May 15, 2007

Angling Masters: Social Networking Comes to Fishing

Duncan Riley

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fish.pngJust when you’d thought you’d seen everything, along comes Angling Masters, a social networking site for recreational fisherman that also supports the creation of user generated online fishing tournaments.

Angling Masters has the standard features you would expect from a MySpace style social networking platform. Users are given their own page (called a cabin) and can add photos, buddies (friends), maintain a blog and list personal details such as location, memberships etc. The layout is slick. It has a nice, be it somewhat masculine feel to it, but unlike the many MySpace clones out there some one actually thought this one through.

The addition of user generated online fishing tournaments is claimed to be a first and I couldn’t find any other site competing in the space.

The “Buddy Tournament feature” allows users to create and participate in online competitions with their fishing “buddies” located anywhere in North America. The vast differences in rivers, lakes and the many fish species inhabiting them is overcome with an interesting twist. Length conversion tables and a series of algorithms allow fish of one species to be compared to fish of another, no matter where they were caught so all participants compete on a level playing field. 12 species of fish are covered and the back end considers how large each species typically grows in each geographic region and scores fish caught accordingly.

Cheating is overcome with tournaments having options such as requiring a witness for the catch and/or the requirement of participating anglers to use the official Angling Masters Measuring Tape to provide accurate measurements of the fish.

If fishing is your thing there are some great features on this site. The idea of competing in fishing competitions online seems so simple I’m surprised it hasn’t been done before.
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  1. Jay

    Whats next? I envision a social networking site for golfers (if its not already out there). That could actually turn out to be more interesting than the sport itself…

  2. Ella

    great idea, I think you can transfer it in many areas - in web1.0 we called it forum - now we have social networks. And there still many forums out there which are not transformed into a social networking style.

  3. Duncan Riley

    Jay
    an online golfing tournament! but it would be even harder to stop the cheating :-)

  4. Ben Mc

    Ah yes, but did you catch the marketing ploy??

    To catch a fish, you need bait right?

    To catch a fisherman and reel him into your “fishing network”, you need a “masterbaiter”

    http://www.anglingmasters.com/.....p;too=2003

    Yup, “masterbaiter” is a 24 year old beauty with 3 photo galleries you need to create an account to view :)

    Sounds like enough reason to get a few lonely fisherman to sign up.
    I have to hand it to them here, pretty clever actually.

  5. Christian

    It is a good idea.

    Is there already a social net for truck-drivers?
    I think you can make a social net for almost any group!

  6. Darren Stuart

    this is a fantastic idea, I am sure there will be loads of niches getting these type of sites.

    Nick, I actually created a prototype for a site where you could create your own tournaments and leagues for gamers(supagamers was the name for it), I realised pretty quickly that the cheating aspect was the deathnail in it. I did come up with a solution but I am not sharing it here :p

  7. Rian

    Funny, I’m actually quite fond of fishing and have been trying to think up a good way to do this.. not to monetize it, but more to just make a centralized area for fisher(wo)men to get together and share stuff.

    I kind of let the idea slide because there are already /so/ many of those type of websites over here in the netherlands, each covering their own little area and group of people.. meh, who knows, maybe this is the solution!

    That masterbait chick is absolutely bait.. and it’s working too ;)

  8. Pete

    Niche Social Networks seem to be “in” right now. But for fishermen? And I thought this Social Network for Sailors was a strange idea: http://www.allsailors.com

  9. Dr.Anil

    Here is a social networking site for Doctors : http://www.doctorshangout.com

  10. Brandon

    Actually social networking for fishing has been around for a long time. I actually started it back in 1995 with a site called Chesapeake Angler, it became Worldwide Angler and how as evolved into TidalFish.com. The site has 40,090 anglers registered. They get their own profile, where they fish, what type of boat, what fish they like to fish for etc.

    It actually truly works, we have had people meet and get married through it, people get together daily and fish together, we have tournaments, get together, the crabbing guys have two Tidal Fish Crab Feasts a year where about 200+ people show up.

    It is amazing. You can check it out at http://www.TidalFish.com

    Having been around the internet a long time, I will say niche sites work, it is just getting the community there and keeping the spam out with strict rules.

    Thanks

    Brandon
    Chief Angler
    TidalFish.com
    http://www.TidalFish.com

  11. The Fisher

    TroutFanatics.com is doing something similar, just without the “Marinas” and “Lodges” affect for businesses. Each fisherman has their own blog, pictures are geared up with Flickr, and the site also has buddy lists and a classified ads section for fishing folks to sell their used gear.

    http://www.troutfanatics.com

  12. pallet jack

    YASN - but this one looks alright - RB

  13. dave

    wow, more coverage of another basic install of an open source cms with a tweaked theme…you oughta just put up a site for opensource cms sites and pligg.com digg clones…or perhaps you could cover real companies, that would be cool. nice site, but so are the millions of others ones that you’re ignoring, so i can only imagine that you’re friends with these folks…

  14. angel

    do you know if this site used any community frameworks to build it?

