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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1357488</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 21:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drama 2.0: &quot; It would be interesting to find out if Nature has authorized this, especially since Jared Friedman, apparently one of the creators of Scribd, posted the document. If I remember correctly, one of the facts noted in the Napster lawsuit was that some of the Napster management had “illegal” MP3s on their computers (obstensibly downloaded from the Napster service).&quot;

Trip Adler (another creator) also posted content from PNAS, another journal.  My guess is that Friedman and Adler might have had permission to  download the content through their academic institution (Harvard???) which spends a lot of money to have access to journal content, but that they don&#039;t have permission to redistribute the content on a public website.  I&#039;m pretty sure Nature did not authorize the posting of the document (why would they?)

While PNAS allows authors to redistribute content on their own personal websites, and the PNAS article in question is authored by John Adler III, it&#039;s not at all clear that Trip Adler can post it to a public website.

I&#039;m waiting to see what happens, especially given the struggle in the publishing industry over open access and the fact that they have a lot to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drama 2.0: &#8221; It would be interesting to find out if Nature has authorized this, especially since Jared Friedman, apparently one of the creators of Scribd, posted the document. If I remember correctly, one of the facts noted in the Napster lawsuit was that some of the Napster management had “illegal” MP3s on their computers (obstensibly downloaded from the Napster service).&#8221;</p>
<p>Trip Adler (another creator) also posted content from PNAS, another journal.  My guess is that Friedman and Adler might have had permission to  download the content through their academic institution (Harvard???) which spends a lot of money to have access to journal content, but that they don&#8217;t have permission to redistribute the content on a public website.  I&#8217;m pretty sure Nature did not authorize the posting of the document (why would they?)</p>
<p>While PNAS allows authors to redistribute content on their own personal websites, and the PNAS article in question is authored by John Adler III, it&#8217;s not at all clear that Trip Adler can post it to a public website.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting to see what happens, especially given the struggle in the publishing industry over open access and the fact that they have a lot to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Glyman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1354681</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Glyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised to see so much negativity around Scribd&#039;s quick success. Great news for the Scribd team. Good luck guys!</description>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jason 

You&#039;ve hit on another issue.  The arrogance that engineers are the only people needed to make a successful business.  I&#039;ve started a new blog to address some of these issues.  Let me know your thoughts.

I don&#039;t know if that will minimize the list of Y-Bombs because the fundamental problem is that Y-Combinator is churning out products, not businesses.  Maybe the suits can fix that, but I doubt Paul Graham will give anyone else much consideration.  His essays are quite closed minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jason </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit on another issue.  The arrogance that engineers are the only people needed to make a successful business.  I&#8217;ve started a new blog to address some of these issues.  Let me know your thoughts.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that will minimize the list of Y-Bombs because the fundamental problem is that Y-Combinator is churning out products, not businesses.  Maybe the suits can fix that, but I doubt Paul Graham will give anyone else much consideration.  His essays are quite closed minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352742</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the real driver of sites like youtube, digg etc... was the userbase and the content. In my 5 minute viewing of scribd... the content I saw was pictures people put into word documents, email forwards, and an apple instruction manual. Hardly good content. The only way I can see it getting better is if people put illegal content up there - books, ebooks etc... otherwise, what&#039;s the point of scribd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the real driver of sites like youtube, digg etc&#8230; was the userbase and the content. In my 5 minute viewing of scribd&#8230; the content I saw was pictures people put into word documents, email forwards, and an apple instruction manual. Hardly good content. The only way I can see it getting better is if people put illegal content up there &#8211; books, ebooks etc&#8230; otherwise, what&#8217;s the point of scribd?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve B</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352696</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that there is many sites doing the same thing, may be some of them will die sooner or later, but the best one I think is &lt;a href=&quot;http://pytagor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pytagor.com&lt;/a&gt; !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that there is many sites doing the same thing, may be some of them will die sooner or later, but the best one I think is <a href="http://pytagor.com" rel="nofollow">Pytagor.com</a> !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pallet Jack: I definitely agree with you. YC gets you in the door and some good pub here and other places. It&#039;s really not about the funding--I figure most of these founders have comparable balances to the VC fundage available on their credit cards.

But...

