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	<title>Comments on: Digesting Google&#8217;s New PPA Advertising Product</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 06:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Cost Per Click Advertising &#187; Cornell Info 204 - Networks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-2057850</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Cost Per Click Advertising &#187; Cornell Info 204 - Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-2057850</guid>
		<description>[...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/ The past several weeks we have discussed the internet and the implications of link analysis  and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007.....g-product/</a> The past several weeks we have discussed the internet and the implications of link analysis  and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Adventures of PPC Hero - Heroic Feats of Pay Per Click Management : 5 Things to Consider When Running a Google AdWords Pay Per Action Campaign</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1781793</link>
		<dc:creator>The Adventures of PPC Hero - Heroic Feats of Pay Per Click Management : 5 Things to Consider When Running a Google AdWords Pay Per Action Campaign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1781793</guid>
		<description>[...] doesn&#8217;t. The only problem is that no one&#8217;s talking about it! There was considerable buzz upon launch, but the blogosphere has since mostly kept [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] doesn&#8217;t. The only problem is that no one&#8217;s talking about it! There was considerable buzz upon launch, but the blogosphere has since mostly kept [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Do No Evil? Yeah right... at Starting Up by Rahul Pathak</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1557149</link>
		<dc:creator>Do No Evil? Yeah right... at Starting Up by Rahul Pathak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1557149</guid>
		<description>[...] The Techcrunch post on Google&#8217;s CPA release contained a mention about Google&#8217;s decision to launch text link ads. You know, the same god-awful ads that pop up when you mouse over underlined text. The same ads that break the user experience as you surf the web. No longer will Google ads need to be confined to their own space on the site - publishers can subtly embed ads right into hyperlinks within the main content of the site itself (see second paragraph of quote above). Other companies already do this, but Google has never tread into the “advertorial” space before. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Techcrunch post on Google&#8217;s CPA release contained a mention about Google&#8217;s decision to launch text link ads. You know, the same god-awful ads that pop up when you mouse over underlined text. The same ads that break the user experience as you surf the web. No longer will Google ads need to be confined to their own space on the site - publishers can subtly embed ads right into hyperlinks within the main content of the site itself (see second paragraph of quote above). Other companies already do this, but Google has never tread into the “advertorial” space before. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Software Review Blog: Web marketing tool Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1395036</link>
		<dc:creator>Software Review Blog: Web marketing tool Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 06:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1395036</guid>
		<description>[...] again, even as they catch their breath from the massive Panama release earlier this year.  Source: Techcrunch.com Spread the word: Related/  Bookmark it/ Readit  Posted by: Jack Doren on May 25, 07 &#124; 12:37 am &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] again, even as they catch their breath from the massive Panama release earlier this year.  Source: Techcrunch.com Spread the word: Related/  Bookmark it/ Readit  Posted by: Jack Doren on May 25, 07 | 12:37 am | [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Pay Per Action: affiliate marketing in disguise? at Catalyst Search Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1323631</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Pay Per Action: affiliate marketing in disguise? at Catalyst Search Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1323631</guid>
		<description>[...] Tech Crunch has this: This won’t affect big advertisers much, because they already track ROI on CPC advertising very closely. For smaller advertisers though, click fraud can wreak havoc. The ability to largely filter out click fraud will help them track ROI much more closely that they previously could. This will be a big help for them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Tech Crunch has this: This won’t affect big advertisers much, because they already track ROI on CPC advertising very closely. For smaller advertisers though, click fraud can wreak havoc. The ability to largely filter out click fraud will help them track ROI much more closely that they previously could. This will be a big help for them. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1304067</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1304067</guid>
		<description>It will be interesting to see how this works out. Seems like there are a ton of potential issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how this works out. Seems like there are a ton of potential issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1296861</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1296861</guid>
		<description>All in all- I just want to know- should I invest in Value Click, or not?

Any suggestions on this, as this market expands and marketers "FLOCK."

???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all- I just want to know- should I invest in Value Click, or not?</p>
<p>Any suggestions on this, as this market expands and marketers &#8220;FLOCK.&#8221;</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: Google annuncia la pubblicità pay per action at Robgiornale</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1288582</link>
		<dc:creator>Google annuncia la pubblicità pay per action at Robgiornale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1288582</guid>
		<description>[...] qui per leggere l&#8217;articolo di [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] qui per leggere l&#8217;articolo di [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: daniel log: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; google lança novo produto de publicidade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1285508</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel log: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; google lança novo produto de publicidade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1285508</guid>
		<description>[...] Google lançou ontem seu mais novo produto para a publicidade online, o Pay-Per-Action, ou [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Google lançou ontem seu mais novo produto para a publicidade online, o Pay-Per-Action, ou [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: nicolas leroy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1285335</link>
		<dc:creator>nicolas leroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1285335</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Miscellaneous news on social shopping and shopping engines (2007-03-26)...&lt;/strong&gt;


