Comments on: Bookmark, Copy, Note and Share: SharedCopy.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:08:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Singapore Entrepreneurs ~ Venture Capital Funding in Singapore » Blog Archive » News Flash: Wall Street Journal article on SharedCopy.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1417607 Singapore Entrepreneurs ~ Venture Capital Funding in Singapore » Blog Archive » News Flash: Wall Street Journal article on SharedCopy.com Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:38:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1417607 [...] our local web 2.0 start-up is making waves in the media. Already featured in the famous TechCrunch and Folksonomy, they are once again making headlines in the famous Wall Street Journal in an [...] [...] our local web 2.0 start-up is making waves in the media. Already featured in the famous TechCrunch and Folksonomy, they are once again making headlines in the famous Wall Street Journal in an [...]

]]> By: DB http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1374069 DB Sun, 13 May 2007 09:25:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1374069 this software is so buggy, highlights do not work quite often. and everything feel so slooow. you guys are releasing an alpha version and pretending it to be beta, wasting everyone's time. this software is so buggy, highlights do not work quite often. and everything feel so slooow.
you guys are releasing an alpha version and pretending it to be beta, wasting everyone’s time.

]]> By: James Seng http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1372763 James Seng Sat, 12 May 2007 10:41:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1372763 @Ed - You made a very interesting observation of how these could be evolved into some sort of user-generated referrers on-top of the existing web, or "rewiring the web" as you called it. We will see what we can do on this :-) @Ed - You made a very interesting observation of how these could be evolved into some sort of user-generated referrers on-top of the existing web, or “rewiring the web” as you called it.

We will see what we can do on this :-)

]]> By: Ed White http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1372178 Ed White Fri, 11 May 2007 18:04:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1372178 I think we are all missing something really important here. This is not about bookmarking. That is perhaps the least interesting thing about annotations. And most of these services are not getting the whole picture either. What Third Voice did was allow users to create their own web on top of the Web. Sure it was clunky, you had to insert URLs into your stikis to link things together but for the first time any user could modify any page and connect existing pages up any way they wanted. Fleck and Activeweave let you put URLs in your notes and Trailfire goes further with an interesting concept called a trail that automatically links notes together. Sure these can be used for bookmarking but that would be missing the big idea. Annotation and cross-referencing are nice simple applications of this technology but what is killer about all this is when people figure out that they can basically repurpose the entire Web by modifying pages and rewiring the connections. I think we are all missing something really important here. This is not about bookmarking. That is perhaps the least interesting thing about annotations. And most of these services are not getting the whole picture either.

What Third Voice did was allow users to create their own web on top of the Web. Sure it was clunky, you had to insert URLs into your stikis to link things together but for the first time any user could modify any page and connect existing pages up any way they wanted.

Fleck and Activeweave let you put URLs in your notes and Trailfire goes further with an interesting concept called a trail that automatically links notes together. Sure these can be used for bookmarking but that would be missing the big idea. Annotation and cross-referencing are nice simple applications of this technology but what is killer about all this is when people figure out that they can basically repurpose the entire Web by modifying pages and rewiring the connections.

]]> By: choonkeat http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371658 choonkeat Fri, 11 May 2007 04:51:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371658 @jonah: I'd like to learn more about how "its hard to use". Could you contact me? Hope to gain some insights @jonah: I’d like to learn more about how “its hard to use”. Could you contact me? Hope to gain some insights

]]> By: Techcrunched! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371447 Techcrunched! Fri, 11 May 2007 00:31:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371447 [...] was Techcrunched a few hours ago. A more positive milestone than the previous one to say the least! I'm very [...] [...] was Techcrunched a few hours ago. A more positive milestone than the previous one to say the least! I’m very [...]

]]> By: Jonah http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371427 Jonah Fri, 11 May 2007 00:07:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371427 This thing is hard to use. I want to be to click a link, go to a web page, add some notes, and others in my group can instantly see them. I hate bookmarklets, plugins, etc. This thing is hard to use. I want to be to click a link, go to a web page, add some notes, and others in my group can instantly see them. I hate bookmarklets, plugins, etc.

]]> By: James Seng http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371386 James Seng Thu, 10 May 2007 22:55:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371386 @Laurent - Yep, it is in our roadmap to have a related sharedcopy links. @Harro! - It is called ThirdVoice, a spin off from Kent Ridge Research Lab. I remember them well because we are the only two tech startup that catch people attention in Singapore. (I developed the concept of internationalized domain names in 1999. it is now an IETF standard and is currently deployed all over the world) @Prateek - The usability is more important to us then the eye-candy. We dont dismiss the eye-candy tho, but we are a small setup and thus we have to prioritize. @Jamie Martin - We need to do some more testing on Opera. Thanks for the feedback. @Laurent - Yep, it is in our roadmap to have a related sharedcopy links.