Jay 2.0: You&#039;re right--the YC juice only goes so far. Reddit is the only one of their projects worth mention as a &quot;success&quot;.  The rest are bombs or eeking out a meager existence.

This might be a bit of a threadjack,  but I believe the problem with YC, or more specifically PG, is that they (he) thinks that developers are capable of running a successful business simply because they can code and have good ideas about what to code. My experience is that assumption is often not the case--I know a lot of top-notch developers with great ideas who haven&#039;t a clue about marketing or business strategy. Heck,  Even Larry and Sergey needed a CEO. 

Once PG realizes that he needs to start seeking out those entrepeneurs who actually know how to put the YC juice to good use, that list of &quot;Y-bombs&quot; is going to be minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pallet Jack: I definitely agree with you. YC gets you in the door and some good pub here and other places. It&#8217;s really not about the funding&#8211;I figure most of these founders have comparable balances to the VC fundage available on their credit cards.</p>
<p>But&#8230;</p>
<p>Jay 2.0: You&#8217;re right&#8211;the YC juice only goes so far. Reddit is the only one of their projects worth mention as a &#8220;success&#8221;.  The rest are bombs or eeking out a meager existence.</p>
<p>This might be a bit of a threadjack,  but I believe the problem with YC, or more specifically PG, is that they (he) thinks that developers are capable of running a successful business simply because they can code and have good ideas about what to code. My experience is that assumption is often not the case&#8211;I know a lot of top-notch developers with great ideas who haven&#8217;t a clue about marketing or business strategy. Heck,  Even Larry and Sergey needed a CEO. </p>
<p>Once PG realizes that he needs to start seeking out those entrepeneurs who actually know how to put the YC juice to good use, that list of &#8220;Y-bombs&#8221; is going to be minimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Marques</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352408</link>
		<dc:creator>Marques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the posters who are predicting a web 2.0 bubble.  I am shocked and amazed at all the VC funding these startups are getting.  Can anyone tell me of a 2.0 site that makes a healthy profit?  Do investors really think a site running a few ads will make them rich?  Even if the site is getting crazy traffic, most people that I know (both IT and non) ignore ads.  

Google has encountered issues with advertiser when it comes to click though rate and those who actual purchase something (product/service).

Are companies like Digg, Flickr, Youtube, Facebook and PhotoBucket really making a healthy profit???

Or is everyone expecting to get bought out and take their google/yahoo/ebay check to the bank?

I have been working on a new web service which should be ready by June (Hint it has to do with video, but is not a youtube clone).  I am concern which all the money that is being toward around at services which are either crappy, poorly designed or just another clone.  What happen to creativity and quality???  OK it looks like I am ranting now.  All and all it is going to be hard for those who are working on services which could give a benefit/impact to the web a hard time to get the exposure and opportunity they deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the posters who are predicting a web 2.0 bubble.  I am shocked and amazed at all the VC funding these startups are getting.  Can anyone tell me of a 2.0 site that makes a healthy profit?  Do investors really think a site running a few ads will make them rich?  Even if the site is getting crazy traffic, most people that I know (both IT and non) ignore ads.  </p>
<p>Google has encountered issues with advertiser when it comes to click though rate and those who actual purchase something (product/service).</p>
<p>Are companies like Digg, Flickr, Youtube, Facebook and PhotoBucket really making a healthy profit???</p>
<p>Or is everyone expecting to get bought out and take their google/yahoo/ebay check to the bank?</p>
<p>I have been working on a new web service which should be ready by June (Hint it has to do with video, but is not a youtube clone).  I am concern which all the money that is being toward around at services which are either crappy, poorly designed or just another clone.  What happen to creativity and quality???  OK it looks like I am ranting now.  All and all it is going to be hard for those who are working on services which could give a benefit/impact to the web a hard time to get the exposure and opportunity they deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y-Bombs:

1. Kiko - sold on eBay after realizing Google was going to destroy them (founders now run Justin.tv - traffic has slipped significantly and press has died down with no idea of how to make money, sponsors find it delivers little value)

2. TextPayMe - still in beta since 2005?  No traction. Site looks like it was built for $500 in Bangalore.  Copyright doesn&#039;t even extend till 2007?  Is it defunct?