Big news on the blogosphere this week: Google is testing CPA - cost-per-action - (also called PPA - pay per action) on AdWords. In case of you didn&#8217;t read anything about it yet, here is the official announcement on Google blog, and an analysis o...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Miscellaneous news on social shopping and shopping engines (2007-03-26)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Big news on the blogosphere this week: Google is testing CPA - cost-per-action - (also called PPA - pay per action) on AdWords. In case of you didn&#8217;t read anything about it yet, here is the official announcement on Google blog, and an analysis o&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283988</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283988</guid>
		<description>Interactive, verifiable, direct response is the next Internet marketing.  More and more, advertisers are demanding accountability.  As advertisers grow weary of click-based or impression-based ads difficult to quantify with sparse conversion rates they will increasingly require ad buys that put prospective customers in direct contact with them.  The ‘rate card’ for PPC, CPM and similar advertising will lose influence and eventually be replaced by market-driven pricing and rates, as offered by PPA exchanges where advertisers bid for results-oriented inventory based on consumer profiles and proven demographic information. As this trend grows, the effectiveness of every ad, listing, impression, response and _result_ will be scrutinized thoroughly. A ‘click through’ to a web site pales in comparison to the value of a purchase inquiry by a motivated prospect.  Advertisers aren’t looking for ‘impressions’ or ‘clicks’,  they want clients and customers. The new standard for measuring the success of interactive ad campaigns will not be “What was my CTR”, but rather, ‘How many times did I connect with a qualified prospect?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interactive, verifiable, direct response is the next Internet marketing.  More and more, advertisers are demanding accountability.  As advertisers grow weary of click-based or impression-based ads difficult to quantify with sparse conversion rates they will increasingly require ad buys that put prospective customers in direct contact with them.  The ‘rate card’ for PPC, CPM and similar advertising will lose influence and eventually be replaced by market-driven pricing and rates, as offered by PPA exchanges where advertisers bid for results-oriented inventory based on consumer profiles and proven demographic information. As this trend grows, the effectiveness of every ad, listing, impression, response and _result_ will be scrutinized thoroughly. A ‘click through’ to a web site pales in comparison to the value of a purchase inquiry by a motivated prospect.  Advertisers aren’t looking for ‘impressions’ or ‘clicks’,  they want clients and customers. The new standard for measuring the success of interactive ad campaigns will not be “What was my CTR”, but rather, ‘How many times did I connect with a qualified prospect?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283859</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283859</guid>
		<description>Publishers are going to get totally fucked.... Google's stock will plummet... suicides galore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publishers are going to get totally fucked&#8230;. Google&#8217;s stock will plummet&#8230; suicides galore</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283729</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1283729</guid>
		<description>This is something that Amazon has been basically doing for quite some time isn't it? Why is this even news? People are smarter than you give them credit for. I generally know when something is an ad, and can decide whether to click on the link or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something that Amazon has been basically doing for quite some time isn&#8217;t it? Why is this even news? People are smarter than you give them credit for. I generally know when something is an ad, and can decide whether to click on the link or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Agencia Publicidad Online - Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1281119</link>
		<dc:creator>Agencia Publicidad Online - Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1281119</guid>
		<description>This is my blog about Pay per action-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my blog about Pay per action-</p>
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		<title>By: Agencia Publicidad Online - Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1281113</link>
		<dc:creator>Agencia Publicidad Online - Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1281113</guid>
		<description>It is a wonderful news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a wonderful news!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hyland</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1274769</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1274769</guid>
		<description>Tontomania touches on the big hype, and smoke-n-Mirrors false promises, passed out like cult coolaid to affiliates since 2000. Aside from Share-a-Sale.com no affiliate network isn't operating a monopoly commission funneling system strickly to their Super Affiiate masters and crooked 3rd party AM firms.

My Tagline for for years, with 18,000+ affiiate related posts IN AFFILIATE FORUMS, is "What have YOU done today to put REAL VALUE into a click.... from a shoppers viewpoint? Well Google staff (Adwords/Google Checkout/Froogle/Analytics)  have conversed with me since I first published www.ecomcity.com/safehaven-network.htm the bullet proof/fraud proof solution to existing Adwhore run affiiate networks.

They are earning the real meaning and all neuances of my tagline... one new Ad related introduction at a time. They know their money making potential as the largest media venue in the world relys upon each Googler gettting perceived and real advertised value at the end of every click.

Their staff knows I run ecommerce sites for merchant clients that never game the Google system, protect all their trademarks, have ZERO Adwords click fraud, monitize Zero SERP spammers, and contantly have the highest conversion ratios of any onine product merchants ... regardess of traffic source. Therefore they get straight advice, and valid warnings, from me on any phone or e-mail conversation. That goes for their PPA initiative too. You can bet they're well aware of the existing affiliate network's hord of referral cookie stuffers, BHO forced click cookie cannons and sleazy merchant posing middlemen. What they' do about it remains to be seen.

