Comments on: Motorola to Announce iPhone Competitor http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:57:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: W910i http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-2469162 W910i Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:35:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-2469162 to compete Iphone, motorola need some more feature than Iphone but in suitable price tag also. to compete Iphone, motorola need some more feature than Iphone but in suitable price tag also.

]]> By: Sean http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1403418 Sean Wed, 30 May 2007 22:17:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1403418 People make phone calls. Some people like to listen to music. Some get lost and need a map... They generally don't care what acronym brought it to them or a micorsecond difference in delivery. The iPhone will carry a hefty weight of personality, built in and branded, enough that people might even pay for it. And in the end, that's all that matters. Right stockholders? People make phone calls. Some people like to listen to music. Some get lost and need a map… They generally don’t care what acronym brought it to them or a micorsecond difference in delivery. The iPhone will carry a hefty weight of personality, built in and branded, enough that people might even pay for it. And in the end, that’s all that matters. Right stockholders?

]]> By: rufus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378221 rufus Tue, 15 May 2007 17:57:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378221 i don't see anything that my sony ericson w810i won't do! once i got opera mini browser on it! there is no syncing, because there is no itunes, plus it takes a fullsize duo core memory card! the "walkman" is the best bet out right now...like i said show me something that this new phone does that my old phone doesn't! i don’t see anything that my sony ericson w810i won’t do! once i got opera mini browser on it! there is no syncing, because there is no itunes, plus it takes a fullsize duo core memory card! the “walkman” is the best bet out right now…like i said show me something that this new phone does that my old phone doesn’t!

]]> By: snakedoctor http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378195 snakedoctor Tue, 15 May 2007 17:28:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378195 HOW ABOUT A F***ING PHONE THAT REALLY WORKS WELL, LIKE A HARD LINE PHONE??? HOW ABOUT A F***ING PHONE THAT REALLY WORKS WELL, LIKE A HARD LINE PHONE???

]]> By: gman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378105 gman Tue, 15 May 2007 16:02:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1378105 complain all you we always end up buying all these that nobody is ever really happy with complain all you we always end up buying all these that nobody is ever really happy with

]]> By: psms.mobi » ““We are working with another company to deliver movies on SD cards. You can start watching…” http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1377161 psms.mobi » ““We are working with another company to deliver movies on SD cards. You can start watching…” Tue, 15 May 2007 01:44:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1377161 [...] movies on SD cards. You can start watching unbelievable quality movies,” Zander said.” - Motorola to Announce iPhone Competitor Rain or Shine? Free Local [...] [...] movies on SD cards. You can start watching unbelievable quality movies,” Zander said.” - Motorola to Announce iPhone Competitor Rain or Shine? Free Local [...]

]]> By: tjp http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372521 tjp Sat, 12 May 2007 02:28:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372521 bdb has the right position, just not the right reason. You think Apple couldn't put 3G in the iPhone if they wanted? Sure they could, and they would have gotten lots of good press in one of the only areas that they've gotten bad press about the iPhone. You think Jobs and his Marketing staff didn't get that? Sure they did, but they picked the lesser of the two sources of bad press, because on this one, it's not about the network, it's about the battery. Compare the number of angry customers who *really* want, need or use what 3G gives you over EDGE to the number you'd have if the iPhone only runs for a couple of hours. 3G consumes *much* more power and after all of the crap Apple took over iPod battery life, they were sure not to step in that again. People will wait for their Google maps to show up, but they'll leave their iPhone at home if it runs out of juice twice a day. You think that marketing team's focused on that 10M first year target? Sure they are, but they're also thinking about the years after that as well. 3G will come in due time, when the batteries are there to support it along with everything else the device is doing. bdb has the right position, just not the right reason. You think Apple couldn’t put 3G in the iPhone if they wanted? Sure they could, and they would have gotten lots of good press in one of the only areas that they’ve gotten bad press about the iPhone. You think Jobs and his Marketing staff didn’t get that? Sure they did, but they picked the lesser of the two sources of bad press, because on this one, it’s not about the network, it’s about the battery.

Compare the number of angry customers who *really* want, need or use what 3G gives you over EDGE to the number you’d have if the iPhone only runs for a couple of hours. 3G consumes *much* more power and after all of the crap Apple took over iPod battery life, they were sure not to step in that again. People will wait for their Google maps to show up, but they’ll leave their iPhone at home if it runs out of juice twice a day.

