Comments on: Zimbra Desktop To Launch: Full Offline Functionality http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:51:05 -0800 hourly 1 By: sms http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-3086859 sms Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:20:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-3086859 @jc, I don’t see any Zimbra ads on TechCrunch. So what are you referring to? @jc, I don’t see any Zimbra ads on TechCrunch. So what are you referring to?

]]> By: Zimbra Jumps To The Desktop With Open Source Client http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-2418592 Zimbra Jumps To The Desktop With Open Source Client Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:59:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-2418592 [...] to compete with Outlook, Mozilla Thunderbird, Mac Mail, etc. This is a new iteration of their browser-based offline product announced in March [...] [...] to compete with Outlook, Mozilla Thunderbird, Mac Mail, etc. This is a new iteration of their browser-based offline product announced in March [...]

]]> By: Yahoo’s Zimbra Releases v5.0 with BlackBerry Support, New Ajax Features http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-2004843 Yahoo’s Zimbra Releases v5.0 with BlackBerry Support, New Ajax Features Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:08:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-2004843 [...] desktop client, which was soft launched last March and emulates much of the browser-based client, now supports non-Zimbra email accounts [...] [...] desktop client, which was soft launched last March and emulates much of the browser-based client, now supports non-Zimbra email accounts [...]

]]> By: Scrybe Closes Series A http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1543049 Scrybe Closes Series A Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:08:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1543049 [...] The system operates offline by caching your changes and then uploading when the system reconnects. Zimbra and Google Gears provide similar online/offline [...] [...] The system operates offline by caching your changes and then uploading when the system reconnects. Zimbra and Google Gears provide similar online/offline [...]

]]> By: Twelve Million New Customers For Zimbra - Partnership With Comcast http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1367116 Twelve Million New Customers For Zimbra - Partnership With Comcast Mon, 07 May 2007 03:53:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1367116 [...] recently released new software that lets customers access their webmail offline. The company offers its basic service for free via an open-source download. They charge for [...] [...] recently released new software that lets customers access their webmail offline. The company offers its basic service for free via an open-source download. They charge for [...]

]]> By: michiel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1292046 michiel Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:57:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1292046 Zimbra is a monster on the server. Yes it's open source, but you can only run it on Enterprise Red Hat Linux, with at least 4GB RAM. And that for a web based groupware app. We are still searching for a good web based alternative that runs quickly and can install on any Linux and haven't found it yet. I believe there is room for a PHP project to handle this. Zimbra is a monster on the server. Yes it’s open source, but you can only run it on Enterprise Red Hat Linux, with at least 4GB RAM. And that for a web based groupware app. We are still searching for a good web based alternative that runs quickly and can install on any Linux and haven’t found it yet. I believe there is room for a PHP project to handle this.

]]> By: steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1287341 steve Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:24:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1287341 regarding the always on Internet - I live in Australia - and we do not have always on internet, our planes do not have always on Internet, we still have some sections of no connection at all - when driving between major cities such as Brisbane and Sydey - so an online application that works both online and offline makes great sense for here. It also means that i can start an online application - get on a train or a plane and carry on with my work and then reconnect when i arrive at the other end i can reconnect again. Even with permanent ADSL / Cable there is still some down time to the Internet from time to time - so its convienant that i can still work in offline mode if required. regarding the always on Internet – I live in Australia – and we do not have always on internet, our planes do not have always on Internet, we still have some sections of no connection at all – when driving between major cities such as Brisbane and Sydey – so an online application that works both online and offline makes great sense for here.

It also means that i can start an online application – get on a train or a plane and carry on with my work and then reconnect when i arrive at the other end i can reconnect again.

Even with permanent ADSL / Cable there is still some down time to the Internet from time to time – so its convienant that i can still work in offline mode if required.

]]> By: Ted http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1286604 Ted Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:30:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1286604 Correction: Their California office is in San Mateo, not San Francisco. Correction: Their California office is in San Mateo, not San Francisco.

]]> By: jc http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1286532 jc Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:07:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1286532 I stand corrected. I still do not see the need for such light weight candy corn as this. I believe there are a host of other apps that offer more functionality and are not tooting their horn. Again, respectfully, I stand corrected regarding zoho mixup. I stand corrected. I still do not see the need for such light weight candy corn as this. I believe there are a host of other apps that offer more functionality and are not tooting their horn. Again, respectfully, I stand corrected regarding zoho mixup.