@Harro! - It is called ThirdVoice, a spin off from Kent Ridge Research Lab. I remember them well because we are the only two tech startup that catch people attention in Singapore. (I developed the concept of internationalized domain names in 1999. it is now an IETF standard and is currently deployed all over the world)

@Prateek - The usability is more important to us then the eye-candy. We dont dismiss the eye-candy tho, but we are a small setup and thus we have to prioritize.

@Jamie Martin - We need to do some more testing on Opera. Thanks for the feedback.

]]> By: Sriram Krishnan™ Live » Singapore based Sharedcopy.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371375 Sriram Krishnan™ Live » Singapore based Sharedcopy.com Thu, 10 May 2007 22:40:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371375 [...] According to Techcrunch, [...] [...] According to Techcrunch, [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371359 TechCrunch Japanese Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371359 <strong>SharedCopy.com、ブックマーク・コピー・コメントを共有。...</strong> ウェブページにコメントを付けて共有するというコンセプトは決して新しくない。以前にもこの分野を取り上げたことがあるが、さまざまなスタートアップが、機能を絞ってしのぎを.... SharedCopy.com、ブックマーク・コピー・コメントを共有。…

ウェブページにコメントを付けて共有するというコンセプトは決して新しくない。以前にもこの分野を取り上げたことがあるが、さまざまなスタートアップが、機能を絞ってしのぎを….

]]> By: Jamie Martin http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371284 Jamie Martin Thu, 10 May 2007 20:04:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371284 Doesn't work in Opera, seems slow and unresponsive. I'll be sticking with Diigo. :) Doesn’t work in Opera, seems slow and unresponsive.

I’ll be sticking with Diigo. :)

]]> By: Prateek http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371225 Prateek Thu, 10 May 2007 18:36:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371225 @James Seng : How can you release a product to the people without you yourself being happy with the UI. I am working on a product too and one of the reasons it isnt out yet and is still in private beta is because I would have spent a lot of time changing the UI. @James Seng : How can you release a product to the people without you yourself being happy with the UI. I am working on a product too and one of the reasons it isnt out yet and is still in private beta is because I would have spent a lot of time changing the UI.

]]> By: Harro! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371224 Harro! Thu, 10 May 2007 18:31:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371224 Looks good. I thought the concept was pretty cool. Similar to that first singapore web 1.0 startup that made it to fortune mag for postits. Can't remember the name.... Looks good. I thought the concept was pretty cool. Similar to that first singapore web 1.0 startup that made it to fortune mag for postits. Can’t remember the name….

]]> By: Laurent http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371216 Laurent Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371216 wrt "content is free", I meant that content doesn't want to only reside at a specific URL. I was not arguing that content is free of market value. wrt “content is free”, I meant that content doesn’t want to only reside at a specific URL. I was not arguing that content is free of market value.

]]> By: Laurent http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371215 Laurent Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371215 One problem with this and other tools is that they tie annotations to a specific URL. But <b>content is free</b>: it is replicated across URLs, read by different tools (e.g. your Google RSS reader), etc. So as a user, you end up not seeing annotations that should appear on the content you're viewing, simply because you're viewing it from a different URL. So I think we need to have a <b>content-based annotation system</b>, not just one that is URL-based. One problem with this and other tools is that they tie annotations to a specific URL.
But content is free: it is replicated across URLs, read by different tools (e.g. your Google RSS reader), etc.
So as a user, you end up not seeing annotations that should appear on the content you’re viewing, simply because you’re viewing it from a different URL.
So I think we need to have a content-based annotation system, not just one that is URL-based.

]]> By: Tony Wright http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371192 Tony Wright Thu, 10 May 2007 17:45:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371192 http://www.linebuzz.com is doing something similar, with an emphasis on inline comments and discussion (mostly blog-centric). http://www.linebuzz.com is doing something similar, with an emphasis on inline comments and discussion (mostly blog-centric).

]]> By: Living in First Life, Dos http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371118 Living in First Life, Dos Thu, 10 May 2007 16:24:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371118 This is a feature, not a product. More on Living in First Life about why I wish this was a joke. This is a feature, not a product. More on Living in First Life about why I wish this was a joke.