3. ClickFacts - domain belongs to some other company, seems defunct.  Again, same issue with copyrights as above.

4. WuFoo - still around, okay traffic, but what&#039;s the revenue model?  Who would even buy this?  It sounds like a cross between a bad rapper and a new Southeast Asian fusion food.

5. YouOS - still in alpha, copyright still not updated for 2007.  I guess Y-Combinator companies don&#039;t need intellectual property since ones like Scribd rip it off blatantly with even the foundres posting copyrighted materials.  There can&#039;t be Safe Harbor protections for that kind of foolishness.

6. Flipt - no site, dead. The name is the goal of Y-Combinator. 

7. Flagr - traffic below the average suburban mother&#039;s blog.  No real value proposition and no revenue model.

8. AudioBeta - strangely enough.... still in beta.  

9. Snipshot - mildly useful photo editing tool with low traffic to site.  Easy to replicate, on revenue model, no exit opportunities.

So 9 bombs, 1 exit, and 1 potential exit (Inkling).  Sounds like a regular VC portfolio to me except this one is way over-hyped and this is last year&#039;s cohort.  

Even Borat wouldn&#039;t call this &quot;great success!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y-Bombs:</p>
<p>1. Kiko &#8211; sold on eBay after realizing Google was going to destroy them (founders now run Justin.tv &#8211; traffic has slipped significantly and press has died down with no idea of how to make money, sponsors find it delivers little value)</p>
<p>2. TextPayMe &#8211; still in beta since 2005?  No traction. Site looks like it was built for $500 in Bangalore.  Copyright doesn&#8217;t even extend till 2007?  Is it defunct?</p>
<p>3. ClickFacts &#8211; domain belongs to some other company, seems defunct.  Again, same issue with copyrights as above.</p>
<p>4. WuFoo &#8211; still around, okay traffic, but what&#8217;s the revenue model?  Who would even buy this?  It sounds like a cross between a bad rapper and a new Southeast Asian fusion food.</p>
<p>5. YouOS &#8211; still in alpha, copyright still not updated for 2007.  I guess Y-Combinator companies don&#8217;t need intellectual property since ones like Scribd rip it off blatantly with even the foundres posting copyrighted materials.  There can&#8217;t be Safe Harbor protections for that kind of foolishness.</p>
<p>6. Flipt &#8211; no site, dead. The name is the goal of Y-Combinator. </p>
<p>7. Flagr &#8211; traffic below the average suburban mother&#8217;s blog.  No real value proposition and no revenue model.</p>
<p>8. AudioBeta &#8211; strangely enough&#8230;. still in beta.  </p>
<p>9. Snipshot &#8211; mildly useful photo editing tool with low traffic to site.  Easy to replicate, on revenue model, no exit opportunities.</p>
<p>So 9 bombs, 1 exit, and 1 potential exit (Inkling).  Sounds like a regular VC portfolio to me except this one is way over-hyped and this is last year&#8217;s cohort.  </p>
<p>Even Borat wouldn&#8217;t call this &#8220;great success!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1352331</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which ones are the Y-Bombs? List them all please.</description>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351985</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Drama 2.0 - Thank goodness you exist.  

@ arn -  Ask enough people in the Valley and outside and they will tell you that a lot of people have negative associations with Y-Combinator.  There is a ton of talk of &quot;Y-Bombs&quot;.  Pay a bit more attention and you&#039;ll realize that hype isn&#039;t always enough.  It got Reddit somewhere but it&#039;s not working for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Drama 2.0 &#8211; Thank goodness you exist.  </p>
<p>@ arn &#8211;  Ask enough people in the Valley and outside and they will tell you that a lot of people have negative associations with Y-Combinator.  There is a ton of talk of &#8220;Y-Bombs&#8221;.  Pay a bit more attention and you&#8217;ll realize that hype isn&#8217;t always enough.  It got Reddit somewhere but it&#8217;s not working for others.</p>
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		<title>By: MrVegiita</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351971</link>
		<dc:creator>MrVegiita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$10 million won&#039;t cover the rumored copyright lawsuits that are already in the pipes. $100 million, may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$10 million won&#8217;t cover the rumored copyright lawsuits that are already in the pipes. $100 million, may be.</p>
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		<title>By: arn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351934</link>
		<dc:creator>arn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matthew

Obviously we&#039;ll never know if they would have attracted VC funding or gotten this high valuation if they had gone on their own.

