Comments on: Google Fails To Blink http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/ Startup and Technology News Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:51:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: YouTube Tries a Little Harder to Protect Copyright Holders http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1677098 YouTube Tries a Little Harder to Protect Copyright Holders Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:37:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1677098 [...] protection. It’s hard to believe this effort will do much to pacify Viacom, which brought a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against YouTube this past [...] [...] protection. It’s hard to believe this effort will do much to pacify Viacom, which brought a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against YouTube this past [...]

]]> By: LGR Webmaster Blog » Blog Archive » Will a Number Bring Down Digg? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1597264 LGR Webmaster Blog » Blog Archive » Will a Number Bring Down Digg? Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:37:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1597264 [...] of the social media websites is also their Achilles heel. YouTube is facing a huge lawsuit, that according to TechCrunch, Google has decided to let the jury decide. Digg appears to have just rolled over at the first sign [...] [...] of the social media websites is also their Achilles heel. YouTube is facing a huge lawsuit, that according to TechCrunch, Google has decided to let the jury decide. Digg appears to have just rolled over at the first sign [...]

]]> By: GurusBlog » Blog Archive » Youtube y Viacom...disputándose una industria en un juicio http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1425222 GurusBlog » Blog Archive » Youtube y Viacom...disputándose una industria en un juicio Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:28:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1425222 [...] no están claras las implicaciones que puede tener para la industria de la denominada web 2.0 tras la demanda presentada por Viacom contra Youtube pidiendo mil millones de dólares por infringir los derechos de [...] [...] no están claras las implicaciones que puede tener para la industria de la denominada web 2.0 tras la demanda presentada por Viacom contra Youtube pidiendo mil millones de dólares por infringir los derechos de [...]

]]> By: YouTube/Google will see Viacom in court » Notes from UniqueTracks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1370498 YouTube/Google will see Viacom in court » Notes from UniqueTracks Thu, 10 May 2007 03:03:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1370498 [...] story sparked over 80 comments on TechCrunch. One of those comments, by a poster name Raj, frames the issue very [...] [...] story sparked over 80 comments on TechCrunch. One of those comments, by a poster name Raj, frames the issue very [...]

]]> By: letters paralegals http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1368295 letters paralegals Tue, 08 May 2007 02:45:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1368295 paralegals resumes <a href="http://paralegals.beeplog.de" rel="nofollow">paralegals openings</a> paralegals resumes paralegals openings

]]> By: John Bickerton http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1362459 John Bickerton Fri, 04 May 2007 14:48:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1362459 I agree with Safeharbor, this will all come down to the court's interpretation of DMCA and whether YouTube can claim they are just a "service provider". Personally I think they are more than just a service provider. The DMCA was put in place in the late 90s under Clinton. Back then it was just intended to give ISPs some protection from liability if one of their hosted sites uploaded copyrighted content - like say - hacked versions of Microsoft Word. But YouTube is more than a host - it tags all of its content, there are cross-referenced links to similar content. I can view a bootleg copy of a Rolling Stones performance and the site will show me tags for other similar bootleg Stones videos and it will then also offer linked recommendations to view similar bootlegs from Bob Marley for example. In other words, YouTube is actively engaged with its content, its not just sitting there as a mere host. There is a database in place that aggregates the content and offers users its results. At some point in 2005 the folks at YouTube made a decision to allow the uploading of copyrighted material to the site. That decision led to the immense popularity of the site and an eventual $1 billion windfall. Now that decision will have its day in court. I agree with Safeharbor, this will all come down to the court’s interpretation of DMCA and whether YouTube can claim they are just a “service provider”.

Personally I think they are more than just a service provider. The DMCA was put in place in the late 90s under Clinton. Back then it was just intended to give ISPs some protection from liability if one of their hosted sites uploaded copyrighted content - like say - hacked versions of Microsoft Word.

But YouTube is more than a host - it tags all of its content, there are cross-referenced links to similar content. I can view a bootleg copy of a Rolling Stones performance and the site will show me tags for other similar bootleg Stones videos and it will then also offer linked recommendations to view similar bootlegs from Bob Marley for example. In other words, YouTube is actively engaged with its content, its not just sitting there as a mere host. There is a database in place that aggregates the content and offers users its results.

At some point in 2005 the folks at YouTube made a decision to allow the uploading of copyrighted material to the site. That decision led to the immense popularity of the site and an eventual $1 billion windfall. Now that decision will have its day in court.

