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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-2459442</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Next New Networks - $15 million From Velocity Interactive Group And Goldman Sachs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-2034334</link>
		<dc:creator>Next New Networks - $15 million From Velocity Interactive Group And Goldman Sachs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] into the online TV site Next New Networks, the company will announce shortly. The company, which launched in January 2007, had previously raised $8 million from Spark Capital, Saban Media Group, Pilot Group, and Bob [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] into the online TV site Next New Networks, the company will announce shortly. The company, which launched in January 2007, had previously raised $8 million from Spark Capital, Saban Media Group, Pilot Group, and Bob [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Next New Networks Acquires BarelyPolitical.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1679619</link>
		<dc:creator>Next New Networks Acquires BarelyPolitical.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See our previous coverage of Next New Networks here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See our previous coverage of Next New Networks here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate Bay&#8217;s Video Streaming</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1404905</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirate Bay&#8217;s Video Streaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 07:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the consumer: End the format wars. Think convergence, as Mark Cuban points out in his blog. Think microformats and how this idea could be applied and empower local TV stations&#8230;And why not start competing? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the consumer: End the format wars. Think convergence, as Mark Cuban points out in his blog. Think microformats and how this idea could be applied and empower local TV stations&#8230;And why not start competing? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FiberGeneration</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1397251</link>
		<dc:creator>FiberGeneration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kazados.tv : not the first WebTV for Teens (unfortunately)...&lt;/strong&gt;

French TV production firm 2T Productions (well, the site still under construction as of today 05/25/07) is to launch kazados.tv its first television channel next week. As the iCTO, I have had the chance to participate to the adventure for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kazados.tv : not the first WebTV for Teens (unfortunately)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>French TV production firm 2T Productions (well, the site still under construction as of today 05/25/07) is to launch kazados.tv its first television channel next week. As the iCTO, I have had the chance to participate to the adventure for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1391227</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 11:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm just a quick note, the site appears to be down at the moment. So can't comment on it (at least link as linked in the article)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm just a quick note, the site appears to be down at the moment. So can&#8217;t comment on it (at least link as linked in the article)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1388026</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real test here will be whether or not each community embraces these sites.  It's been said that YouTube was so successful because of the community, but it's also been said that it was because of so much copyrighted content.  Lots of times, there isn't anything in particular that makes some sites blow up.

I think this model can be easily replicated, and there isn't much keeping the users from flocking to another site with similar features.  The similarities between each of these sites proves this point.  On the other hand, I believe that niche video sites will win out in the long run over YouTube and its clones.  

People are getting tired of "shock value" clips of things exploding, and copyrighted clips will eventually be hosted by the TV companies themselves.  YouTube has already considered this, and it shows in their "Sketchies" contest. They're looking for well-produced content.  Consistently well-produced content.    Not only do the contest winners get a prize, but they also will be destined to continue uploading content on YouTube, where they already have a fanbase.  Those types of videos set up future YouTube stars for the coveted LonelyGirl15 status.

I'm surprised this transition from junk to semi-professional content is coming as a shock to so many people.  Did we all think stuff like numa numa would keep us entertained forever?

These guys understand this.  I'm really curious to see where this goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real test here will be whether or not each community embraces these sites.  It&#8217;s been said that YouTube was so successful because of the community, but it&#8217;s also been said that it was because of so much copyrighted content.  Lots of times, there isn&#8217;t anything in particular that makes some sites blow up.</p>
<p>I think this model can be easily replicated, and there isn&#8217;t much keeping the users from flocking to another site with similar features.  The similarities between each of these sites proves this point.  On the other hand, I believe that niche video sites will win out in the long run over YouTube and its clones.  </p>
<p>People are getting tired of &#8220;shock value&#8221; clips of things exploding, and copyrighted clips will eventually be hosted by the TV companies themselves.  YouTube has already considered this, and it shows in their &#8220;Sketchies&#8221; contest. They&#8217;re looking for well-produced content.  Consistently well-produced content.    Not only do the contest winners get a prize, but they also will be destined to continue uploading content on YouTube, where they already have a fanbase.  Those types of videos set up future YouTube stars for the coveted LonelyGirl15 status.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised this transition from junk to semi-professional content is coming as a shock to so many people.  Did we all think stuff like numa numa would keep us entertained forever?</p>
<p>These guys understand this.  I&#8217;m really curious to see where this goes.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;マイクロテレビジョンネットワークを構築する「Next New Networks」...&lt;/strong&gt;