  15. Drama 2.0

    Ella: you’re absolutely correct in that social networks are the new forum/message board. I wouldn’t call launching a niche social network a bad idea, but it’s not genius either. If we all agree that it’s not noteworthy when somebody launches a new message board for fans of ABBA, for instance, why should we find it interesting when somebody launches a social network for ABBA? That’s not to say that some of these niche products don’t have the opportunity to be successful in some fashion, but writing about “A new social network for _________ launched today…” is pointless. From what I can tell, Angling Masters has a little more than 2,000 members. No matter how small the niche, I think that most niche social networking services are going to require tens of thousands of regular users to be of real business value and that it’s not worth writing about these things, which are becoming as ubiquitous as message boards, unless they have some real traction.

  16. Ted Rheingold

    My how times have changed. 6 months ago this entry would have been drummed off this site as some pathetic small-scale copy-cat (or copy-trout I should say) that could never amount to anything except wasting VCs money and simply represents all that is wrong in Investing2.0

    Today more then half the responses are positive, and very few are critical of the actual service or model.

    I for one, think if it’s executed properly could be wildly successful for the owners and wildly popular for the people that use it. In fact I believe there is almost no end to the number of popular passion-centric communities that can exist. It’s unlikely one will have an exit like YouTube, but if done right could be very rewarding for those involved.

  17. Craig

    I agree Ted. There’s always going to be a community for someone out there. They don’t all have to be the massive ‘myspace’ experience to be passioniate, loyal and active.

    I think this one in particular has an interesting twist, though will struggle with two things: 1) Many (and thisi s a generalization) of the hardcore fishign folk, aren’t necesarily into the social netwrorking thing - just too much of an indoor sport. 2) Lack of gender diversitywill stifle interaction. Let’s face it, it alwasy comes back to hooking up

  18. bdb

    Well, I have never even considered joining a social network before, but being an avid fisherman this looks interesting. I am not interested in “hooking up” in the classic sense (only with a 21″ small mouth or 25″ rainbo). I ran a word_of_mouth fly fishing business that catered to business execs and firends/family, and we could have used the connectivity that this will provide. We had too few customers, and no way to increase visibility because we didn’t have commercial licenses and couldn’t blatantly advertise. Lots of room for the niche business, and I certainly considered this one. There are still many other niches that could use a social network, but what a lame biz to be in really.

  19. patricia

    I just don’t blink about social networks anymore. None of the new ones launched feel dynamic to me - they’re niche, so that wins a point, but the formats are the same as what worked two years ago (Myspace) and I think end users are rapidly evolving to adopt other communication and interactive formats online, like 1.0 message boards, posting to blogs, twitter, etc. Plus I already know from fact that a lot of stand alone social networks have a hard time keeping people sticky - I get called in to help people sort out what to do when they’ve launched and find that end users aren’t hanging around.

    I just think new sites need to keep pace with what’s working next, not what worked for the two or three dozen sites launched years ago, and both the web and end users have evolved.

    Niche sites are fine, but I think they need to be better built around the users in the niche, versus recreating over and over and over what worked somewhere else.

  20. Chris Bennett

    Patricia,

    It is actually really sticky in that most users are active on the site daily and at worse weekly. I agree with you that copying the 2 year old social model is generally a little old school, but I think it works here because the Fishing industry is so old school that this is still on the fore front.

    Just do a search in Google for Fishing sites or fishing community or even look at the link to the other site above in the comments that is supposed to be similar. The industry is in the dark ages and that is why I think Angling Masters is brilliant

  21. patricia

    @ chris, I didn’t mean you guys specifically. Just in general.

  22. Chris Bennett

    Which I totally agree with you :)

  23. Richard

    Have you seen http://www.bountyfishing.com

  24. Richard

    Over $125,000 Compete from anywhere in North America

  25. Richard

    Verification of your catch
    BountyFishing has exclusive rights for the use of world’s most advanced digital imaging forensics software. This software is based on counterfeit digital image detection used by the world’s top law enforcement agencies. BountyFishing’s patent pending measurement technology is used to verify the accuracy of competitive photos and declare authentic winners in the tournaments.

    Here is how it works
    After your images are uploaded to our database, they are imported into the BountyFishing Forensics software.
    The software first detects the image’s authenticity to ensure it is the original photo.
    Using the human eye and other reference points in the photo of you holding your catch, the software verifies the accuracy of your ruler.
    Finally the length of your fish is measured and validated from the image of the fish and ruler.

  26. Richard

    Click the link http://www.bountyfishing.com/howto/compete & learn How to Compete.

  27. Richard

    No need to buy a ruler…

  28. Richard

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