Comments on: AllOfMp3 Down For 8 Hours And Counting http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:41:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: fester http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1381197 fester Thu, 17 May 2007 12:58:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1381197 Allofmp3.com has been down for another 12 hours or so, at least. Is there word on whether it has finally been killed for good? Allofmp3.com has been down for another 12 hours or so, at least. Is there word on whether it has finally been killed for good?

]]> By: Shaun Kruger http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1366453 Shaun Kruger Sun, 06 May 2007 18:44:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1366453 This really is getting old. I have used allofmp3.com not because they were so cheap, but because I could buy media and have it work on all of my computers. I run linux, windows, and some hardware media players and MP3 is the least common denominator between all of these platforms. I would pay the same prices that itunes charges if only I could use the files I buy how, where, and on what devices I wanted to. This really is getting old. I have used allofmp3.com not because they were so cheap, but because I could buy media and have it work on all of my computers. I run linux, windows, and some hardware media players and MP3 is the least common denominator between all of these platforms.

I would pay the same prices that itunes charges if only I could use the files I buy how, where, and on what devices I wanted to.

]]> By: Mike Puchol http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1354165 Mike Puchol Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:12:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1354165 Did anyone notice that <a href="http://tech.am/2007/04/03/chronopay-suspends-allofmp3-merchant-account/" rel="nofollow">Chronopay suspended AllOfMP3 payments</a> not so long ago? As far as I know, short of buying gift cards on the streets of Moscow, they don't have any other means for people to send money into their accounts. Chronopay cites the use of a license model called FAIR as a pre-requisite for processing payments for Russian music stores, and AllOfMP3 uses the ROMS license. The difference between the two? In short words, the % of the earnings that are paid as royalties, and the lack or not of independent audits on sales. Did anyone notice that Chronopay suspended AllOfMP3 payments not so long ago? As far as I know, short of buying gift cards on the streets of Moscow, they don’t have any other means for people to send money into their accounts.

Chronopay cites the use of a license model called FAIR as a pre-requisite for processing payments for Russian music stores, and AllOfMP3 uses the ROMS license. The difference between the two? In short words, the % of the earnings that are paid as royalties, and the lack or not of independent audits on sales.

]]> By: john liken http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1353040 john liken Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:04:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1353040 there is a way of using paypal with allofmp3. People are trading allofmp3 gift vouchers on http://www.aom3.org/forum (allofmp3 community forums). Also good place to notice whether others are able to reach allofmp3 if you can not. there is a way of using paypal with allofmp3. People are trading allofmp3 gift vouchers on http://www.aom3.org/forum (allofmp3 community forums).

Also good place to notice whether others are able to reach allofmp3 if you can not.

]]> By: Arctic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1346950 Arctic Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:16:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1346950 Allofmp3 is selling music at remarkably low prices, and based on there will be suspicion of royalties not being paid. BUT - here is a FACT: AOMP3 is L E G A L - meaning its a legal business protected by law. You can like it or not - but is it fair to attack and sabotage a legal business just because you dont like it ? You may dislike the acticity of a legal business - but that doesnt mean you can put aside the written laws of civilized society. That would be complete anarchy - thus making you a much worse criminal than allofmp3. If allofmp3 should be stopped - it will have to be done in a civilized manner - in court - judged by law. And to all of those accusing allofmp3 of fraud and of not paying royalties: Not one of you has come up with a single piece of documentation - other than the beliefs in your own twisted minds. Either cough up some hard evidence for your accusations - or shut the f@.k up. Allofmp3 is selling music at remarkably low prices, and based on there will be suspicion of royalties not being paid.

BUT - here is a FACT:

AOMP3 is L E G A L - meaning its a legal business protected by law.

You can like it or not - but is it fair to attack and sabotage a legal business just because you dont like it ?

You may dislike the acticity of a legal business - but that doesnt mean you can put aside the written laws of civilized society. That would be complete anarchy - thus making you a much worse criminal than allofmp3.

If allofmp3 should be stopped - it will have to be done in a civilized manner - in court - judged by law.

And to all of those accusing allofmp3 of fraud and of not paying royalties: Not one of you has come up with a single piece of documentation - other than the beliefs in your own twisted minds.

Either cough up some hard evidence for your accusations - or shut the f@.k up.

]]> By: Charles http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1339142 Charles Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:36:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1339142 yesterday, I was using alltunes all morning and it was working great until about noon central standard time. about then, it sputtered to a stop and all the music that i had queued would download but wouldnt actually finish....so i am hoping that it isn't the last sign of death. but check out songboom.com to refill your balance. you can buy a redeemable gift voucher from them and i haven't had one fail. yet. i does take about a day for them to email the voucher to you and you probably need to use paypal for this service, but it's worth it if alltunes will get back up and running again!! yesterday, I was using alltunes all morning and it was working great until about noon central standard time. about then, it sputtered to a stop and all the music that i had queued would download but wouldnt actually finish….so i am hoping that it isn’t the last sign of death. but check out songboom.com to refill your balance. you can buy a redeemable gift voucher from them and i haven’t had one fail. yet. i does take about a day for them to email the voucher to you and you probably need to use paypal for this service, but it’s worth it if alltunes will get back up and running again!!