  Next New Networksは「マイクロテレビジョンネットワーク」という荘大な計画を持ったオンラインメディア会社だ。
同社はニューヨークを拠点に、1月にSpark Capitalから$8M（800万ドル）を調達....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>マイクロテレビジョンネットワークを構築する「Next New Networks」&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>  Next New Networksは「マイクロテレビジョンネットワーク」という荘大な計画を持ったオンラインメディア会社だ。<br />
同社はニューヨークを拠点に、1月にSpark Capitalから$8M（800万ドル）を調達&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: J-son</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1387245</link>
		<dc:creator>J-son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this idea. Can't wait until Nick Denton starts attacking its founders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this idea. Can&#8217;t wait until Nick Denton starts attacking its founders.</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1387121</link>
		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam, isn't Marlboro a master at building a brand? I think building a brand online and building a brand offline are different at the moment. I can say I will be very surprised to see this group know and understand the places people go and hang out online beyond the obvious (MySpace, YouTube, etc) because I know tons of really brilliant business people that don't. Nobody's saying it can't /won't do well. 

Jughead hits it on the nail: you need to think about bringing people back to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam, isn&#8217;t Marlboro a master at building a brand? I think building a brand online and building a brand offline are different at the moment. I can say I will be very surprised to see this group know and understand the places people go and hang out online beyond the obvious (MySpace, YouTube, etc) because I know tons of really brilliant business people that don&#8217;t. Nobody&#8217;s saying it can&#8217;t /won&#8217;t do well. </p>
<p>Jughead hits it on the nail: you need to think about bringing people back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jughead</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386988</link>
		<dc:creator>Jughead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it's going to be increasingly more difficult to be heard above the noise. The "Next New Networks" model isn't bad, it's just that there are an increasing number of similar players and services emerging. The intelligence is in owning or licensing the content and understanding the critical importance of being able to spread it virally in a platform agnostic methodology to build the audience no matter where they are. 

They get that.

I think the opportunity for NNN is to hopefully capture lightning in a bottle like "Ask a Ninja", "Tiki Bar TV" or "RocketBoom". Channel Federator is solid and a couple of others look promising, but.....who knows? There are hundreds if not thousands of more self produced, semi-professional programs undoubtably in production right now. As was mentioned earlier, the tools for production are almost nothing and distribution is a non issue. The real key is building the audience and thus creating the brand. That is getting more difficult as deep pocket traditional media like radio, TV and film studios rush into the space. We are entering into an epic battle of small, medium and large scale content producers and the stakes are frickin' humungous.

As of right now, if you're a podcast producer, you have to be on iTunes and if you're doing video, YouTube as well. But only by being a player in your niche will you ever be noticed in the exploding mass of content. But while these services are great, you still need to stand out or at least be filtered to a micro/niche site. You can either get on iTunes and hope you land on their front podcast page or conversely, try and become a big fish in a little pond in a micro-site like IndiaPodcasts.com

Also, I believe that as time passes, it is going to become more important to find ways to draw your audience back to your landing page and on to your website. This is where advertisers feel more comfortable with traditional models of CPM, etc. It also provides a venue to offer other products and services such as e-commerce in a secure environment where profits can be easily extracted by the producer without having to share revenue. 

