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	<title>Comments on: Photobucket Was A Steal v. Google/YouTube</title>
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		<title>By: Robert antony mickleburgh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2772713</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert antony mickleburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please, please let me know if pokemon are real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please, please let me know if pokemon are real</p>
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		<title>By: christina</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2653359</link>
		<dc:creator>christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>need help</description>
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		<title>By: Sarky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2591837</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect the next big purchase to be for someone in the online backup space.  online photo sharing was sexy, whereas those guys storing all your data don&#039;t get lots of props like PhotoBucket and YouTube.  I predict the next big purchase to be Mozy, Box, or http://www.myotherdrive.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect the next big purchase to be for someone in the online backup space.  online photo sharing was sexy, whereas those guys storing all your data don&#8217;t get lots of props like PhotoBucket and YouTube.  I predict the next big purchase to be Mozy, Box, or <a href="http://www.myotherdrive.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.myotherdrive.com'>http://www.myotherdrive.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: PRU</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2539260</link>
		<dc:creator>PRU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEHH YAH RIGHT

P.S RIGHT BACK NOW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEHH YAH RIGHT</p>
<p>P.S RIGHT BACK NOW</p>
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		<title>By: PRU</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2539257</link>
		<dc:creator>PRU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAY IM NEW TO THIS I READ ABOUT U AND YOU SOUND INTERESTING 
 
P.S RIGHT BACK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAY IM NEW TO THIS I READ ABOUT U AND YOU SOUND INTERESTING </p>
<p>P.S RIGHT BACK</p>
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		<title>By: In M&#38;A, almost anything goes - MySpace &#38; Photobucket &#171; The thing about useful stuff is</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-2019331</link>
		<dc:creator>In M&#38;A, almost anything goes - MySpace &#38; Photobucket &#171; The thing about useful stuff is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch observes &#8220;Some would argue that they play dirty poker, but shutting Photobucket down at a crucial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Startups are based in faith, and the ones that succeed have no fear</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1590581</link>
		<dc:creator>Startups are based in faith, and the ones that succeed have no fear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the success of a few like Photobucket, Fotolog, FeedBurner, there is much talk about a Bubble 2.0. And certainly, as it seems to happen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the success of a few like Photobucket, Fotolog, FeedBurner, there is much talk about a Bubble 2.0. And certainly, as it seems to happen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Keegan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1369103</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a terrific deal for MySpace. I am following all of the different acquisitions of late and had previously concluded that everyone has been overpaying. Looks like there are a few good buys out there and Google isn&#039;t the only company competing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a terrific deal for MySpace. I am following all of the different acquisitions of late and had previously concluded that everyone has been overpaying. Looks like there are a few good buys out there and Google isn&#8217;t the only company competing.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Dodge</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368980</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of the negotiations between two farmers from Maine at the county fair. One farmer was showing off his &quot;blue ribbon&quot; dog and proposing to sell it for $100,000. The other farmers were laughing hysterically at the idea of a $100K dog. Dogs don&#039;t produce income. How could a dog be worth $100K? Then one farmer stepped up and offered to trade two of his $50,000 cats for the $100K dog. The dog owner quickly agreed and bragged to all his friends how he sold his dog for $100K. 

Acquisitions that are done as stock swaps are obviously not the same as cash transactions. Public companies often use their stock as trading currency for acquisitions since it has no cash impact on their business. However, stock transactions dilute the value of other shareholders, sometimes significantly. In a rising stock market no one really notices because the steady share price increase masks the dilution. When the stock market turns the problems are exposed...and magnified.