]]> By: Jay (living in First Life) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371114 Jay (living in First Life) Thu, 10 May 2007 16:22:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371114 The site comes with Twitter support? Great. It can build on the 5000 people in the world who use Twitter. The concept is not particularly unique or particularly well executed. There really should be a couple of reasons to talk about new "products" since this clearly isn't a business. A) Extremely innovative product regardless of founding team - e.g. Friendster back in the day B) Innovative product launched by experienced founders - e.g. Joost C) Product launched by major company - e.g. GMail If you're unknown, your product needs to be amazing or you need to have some major hook-ups to get traction. If you're well known, you'll have some hook-ups to help you get traction. Obviously, if you're a major company, you have a huge install base to push products on (which is why Gmail is just brilliant). The site comes with Twitter support? Great. It can build on the 5000 people in the world who use Twitter.

The concept is not particularly unique or particularly well executed. There really should be a couple of reasons to talk about new “products” since this clearly isn’t a business.

A) Extremely innovative product regardless of founding team - e.g. Friendster back in the day
B) Innovative product launched by experienced founders - e.g. Joost
C) Product launched by major company - e.g. GMail

If you’re unknown, your product needs to be amazing or you need to have some major hook-ups to get traction. If you’re well known, you’ll have some hook-ups to help you get traction. Obviously, if you’re a major company, you have a huge install base to push products on (which is why Gmail is just brilliant).

]]> By: David Spark http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371106 David Spark Thu, 10 May 2007 16:13:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371106 I ran into the <a HREF="http://www.fleck.com/" rel="nofollow">Fleck</a> guys last night at the Involver party at Harlot in San Francisco. These three guys from Amsterdam got a funny gag where they all show up to parties in white suits looking like Tom Wolfe or early Steve Martin. They really stick out in a dark night club where everyone is wearing black. They do another gag where they wear the same suits, but cheaper, and hand out Sharpies allowing people to annotate their jackets. Cute gag. <a HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vannispen/301894708/" rel="nofollow">pictures</a> I ran into the Fleck guys last night at the Involver party at Harlot in San Francisco. These three guys from Amsterdam got a funny gag where they all show up to parties in white suits looking like Tom Wolfe or early Steve Martin. They really stick out in a dark night club where everyone is wearing black. They do another gag where they wear the same suits, but cheaper, and hand out Sharpies allowing people to annotate their jackets. Cute gag. pictures

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371090 Anonymous Thu, 10 May 2007 16:01:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371090 This looks very similar to Jeteye - whatever happened to that good idea? This looks very similar to Jeteye - whatever happened to that good idea?

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371089 David Thu, 10 May 2007 15:58:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371089 Nevertheless, James, It is a good start for Singapore in the web 2.0 game. Overtime , the system will have improvement, and having to feature in techcrunch will encourage more startup in singapore Nevertheless, James, It is a good start for Singapore in the web 2.0 game. Overtime , the system will have improvement, and having to feature in techcrunch will encourage more startup in singapore

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371088 Paul Thu, 10 May 2007 15:57:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371088 James, it looks like you have a great web site and service going there, and the design isn't *that* bad. :) James, it looks like you have a great web site and service going there, and the design isn’t *that* bad. :)

]]> By: Mark J http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371071 Mark J Thu, 10 May 2007 15:39:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371071 If your looking for a business app that does this fully integrated with a bunch of other collaboration stuff check out http://www.centraldesktop.com they have had "save web pages" w/ cache, full text search and annotation for a couple of years now. We have been using this to track industry and competitors news for a while now. This "feature" is nothing new. If your looking for a business app that does this fully integrated with a bunch of other collaboration stuff check out http://www.centraldesktop.com

they have had “save web pages” w/ cache, full text search and annotation for a couple of years now.

We have been using this to track industry and competitors news for a while now.

This “feature” is nothing new.

]]> By: James Seng http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371041 James Seng Thu, 10 May 2007 15:09:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371041 Duncan, thanks for the article featuring us. @Prateek - me neither :-) we work on web design again soon. @Toufeeq - Web-Marker is a great tool. I use it sometimes myself ;-) @Matt - Javascript is not needed to view the annotation, only if you want to mark up. We would love to hear any suggestions TC folks have for us. Duncan, thanks for the article featuring us.

@Prateek - me neither :-) we work on web design again soon.

@Toufeeq - Web-Marker is a great tool. I use it sometimes myself ;-)

@Matt - Javascript is not needed to view the annotation, only if you want to mark up.

We would love to hear any suggestions TC folks have for us.

]]> By: w2i http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371033 w2i Thu, 10 May 2007 14:49:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/10/bookmark-copy-note-and-share-sharedcopycom/#comment-1371033 This might be of interest: Content Owners vs. Content Mash-Ups http://nextnetnews.blogspot.com/2007/02/content-owners-vs-content-mash-ups.html This might be of interest:

Content Owners vs. Content Mash-Ups
http://nextnetnews.blogspot.co.....h-ups.html

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