Meanwhile each vetted PPA Beta merchant/advertiser has their referral G-cookie tracking script embedded into their "action compete success page"  hardwired to an on/off ALERT Red alarm light monitoring system.... before their PPA offers get distributed to the dubious valued G-Adsense content network. Like in my Safe Haven network model, Google now knows the merchant's honesty sales reporting factor can be controlled at the shopping cart for product sales. (Google Checkout is basically working and the bad actors caught and booted).  Lead forms, signups or other non-product actions are rife for affiliate fraudsters. Same goes for G-cookie stuffers from both domain page script tricks to the BHO incentive pop-ups and their Zombie BOT click slave owners. PPA is directed at wiping out the MFA doorway page click traps poluting the internet, the SERPs and sponsor Ads with meaningless time wasting clicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tontomania touches on the big hype, and smoke-n-Mirrors false promises, passed out like cult coolaid to affiliates since 2000. Aside from Share-a-Sale.com no affiliate network isn&#8217;t operating a monopoly commission funneling system strickly to their Super Affiiate masters and crooked 3rd party AM firms.</p>
<p>My Tagline for for years, with 18,000+ affiiate related posts IN AFFILIATE FORUMS, is &#8220;What have YOU done today to put REAL VALUE into a click&#8230;. from a shoppers viewpoint? Well Google staff (Adwords/Google Checkout/Froogle/Analytics)  have conversed with me since I first published <a href="http://www.ecomcity.com/safehaven-network.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecomcity.com/safehaven-network.htm</a> the bullet proof/fraud proof solution to existing Adwhore run affiiate networks.</p>
<p>They are earning the real meaning and all neuances of my tagline&#8230; one new Ad related introduction at a time. They know their money making potential as the largest media venue in the world relys upon each Googler gettting perceived and real advertised value at the end of every click.</p>
<p>Their staff knows I run ecommerce sites for merchant clients that never game the Google system, protect all their trademarks, have ZERO Adwords click fraud, monitize Zero SERP spammers, and contantly have the highest conversion ratios of any onine product merchants &#8230; regardess of traffic source. Therefore they get straight advice, and valid warnings, from me on any phone or e-mail conversation. That goes for their PPA initiative too. You can bet they&#8217;re well aware of the existing affiliate network&#8217;s hord of referral cookie stuffers, BHO forced click cookie cannons and sleazy merchant posing middlemen. What they&#8217; do about it remains to be seen.</p>
<p>Meanwhile each vetted PPA Beta merchant/advertiser has their referral G-cookie tracking script embedded into their &#8220;action compete success page&#8221;  hardwired to an on/off ALERT Red alarm light monitoring system&#8230;. before their PPA offers get distributed to the dubious valued G-Adsense content network. Like in my Safe Haven network model, Google now knows the merchant&#8217;s honesty sales reporting factor can be controlled at the shopping cart for product sales. (Google Checkout is basically working and the bad actors caught and booted).  Lead forms, signups or other non-product actions are rife for affiliate fraudsters. Same goes for G-cookie stuffers from both domain page script tricks to the BHO incentive pop-ups and their Zombie BOT click slave owners. PPA is directed at wiping out the MFA doorway page click traps poluting the internet, the SERPs and sponsor Ads with meaningless time wasting clicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tontomania</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1273489</link>
		<dc:creator>Tontomania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1273489</guid>
		<description>Sure, a lot of advertisers will be happy to stick with the affiliate programs, milking the shrinking cow for as long as possible. And why not? They have no incentive, everything to gain, and nothing to lose. They get free traffic, and only pay commissions when they happen to make a sale.

We need to keep in mind that it's the advertisers who fund the affiliate programs. So it should not come as a surprise that affiliate programs are designed to short change publishers -- who may not be sophisticated enough to see exactly how it's done. But for sure, they noticed it when they started getting paid 90% less beginning in January of 2000. (And don't give me this gunk about the Internet meltdown. Sales and ecommerce have increased steadily, I'll bet everybody reading this is spending 10 times more money online today than in 2000)

Using the affiliate program infrastructure, advertisers can redefine what a hit is, erase cookies after the first sale, continually raise the bar, and many other things to pay less-less-less commissions. Affiliate program URLs are intentionally easy to scam, resulting in somebody else getting credit for the traffic that a publisher drives, and it's all conveniently easy, because that's the way it was designed. Some advertisers even run ads for other affiliate programs -- on the very same landing pages that publishers drive traffic to. A disgraceful practice.