I wrote a blog about the psychology of acquisitions, and related it to this deal. See http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2007/05/ill_trade_my_tw.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of the negotiations between two farmers from Maine at the county fair. One farmer was showing off his &#8220;blue ribbon&#8221; dog and proposing to sell it for $100,000. The other farmers were laughing hysterically at the idea of a $100K dog. Dogs don&#8217;t produce income. How could a dog be worth $100K? Then one farmer stepped up and offered to trade two of his $50,000 cats for the $100K dog. The dog owner quickly agreed and bragged to all his friends how he sold his dog for $100K. </p>
<p>Acquisitions that are done as stock swaps are obviously not the same as cash transactions. Public companies often use their stock as trading currency for acquisitions since it has no cash impact on their business. However, stock transactions dilute the value of other shareholders, sometimes significantly. In a rising stock market no one really notices because the steady share price increase masks the dilution. When the stock market turns the problems are exposed&#8230;and magnified.</p>
<p>I wrote a blog about the psychology of acquisitions, and related it to this deal. See <a href="http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2007/05/ill_trade_my_tw.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2007/05/ill_trade_my_tw.html'>http://dondodge...rade_my_tw.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368917</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All will grow stale over time (YouTube and Photobucket) and a newcomer will arrive taking over their traffic.  Check out were CNET&#039;s Webshots is at now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All will grow stale over time (YouTube and Photobucket) and a newcomer will arrive taking over their traffic.  Check out were CNET&#8217;s Webshots is at now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368910</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I&#039;m not sure if you know much finance, but this deal is certainly not a steal.  The biggest factor here is that Photobucket adds almost no incremental visitors to to Myspace.  It almost seems like Murdoch is paying through the nose for making the mistake of letting Photobucket grow this big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I&#8217;m not sure if you know much finance, but this deal is certainly not a steal.  The biggest factor here is that Photobucket adds almost no incremental visitors to to Myspace.  It almost seems like Murdoch is paying through the nose for making the mistake of letting Photobucket grow this big.</p>
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		<title>By: MySpace To Acquire Photobucket &#187; SELaplana</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368535</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace To Acquire Photobucket &#187; SELaplana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 07:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] acquisition has been compared by Techcrunch to the acquisition of Youtube by Google, and wrote this: Did Google overpay for YouTube? Did [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MySpace/Photobucket: User Overlap Is Nearly 100%</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368491</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace/Photobucket: User Overlap Is Nearly 100%</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Photobucket as they did for MySpace. Photobucket is going for $300 million with the earnout (a steal compared to Google/YouTube), and MySpace was acquired for $580 million, back in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Photobucket as they did for MySpace. Photobucket is going for $300 million with the earnout (a steal compared to Google/YouTube), and MySpace was acquired for $580 million, back in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wingthom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368475</link>
		<dc:creator>wingthom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this story. Murdoch adds functionality and reach to his media conglomerate at a reasonable price tag. He needs some audience flow that is independant from GOOG / YHOO / MSFT for the upcoming audience wars. From my point of view it makes sense to integrate those feature sites into social networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this story. Murdoch adds functionality and reach to his media conglomerate at a reasonable price tag. He needs some audience flow that is independant from GOOG / YHOO / MSFT for the upcoming audience wars. From my point of view it makes sense to integrate those feature sites into social networks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368469</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could say they got Photobucket for a steal, but I&#039;ve been to YouTube at least a few hundred times in the past month (not counting the number of YouTube videos I&#039;ve watched embedded on a few dozen sites). I&#039;ve never been to Photobucket&#039;s site. I&#039;m not alone either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could say they got Photobucket for a steal, but I&#8217;ve been to YouTube at least a few hundred times in the past month (not counting the number of YouTube videos I&#8217;ve watched embedded on a few dozen sites). I&#8217;ve never been to Photobucket&#8217;s site. I&#8217;m not alone either.</p>
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		<title>By: jumper</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368450</link>
		<dc:creator>jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think photobucket&#039;s arm was twisted into getting acquired by myspace.  nobody would&#039;ve touched photobucket with a 10 foot pole if its business was largely dependent on myspace.  if a google bought photobucket, myspace can just block photobucket and its value would disappear overnight.  hence, the only logical place for photobucket to go was myspace, which had power over it and therefore was able to lowball them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think photobucket&#8217;s arm was twisted into getting acquired by myspace.  nobody would&#8217;ve touched photobucket with a 10 foot pole if its business was largely dependent on myspace.  if a google bought photobucket, myspace can just block photobucket and its value would disappear overnight.  hence, the only logical place for photobucket to go was myspace, which had power over it and therefore was able to lowball them.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368378</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with ted. YouTube is valuable both as a destination and a cultural phenomenon. 

To see what this is worth, check out a comparison of the google searches for both: http://www.google.com/trends?q=photobucket%2C+youtube&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all

Also, I&#039;m sure growth rate was a major factor. Youtube was founded two years ago. Photobucket took four years to get where it is now.