But you can&#039;t discount the publicity that this site got from being a ycombinator site. Whether you like it or not, ycombinator carries a lot of mindshare on this blog and others like it.   There is some value to that, and it&#039;s more than $0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matthew</p>
<p>Obviously we&#8217;ll never know if they would have attracted VC funding or gotten this high valuation if they had gone on their own.</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t discount the publicity that this site got from being a ycombinator site. Whether you like it or not, ycombinator carries a lot of mindshare on this blog and others like it.   There is some value to that, and it&#8217;s more than $0.</p>
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		<title>By: How on earth</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351836</link>
		<dc:creator>How on earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.  Their site claims: Scribd docs have been viewed 6,516,542 times.  6.5m views is hardly worth the valuation they are getting.</description>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351834</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is true, it&#039;s certainly the latest sign of Bubble 2.0. I don&#039;t care if Scribd is &quot;rocking along&quot; - $10+ million in true business value is almost never created in a couple of months and it hasn&#039;t been here.

Scribd might be creating some buzz in the blog world and growth in usage might be impressive, but when it comes to determining whether or not this &quot;company&quot; has become a $10+ million asset in under two months, I think you only need to ask three questions:

1. How much money has been made and what is the business model? I doubt that this has generated any revenue of note. It appears that you can have documents on Scribd printed using a service called Print(fu), and I&#039;m sure Scribd gets a commission on this. It&#039;s a smart way to make some money, but ironically will help lay the groundwork for an infringement lawsuit. I also suspect that the Web 2.0 favorite business model (advertising) is also in the works. The proposition: imagine being able to display advertisting that is relevant to the content within a document! What a brilliant idea. 

2. What&#039;s been done to address the significant copyright issues that exist? Scribd obviously knows about them as TechCrunch reported that the law firm that represents YouTube was retained by the company. When I loaded the Scribd homepage just now, an article from Nature magazine was the featured document. It would be interesting to find out if Nature has authorized this, especially since Jared Friedman, apparently one of the creators of Scribd, posted the document. If I remember correctly, one of the facts noted in the Napster lawsuit was that some of the Napster management had &quot;illegal&quot; MP3s on their computers (obstensibly downloaded from the Napster service).

3. Is there anything truly proprietary or defensible about the Scribd technology? Given the limited resources it was built on, the answer is apparently no.

So let&#039;s break down what Scribd is: a fairly simple online document respository where anybody can upload any document (regardless of whether or not the uploader owns the rights to that document) and where that content can be searched for and viewed within a web browser. Revenue is generated by allowing users to print documents they find on the service (apparently regardless of whether the copyright holder has authorized it) and will also be generated through advertising.

What has Scribd accomplished in under two months? It&#039;s launched a service that apparently has nice growth in usage. But let&#039;s be honest: that really isn&#039;t saying much because it&#039;s not incredibly challenging to do when you create a service where protecting the rights of copyright holders is not the priority and content that might otherwise have to be paid for is available for free.

What hasn&#039;t Scribd accomplished? It almost certainly hasn&#039;t developed a viable &quot;business.&quot; I would be amazed if the revenues generated provided any justification for a $10+ million valuation at this stage of the game.

