Comments on: How Much Is Photobucket Worth? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:00:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Web 2.0 startup valuation: Social Networks « SatpalParmar’s Weblog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1560929 Web 2.0 startup valuation: Social Networks « SatpalParmar’s Weblog Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:02:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1560929 [...] 5.How Much Is Photobucket Worth? [...] [...] 5.How Much Is Photobucket Worth? [...]

]]> By: Photobucket Was A Steal v. Google/YouTube http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367975 Photobucket Was A Steal v. Google/YouTube Mon, 07 May 2007 20:59:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367975 [...] 2006 YouTube had very little revenue. Photobucket, however, is on track to blow through their projection of $25 million this [...] [...] 2006 YouTube had very little revenue. Photobucket, however, is on track to blow through their projection of $25 million this [...]

]]> By: Confirmed: MySpace To Acquire Photobucket For $250 Million « Camtastic- Digital Camcorder Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367929 Confirmed: MySpace To Acquire Photobucket For $250 Million « Camtastic- Digital Camcorder Blog Mon, 07 May 2007 20:10:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367929 [...] Photobucket has been looking for a buyer since March, when they hired Lehman Brothers to help sell the company. They were looking for $300 million or more, but may have had few bidders other than MySpace. [...] [...] Photobucket has been looking for a buyer since March, when they hired Lehman Brothers to help sell the company. They were looking for $300 million or more, but may have had few bidders other than MySpace. [...]

]]> By: Confirmed: MySpace To Acquire Photobucket For $250 Million http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367907 Confirmed: MySpace To Acquire Photobucket For $250 Million Mon, 07 May 2007 19:47:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1367907 [...] Photobucket has been looking for a buyer since March, when they hired Lehman Brothers to help sell the company. They were looking for $300 million or more, but may have had few bidders other than MySpace. [...] [...] Photobucket has been looking for a buyer since March, when they hired Lehman Brothers to help sell the company. They were looking for $300 million or more, but may have had few bidders other than MySpace. [...]

]]> By: ::lemonup::News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » PhotoBucket Back on MySpace (I Want To Know The Backstory) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1356837 ::lemonup::News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » PhotoBucket Back on MySpace (I Want To Know The Backstory) Tue, 01 May 2007 06:55:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1356837 [...] of traffic, Photobucket was probably anxious to put this behind them and avoid spooking any potential acquirors looking at the [...] [...] of traffic, Photobucket was probably anxious to put this behind them and avoid spooking any potential acquirors looking at the [...]

]]> By: john griffin http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1326409 john griffin Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:38:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1326409 Still a bigger fan a flikr but impressed by Photobuckets meteoric rise. They must have some great JVs in place to generate that kind of traffic. Still a bigger fan a flikr but impressed by Photobuckets meteoric rise. They must have some great JVs in place to generate that kind of traffic.

]]> By: e5k | MySpace bloque les vidéos de PhotoBucket http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1326074 e5k | MySpace bloque les vidéos de PhotoBucket Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:40:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1326074 [...] intervient curieusement à un moment où Photobucket est à vendre (Fox, la maison mère de MySpace a été furieuse de savoir que YouTube a été vendu à Google). Il [...] [...] intervient curieusement à un moment où Photobucket est à vendre (Fox, la maison mère de MySpace a été furieuse de savoir que YouTube a été vendu à Google). Il [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » MySpace bloque les vidéos de PhotoBucket http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1325963 TechCrunch en français » MySpace bloque les vidéos de PhotoBucket Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:13:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1325963 [...] intervient curieusement à un moment où Photobucket est à vendre (Fox, la maison mère de MySpace a été furieuse de savoir que YouTube a été vendu à Google). Il [...] [...] intervient curieusement à un moment où Photobucket est à vendre (Fox, la maison mère de MySpace a été furieuse de savoir que YouTube a été vendu à Google). Il [...]