A podcast landing page is also the platform to offer blogs, widgets and other perks to strenthen the brand and truly engage in "social networking" that will provide critical audience retention. If your a producer, you must find as many ways to monetize or perish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it&#8217;s going to be increasingly more difficult to be heard above the noise. The &#8220;Next New Networks&#8221; model isn&#8217;t bad, it&#8217;s just that there are an increasing number of similar players and services emerging. The intelligence is in owning or licensing the content and understanding the critical importance of being able to spread it virally in a platform agnostic methodology to build the audience no matter where they are. </p>
<p>They get that.</p>
<p>I think the opportunity for NNN is to hopefully capture lightning in a bottle like &#8220;Ask a Ninja&#8221;, &#8220;Tiki Bar TV&#8221; or &#8220;RocketBoom&#8221;. Channel Federator is solid and a couple of others look promising, but&#8230;..who knows? There are hundreds if not thousands of more self produced, semi-professional programs undoubtably in production right now. As was mentioned earlier, the tools for production are almost nothing and distribution is a non issue. The real key is building the audience and thus creating the brand. That is getting more difficult as deep pocket traditional media like radio, TV and film studios rush into the space. We are entering into an epic battle of small, medium and large scale content producers and the stakes are frickin&#8217; humungous.</p>
<p>As of right now, if you&#8217;re a podcast producer, you have to be on iTunes and if you&#8217;re doing video, YouTube as well. But only by being a player in your niche will you ever be noticed in the exploding mass of content. But while these services are great, you still need to stand out or at least be filtered to a micro/niche site. You can either get on iTunes and hope you land on their front podcast page or conversely, try and become a big fish in a little pond in a micro-site like IndiaPodcasts.com</p>
<p>Also, I believe that as time passes, it is going to become more important to find ways to draw your audience back to your landing page and on to your website. This is where advertisers feel more comfortable with traditional models of CPM, etc. It also provides a venue to offer other products and services such as e-commerce in a secure environment where profits can be easily extracted by the producer without having to share revenue. </p>
<p>A podcast landing page is also the platform to offer blogs, widgets and other perks to strenthen the brand and truly engage in &#8220;social networking&#8221; that will provide critical audience retention. If your a producer, you must find as many ways to monetize or perish.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386640</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 06:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think something has been overlooked that needs to be stated because most of the comments have been focused on either the technology or the distribution.  

These cats are masters of building brands.  

Seriously look at their resumes.  Brands transcend the "tools" that are needed to distribute them, and thus they become a real asset that the company can continue to find value for into the future.  Conversely the code we're writing today is worthless tomorrow.  Tool services have a different life cycle plan, and that is what we're used to seeing posted to Techcrunch.....  Cool Tool sites.

What makes this important and relevant is that these brands are being packaged for Internet consumption.  Targeting micro-communities, they are building (what I would argue) are SIGNIFICANTLY higher value viewers than generic tool sites.  Brilliant strategy, build a super high value audience by being platform agnostic and just ride the work off all the tool sites out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think something has been overlooked that needs to be stated because most of the comments have been focused on either the technology or the distribution.  </p>
<p>These cats are masters of building brands.  </p>
<p>Seriously look at their resumes.  Brands transcend the &#8220;tools&#8221; that are needed to distribute them, and thus they become a real asset that the company can continue to find value for into the future.  Conversely the code we&#8217;re writing today is worthless tomorrow.  Tool services have a different life cycle plan, and that is what we&#8217;re used to seeing posted to Techcrunch&#8230;..  Cool Tool sites.</p>
<p>What makes this important and relevant is that these brands are being packaged for Internet consumption.  Targeting micro-communities, they are building (what I would argue) are SIGNIFICANTLY higher value viewers than generic tool sites.  Brilliant strategy, build a super high value audience by being platform agnostic and just ride the work off all the tool sites out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Nima Negahban</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386608</link>
		<dc:creator>Nima Negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dig the polymorphic distribution rules.

You kind of side step the infrastructure problem by 'super distributing' it. However by going this route do you have the metrics &#38; monetization machinations in place to really know how well the 'super distribution' is working for a piece of content?

Will you guys apply this same 'open-ness' to advertisement sales?

Joost is very stern on human involvement in the sales process which is partly why I think big media has embraced them so readily.

It seems like there is a lot of life hacking and social engineering going on at NNN, which I think is the business R&#38;D that someone needs to make a concerted effort in. So hats off to you on that. I look forward to learning more.

It raises an interesting point that from a business stand point there needs to be as much 'Business R&#38;D' in this new media world as hard technical development. 

It's pretty exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dig the polymorphic distribution rules.</p>
<p>You kind of side step the infrastructure problem by &#8217;super distributing&#8217; it. However by going this route do you have the metrics &amp; monetization machinations in place to really know how well the &#8217;super distribution&#8217; is working for a piece of content?</p>
<p>Will you guys apply this same &#8216;open-ness&#8217; to advertisement sales?</p>
<p>Joost is very stern on human involvement in the sales process which is partly why I think big media has embraced them so readily.</p>
<p>It seems like there is a lot of life hacking and social engineering going on at NNN, which I think is the business R&amp;D that someone needs to make a concerted effort in. So hats off to you on that. I look forward to learning more.</p>
<p>It raises an interesting point that from a business stand point there needs to be as much &#8216;Business R&amp;D&#8217; in this new media world as hard technical development. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: scouta blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386575</link>
		<dc:creator>scouta blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 04:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Next New Network: Micro-Television Networks...&lt;/strong&gt;

