This is interesting because everyone wants to make money, but are people willing to give up their morals to start a porn site?

I couldnt.

@#1

You may think porn is morally wrong, But that doesn’t mean everyone does..
It’s just sex, And guess what, We all do it (some more than others)

No, Josh, people are willing to give up your morals in order to make money. Fortunately you don’t have to and no on e can make you.

But to the people running and the people viewing the site there may very well be no moral issue at all. They likely do not have a problem with sex or the portrayal of it in video.

I don’t use PornoTube at all, and I doubt I’ll be on ScrewTube. Not that I’m offended by the content, I’m offended by the quality. Somebody needs something better than 320×240 in Flash, let’s get real here.

Yeah, given the subject, I agree, *flesh* is better than *flash*

‘the site is nothing more than an innoffensive landing page and an email submission form.”

Well then why would you review it?

Also, check out xtube.com — similar to Pornotube . This market is quickly becoming saturated.

“This market is quickly becoming saturated.”

..and like all industries, on-line and off, the cream will rise to the top.

Best of luck to Screwtube.

I’m curious who’s hosting them, and who’s behind the site.

Haha.. Mike with so much going on today, all you found was screwtube.

I guess you know exactly what sells

@Josh .. yes
eroshare.com - and we also support videos since a while now

Slow day?

mike was looking for some net action….I guess let us know mike just between us and your 100,000 viewers????

@Kewtr “Somebody needs something better than 320×240 in Flash, let’s get real here.”

Thats the point of those sites.. you get the guys horny enough so they dont think long about pulling out their credit-card and purchasing a membershop at a real porn site or else..

Great, that’s all we need is another x rated video site. Let’s just add more crap do already “disfunctional society.” I mean, does anyone realize that nothing like Columbine or the VT massacre happens outside the U.S.? But now we have another site that embraces material that would otherwise get blocked by a community that understands the negative consequences of allowing an immature audience to view horrific content. At what cost are we willing to stretch the “freedom of speech” loophole?

Weather clone and PornTube clone, hours apart.

WOW!

Quote Brian Juris: ” I mean, does anyone realize that nothing like Columbine or the VT massacre happens outside the U.S.?”

Yeah, just things like 200 people dead in 24 hours. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/.....index.html

How surprising…and disappointing, Michael…so many worthwhile young companies pitching you for a mention on your home page…and you actually give up some of your valuable space to another porography site/company…and a non-operating one at that?

Really?

Would you do the same if someone had set up a GodTube or a MoralTube?

Hopefully (”all your data are belong to us”) Google will get those C&D’s out to these ‘Tube sites soon.

Its not groundbreaking….. But its interesting to see that the X industry is usually the first to embrace new technology. The biggest draw here is that people will want to view it at least once out of curiosity. There is no promise of any staying power but it doesn’t matter, (the money earned can be funneled into something with a little more heart).

Think about it. Its a better idea than waiting in line for venture capital. Sex Sells as they say and venture capitalists aren’t exactly handing out money as easily as they did in the dot com era, (at least not in Michigan).

It’s not porn that’s making kids do these things…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....ommissions

Mike,

Why didn’t you put “WARNING:” information on pornotube.com?

Some people here do find it very offensive.

@13 Brian - if you think that sites like this or even worse sites have as consequences tragedies like VT and Colorado, then you are part of the problem and not the solution. These sites are available almost worldwide and get a boat load of traffic wherever they are. I can not begin to fathom what is so different in the US that things like this happens, or the kidnapping of children for G-D knows what, or mass murderers, etc. The fact is that these horrible things happen everywhere, but in the US the relative per capita incidents is way out of proportion to the rest of the world.

Fundamentalism is bad in any of its forms.

Check out this site - http://www.YouPorn.com

It is massive - and im not talking about the men on it either haha

Timothy Bryce@#5

“Well then why would you review it?”

Because it will probably have explosive growth (like other “tube” sites), and TC is the leader in covering Web technology because it gets the stories of sites out early. Great job, Mike.

@Jerome

Pornotube got big because it was something new and that got it a lot of attention. ScrewTube isn’t going to get much traction now that there are dozens of clones and third party software you can buy to start your own.

Covering the phenomenon might have been a worthwhile post, but just covering this clone isn’t.

@Mike D,

ScrewTube won’t get much traction? I don’t know, I think it has a rather fiesty name, and no shortage of content.

Hi, everyone….

I remember creating my first proximity search engine. I like to give warning to TC users…

Before you go to free porngraphic site. There is security problem… You should know about web beacons. They send massive email spam.