People count comparison: http://snapshot.compete.com/photobucket.com+youtube.com?metric=uv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with ted. YouTube is valuable both as a destination and a cultural phenomenon. </p>
<p>To see what this is worth, check out a comparison of the google searches for both: <a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=photobucket%2C+youtube&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.google.com/trends?q=photobucket%2C+youtube&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all'>http://www.goog...ll&amp;date=all</a></p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m sure growth rate was a major factor. Youtube was founded two years ago. Photobucket took four years to get where it is now.</p>
<p>People count comparison: <a href="http://snapshot.compete.com/photobucket.com+youtube.com?metric=uv" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://snapshot.compete.com/photobucket.com+youtube.com?metric=uv'>http://snapshot...e.com?metric=uv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368362</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photobucket and Flickr aren&#039;t really competitors.  Photobucket is about image hosting.  Flickr is about photo sharing.  Flickr is a destination site, a community, and even more than anything else an addictive as hell social network.  

Photobucket is not addictive.  It&#039;s not a destination site.  It benefited from a cultural move that found MySpace people using it host mainly pictures and avatars -- and to a new degree video.  Without MySpace and their traffic photobucket was far from compelling.  The image size limitations made it a place where serious photographers would not socialize.  

Photobucket has far more images than Flickr.  More than 5x more.  But with the recently announced integration of Yahoo Photos into Flickr, Flickr will soon get close.  

Flickr&#039;s images ultimately are more meaningful though.  More meaningful because they come with a community and as a destination site.  They are also far more complete in terms of organization (tagging, ranking, interestingness etc.)  This has far more eventual value in the world of search which neither Photobucket nor Flickr have scratched the surface yet with.

If $250 million was the bargain of the year for Fox interactive, then $35 million was the steal of the decade for Yahoo when they bought Flickr.  

The question remains though who will ultimately dominate the world of community photosharing for the rest of the non-English speaking world.  That is a much larger prize than either Photobucket or Flickr today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photobucket and Flickr aren&#8217;t really competitors.  Photobucket is about image hosting.  Flickr is about photo sharing.  Flickr is a destination site, a community, and even more than anything else an addictive as hell social network.  </p>
<p>Photobucket is not addictive.  It&#8217;s not a destination site.  It benefited from a cultural move that found MySpace people using it host mainly pictures and avatars &#8212; and to a new degree video.  Without MySpace and their traffic photobucket was far from compelling.  The image size limitations made it a place where serious photographers would not socialize.  </p>
<p>Photobucket has far more images than Flickr.  More than 5x more.  But with the recently announced integration of Yahoo Photos into Flickr, Flickr will soon get close.  </p>
<p>Flickr&#8217;s images ultimately are more meaningful though.  More meaningful because they come with a community and as a destination site.  They are also far more complete in terms of organization (tagging, ranking, interestingness etc.)  This has far more eventual value in the world of search which neither Photobucket nor Flickr have scratched the surface yet with.</p>
<p>If $250 million was the bargain of the year for Fox interactive, then $35 million was the steal of the decade for Yahoo when they bought Flickr.  </p>
<p>The question remains though who will ultimately dominate the world of community photosharing for the rest of the non-English speaking world.  That is a much larger prize than either Photobucket or Flickr today.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakov</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368329</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, a nice steal!</description>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/photobucket-was-a-steal-v-googleyoutube/comment-page-1/#comment-1368320</link>
		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of all of those, MySpace is the only one that appears to be a steal. 

Bought in 05/2005 for $580 mil, 
in 2006: they had  $200 mil in revenue (per NYT), 
in 2007:       MySpace is now generating in excess of $30 million a month in revenue, with about $24 million in domestic revenue and $6 million internationally. He adds that monthly revenues should more than double over the next 12 months, and “at very high incremental revenue margins.” So in 12 months, he’s saying, MySpace should be doing more than $60 million a month in revenue, for an annual run rate in the neighborhood of $750 million a year.
(per Barron&#039;s Online)

Per FT, MySpace also has a three year $900 mil ad deal in works with Google. 

Combined 2-year revenue would be twice as much as the investment was (not sure what the profit number is). 

Photobucket is being bought at 10 times revenue. 

Youtube was bought at N times revenue. 

If MySpace/News Corp are able to add as many banners to Photobucket as MySpace has, the revenue may go up and pay the investment back faster, but Photobucket&#039;s community may not be as happy and react by gradually switching to other services. 