]]> By: Fred http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1339011 Fred Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:50:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1339011 Check http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3payments.htm Check http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3payments.htm

]]> By: netta http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1338198 netta Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:26:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1338198 how are you guys paying? i can't get any method to increase my balance. xrost has been down for a while, too. how are you guys paying? i can’t get any method to increase my balance. xrost has been down for a while, too.

]]> By: jock knock'em http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336549 jock knock'em Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:11:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336549 grr! allofmp3 may indeed pay (small) royalties to the Russian copyright collection agency, but I am pretty sure those royalties do not leave russia. In a way, selling something that's not yours is worse than stealing. i use p2p,so I'm stealing too, but I have bought many cds that I first heard on MP3. So at least they get some money there. I thought I was supporting my favourite artists by going to their shows, too, but I read somewhere that smaller artists struggle to break even on tours. Anyone know if this is correct? grr! allofmp3 may indeed pay (small) royalties to the Russian copyright collection agency, but I am pretty sure those royalties do not leave russia. In a way, selling something that’s not yours is worse than stealing. i use p2p,so I’m stealing too, but I have bought many cds that I first heard on MP3. So at least they get some money there. I thought I was supporting my favourite artists by going to their shows, too, but I read somewhere that smaller artists struggle to break even on tours. Anyone know if this is correct?

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336481 David Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:55:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336481 The music companies are stupid! We all want DRM free music at reasonable prices, something they are unable to offer. Allofmp3 provides that, even increasing prices slightly would still be reasonable. The music companies are stupid! We all want DRM free music at reasonable prices, something they are unable to offer. Allofmp3 provides that, even increasing prices slightly would still be reasonable.

]]> By: bill http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336416 bill Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:48:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336416 Focker, you're wrong. Sure when you think about someone like the Foo Fighters or U2, you may be correct. But most bands who are out there DON'T make a ton of money on the road. The brand ubiquity requried to push someone over that tipping point into success (Arctic Monkeys) is expensive: Publicists don't work for free, gas is more expensive than it ever has been, etc. So in reality, only the top tier of artists can make enough money from the road. Everyone else, including indie labels that provide much of the marketing support for growing bands, scrape by on an increasingly smaller margin. Your selfish outlook helps those who make the drek, and hurts the innovators. Aren't we about the innovators here? Focker, you’re wrong. Sure when you think about someone like the Foo Fighters or U2, you may be correct. But most bands who are out there DON’T make a ton of money on the road. The brand ubiquity requried to push someone over that tipping point into success (Arctic Monkeys) is expensive: Publicists don’t work for free, gas is more expensive than it ever has been, etc. So in reality, only the top tier of artists can make enough money from the road. Everyone else, including indie labels that provide much of the marketing support for growing bands, scrape by on an increasingly smaller margin. Your selfish outlook helps those who make the drek, and hurts the innovators. Aren’t we about the innovators here?

]]> By: Brian Solis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336347 Brian Solis Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:20:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336347 Over the weekend I tried to refill the account balance using several of the available options and workarounds to no avail. It was an ominous sign. I signed up with MP3sugar instead. The bummer is that I haven't been able to download @256k - and the track details are usually missing. Over the weekend I tried to refill the account balance using several of the available options and workarounds to no avail. It was an ominous sign. I signed up with MP3sugar instead. The bummer is that I haven’t been able to download @256k - and the track details are usually missing.

]]> By: Focker http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336315 Focker Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:45:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1336315 I hate to say this, but knowing the way some of the artists live and the money they get for concert, I don't feel bad for them and am guilt-free when buying music from Allofmp3. I hate to say this, but knowing the way some of the artists live and the money they get for concert, I don’t feel bad for them and am guilt-free when buying music from Allofmp3.

]]> By: Roger http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335825 Roger Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:39:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335825 @Jon: AFAIK they used to have a russian license. Please check it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllOfMP3.com - they say so too. @erick: you're right, we shall not go deeper into it, since this isn't a political board - I want to point to keep a clear mind and try to get background information by yourself instead relying on "official" information. There are always three views: your's, the others and the one, which isn't seen by both! :) @Jon: AFAIK they used to have a russian license. Please check it at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllOfMP3.com - they say so too.

@erick: you’re right, we shall not go deeper into it, since this isn’t a political board - I want to point to keep a clear mind and try to get background information by yourself instead relying on “official” information. There are always three views: your’s, the others and the one, which isn’t seen by both! :)

]]> By: Todd http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335230 Todd Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:45:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335230 Russia is one big mystery to us all. Russia is one big mystery to us all.