Duncan, at Techcrunch, points to Next New Network a &#8220;new kind of media company, creating micro-television networks over the internet for targeted communities, bringing together elements of tv programming and internet philosophy to allow viewers t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Next New Network: Micro-Television Networks&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Duncan, at Techcrunch, points to Next New Network a &#8220;new kind of media company, creating micro-television networks over the internet for targeted communities, bringing together elements of tv programming and internet philosophy to allow viewers t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386500</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 03:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seancurt, thanks for the thoughtful response. One thing I should point out is that we absolutely do compensate the people who work with us on our networks. All of the show creators and producers are paid for their work.  Their audience members who send in videos, comments, and the like are not paid, but they do it to be a part of the networks and have fun -- and we thank them and work their responses in all the time.

We also have a different business model than Joost, which has raised a bit more money than we have, as people have pointed out.  Joost is a platform with content from lots of partners, aiming to compete with other platforms and destinations; we cooperate with platforms and offer our programming everywhere the audience wants it to be -- which could include places like Joost, and right now, we're already on YouTube, Veoh, iTunes, and almost anywhere else that can aggregate an RSS feed.  We're trying to figure out how you develop programming and build relationships with audiences and advertisers in a super-distribution world, where the audience members are the ultimate programmers, distributors, and marketers of what we offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seancurt, thanks for the thoughtful response. One thing I should point out is that we absolutely do compensate the people who work with us on our networks. All of the show creators and producers are paid for their work.  Their audience members who send in videos, comments, and the like are not paid, but they do it to be a part of the networks and have fun &#8212; and we thank them and work their responses in all the time.</p>
<p>We also have a different business model than Joost, which has raised a bit more money than we have, as people have pointed out.  Joost is a platform with content from lots of partners, aiming to compete with other platforms and destinations; we cooperate with platforms and offer our programming everywhere the audience wants it to be &#8212; which could include places like Joost, and right now, we&#8217;re already on YouTube, Veoh, iTunes, and almost anywhere else that can aggregate an RSS feed.  We&#8217;re trying to figure out how you develop programming and build relationships with audiences and advertisers in a super-distribution world, where the audience members are the ultimate programmers, distributors, and marketers of what we offer.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 02:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive talent, though I don't find the idea that impressive. Somewhat of a crowded space.</description>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386403</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 01:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as everybody knows here this is not just a guess as to where we are going. the talent and the content need to be compensated at some level, and if there is no room at the end, there will be no success for anybody - i want to know who gets paid and when and why would i go to the site or contribute my content - simple - be real and ask yourselves all, what comes of making an interenet bases tv clip 3 - 11 minutes if you cant pay the talent or have affordabilithy backed by huge distribution funds - make a brand?  it takes a lot more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as everybody knows here this is not just a guess as to where we are going. the talent and the content need to be compensated at some level, and if there is no room at the end, there will be no success for anybody - i want to know who gets paid and when and why would i go to the site or contribute my content - simple - be real and ask yourselves all, what comes of making an interenet bases tv clip 3 - 11 minutes if you cant pay the talent or have affordabilithy backed by huge distribution funds - make a brand?  it takes a lot more</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386370</link>
		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Hiro, I agree on that. Marlboro not long ago spent a fortune (millions) with an incredibly stacked, talented staff to produce videos and do all these initiatives on their site and it did nothing - I think it was less than 6k people came to it? Some really low number. Anyway, morale of story: talent offline no matter how sexy or stacked seems to mean very little when it comes to the web - lots more failures than success stories. My partner and I were nobodies when we launched StyleDiary (www.stylediary.net) two years ago, out of an apartment, two people, no funding. Today it's in 72 countries. You just never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hiro, I agree on that. Marlboro not long ago spent a fortune (millions) with an incredibly stacked, talented staff to produce videos and do all these initiatives on their site and it did nothing - I think it was less than 6k people came to it? Some really low number. Anyway, morale of story: talent offline no matter how sexy or stacked seems to mean very little when it comes to the web - lots more failures than success stories. My partner and I were nobodies when we launched StyleDiary (www.stylediary.net) two years ago, out of an apartment, two people, no funding. Today it&#8217;s in 72 countries. You just never know.</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386366</link>
		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tim, very cool that you came to talk with us. I'm still not sold, but I think you sound like you've got confidence in what you think will work and that's cool. I think all of us here that own start ups can attest, a lot of things go how you think, some go opposite, and you sort of adjust all along the way. Good going to you and good luck!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tim, very cool that you came to talk with us. I&#8217;m still not sold, but I think you sound like you&#8217;ve got confidence in what you think will work and that&#8217;s cool. I think all of us here that own start ups can attest, a lot of things go how you think, some go opposite, and you sort of adjust all along the way. Good going to you and good luck!!! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: seancurt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386348</link>
		<dc:creator>seancurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hiro: dont know whether you know it or not but as far as joost goes.
Viacom already has their hands in Joost pockets.