This hurts large & small business. If you are highest pay boss and reading massive junk mails… Make sure you fired employees who surf porn site.
You will miss some important meetings. And be careful with your company’s money.

http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal.....eting.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3671

my buddy worked as a porn producer for 7 years. he said it quite succinctly:

“porn messes women up”

yeah, what the hell? you write this up pre-launch but no hitwise/experian?

wait, i figured it out - arrington is a shadow investor

morals or not; websites like pornotube.com and youporn.com have very large and “sticky” communities. - they are the 2nd and 3rd largest adult entertainment websites. they have (far) more traffic than the wsj.com or ft.com.
whether there is space for another will be decided by the consumer.

Another one already on the market and doing real well:

http://www.youporn.com/

Nice domain name. Cute and funny!

I started a site a year back called IndustryEleven…… little stale now, but its basically a clean look at the adult industry — adult entertainment isn’t all sleazy, its an entertainment medium just like any other and one that is becoming much more mainstream in todays society.

@Dave

Anyone who says ‘porn is just sex’ as someone did above perhaps doesn’t know porn. It seems obvious to me that what you say is correct.

Sites like these I stay away from. They tend to have lots of dudes uploading videos and pictures of their private parts. If you’re into that, then that’s fine. If not, you’re better off going to a regular porn site.

I like sex too.

Quote Brian Juris: ”I mean, does anyone realize that nothing like Columbine or the VT massacre happens outside the U.S.?”

Wow, I don’t know which world are you living in, but it ain’t this one!

check this out as well: http://www.shufuni.com
one of the major sites for porn like youtube.

i think its interesting that after photography was discovered in the 1800’s some of the earliest images were pornographic. Its (Porn) as old as civilization, so im not 100% sure why we’re still talking about it

The truth is, and mike wont tell you this himself, but when Mike did the TechCrunch article about porntube, his stats went wild. If you know how many people found TC because they were searching google for porntube and found the TC article instead you wouldn’t question mikes keenness to cover any other similar site.

for about 2 months nearly 1 in 10 referrals from google to TC was for people searching for porntube.

even now there is still much mention in the TC stats of the porntube article

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=st.....1&v=81

So next time you question why an article has appeared on TC, consider the traffic it could generate for TC… and if your looking to get covered on TC ask yourself how valuable an article about you would be to TC in gaining new readers.

Because that is where the real motivation is, and much more than many would give credit it for…

In fact TC is 3rd spot on google for pornotube

http://www.google.co.uk/search.....0&sa=N

Self interest speaks volumes..

A “review” of yet another YouTube clone, only one that’s not actually online. I wonder who Michael had lunch with today then.

Crap like this and the blatant go2web20/Orli Yakuel/webtech back scratching going on, as they say; I’m outta here..

Sorry Michael ..

great point startupcrunch - by posting now, mike gets an immediate first page (probably first) listing in the engines - and when the site goes live and everyone searches for it - he will reap even bigger search rewards traffic.

“I mean, does anyone realize that nothing like Columbine or the VT massacre happens outside the U.S.?”

Ah, I just love real-time satire.

I agree -

Weather clone vs ScrewTube -

- Which is the most uselless ; Lets begin the voting - RB

Mike,

I have a suggestion. It seems that your audience can have a mixed view of what is newsworthy. I for one like to hear any details of Web technology you care to report, but maybe you should create a “safe zone” for posts that get the front page. Any articles which may be questionable could be included under a link called “TC Plus” for example.

@Jerome: Oh please, a safe zone? For mentioning the existence of porn on the Internet?

I take issue with the line “braind-dead easy business to make money.” Michael, how do you know this? These sites get a lot of traffic, sure, but how easy is it to monetize? Your contextual ads are probably from Ad-brite, with horrendous returns on click-throughs since the ads will all be porn-related. The banner ads are probably all affiliate portals for adult friend finder and similar. The whole time you’re hosting a site that sucks up huge bandwidth.

The only real way to make this work financially is to offer a premium subscription for $$$, and I’d like to see how effective Pornotube is at converting those.

If by easy money you mean working 12-hour days, have low click-thru-rate and and awesome 1 in 500 average conversions then maybe.

Easy was in the 90s

By the way, in some contries in Europe where Columbine and V-tech doesn’t happen they not only get free, uncensored hardcore sex at 11pm. But they also have commercials with models showing uncovered breasts.

sex.so.evil

The only difference between porn in the past and porn now is that the pictures move.

Greeks performed in public nude, and had nude bathhouses (as did the Romans). Most of the big civilizations had nude arts, especially statutes, in erotic or explicitly sexual poses. Every big and small civilization has pictures of couples engaged in sexual acts.

Really, compared to our predecessors, we’re prudes. We hide nudity and sex, leaving it for dark rooms… (of course, given the obesity problem in America, that’s actually a good thing; I don’t want to see a fat guy/chick naked).