You think that marketing team’s focused on that 10M first year target? Sure they are, but they’re also thinking about the years after that as well. 3G will come in due time, when the batteries are there to support it along with everything else the device is doing.

]]> By: bdb http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372352 bdb Fri, 11 May 2007 20:08:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372352 Everyone bitching about 3G are just ridiculous. Neither Cingular nor Tmobile have 3G networks with worthy coverage, and most of you suffered thru the dotbomb dial-up days (i.e. 56K). Edge provides 212K, which is as fast as most people using GSM in the US are used to. Having used Sprint's 3g it is quite fast, but for email and SMS (typical cell data usage) it isn't necessary. Everyone bitching about 3G are just ridiculous. Neither Cingular nor Tmobile have 3G networks with worthy coverage, and most of you suffered thru the dotbomb dial-up days (i.e. 56K). Edge provides 212K, which is as fast as most people using GSM in the US are used to. Having used Sprint’s 3g it is quite fast, but for email and SMS (typical cell data usage) it isn’t necessary.

]]> By: MooseDesign http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372156 MooseDesign Fri, 11 May 2007 17:37:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372156 I think Erik and Jeremy hit the nail on the head... Motorola makes beautiful hardware, but their software is the bane of many mobile phone users' existence (including mine). Its horribly buggy, its difficult to navigate, its ugly. Competition is a wonderful thing, but I think Motorola would have to completely overhaul their approach to user experience if they were to deliver a product that would deliver on Zander's promise, and indeed the (as yet unverified) promise of the iPhone. It does worry me though that Motorola hasn't delivered a decent user experience within the existing palette of media and phone services that is available and are looking to add movies to the mix... I think Erik and Jeremy hit the nail on the head… Motorola makes beautiful hardware, but their software is the bane of many mobile phone users’ existence (including mine). Its horribly buggy, its difficult to navigate, its ugly.

Competition is a wonderful thing, but I think Motorola would have to completely overhaul their approach to user experience if they were to deliver a product that would deliver on Zander’s promise, and indeed the (as yet unverified) promise of the iPhone. It does worry me though that Motorola hasn’t delivered a decent user experience within the existing palette of media and phone services that is available and are looking to add movies to the mix…

]]> By: pallet jack http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372017 pallet jack Fri, 11 May 2007 14:28:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1372017 The problem: All phones being made, are being done with "Carrier exclusivity" This makes the phone hard to use on other networks for a couple years, and also makes sure Cingular gets to pick what software is on it (bundled) ... - Is there a OpenSource cellphone project? ... - Until we fix the over priced (It doesnt cost $70 to make the $300 razor) market things like this will be for the rich and spoiled, not for the mass market. The problem:

All phones being made, are being done with “Carrier exclusivity” This makes the phone hard to use on other networks for a couple years, and also makes sure Cingular gets to pick what software is on it (bundled) …

- Is there a OpenSource cellphone project? …

- Until we fix the over priced (It doesnt cost $70 to make the $300 razor) market things like this will be for the rich and spoiled, not for the mass market.

]]> By: Jeremy Roush http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371786 Jeremy Roush Fri, 11 May 2007 08:14:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371786 Its not the circuitry that ultimately matters: its the software running on the circuitry. No other company making cell phones can come anywhere close to Apple in software ease of use. Other companies simply don't have the people who understand and/or care about designing no-compromise, best-of-class user interfaces. The iPhone will appeal to the mass audience because it will be the easiest phone to use. It will have the easiest address book to manage and sync. It will have iPod functionality. It will have Safari. Non-techy people will instantly understand how to use it, will enjoy using it, will constantly be showing their friends/family how it works. The first time you actually see an iPhone in use makes every other "phone" feel like a relic from the 70s. ITS THE SOFTWARE, NOT THE HARDWARE. Watch this again if you need a reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk&eurl Its not the circuitry that ultimately matters: its the software running on the circuitry. No other company making cell phones can come anywhere close to Apple in software ease of use. Other companies simply don’t have the people who understand and/or care about designing no-compromise, best-of-class user interfaces.

The iPhone will appeal to the mass audience because it will be the easiest phone to use. It will have the easiest address book to manage and sync. It will have iPod functionality. It will have Safari. Non-techy people will instantly understand how to use it, will enjoy using it, will constantly be showing their friends/family how it works. The first time you actually see an iPhone in use makes every other “phone” feel like a relic from the 70s.