]]> By: Jacobson Attorneys http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1361668 Jacobson Attorneys Fri, 04 May 2007 05:22:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1361668 <strong>Google Fails To Blink...</strong> TechCrunch has an update on the Google/Viacom lawsuit titled Google Fails To Blink. It seems there won’t be a quick settlement of this case and instead we should see a trial on the issues which will go some way towards either developing or clari... Google Fails To Blink…

TechCrunch has an update on the Google/Viacom lawsuit titled Google Fails To Blink. It seems there won’t be a quick settlement of this case and instead we should see a trial on the issues which will go some way towards either developing or clari…

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1360300 David Mackey Thu, 03 May 2007 15:28:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1360300 I don't think Viacom can win this one. I don’t think Viacom can win this one.

]]> By: Hagurus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1359419 Hagurus Thu, 03 May 2007 01:26:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1359419 I like YouTube, can't Google just share profits with Viacom? I like YouTube, can’t Google just share profits with Viacom?

]]> By: Matt Keegan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1359286 Matt Keegan Wed, 02 May 2007 23:47:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1359286 Google should simply buy out Viacom, take what they want, and sell off the pieces. That'll get the legal eagles out of their hair and they'll turn around and make a profit off of the parts of the company they do not need. Google has the midas touch. Google should simply buy out Viacom, take what they want, and sell off the pieces. That’ll get the legal eagles out of their hair and they’ll turn around and make a profit off of the parts of the company they do not need.

Google has the midas touch.

]]> By: KwangErn Liew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358418 KwangErn Liew Wed, 02 May 2007 16:29:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358418 Y'all know what happens when Google wins this... Y’all know what happens when Google wins this…

]]> By: Saurav http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358165 Saurav Wed, 02 May 2007 11:50:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358165 Is Licensed Arms will be to issued to college going students Is Licensed Arms will be to issued to college going students

]]> By: Mike @ Inside Online Video http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358131 Mike @ Inside Online Video Wed, 02 May 2007 11:04:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358131 "If you can’t earn a living honestly, steal from someone that is." Read the DMCA again, Shaun. YouTube <b>is</b> earning a living honestly -- sometimes <a href="http://www.emergingearth.com/teen-plays-on-youtube-paranoia/" rel="nofollow">too honestly</a>, in fact. “If you can’t earn a living honestly, steal from someone that is.”

Read the DMCA again, Shaun. YouTube is earning a living honestly — sometimes too honestly, in fact.

]]> By: socialham.com » Blog Archive » Internet Drama Jackpot! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358072 socialham.com » Blog Archive » Internet Drama Jackpot! Wed, 02 May 2007 09:30:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358072 [...] That’s when a huge investor backs the company to help with the legal nightmare that is bound to follow. See Also Gootube Vs Viacom. [...] [...] That’s when a huge investor backs the company to help with the legal nightmare that is bound to follow. See Also Gootube Vs Viacom. [...]

]]> By: Hoy es un buen día | hombrelobo, una mente dispersa http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358034 Hoy es un buen día | hombrelobo, una mente dispersa Wed, 02 May 2007 08:51:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1358034 [...] Google no sólo no llega a un acuerdo con Viacom, sino que dice que luchará en los tribunales. Resulta que Viacom, gigante entre gigantes de la televisión tradicional, acusaba a YouTube (ahora parte de Google) de publicar vídeos de forma ilícita y le amenazó con llevarle a los tribunales. La mayoría de las veces, este tipo de acusaciones se resuelven con el pago de dineros por debajo de la mesa, para que se retire la demanda y punto. Pero Google ha dicho que no, que le lleven a los tribunales si quieren, que ellos lucharán. [...] [...] Google no sólo no llega a un acuerdo con Viacom, sino que dice que luchará en los tribunales. Resulta que Viacom, gigante entre gigantes de la televisión tradicional, acusaba a YouTube (ahora parte de Google) de publicar vídeos de forma ilícita y le amenazó con llevarle a los tribunales. La mayoría de las veces, este tipo de acusaciones se resuelven con el pago de dineros por debajo de la mesa, para que se retire la demanda y punto. Pero Google ha dicho que no, que le lleven a los tribunales si quieren, que ellos lucharán. [...]

]]> By: shaun http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357923 shaun Wed, 02 May 2007 07:28:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357923 Changes what? Same old, same old... If you can't earn a living honestly, steal from someone that is. and if you can do it legally --> by suing them ... even better. Changes what? Same old, same old…

If you can’t earn a living honestly, steal from someone that is.

and if you can do it legally –> by suing them … even better.

]]> By: lawrence http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357846 lawrence Wed, 02 May 2007 06:13:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357846 tHIS...changes, everything. tHIS…changes, everything.

]]> By: RaJ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357772 RaJ Wed, 02 May 2007 04:36:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357772 I remeber in one of the interview, Google ceo says - they are going to recruit best legal experts around the world. Its time for google to use those resources. lol www.suggestusability.com I remeber in one of the interview, Google ceo says - they are going to recruit best legal experts around the world. Its time for google to use those resources. lol

http://www.suggestusability.com

]]> By: Ferodynamics http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357717 Ferodynamics Wed, 02 May 2007 03:14:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357717 Sorry Google, YouTube isn't a hosting company. Sorry Google, YouTube isn’t a hosting company.