]]> By: PhotoBucket Videos Blocked on MySpace http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1325751 PhotoBucket Videos Blocked on MySpace Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:22:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1325751 [...] shutdown of Photobucket comes suspiciously close to news that Photobucket is up for sale (Fox, MySpace’s parent company, was notoriously rumored to be furious when YouTube sold to [...] [...] shutdown of Photobucket comes suspiciously close to news that Photobucket is up for sale (Fox, MySpace’s parent company, was notoriously rumored to be furious when YouTube sold to [...]

]]> By: Dave Liu dot com / musings from the edge » Articles of the Day http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1322050 Dave Liu dot com / musings from the edge » Articles of the Day Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:46:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1322050 [...] Photobucket Cheap at $400 Million? - Photobucket has hired Lehman Brothers to explore a possible sale, and the firm believes Photobucket to be worth something in the neighborhood of $300-$400 million — cheap, given its growth.Even thought the company’s still in debt, sources say Photobucket is close to breaking — even without having used most of the $15 million it just raised in venture capital. The insiders say the company made $4.35 million in 2005, $9.34 million in ‘06 and is expected to breach $32 million this year. But how is it making this money? Premium accounts and advertising, of course. [...] [...] Photobucket Cheap at $400 Million? - Photobucket has hired Lehman Brothers to explore a possible sale, and the firm believes Photobucket to be worth something in the neighborhood of $300-$400 million — cheap, given its growth.Even thought the company’s still in debt, sources say Photobucket is close to breaking — even without having used most of the $15 million it just raised in venture capital. The insiders say the company made $4.35 million in 2005, $9.34 million in ‘06 and is expected to breach $32 million this year. But how is it making this money? Premium accounts and advertising, of course. [...]

]]> By: wayne lambright http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1309615 wayne lambright Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:33:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1309615 Smart investors know good investments are rare opportunities. Owning the leader in the photo--hosting marketsector for a mere $10 per user acquisition is a smart play. Likewise, building on that investment with another strong niche player-one currently serving Bay Area craigslist and eBay users-makes a smart play even smarter. Let's walk through the numbers, apples to apples: If you search craigslist "for sale" in the Bay Area you'll find ImageDeposit.com owns a 10% marketshare of Photobucket users. ImageDeposit.com has 40,000 Bay Area users and 53,000 users in total. How did we get there in just three years? Well we're not giving away the secret sauce--just yet--but I will say this, our current acquisition costs are just under $0.25 per user. If you want to know how to make your smart investment even smarter--call Wayne Lambright at (415) 750-1921 Smart investors know good investments are rare opportunities. Owning the leader in the photo–hosting marketsector for a mere $10 per user acquisition is a smart play.

Likewise, building on that investment with another strong niche player-one currently serving Bay Area craigslist and eBay users-makes a smart play even smarter.

Let’s walk through the numbers, apples to apples: If you search craigslist “for sale” in the Bay Area you’ll find ImageDeposit.com owns a 10% marketshare of Photobucket users.

ImageDeposit.com has 40,000 Bay Area users and 53,000 users in total. How did we get there in just three years? Well we’re not giving away the secret sauce–just yet–but I will say this, our current acquisition costs are just under $0.25 per user. If you want to know how to make your smart investment even smarter–call Wayne Lambright at (415) 750-1921

]]> By: FrankRizzo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1300131 FrankRizzo Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:36:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1300131 I would love to know who their PR firm is? This is company that went from noplace to everyplace in a matter a minutes? Is that the just the Arrington effect? I dont think that is all of it. Clearly this PR firm is worth about $275MM since I wouldnt buy Photobucket for more than 2-3x sales or 10-12ebitda. I dont see the barrier - i dont see large switching costs that would make it worth more than a regular no-barrier business like a Subway franchisee I would love to know who their PR firm is? This is company that went from noplace to everyplace in a matter a minutes? Is that the just the Arrington effect? I dont think that is all of it. Clearly this PR firm is worth about $275MM since I wouldnt buy Photobucket for more than 2-3x sales or 10-12ebitda. I dont see the barrier - i dont see large switching costs that would make it worth more than a regular no-barrier business like a Subway franchisee