ITS THE SOFTWARE, NOT THE HARDWARE.

Watch this again if you need a reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....k&eurl

]]> By: Bluevoter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371763 Bluevoter Fri, 11 May 2007 07:45:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371763 The market for mobile devices is not really in the US. The US is many years behind the advanced countries of Northern Europe, Japan, and especially Korea. The market here is fragmented, the networks are slow, and coverage is spotty. Even the BlackBerry and its competitors aimed at the US business and high-end consumer market is not really significant for the worldwide market. The action is in high speed delivery of rich content to consumers, particularly people younger than 30. The iPhone is elegant, but its initial US version is inherently crippled for now by the low bandwidth of the AT&T /Cingular network. If you are really interested in what is going to happen with mobile devices, look outside North America. The market for mobile devices is not really in the US. The US is many years behind the advanced countries of Northern Europe, Japan, and especially Korea. The market here is fragmented, the networks are slow, and coverage is spotty. Even the BlackBerry and its competitors aimed at the US business and high-end consumer market is not really significant for the worldwide market. The action is in high speed delivery of rich content to consumers, particularly people younger than 30. The iPhone is elegant, but its initial US version is inherently crippled for now by the low bandwidth of the AT&T /Cingular network. If you are really interested in what is going to happen with mobile devices, look outside North America.

]]> By: Charlie Rockwave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371737 Charlie Rockwave Fri, 11 May 2007 06:51:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371737 Previously I had suspected that Ed Zander is a wind bag dork. Now I am sure of it. Previously I had suspected that Ed Zander is a wind bag dork. Now I am sure of it.

]]> By: Sean McBride http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371704 Sean McBride Fri, 11 May 2007 05:59:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371704 Hi-res video on SD cards? I'm pretty sure that he doesn't understand why the iPhone is going to be popular at all. HELLOOOOO? I don't want to watch movies on a tiny screen! I want to unify my life and have one mobile device to do everything I need while I'm out. And I want it to have an outstanding interface that is respectful of ME, not one that drives me nuts constantly. *sigh* The mobile industry seems to be especially susceptible to buzzword-itis. Hi-res video on SD cards? I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t understand why the iPhone is going to be popular at all. HELLOOOOO? I don’t want to watch movies on a tiny screen! I want to unify my life and have one mobile device to do everything I need while I’m out. And I want it to have an outstanding interface that is respectful of ME, not one that drives me nuts constantly.

*sigh* The mobile industry seems to be especially susceptible to buzzword-itis.

]]> By: Sandeep Garg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371672 Sandeep Garg Fri, 11 May 2007 05:15:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371672 If nobody could match the success of something much simpler -- ipod; what makes us think that they could come with in miles of iphone. I bet Ed Gander has an ipod. And he will have an iphone soon. If nobody could match the success of something much simpler — ipod; what makes us think that they could come with in miles of iphone. I bet Ed Gander has an ipod. And he will have an iphone soon.

]]> By: km4 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371542 km4 Fri, 11 May 2007 02:25:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371542 Ed Zander.........A BIG YAWN iPhone has the luddite cel phone manufactures shitting bricks Ed Zander………A BIG YAWN

iPhone has the luddite cel phone manufactures shitting bricks

]]> By: Tony Chen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371537 Tony Chen Fri, 11 May 2007 02:21:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371537 The iPohney, Poohy poohy Phoo! The iPohney,

Poohy poohy Phoo!

]]> By: Duncan Riley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371512 Duncan Riley Fri, 11 May 2007 01:43:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371512 gilltots, i nital launch markets don't mean they won't be competing head to head soon there after, and there are rumors that Apple will release a 3G version of the iPhone for Europe as well. I'd also note that the Zander made the link to the iPhone as well in his talk. gilltots, i
nital launch markets don’t mean they won’t be competing head to head soon there after, and there are rumors that Apple will release a 3G version of the iPhone for Europe as well. I’d also note that the Zander made the link to the iPhone as well in his talk.