]]> By: Douglas http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1286510 Douglas Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:58:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1286510 @ YG (30), re:jc (27) He's thinking of Zoho, which does advertise on the site, and does receive a lot of good press here. In fairness to Mike, he's pretty good about pointing that out when they're mentioned. In fairness to Zoho, they make some pretty good products, a few of which I use (I am not affiliated with the company in any way, though I have received unsolicited compensation for providing feedback [they sent me a gift certificate to Amazon.com for critiquing Desktop - how cool is that?]). In fairness to jc, both words start with "Z". You really can't expect people to read to the end of the word before frothing at the mouth. @ YG (30), re:jc (27)
He’s thinking of Zoho, which does advertise on the site, and does receive a lot of good press here.
In fairness to Mike, he’s pretty good about pointing that out when they’re mentioned.
In fairness to Zoho, they make some pretty good products, a few of which I use (I am not affiliated with the company in any way, though I have received unsolicited compensation for providing feedback [they sent me a gift certificate to Amazon.com for critiquing Desktop - how cool is that?]).
In fairness to jc, both words start with “Z”. You really can’t expect people to read to the end of the word before frothing at the mouth.

]]> By: iamshimone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1286046 iamshimone Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:30:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1286046 Actually, the Zimbra Desktop URL in this article is incorrect. The correct URL is: http://www.zimbra.com/products/desktop.html Actually, the Zimbra Desktop URL in this article is incorrect. The correct URL is: http://www.zimb...ts/desktop.html

]]> By: pwb http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285823 pwb Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:25:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285823 As noted, the 6m figure is "paid mailboxes" which for all we know cost a nickel. I still don't really "get" Zimbra. I can understand an alternative to Exchange which includes a web-based version as a small feature. But with Outlook, Thunderbird, et. al., I'm not sure who would succumb themselves to a browser-based interface for day-to-day mail handling. As noted, the 6m figure is “paid mailboxes” which for all we know cost a nickel.

I still don’t really “get” Zimbra. I can understand an alternative to Exchange which includes a web-based version as a small feature. But with Outlook, Thunderbird, et. al., I’m not sure who would succumb themselves to a browser-based interface for day-to-day mail handling.

]]> By: YG http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285381 YG Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:09:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285381 @jc, I don't see any Zimbra ads on TechCrunch. So what are you referring to? @jc, I don’t see any Zimbra ads on TechCrunch. So what are you referring to?

]]> By: I disagree http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285379 I disagree Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:08:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285379 I fail to see how this relates to PCs exclusively The initial story you cited didn't even relate to PCs. It was user error. Several of the headlines referred to "data" or "computer" or "server". The only one that sounded like a PC was the "laptop" story. Next time you want to use real life stories to support your argument, use stories that relate to it. We're not so stupid that we get scared by a bunch of security breach headlines and assume they're the fault of lacking PC security. I fail to see how this relates to PCs exclusively The initial story you cited didn’t even relate to PCs. It was user error. Several of the headlines referred to “data” or “computer” or “server”. The only one that sounded like a PC was the “laptop” story. Next time you want to use real life stories to support your argument, use stories that relate to it. We’re not so stupid that we get scared by a bunch of security breach headlines and assume they’re the fault of lacking PC security.

]]> By: YG http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285372 YG Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:07:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285372 The 6 million user number has to be taken with a huge box of salt. As an example, I have an email account assigned at Comcast now, and I have had email accounts created for me by Earthlink, AT&T (... and every other ISP I have had). All these accounts had one thing in common: I never accessed them, not even ONCE. It escapes me why anyone would want to use their ISP based email account. It has no advantage over a Yahoo or GMail and it has all the disadvantages. A lot of Zimbra's "paid" accounts are of that flavor (they do have enterprise customers too, but I bet those are a small fraction of the 6 million number). In another context, I learnt from an ISP that the pricing they offer their email provider is in the sub $1 per account. So the revenue from these ISP based "paid" mailboxes is likely to be quite low for Zimbra. The 6 million user number has to be taken with a huge box of salt. As an example, I have an email account assigned at Comcast now, and I have had email accounts created for me by Earthlink, AT&T (… and every other ISP I have had). All these accounts had one thing in common: I never accessed them, not even ONCE. It escapes me why anyone would want to use their ISP based email account. It has no advantage over a Yahoo or GMail and it has all the disadvantages. A lot of Zimbra’s “paid” accounts are of that flavor (they do have enterprise customers too, but I bet those are a small fraction of the 6 million number).

In another context, I learnt from an ISP that the pricing they offer their email provider is in the sub $1 per account. So the revenue from these ISP based “paid” mailboxes is likely to be quite low for Zimbra.