]]> By: Damon Billian http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1298673 Damon Billian Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:20:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1298673 "I’d be curious to know how many of their users use photobucket because of myspace. I’m sure photobucket wouldn’t be anywhere without myspace." I am sure that they would still do well. Unless I am wrong, I believe a good percentage of their traffic pre-MySpace was image hosting for things like eBay auctions. Personally: I love Flickr:) “I’d be curious to know how many of their users use photobucket because of myspace. I’m sure photobucket wouldn’t be anywhere without myspace.”

I am sure that they would still do well. Unless I am wrong, I believe a good percentage of their traffic pre-MySpace was image hosting for things like eBay auctions.

Personally: I love Flickr:)

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1298216 David Mackey Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:33:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1298216 Would like to know more of the technical details of the servers, etc. that powers their service. Any idea where I might find that? Would like to know more of the technical details of the servers, etc. that powers their service. Any idea where I might find that?

]]> By: Garth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1297394 Garth Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:47:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1297394 I would say photobucket is more about hosting than community, sure they added some sharing features, but the bulk of their traffic is stuff like ebay auctions and myspace profiles where they just host images and their brand is nowhere to be found. I would say photobucket is more about hosting than community, sure they added some sharing features, but the bulk of their traffic is stuff like ebay auctions and myspace profiles where they just host images and their brand is nowhere to be found.

]]> By: Antik http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1297326 Antik Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:25:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1297326 Photobucket is alike webshots, but YouTube or some other video sharing sites are of another quality. To each his own! Photobucket is alike webshots, but YouTube or some other video sharing sites are of another quality. To each his own!

]]> By: Josh http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296944 Josh Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:16:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296944 Another photo sharing site? Why are there so many of them around? In the age of Amazon S3, why is this still an unsolved problem? I really don't get it, they are all the same... Another photo sharing site? Why are there so many of them around? In the age of Amazon S3, why is this still an unsolved problem?

I really don’t get it, they are all the same…

]]> By: Scott http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296746 Scott Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:02:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296746 Why is it that two of the largest "hosting" websites in the world can't seem to get profitable? YouTube - Alexa Rank 4 - 2006 Revenue $15MM PhotoBucket - Alexa Rank 52 - 2006 Revenue $32MM Why is it that two of the largest “hosting” websites in the world can’t seem to get profitable?

YouTube - Alexa Rank 4 - 2006 Revenue $15MM
PhotoBucket - Alexa Rank 52 - 2006 Revenue $32MM

]]> By: Allen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296678 Allen Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:43:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296678 Photobucket can attribute some of its early success to the gamer demographic, posting up screen shots etc. Not sure if the move to Machinima ala Youtube has effected this, but I'm sure penetration into the gaming market has suffered due to video. Srill it is a solid company, and has the loyalty of many gamers who want to share screen shots (or flame eachother visually), also Imagedump, its funny no one ever mentions them. @Scott Yeats #6, Im glad you got a kick out of my prior post, it was of course a parody of the FC ruleset, and of course we do talk about our startups here. However I do still believe that the "sound of one hand clapping" is the best way to operate for small start ups engaged in sectors with 900lb gorillas running around..... Photobucket can attribute some of its early success to the gamer demographic, posting up screen shots etc. Not sure if the move to Machinima ala Youtube has effected this, but I’m sure penetration into the gaming market has suffered due to video.

Srill it is a solid company, and has the loyalty of many gamers who want to share screen shots (or flame eachother visually), also Imagedump, its funny no one ever mentions them.

@Scott Yeats #6, Im glad you got a kick out of my prior post, it was of course a parody of the FC ruleset, and of course we do talk about our startups here. However I do still believe that the “sound of one hand clapping” is the best way to operate for small start ups engaged in sectors with 900lb gorillas running around…..