Still, out of all acquisitions so far,  MySpace is the only one that really &quot;made it&#039; and made financial sense (vs. stratigic, ... be the first/largest in its category, ... and so on)

Good luck to them to integrate Photobucket and make financial sense out of it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of all of those, MySpace is the only one that appears to be a steal. </p>
<p>Bought in 05/2005 for $580 mil,<br />
in 2006: they had  $200 mil in revenue (per NYT),<br />
in 2007:       MySpace is now generating in excess of $30 million a month in revenue, with about $24 million in domestic revenue and $6 million internationally. He adds that monthly revenues should more than double over the next 12 months, and “at very high incremental revenue margins.” So in 12 months, he’s saying, MySpace should be doing more than $60 million a month in revenue, for an annual run rate in the neighborhood of $750 million a year.<br />
(per Barron&#8217;s Online)</p>
<p>Per FT, MySpace also has a three year $900 mil ad deal in works with Google. </p>
<p>Combined 2-year revenue would be twice as much as the investment was (not sure what the profit number is). </p>
<p>Photobucket is being bought at 10 times revenue. </p>
<p>Youtube was bought at N times revenue. </p>
<p>If MySpace/News Corp are able to add as many banners to Photobucket as MySpace has, the revenue may go up and pay the investment back faster, but Photobucket&#8217;s community may not be as happy and react by gradually switching to other services. </p>
<p>Still, out of all acquisitions so far,  MySpace is the only one that really &#8220;made it&#8217; and made financial sense (vs. stratigic, &#8230; be the first/largest in its category, &#8230; and so on)</p>
<p>Good luck to them to integrate Photobucket and make financial sense out of it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: tknoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator>tknoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re@28: Spud

Because the folks at Google are arrogant prima donna&#039;s that&#039;s why. Ask anyone who has had to deal with them including Viacom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Re@28:">Re@28:</a> Spud</p>
<p>Because the folks at Google are arrogant prima donna&#8217;s that&#8217;s why. Ask anyone who has had to deal with them including Viacom.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a steal. Wish I had bought it myself. LOL....... I&#039;m sure the partnership will do extremly well.

Here is a question for you all. How come YouTube is being sued by everyone but MySpace and other sites that host user posted videos don&#039;t seem to attract the same rath of content producers such as Viacom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a steal. Wish I had bought it myself. LOL&#8230;&#8230;. I&#8217;m sure the partnership will do extremly well.</p>
<p>Here is a question for you all. How come YouTube is being sued by everyone but MySpace and other sites that host user posted videos don&#8217;t seem to attract the same rath of content producers such as Viacom?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of these deals come with too high a valuation to be considered actual business deals.  Photobucket got 10X revenues?  Nobody pays that much for a business.  I mean, if a PE company wanted to buy P&amp;G&#039;s fabric care division, would they give them $170Billion for it? That&#039;s crazy even for a great business like P&amp;G fabric care.  This wasn&#039;t even a deal for users - Myspace probably already has a high % of the users on Photobucket.  These are simply real-estate plays.  Photobucket is a well-known and respected property, just as YouTube was the marketleading piracy...I mean user generated content site.  But these multiples are not business valuations - those are based on cash-flow or some other reasonable measure.  MySpace paid for the nicest house on block nobody wants to live on.  The fact that we&#039;re calling it a &quot;steal&quot; confounds me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these deals come with too high a valuation to be considered actual business deals.  Photobucket got 10X revenues?  Nobody pays that much for a business.  I mean, if a PE company wanted to buy P&amp;G&#8217;s fabric care division, would they give them $170Billion for it? That&#8217;s crazy even for a great business like P&amp;G fabric care.  This wasn&#8217;t even a deal for users &#8211; Myspace probably already has a high % of the users on Photobucket.  These are simply real-estate plays.  Photobucket is a well-known and respected property, just as YouTube was the marketleading piracy&#8230;I mean user generated content site.  But these multiples are not business valuations &#8211; those are based on cash-flow or some other reasonable measure.  MySpace paid for the nicest house on block nobody wants to live on.  The fact that we&#8217;re calling it a &#8220;steal&#8221; confounds me.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyWarhol</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyWarhol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo!&#039;s $35M fer Flickr seems like chump change*  I guess they&#039;re paying for the Users but i was always under the impression that Photobucket was just a means fer Users to get their Photos on MySpace??

yeah they shouldda developed a Photo UpLoadr in house fer a coupla thouw*

;PPP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo!&#8217;s $35M fer Flickr seems like chump change*  I guess they&#8217;re paying for the Users but i was always under the impression that Photobucket was just a means fer Users to get their Photos on MySpace??</p>
<p>yeah they shouldda developed a Photo UpLoadr in house fer a coupla thouw*</p>
<p>;PPP</p>
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		<title>By: heri</title>
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		<dc:creator>heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone knows that text </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone knows that text</p>
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