]]> By: RqTect http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335227 RqTect Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:43:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335227 http://DEBTISDUMB.com dAMM IT http://DEBTISDUMB.com

dAMM IT

]]> By: Gerard http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335216 Gerard Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:28:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335216 How many times will allofmp3 be pronounced dead? One thing is for certain: Illegal or legal, they have the best, easiest-to-use download site for music. Period. DRM aside, a lot of the other sites could learn from allofmp3. How many times will allofmp3 be pronounced dead? One thing is for certain: Illegal or legal, they have the best, easiest-to-use download site for music. Period. DRM aside, a lot of the other sites could learn from allofmp3.

]]> By: Profy.Com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335180 Profy.Com Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:59:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335180 <strong>AllOfMP3 Downed By Force...</strong> AllOfMP3 hasn’t fooled anyone with its ridiculously low-priced tracks. The site’s operators have claimed repeatedly that middlemen working for the recording industry were remunerated by the sales, despite repeated assertions by members of ... AllOfMP3 Downed By Force…

AllOfMP3 hasn’t fooled anyone with its ridiculously low-priced tracks. The site’s operators have claimed repeatedly that middlemen working for the recording industry were remunerated by the sales, despite repeated assertions by members of …

]]> By: Tech.Chick.Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335120 Tech.Chick.Blog Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:02:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335120 <strong>Wag of the Finger: AllOfMP3...</strong> ... Wag of the Finger: AllOfMP3…

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]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335049 David Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:15:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335049 AllOfMP3 was actually innovative, even if they were borderline illegal. What they showed was that if the price point is right (perhaps their price point was too low) and the user gets to choose his format and use the purchase on any device of his choosing, there is a huge market. I'm skeptical about the motivations behind iTunes going partially DRM-free. Like many have already mentioned, EMI seemed to be the main driver and it was a business decision more than a consumer's rights decision. As far as I know, my friends and I only bought stuff from iTunes in the first couple months of its launch because it was cool. We've all stopped now because man, realizing how limiting DRM is when initially we thought "this is not too bad" was a life-changing experience for all of us. AllOfMP3 was actually innovative, even if they were borderline illegal. What they showed was that if the price point is right (perhaps their price point was too low) and the user gets to choose his format and use the purchase on any device of his choosing, there is a huge market.

I’m skeptical about the motivations behind iTunes going partially DRM-free. Like many have already mentioned, EMI seemed to be the main driver and it was a business decision more than a consumer’s rights decision. As far as I know, my friends and I only bought stuff from iTunes in the first couple months of its launch because it was cool. We’ve all stopped now because man, realizing how limiting DRM is when initially we thought “this is not too bad” was a life-changing experience for all of us.

]]> By: Trollr http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335029 Trollr Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:53:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1335029 Rumor has it that the RIAA are going to sue them for lost revenue for 20 quintillion dollars! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales#Comparison Rumor has it that the RIAA are going to sue them for lost revenue for 20 quintillion dollars!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....Comparison

]]> By: Sepy Bazzazi http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334972 Sepy Bazzazi Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:43:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334972 Woah Rog.. touchy subject... I'm gunna go ahead and speak my mind for a minute, Yes what allofmp3 is/was doing is wrong... If i were a musician, and i worked so hard creating and advertising my song, or if i were a manager and one of my songs was being handed out and I was not seeing any sort of compensation, I would be pissed off too. However, Those guys are all rich anyways! Let us not fight over it, they are rich and they will only get more rich. So let's just be happy for them and all get along and throw a celebration over the demise of allofmp3. Check out my blog for cool new tech news and gadgets! http://blog.eyebag.ca Cheers Woah Rog.. touchy subject… I’m gunna go ahead and speak my mind for a minute, Yes what allofmp3 is/was doing is wrong… If i were a musician, and i worked so hard creating and advertising my song, or if i were a manager and one of my songs was being handed out and I was not seeing any sort of compensation, I would be pissed off too.

However, Those guys are all rich anyways! Let us not fight over it, they are rich and they will only get more rich. So let’s just be happy for them and all get along and throw a celebration over the demise of allofmp3.

Check out my blog for cool new tech news and gadgets! http://blog.eyebag.ca

Cheers

]]> By: Jon Katz http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334916 Jon Katz Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:22:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334916 Roger- What kind of royalties are they paying...and why? Roger- What kind of royalties are they paying…and why?

]]> By: erick http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334859 erick Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:31:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334859 @Roger - It's "Iraq". And not only did the US think so, so did France, UK, Spain, Germany and Turkey.... but lets not let facts blur the conversation. @Roger - It’s “Iraq”. And not only did the US think so, so did France, UK, Spain, Germany and Turkey…. but lets not let facts blur the conversation.

]]> By: Chris Tew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334802 Chris Tew Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:20:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/17/allofmp3-down-for-8-hours-and-counting/#comment-1334802 I'm with roger on this one. It is legal in Russia and royalties are still getting paid - only difference is everything is fairly priced. I’m with roger on this one.

It is legal in Russia and royalties are still getting paid - only difference is everything is fairly priced.

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