Take a look at joost's content some of that content is from MTV and maybe a few others which is under Viacom. So once again there is a pattern of big name corps taking there positions in the game of keeping-up with the changing technology and directions that the future might have on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hiro: dont know whether you know it or not but as far as joost goes.<br />
Viacom already has their hands in Joost pockets.</p>
<p>Take a look at joost&#8217;s content some of that content is from MTV and maybe a few others which is under Viacom. So once again there is a pattern of big name corps taking there positions in the game of keeping-up with the changing technology and directions that the future might have on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: seancurt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386343</link>
		<dc:creator>seancurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim: here is my thing with your business model. I like what it is that the 5 man team is doing. I think of it as you guys taking a look at the future of TV and the internet and making an evaluation as to where things are going. Or better yet, asking yourselfs where do you want to be in the next 5-10-20 years (which is whereever the money's at, right?)

Now as for some of your business ideas... what plans do you have for the micro-networks to compensate as far as being assets of your partnership?
Its understandable that not just any deal like this would be worthy of some type of compensation but because you're dealing with what I believe to be a higher quality community in relations to the type of content the quality of content and the time spent creating it. Its of higher caliber than that of majority of the users over at say.....youtube....when you compare the two together you have to take notice to that marginal gap you two have. but my question is :How do you guys plan to supplement the micro-networks?

I know you guys probably say to yourselves hey. There has been a lot of success around the net without having to compensate the original content providers. But if you ask me, if you really want to head in the right direction is to offer some type of monetary compensation to "quality content providers" in this since you promote whats at the core of making any business model as successful as it could possibly be instead of being just a "moderate success"

Mike sabat: have you taken a look at these guys backgrounds. If you havent you might want to give that a look, it might help as to how they each may  play a roll. To me it looks as though they are marrying of internet and TV and what better way to do this than with having guys of strong backgrounds in different areas of TV and internet form a partnership

hopefully one of you guys have that uncommon factor that may not be present to the other 5 guys. :insight
hope you got that...in most cases its what determines a success or failure.
..hehe I wonder if there is a business for consulting companys in these types of decisions. 

Plus Mike, if you havent notice everyone is tossing money to any website that can harvest a growing user community. So they'll have that option which I doubt they'll sell off their community because they already know what to do when it comes to marketing. But what Im thinking these guys are gonna do is hold on to this "piece of rock" that they believe to be the future of internet and tv  so that they have a stake. Its kinda like saying they'll be to the internet what Viacom is to TV Networks.(a major Player in the game).

8million was a fairly small amount to fund something that could be as big as nnn and veoh is planning it to be.Im still trying to figure that one out too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: here is my thing with your business model. I like what it is that the 5 man team is doing. I think of it as you guys taking a look at the future of TV and the internet and making an evaluation as to where things are going. Or better yet, asking yourselfs where do you want to be in the next 5-10-20 years (which is whereever the money&#8217;s at, right?)</p>
<p>Now as for some of your business ideas&#8230; what plans do you have for the micro-networks to compensate as far as being assets of your partnership?<br />
Its understandable that not just any deal like this would be worthy of some type of compensation but because you&#8217;re dealing with what I believe to be a higher quality community in relations to the type of content the quality of content and the time spent creating it. Its of higher caliber than that of majority of the users over at say&#8230;..youtube&#8230;.when you compare the two together you have to take notice to that marginal gap you two have. but my question is :How do you guys plan to supplement the micro-networks?</p>
<p>I know you guys probably say to yourselves hey. There has been a lot of success around the net without having to compensate the original content providers. But if you ask me, if you really want to head in the right direction is to offer some type of monetary compensation to &#8220;quality content providers&#8221; in this since you promote whats at the core of making any business model as successful as it could possibly be instead of being just a &#8220;moderate success&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike sabat: have you taken a look at these guys backgrounds. If you havent you might want to give that a look, it might help as to how they each may  play a roll. To me it looks as though they are marrying of internet and TV and what better way to do this than with having guys of strong backgrounds in different areas of TV and internet form a partnership</p>
<p>hopefully one of you guys have that uncommon factor that may not be present to the other 5 guys. :insight<br />
hope you got that&#8230;in most cases its what determines a success or failure.<br />
..hehe I wonder if there is a business for consulting companys in these types of decisions. </p>
<p>Plus Mike, if you havent notice everyone is tossing money to any website that can harvest a growing user community. So they&#8217;ll have that option which I doubt they&#8217;ll sell off their community because they already know what to do when it comes to marketing. But what Im thinking these guys are gonna do is hold on to this &#8220;piece of rock&#8221; that they believe to be the future of internet and tv  so that they have a stake. Its kinda like saying they&#8217;ll be to the internet what Viacom is to TV Networks.(a major Player in the game).</p>
<p>8million was a fairly small amount to fund something that could be as big as nnn and veoh is planning it to be.Im still trying to figure that one out too.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiro</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386328</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The management behind NNN certainly are distinguished, but I wonder if they will be able to adapt to the online world.