]]> By: TallFreak http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296526 TallFreak Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296526 I'd be curious to know how many of their users use photobucket because of myspace. I'm sure photobucket wouldn't be anywhere without myspace. I’d be curious to know how many of their users use photobucket because of myspace. I’m sure photobucket wouldn’t be anywhere without myspace.

]]> By: Marc http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296315 Marc Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:34:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296315 While all these sites are very successful, and I am sure they are worth a lot of money for the user base, I think there is a conceptual flaw in the architecture. Uploading files to a central website makes this website a target for hacking and is a more risky architecture than something distributed like P2P. Then again P2P requires a client on all side which is a barrier to entry. I think ultimately this services will have to evolve towards an hybrid of uploads/P2P or make room for a new wave of services based on the right architecture. This is why I like Quickeo (http:/www.quickeo.com - disclosure: I am involved in the company), which is based on P2P model with synchronization to hosted servers (can any hosting service, not a central one). Definitely a more viable model in the long run... While all these sites are very successful, and I am sure they are worth a lot of money for the user base, I think there is a conceptual flaw in the architecture. Uploading files to a central website makes this website a target for hacking and is a more risky architecture than something distributed like P2P. Then again P2P requires a client on all side which is a barrier to entry. I think ultimately this services will have to evolve towards an hybrid of uploads/P2P or make room for a new wave of services based on the right architecture.
This is why I like Quickeo (http:/www.quickeo.com - disclosure: I am involved in the company), which is based on P2P model with synchronization to hosted servers (can any hosting service, not a central one). Definitely a more viable model in the long run…

]]> By: SomeGuy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296200 SomeGuy Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:01:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296200 What's interesting to me is how the "Other" category pops from $500K to $1.3M in 4Q07. What are they planning? I'm guessing a big push into print and hardgoods (cards, invites, etc.)? Maybe a partnership with a retailer? Any other speculation from the Commenting Crew? What’s interesting to me is how the “Other” category pops from $500K to $1.3M in 4Q07. What are they planning? I’m guessing a big push into print and hardgoods (cards, invites, etc.)? Maybe a partnership with a retailer? Any other speculation from the Commenting Crew?

]]> By: Rajeev Vashisht http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296116 Rajeev Vashisht Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:34:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296116 Cool figures guy, did you complete a Financial management course recently. Just kidding, Good to know Internet is not just a bubble, but you can make hey if you have the substance. http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com Cool figures guy, did you complete a Financial management course recently.

Just kidding,
Good to know Internet is not just a bubble, but you can make hey if you have the substance.

http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com

]]> By: matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296045 matt Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:58:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296045 big question is whether myspace cuts them off, pre a sale or announces their own. hi risk for any buyer outside of myspace big question is whether myspace cuts them off, pre a sale or announces their own. hi risk for any buyer outside of myspace

]]> By: Amy Wilsch http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296034 Amy Wilsch Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:54:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/29/how-much-is-photobucket-worth/#comment-1296034 One of the biggest issues with all of the online photo companies is that they get a lot of traffic - because people are uploading photos. Often they have more uploads than they do visits. Integrating themselves everywhere (like Flickr vs. Yahoo photos, Kodak easyshare or even Snapfish) is one way to make sure that traffic is actually doing something on the site (eyeballs = advertising) other than just adding photos no one ever looks at, taking up bandwidth - which is a growing issue. One of the biggest issues with all of the online photo companies is that they get a lot of traffic - because people are uploading photos. Often they have more uploads than they do visits. Integrating themselves everywhere (like Flickr vs. Yahoo photos, Kodak easyshare or even Snapfish) is one way to make sure that traffic is actually doing something on the site (eyeballs = advertising) other than just adding photos no one ever looks at, taking up bandwidth - which is a growing issue.

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