidates and  would have less impact.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally someone has figured out how to use Web 2.0 to democratize the political process. Very cool. Also cool to see TechCrunch covering Web 2.0 companies that may have some real impact outside Silicon Valley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally someone has figured out how to use Web 2.0 to democratize the political process. Very cool. Also cool to see TechCrunch covering Web 2.0 companies that may have some real impact outside Silicon Valley.</p>
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