6500 songs uploaded. Few hangs here and there, but may have been on my ending in terms of encoding.

The Album Art is loading fine, seems to get quicker and it loads into cache.

Now I desperately need to create some playlists.

Works great though, no problems to report.

Punchy

Why not just install Jinzora/Ampache/Netjukebox etc on your own computer?

Just to add - we are already working on simple song view (basically like a playlist right now).

The problem with this one is actually the same as when you have many albums - large collections take a while to load in Flash.

So in this new release we had solved this issue for both album and track view for all songs (as well as all playlists and even long albums) by doing smart loading of only portions (+ some buffer) of data you are looking at currently.

The scroll to the bottom of the page will just trigger another fetch from the database and you get a new portion right away.

Bye bye long waits for the collection to load!

We are planning to release these changes as well as few others at the end of April.

Congrats to you and your team, I get the JAVA thing…just hope Sun keeps up development as they continue to careen toward penny stock (sorry a little aside there, been in the industry to long, flame away).

Anyhow…all is going well so far and will let it run overnight again tonight and tomorrow.

Still need that simple view and I am golden.

What a wonderful app. I still use Pandora and Slacker, but this will become a great place to create playlists and let’em rip on poker night.

Now if you could build in some DJ’ing type functions, like analyzing my collection and assigning BPM to each song, cueing, crossfading etc…that would be amazing.

Punchy

Oggman & Friends - we’re working on getting Ogg support to you as quickly as possible.

Now uploading 5555 more files.

I am anxious to see how many I get through and how well it performs after they all get there.

I also found that the Uploader check to see if any of the songs you intend to upload are already uploaded. Nice. Made life a lot easier.

Please give us a simple view.

Punchy

Over the last couple of days I though I would really put the app. to the test and attempted to load 6520 songs via the Java based “Advanced Uploader” feature.

Two things:

It crapped out after loading 1610 songs. Not bad, I was expecting it would quit earlier than that. Took about 12 hours on 720kbps connection.

The problem is now, MediaMaster takes forever to load all of the album art images and get itself settled down to where I can actually use it.

Frequently the Firefox just hangs all together.

They definitely need just a simple list view.

Secondly the Java based uploader now will not finish loading when I initiate it to try and upload the rest of my songs. It just sits there and eventually hangs Firefox again.

So, I am going to conclude either MediaMaster is okay for uploading a few tunes while you are travelling or over at a buddies house or the TechCrunch exposure if completely catching them off card and their servers are taking some intense pounding.

Either way, a simple list few would help them and me, and I am still trying to figure out what song was uploaded last so I can get the remaining 4000 or so in the queue, providing I can get the Uploader to work again.

Punchy

They don’t support .ogg? Really? I was interested in this service until I found that out. Sorry, no dice for me. I’m got all my audio in .ogg format.

Not really.

It’s quite easy to get the URL of any song that’s played by a Flash control: Use Firefox with the Firebug extension, the song’s URL will display in the Firebug Net tab. Unless the server is temporarily caching the song, the song URL will be a static hotlink.

http://www.jinzora.org/

Looks like a good service that I’d love to use. I just wonder if I need to install Firefox or use a Windows machine.

We’ve spent a lot of time with the 4 major labels and the Harry Fox agency
on aspects of our service that you’ll see coming in the next 6-12 months.
Our experience in working through business issues with them has been very
positive, and I anticipate that we’ll be able to come to business terms that
are mutually agreeable.

Jorge - You are correct; we are in a relatively uncharted area. We believe
that there are business models that will work for all parties. The most
important thing right now is building a service that works exceptionally
well for consumers and provides real value.

We could debate the relative merits of Copyright Act, the First Sale
Doctrine, Fair Use, the Rio decision and Audio Home Recording Act as they
apply to this area. To some extent, this is beside the point - there are no
standard business terms and there is no established case law. Companies
like MediaMaster need to have a business model that works, and is fair to
both thhe people who buy music and the people who work hard to create great
music. We think we’re on to one.

At the end of the day people want a useful and compelling service, and
businesses want to make money. The fact of the matter is that no one will
make money on lame services. On the other hand, good services can expand
the market and create new opportunities. We have a lot of development and
many discussions ahead of us. Please check out our blog for updates…I hope you’ll stay tuned!

I read on their blog that they plan to start doing some social stuff with people’s music. It’s kind of cryptic, but that seems like the right direction to go with this. They also mention the legality of what they’re doing; seems like they must have a connection to the music industry. I’m betting that they won’t go the way of mp3.com.

Armond

Given that each of these stations would qualify as a webcast the rates set by the CRB make it very difficult for companies to obtain automatic licenses and probably purposefully so, to allow the labels at least some control over who and what streams.

Does that mean that MediaMaster is satisfying the requirements of the DMCA by paying the royalty at the statutory rate recently set by the CRB? Neil, are you guys going to be paying the labels (and Soundexchange) for this or are you expecting them to just look the other way?

This legal theory is iffy, but untried. It’s more of a leap than Pandora or Last.fm, which are protected because 1) they actually license the music, and 2) don’t allow user’s any significant control of the stream.

It’s likely that if the music companies cared enough to actually pursue it, this company would be totally screwed (since they apparently aren’t licensing the music).

However, given the recent no-DRM announcement this week from one of the big players, that’s not likely to happen. The labels look like they’re moving toward less restrictions on use, and where a service attempts to respect the copyrights (as these do, by limiting access and streaming), they’ll likely let it be.