]]> By: Mike @ Inside Online Video http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357690 Mike @ Inside Online Video Wed, 02 May 2007 02:38:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357690 "...there’s still this sense that Google is the underdog — and that a victory for Google is a victory for the little guy." That's because Google shares. ;) “…there’s still this sense that Google is the underdog — and that a victory for Google is a victory for the little guy.”

That’s because Google shares. ;)

]]> By: Raj http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357567 Raj Tue, 01 May 2007 23:40:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357567 Ultimately, the even bigger issue that may arise from the ViaGoog lawsuit is whether DMCA may need to be re-visited to better reflect appropriate use of copyrighted material. The way it is written now, DMCA is being interpreted quite loosely by firms such as Google. DMCA was written to protect copyrighted material from inappropriate use but it seems in reality that firms which interpret it loosely are using it as a protection in a sense to get away with leveraging unconsented content for profit without properly compensating content owners for the material being used. The people who own/create content tend to get pissed when others utilize their content without consent. Google has gone one step further by monetizing this material by displaying ads next to the video content in question. It will come down to which firm's high priced lawyers can make a better case about DMCA compliance/non-compliance. I'm pretty sure when the lawmakers wrote DMCA they didn't envision how loosely some firms would be in interpreting it. I wouldn't be surprised if lawmakers get pressured by more and more big media firms to re-visit DMCA's language in the future. I'm getting a sense that many in the web 2.0 world will be rooting for Google partly because what happens to Google will likely signal how other web 2.0 business models may be impacted. Google should do the right thing. They should start inking ad revenue share deals for the content they monetize. This will be interesting going forward. Ultimately, the even bigger issue that may arise from the ViaGoog lawsuit is whether DMCA may need to be re-visited to better reflect appropriate use of copyrighted material. The way it is written now, DMCA is being interpreted quite loosely by firms such as Google. DMCA was written to protect copyrighted material from inappropriate use but it seems in reality that firms which interpret it loosely are using it as a protection in a sense to get away with leveraging unconsented content for profit without properly compensating content owners for the material being used.

The people who own/create content tend to get pissed when others utilize their content without consent. Google has gone one step further by monetizing this material by displaying ads next to the video content in question. It will come down to which firm’s high priced lawyers can make a better case about DMCA compliance/non-compliance.

I’m pretty sure when the lawmakers wrote DMCA they didn’t envision how loosely some firms would be in interpreting it. I wouldn’t be surprised if lawmakers get pressured by more and more big media firms to re-visit DMCA’s language in the future. I’m getting a sense that many in the web 2.0 world will be rooting for Google partly because what happens to Google will likely signal how other web 2.0 business models may be impacted.

Google should do the right thing. They should start inking ad revenue share deals for the content they monetize.

This will be interesting going forward.

]]> By: Search Engine Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357562 Search Engine Blog Tue, 01 May 2007 23:31:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357562 <strong>Google hits back at Viacom over YouTube - Taking it to a jury...</strong> Via TechCrunch: Google refused to back down today, telling Viacom it will settle the YouTube lawsuit in front of a jury instead of settling.  YouTube’s entire business model is at stake, so it seems this was the only decision Google was left wit... Google hits back at Viacom over YouTube - Taking it to a jury…

Via TechCrunch: Google refused to back down today, telling Viacom it will settle the YouTube lawsuit in front of a jury instead of settling.  YouTube’s entire business model is at stake, so it seems this was the only decision Google was left wit…

]]> By: Wes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357556 Wes Tue, 01 May 2007 23:22:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357556 Google seem so confident and so lets wait and see what the outcome will be. Google seem so confident and so lets wait and see what the outcome will be.

]]> By: co2o2photosynthesis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357491 co2o2photosynthesis Tue, 01 May 2007 21:39:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357491 Google good co2o2photosynthes co2o2photosynthesis co2o2photosynthesis co2o2photosynthesis Google good

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]]> By: Intense Web Media http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357485 Intense Web Media Tue, 01 May 2007 21:20:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/01/google-fails-to-blink/#comment-1357485 <strong>Google’s Response to Viacom’s Lawsuit...</strong> “In a response filed in federal court in New York late Monday, Google said that YouTube respects the importance of copyrights and goes above and beyond what is required under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which gives Web hosts protection ... Google’s Response to Viacom’s Lawsuit…

“In a response filed in federal court in New York late Monday, Google said that YouTube respects the importance of copyrights and goes above and beyond what is required under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which gives Web hosts protection …

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