At the end of the day, any investor has to ask himself whether he wants to invest in hype or a real business. While Silicon Valley venture capitalists are typically investing in technology-related businesses only and the risk of investing in companies before a real business model has been validated often creates the greatest upside potential, some perspective can&#039;t hurt. There are a significant number of very solid businesses in numerous industries with proven track records that deliver consistent cashflow and growth which would not be valued at $10+ million. Maybe they don&#039;t have the potential to become the &quot;YouTube of documents&quot; and get acquired by Google (ha!) but I think any sane investor has to question the wisdom of placing a $10+ million valuation on something so young when the true business potential is questionable, the company has little to no defensible technology and is likely to become a legal target. If this is one of the hottest things out there in the Web 2.0 space and is worth $10 million to venture capitalists, I don&#039;t see how it bodes well for Web 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is true, it&#8217;s certainly the latest sign of Bubble 2.0. I don&#8217;t care if Scribd is &#8220;rocking along&#8221; &#8211; $10+ million in true business value is almost never created in a couple of months and it hasn&#8217;t been here.</p>
<p>Scribd might be creating some buzz in the blog world and growth in usage might be impressive, but when it comes to determining whether or not this &#8220;company&#8221; has become a $10+ million asset in under two months, I think you only need to ask three questions:</p>
<p>1. How much money has been made and what is the business model? I doubt that this has generated any revenue of note. It appears that you can have documents on Scribd printed using a service called Print(fu), and I&#8217;m sure Scribd gets a commission on this. It&#8217;s a smart way to make some money, but ironically will help lay the groundwork for an infringement lawsuit. I also suspect that the Web 2.0 favorite business model (advertising) is also in the works. The proposition: imagine being able to display advertisting that is relevant to the content within a document! What a brilliant idea. </p>
<p>2. What&#8217;s been done to address the significant copyright issues that exist? Scribd obviously knows about them as TechCrunch reported that the law firm that represents YouTube was retained by the company. When I loaded the Scribd homepage just now, an article from Nature magazine was the featured document. It would be interesting to find out if Nature has authorized this, especially since Jared Friedman, apparently one of the creators of Scribd, posted the document. If I remember correctly, one of the facts noted in the Napster lawsuit was that some of the Napster management had &#8220;illegal&#8221; MP3s on their computers (obstensibly downloaded from the Napster service).</p>
<p>3. Is there anything truly proprietary or defensible about the Scribd technology? Given the limited resources it was built on, the answer is apparently no.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s break down what Scribd is: a fairly simple online document respository where anybody can upload any document (regardless of whether or not the uploader owns the rights to that document) and where that content can be searched for and viewed within a web browser. Revenue is generated by allowing users to print documents they find on the service (apparently regardless of whether the copyright holder has authorized it) and will also be generated through advertising.</p>
<p>What has Scribd accomplished in under two months? It&#8217;s launched a service that apparently has nice growth in usage. But let&#8217;s be honest: that really isn&#8217;t saying much because it&#8217;s not incredibly challenging to do when you create a service where protecting the rights of copyright holders is not the priority and content that might otherwise have to be paid for is available for free.</p>
<p>What hasn&#8217;t Scribd accomplished? It almost certainly hasn&#8217;t developed a viable &#8220;business.&#8221; I would be amazed if the revenues generated provided any justification for a $10+ million valuation at this stage of the game.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, any investor has to ask himself whether he wants to invest in hype or a real business. While Silicon Valley venture capitalists are typically investing in technology-related businesses only and the risk of investing in companies before a real business model has been validated often creates the greatest upside potential, some perspective can&#8217;t hurt. There are a significant number of very solid businesses in numerous industries with proven track records that deliver consistent cashflow and growth which would not be valued at $10+ million. Maybe they don&#8217;t have the potential to become the &#8220;YouTube of documents&#8221; and get acquired by Google (ha!) but I think any sane investor has to question the wisdom of placing a $10+ million valuation on something so young when the true business potential is questionable, the company has little to no defensible technology and is likely to become a legal target. If this is one of the hottest things out there in the Web 2.0 space and is worth $10 million to venture capitalists, I don&#8217;t see how it bodes well for Web 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: kamal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351822</link>
		<dc:creator>kamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carmen,

That&#039;s the same as asking why people chose to upload videos to youtube rather than Google Videos (before the GooTube days).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmen,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the same as asking why people chose to upload videos to youtube rather than Google Videos (before the GooTube days).</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351811</link>
		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would people put stuff on scribd instead of a pub google-documents page? theyre so sure that they are going to be in business in 3 years and the document will still be there - and they dont want good search?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would people put stuff on scribd instead of a pub google-documents page? theyre so sure that they are going to be in business in 3 years and the document will still be there &#8211; and they dont want good search?</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351809</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sorry to post again, but i get upset every time i hear:

&quot;Y combinator is about the connections you make; not the money they give you.&quot;

this is a vc sales pitch, folks. don&#039;t believe the hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry to post again, but i get upset every time i hear:</p>
<p>&#8220;Y combinator is about the connections you make; not the money they give you.&#8221;</p>
<p>this is a vc sales pitch, folks. don&#8217;t believe the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351797</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, check out Docufarm.
It allows you to view &lt;b&gt;existing&lt;/b&gt; online documents: pdf, doc, ppt, ps.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docufarm.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.docufarm.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, check out Docufarm.<br />
It allows you to view <b>existing</b> online documents: pdf, doc, ppt, ps.<br />
<a href="http://www.docufarm.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.docufarm.com'>http://www.docufarm.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351779</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@arn &amp; @pallet jack:

you guys seem to think that scribd would never have attracted vc funding or reached this high valuation without the help of y combinator. what i&#039;m saying is that they could have found the same help from somebody else for a smaller slice of the pie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@arn &amp; @pallet jack:</p>
<p>you guys seem to think that scribd would never have attracted vc funding or reached this high valuation without the help of y combinator. what i&#8217;m saying is that they could have found the same help from somebody else for a smaller slice of the pie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalendae - it&#039;s an app, it&#039;s not a business.  You are living in the echo sphere.  Since when is popping up on TechCrunch twice considered any sign of validation?  Where is the genius technology?  Where is the money?  

Answer my last question and I shall bow down to thee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalendae &#8211; it&#8217;s an app, it&#8217;s not a business.  You are living in the echo sphere.  Since when is popping up on TechCrunch twice considered any sign of validation?  Where is the genius technology?  Where is the money?  </p>
<p>Answer my last question and I shall bow down to thee.</p>
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		<title>By: kalendae</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351734</link>
		<dc:creator>kalendae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay I think you are really missing the big picture here.  If scribd was just a pdf glorifying site, then I&#039;d say judging from the launch of scribd, pdf glorifying has just gotten validated.  But it did not, because thats not what it is about.  What is really happening is that the act of publishing on the web just got easier and more attractive.  When blogs came out I&#039;m sure people said, why blogs? you can already host web pages for free even.  Well guess what? the barrier to entry just got lowered again and also in a pretty web2.0 viral kind of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay I think you are really missing the big picture here.  If scribd was just a pdf glorifying site, then I&#8217;d say judging from the launch of scribd, pdf glorifying has just gotten validated.  But it did not, because thats not what it is about.  What is really happening is that the act of publishing on the web just got easier and more attractive.  When blogs came out I&#8217;m sure people said, why blogs? you can already host web pages for free even.  Well guess what? the barrier to entry just got lowered again and also in a pretty web2.0 viral kind of way.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351732</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fpos, what an fpos. A repository for documents, har har....a freaking highschool intern could do this. Wtf, web 2.0 bubble is clearly evident here. Where is the realtiy here. Oh, we are THE YOUTUBE of documents...yeah, right. I would rather look at funny videos all day long, chick in bikinis, idiots smashing their heads....this has zero traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fpos, what an fpos. A repository for documents, har har&#8230;.a freaking highschool intern could do this. Wtf, web 2.0 bubble is clearly evident here. Where is the realtiy here. Oh, we are THE YOUTUBE of documents&#8230;yeah, right. I would rather look at funny videos all day long, chick in bikinis, idiots smashing their heads&#8230;.this has zero traction.</p>
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		<title>By: chandrab</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351716</link>
		<dc:creator>chandrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never have come up with ideas like YouTube or Scribd, because I&#039;d be so afraid to get sued out of existance by copyright holders.  Scribd has a ton of copyright content, none of which is deleted quickly...why should they it drives traffic.  Doesn&#039;t anyone respect intellectual property anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never have come up with ideas like YouTube or Scribd, because I&#8217;d be so afraid to get sued out of existance by copyright holders.  Scribd has a ton of copyright content, none of which is deleted quickly&#8230;why should they it drives traffic.  Doesn&#8217;t anyone respect intellectual property anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Yeh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351684</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Yeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the premoney valuation was actually $20 million.  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the premoney valuation was actually $20 million.  Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/25/scribd-rocking-along-rumored-financing/comment-page-1/#comment-1351646</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jim

You sound really sophisticated.  Did you try to counter any of my points?  No.  Anyone can make ad hominem attacks.  That&#039;s easy.   I&#039;m happy to eat crow if you can refute my points.  Prove me wrong but please grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jim</p>
<p>You sound really sophisticated.  Did you try to counter any of my points?  No.  Anyone can make ad hominem attacks.  That&#8217;s easy.   I&#8217;m happy to eat crow if you can refute my points.  Prove me wrong but please grow up.</p>
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