You want to see a really good porn site that has not yet been launched then check out http://www.perfectvideo.com. Top notch video delivery technology, huge selection of high quality content and, most importantly, no way for hairy guys to upload videos of themselves bangin their ugly girlfriends….

it is funny though, how in US society movies showing gruesome violence, or rock songs with (self) destructive lyrics are never a point of discussion, and sex (or porn) in the media seems to trigger “public” disgust.

If this site hit. Then there will lot of Porn websites with AJAX - Social Networking - lol

38/39 - not really. The guy who helps me with SEO says not to write about this stuff because it can give TC a slightly “adult” ranking, which hurts us in normal (good) results. But I’ve never tried to maximize our SEO rankings, or otherwise do things “normally.” The only secret around here is that I write about what interests me. You should follow your passion, too, instead of looking for the conspiracy theory in everything.

I’m leaving your comments up but taking out the link. Your site is known for low level fraud (fake advertisers) and you’re playing on my trademark. If you want to trash me you should do it anonymously. I’m likely to delete your entire comment in the future if it’s under that name.

@53

If you wrote more quality articles instead of coving a blank homepage, then their would be no reason for anyone to trash you. The arguments made in 38/39 were legitimate as you know. It is not true that you (with a ‘trusted’ site) who writes about such content will get labeled with the adult badge. You should fire your seo guy as he clearly does not know what he is talking about, but this is just an excuse and we both know it.

It is true that you have had well over 100K hits from google for that pornotube article alone… That said, it’s a big number and some sites dont get that in a year, and when you write about a new site that is likely to get a lot of coverage and you do it with your PR8 page you KNOW you will outrank that site and most others for a long time. Thus you will steal its traffic and thunder. Good for business every time.

It’s a smart move for your business model to write articles that will be ahead of the curve and steal the thunder of what’s happening, it’s logical for you to do it, you would appear more honest if you just came out and said, yea so what, some articles I write will help the site…

No conspiracy here just a little logic!

Mike says this “But I’ve never tried to maximize our SEO rankings, or otherwise do things “normally.””

and then he says “The guy who helps me with SEO says”

so the former is clearly a load of bull…

“my buddy worked as a porn producer for 7 years. he said it quite succinctly:

“porn messes women up””

…or maybe messed up women go into porn.

Being in porn makes your penis grow huge.

Does playing basketball make you tall or do tall people play basketball?

Causality is a bitch.

Don’t get fooled folks, mike is smarter then you might think. It’s a little spin that all men with agnostic knowledge do…It’s probably his own web site and he is giving it the attention to grow just like PornoTube. Think about it, this guy’s website reaches so many people per day, it’s currently the 617th biggest website according to alexa. So obviously if mike isn’t retarded, he would use all of this audience to his own advantage. This post would probably be deleted because it’s so revealing. Sorry to burst the bubble Mike…And to the sheeple: wake up and read on wikipedia something called mind control techniques and get smart. He’s thinking just like freemasons / illuminatis

yes #57, you got me. I built up this blog by pretending to love startups, knowing that after just two years of doing so I could finally (FINALLY!) use the traffic to launch a porn site and secretly move the traffic to that new site. Everyone knows that people who like startups secretly crave porn, so my plan was perfect. Until you came along. Damn you. Damn you, sir.

I’d delete your comment but it won’t do any good. The news is out. My plan is foiled. Two years down the drain.

And this is like the…what, 3rd porn-version youtube clone? It’s far far away from an original idea, but it certainly sells, I’m sure they’ll get millions of hits in no time.

I worked with user-generated porn four years ago. In principle, it’s more palatable than cheap mass-produced porn.

You know what would make a ton of $$$…. cafepress for porn.. “Monetize your sex life.” Take videos, upload them, and share commissions with the site. Do the web 2.0 thing: tags, ratings, comments, etc. No ads. This would allow ANYONE to become a porn star. Let the community drive the whole thing to help find the quality content.

I looked into this and because of the theocratic porn laws you’d have to do a contract with each submitter if you want to charge cash for it. However, someone in another country could easily do this.

TechPorn, Mike? That’s just a big fetish

Everyone, lighten up.. I get the whole “oh lord it’s sex!” thing you got going around but really, give it a rest.. if you don’t like the article skip it! TechCrunch or Mike alike in no way attempt to make you read this.. if you feel it’s obtrusive, offensive or anything else that would perhaps even in the slightest kick you against the shins move on to the next article!

I agree with the very first post made, it’s a big big business but I couldn’t do it.. I respect Mike’s decision to review this although I perhaps would’ve waited a little longer till there was more than just a landing page.

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