]]> By: jc http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285230 jc Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:54:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285230 6 million paying users, b.s. venture capital hype. application sucks, slow as hell, and cant do anything more than wordpad. what is the big deal about this fpos you keep promoting techcrunch, oh, I forgot, they are buying ads on your site...no wonder you are a fanboy of zimbra. this site is getting suckier by the minute, your reporting is less than ethical, this is just a paid infomercial. 6 million paying users, b.s. venture capital hype.

application sucks, slow as hell, and cant do anything more than wordpad.

what is the big deal about this fpos you keep promoting techcrunch, oh, I forgot, they are buying ads on your site…no wonder you are a fanboy of zimbra. this site is getting suckier by the minute, your reporting is less than ethical, this is just a paid infomercial.

]]> By: Simon North http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285202 Simon North Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:46:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285202 Zimbra! I've never heard of it but I have now, looks good, I shall have to investigate further, but GMail will always win. Zimbra! I’ve never heard of it but I have now, looks good, I shall have to investigate further, but GMail will always win.

]]> By: mathew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285148 mathew Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:28:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285148 6 million paying customers: zimbra whitelabels their webmail app to isps - that's how they get the 6 million number - still impressive but different from 6 million individual people signing up and forking over their credit card. 6 million paying customers: zimbra whitelabels their webmail app to isps – that’s how they get the 6 million number – still impressive but different from 6 million individual people signing up and forking over their credit card.

]]> By: Brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285114 Brian Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:14:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285114 On the flash side, the speed of Pronto! the Flash UI for Communigate is far more usable. The communigate product is also free for five users. See here http://www.communigate.com/screenshots/pronto!.html On the flash side, the speed of Pronto! the Flash UI for Communigate is far more usable. The communigate product is also free for five users. See here
http://www.comm...eenshots/pronto!.html

]]> By: Open Parenthesis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285017 Open Parenthesis Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:42:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285017 <strong>Zimbra Desktop?...</strong> I ‘ve blogged thought I had blogged before here about Zimbra and their demos of “desktop” or “disconnected” functionality. Today, TechCrunch announced “Zimbra Desktop to Launch: Full Offline Functionality” - sa... Zimbra Desktop?…

I ‘ve blogged thought I had blogged before here about Zimbra and their demos of “desktop” or “disconnected” functionality.
Today, TechCrunch announced “Zimbra Desktop to Launch: Full Offline Functionality” – sa…

]]> By: Shane http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285012 Shane Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:40:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285012 The point is that there is functionality you lose with Zimbra when accessing it via Outlook (or other clients). Tagging is the most obvious one I can think of. You also lose the ability to modify your account options in Outlook. This way, you get all the functionality of the web client plus the offline ability of a typical client. The point is that there is functionality you lose with Zimbra when accessing it via Outlook (or other clients). Tagging is the most obvious one I can think of. You also lose the ability to modify your account options in Outlook. This way, you get all the functionality of the web client plus the offline ability of a typical client.

]]> By: bnura http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1285005 bnura Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:37:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1285005 It is very slow !! Not sure how much it is going to impress the end user, whose main concern is going to be the ease of usability !!! It is very slow !! Not sure how much it is going to impress the end user, whose main concern is going to be the ease of usability !!!

]]> By: James Gray http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1284904 James Gray Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:02:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1284904 These sort of applications are not as good as Outlook and other MS software, they are just another way of doing it. http://www.iphone-3d.com These sort of applications are not as good as Outlook and other MS software, they are just another way of doing it.

http://www.iphone-3d.com

]]> By: woozlewuzzle http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1284867 woozlewuzzle Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:45:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1284867 Not everyone has 24 hour internet availability. What about people who travel for work and want to write emails while in the airplane and have them sent when they get an Internet connection? They rely now on tools like Outlook to work in offline mode. Such a need has made web-based-only email a non-starter for many businesses. This is a good thing if it works well. Not everyone has 24 hour internet availability. What about people who travel for work and want to write emails while in the airplane and have them sent when they get an Internet connection? They rely now on tools like Outlook to work in offline mode. Such a need has made web-based-only email a non-starter for many businesses. This is a good thing if it works well.

]]> By: Abdul Aziz http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/26/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/comment-page-1/#comment-1284861 Abdul Aziz Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:43:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/25/zimbra-to-lauch-desktop-application-with-full-offline-functionality/#comment-1284861 How different is this from using an email client like Outlook locally on your computer?? How different is this from using an email client like Outlook locally on your computer??

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