 Joost is nothing like Nickelodeon or MTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The management behind NNN certainly are distinguished, but I wonder if they will be able to adapt to the online world.</p>
<p> Joost is nothing like Nickelodeon or MTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386320</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 23:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to NNN with their projects.  Like Drew said, they definitely brought in a lot of talent on the management end as well as the support/programming end, so it'll be interesting to see what moves they make in the coming months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to NNN with their projects.  Like Drew said, they definitely brought in a lot of talent on the management end as well as the support/programming end, so it&#8217;ll be interesting to see what moves they make in the coming months.</p>
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		<title>By: mike sabat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386259</link>
		<dc:creator>mike sabat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea is great although, as Nima said, I'm not sure how it will stack up next to Joost. 

5 founders also has to be a problem. Sure, all of their experience can only help, the more the better, but in reality that is tough to execute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is great although, as Nima said, I&#8217;m not sure how it will stack up next to Joost. </p>
<p>5 founders also has to be a problem. Sure, all of their experience can only help, the more the better, but in reality that is tough to execute.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/20/next-new-networks-building-micro-television-networks/#comment-1386230</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, you raised a really good question (200 shows, or 5000?).  It's something we talk about here, and we won't pretend to have the answer.  The main thing now is to try things and learn what works, and try to stay flexible enough to go where the opportunities are. 

As for some of Patricia and Sean's questions -- the only reasons JETSET wasn't in the Veoh release were because JETSET is not technically one of our networks, but a show we've licensed to build out a future network with, which we're working on now, and that JETSET was already available on Veoh as its own channel, as Steve and Zadi believed like we do they should be in as many places as possible.  I agree that there's lots of opportunity for anyone in this space, and the people who focus on their audiences will do well.  It's how we started -- Channel Frederator and VOD Cars were some of the very first video podcasts, launched without any funding or fanfare for personal reasons, and have been building their audiences for coming up on two years.  We won't be in every niche -- it's not possible -- and we're not looking to dominate the space; we think those days are over.  But we do hope to make it easier for our networks to succeed by allowing them to focus on serving their audiences, and consolidating efforts where it makes sense on things like technology platforms, advertising, and distribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, you raised a really good question (200 shows, or 5000?).  It&#8217;s something we talk about here, and we won&#8217;t pretend to have the answer.  The main thing now is to try things and learn what works, and try to stay flexible enough to go where the opportunities are. </p>
<p>As for some of Patricia and Sean&#8217;s questions &#8212; the only reasons JETSET wasn&#8217;t in the Veoh release were because JETSET is not technically one of our networks, but a show we&#8217;ve licensed to build out a future network with, which we&#8217;re working on now, and that JETSET was already available on Veoh as its own channel, as Steve and Zadi believed like we do they should be in as many places as possible.  I agree that there&#8217;s lots of opportunity for anyone in this space, and the people who focus on their audiences will do well.  It&#8217;s how we started &#8212; Channel Frederator and VOD Cars were some of the very first video podcasts, launched without any funding or fanfare for personal reasons, and have been building their audiences for coming up on two years.  We won&#8217;t be in every niche &#8212; it&#8217;s not possible &#8212; and we&#8217;re not looking to dominate the space; we think those days are over.  But we do hope to make it easier for our networks to succeed by allowing them to focus on serving their audiences, and consolidating efforts where it makes sense on things like technology platforms, advertising, and distribution.</p>
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