]]> By: topazsamos.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371507 topazsamos.com Fri, 11 May 2007 01:38:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371507 All telecom companies are in such a rush to get every imaginable feature crammed into these devices, that they have lost focus on it's primary objective. It's supposed to be a phone. It's supposed to be able to place and receive calls. Yet with every new feature that gets added the reliability of the primary function suffers. The commonplace thing now it for people to have to reboot their cellphone because it crashed, or reboot it because the poorly coded third party horoscope application they installed has overloaded the CPU. How many of these cellphones can make it past a day without needing to be re-charged. I say innovate, expand, but not at any cost. We have these multifunctional 'phone like' devices - Media Monsters as Zander reportedly calls them - running on networks that either can't fully support their feature set, or force them to run at reduced throughput. And with regards to Motorola, it's time to stop riding the RAZR wave, or any other 4 letter derivative thereof, and make a phone that works with software that actually makes sense. All telecom companies are in such a rush to get every imaginable feature crammed into these devices, that they have lost focus on it’s primary objective. It’s supposed to be a phone. It’s supposed to be able to place and receive calls.

Yet with every new feature that gets added the reliability of the primary function suffers. The commonplace thing now it for people to have to reboot their cellphone because it crashed, or reboot it because the poorly coded third party horoscope application they installed has overloaded the CPU. How many of these cellphones can make it past a day without needing to be re-charged.

I say innovate, expand, but not at any cost. We have these multifunctional ‘phone like’ devices - Media Monsters as Zander reportedly calls them - running on networks that either can’t fully support their feature set, or force them to run at reduced throughput.

And with regards to Motorola, it’s time to stop riding the RAZR wave, or any other 4 letter derivative thereof, and make a phone that works with software that actually makes sense.

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371505 Paul Fri, 11 May 2007 01:38:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371505 Better than the iPhone that was announced, or than the one that actually ships? Bet on the iPhone finding several key features (voice control, but that's just a detail) that were denied in its announcement. I'd guess it will become a wireless media bridge pretty quickly (think Sirius/XM substitute). Better than the iPhone that was announced, or than the one that actually ships?

Bet on the iPhone finding several key features (voice control, but that’s just a detail) that were denied in its announcement. I’d guess it will become a wireless media bridge pretty quickly (think Sirius/XM substitute).

]]> By: Erik Schwartz http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371498 Erik Schwartz Fri, 11 May 2007 01:28:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371498 Moto makes great hardware but their phone software user experience is generally dreadful. I suspect the iPhone will have a number of issues (it's too big, I am dubious of the battery, EDGE blows), but the SW execution will be really solid. Moto makes great hardware but their phone software user experience is generally dreadful.

I suspect the iPhone will have a number of issues (it’s too big, I am dubious of the battery, EDGE blows), but the SW execution will be really solid.

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371490 David Mackey Fri, 11 May 2007 01:21:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371490 Should be pretty exciting to see innovation in this field. Cell phones are still so lacking. Should be pretty exciting to see innovation in this field. Cell phones are still so lacking.

]]> By: Joe Jordan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371488 Joe Jordan Fri, 11 May 2007 01:20:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371488 Fabian, I often see this mentioned, but no one ever gives an example of these super-duper phones that are found overseas. Examples please. Fabian, I often see this mentioned, but no one ever gives an example of these super-duper phones that are found overseas. Examples please.

]]> By: gilltots http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371485 gilltots Fri, 11 May 2007 01:18:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371485 A few questions: 1) if the iPhone is coming out in the US (europe in q4, possibly), and this motorola phone is coming out in Europe, how is it a direct competitor? 2) did Motorola miss that part of Macworld where Jobs showed the completely innovative interface? is the motorola phone going to have a slick interface or just be the same old crap in a shiny new box? play movies and stuff is cool and all but that isn't exactly a paradigm shift, is it? 3) where are the friggin pictures?? (this one is rhetorical) A few questions:

1) if the iPhone is coming out in the US (europe in q4, possibly), and this motorola phone is coming out in Europe, how is it a direct competitor?

2) did Motorola miss that part of Macworld where Jobs showed the completely innovative interface? is the motorola phone going to have a slick interface or just be the same old crap in a shiny new box? play movies and stuff is cool and all but that isn’t exactly a paradigm shift, is it?

3) where are the friggin pictures?? (this one is rhetorical)

]]> By: Fabian http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371479 Fabian Fri, 11 May 2007 01:12:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/motorola-to-announce-iphone-competitor/#comment-1371479 None of these devices are really braking news. Go to Asia and they laugh at the iPhone. To them the iPhone is so 5 minutes ago. None of these devices are really braking news. Go to Asia and they laugh at the iPhone. To them the iPhone is so 5 minutes ago.

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