On the Amazon front, for years they displayed bad faith, by routing sales to used book sellers, for which they didn't have to pay any commissions to publishers who drove them the traffic in the first place. This was an extreme slap in the face to publishers. Once they finally did start paying commissions on used books, they invented new ways to squeeze down payments to publishers, to about 10% of what it was previously. My worst dream would be Google ever merging with Amazon, because Amazon's lack of integrity would infect Google. I wish Google would just bury them instead.

The good news is, since day one, customers have always received the product or service they ordered.

Advertisers made sales they wouldn't have had otherwise, all based on free traffic. How genius is that?

Affiliate networks got a percentage of each sale, if the advertiser bothered telling them about it.

And if the affiliate program could invent a reason to deprive the publisher, they kept that part of the commission too. And it was no skin off the affiliate program's back that their URL's were so easy to scam by simply switching pid's, in which case they sent credit to the wrong publisher. They knew what was going on, they made only feeble attempts to stop it, and all the while, wink-wink, they were paying the bad guys. The bottom line is, less sophisticated publishers often did not get credit for the sales they generated. If affiliate programs would have had any integrity, and if they would have exerted due diligence to protect a publishers interest against fraud, they'd have the loyalty of publishers, rather than be ducking for cover now. But in early 2000 they became corrupt. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

I will admit, it raises my eyebrows that Google won't tell publishers how Adsense commissions are calculated. But the bottom line is that Google pays publishers 100 times more money than the affiliate programs ever did. That's because Google has the discipline not to screw all the money out of the system, and that's why publishers are flocking to them.

Since 2000 I have not trusted the affiliate programs, and I'm getting extreme joy watching them squirm. Die, Commission Junction, Link Share &#38; Amazon, Die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, a lot of advertisers will be happy to stick with the affiliate programs, milking the shrinking cow for as long as possible. And why not? They have no incentive, everything to gain, and nothing to lose. They get free traffic, and only pay commissions when they happen to make a sale.</p>
<p>We need to keep in mind that it&#8217;s the advertisers who fund the affiliate programs. So it should not come as a surprise that affiliate programs are designed to short change publishers &#8212; who may not be sophisticated enough to see exactly how it&#8217;s done. But for sure, they noticed it when they started getting paid 90% less beginning in January of 2000. (And don&#8217;t give me this gunk about the Internet meltdown. Sales and ecommerce have increased steadily, I&#8217;ll bet everybody reading this is spending 10 times more money online today than in 2000)</p>
<p>Using the affiliate program infrastructure, advertisers can redefine what a hit is, erase cookies after the first sale, continually raise the bar, and many other things to pay less-less-less commissions. Affiliate program URLs are intentionally easy to scam, resulting in somebody else getting credit for the traffic that a publisher drives, and it&#8217;s all conveniently easy, because that&#8217;s the way it was designed. Some advertisers even run ads for other affiliate programs &#8212; on the very same landing pages that publishers drive traffic to. A disgraceful practice.</p>
<p>On the Amazon front, for years they displayed bad faith, by routing sales to used book sellers, for which they didn&#8217;t have to pay any commissions to publishers who drove them the traffic in the first place. This was an extreme slap in the face to publishers. Once they finally did start paying commissions on used books, they invented new ways to squeeze down payments to publishers, to about 10% of what it was previously. My worst dream would be Google ever merging with Amazon, because Amazon&#8217;s lack of integrity would infect Google. I wish Google would just bury them instead.</p>
<p>The good news is, since day one, customers have always received the product or service they ordered.</p>
<p>Advertisers made sales they wouldn&#8217;t have had otherwise, all based on free traffic. How genius is that?</p>
<p>Affiliate networks got a percentage of each sale, if the advertiser bothered telling them about it.</p>
<p>And if the affiliate program could invent a reason to deprive the publisher, they kept that part of the commission too. And it was no skin off the affiliate program&#8217;s back that their URL&#8217;s were so easy to scam by simply switching pid&#8217;s, in which case they sent credit to the wrong publisher. They knew what was going on, they made only feeble attempts to stop it, and all the while, wink-wink, they were paying the bad guys. The bottom line is, less sophisticated publishers often did not get credit for the sales they generated. If affiliate programs would have had any integrity, and if they would have exerted due diligence to protect a publishers interest against fraud, they&#8217;d have the loyalty of publishers, rather than be ducking for cover now. But in early 2000 they became corrupt. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.</p>
<p>I will admit, it raises my eyebrows that Google won&#8217;t tell publishers how Adsense commissions are calculated. But the bottom line is that Google pays publishers 100 times more money than the affiliate programs ever did. That&#8217;s because Google has the discipline not to screw all the money out of the system, and that&#8217;s why publishers are flocking to them.</p>
<p>Since 2000 I have not trusted the affiliate programs, and I&#8217;m getting extreme joy watching them squirm. Die, Commission Junction, Link Share &amp; Amazon, Die!</p>
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		<title>By: jackmayofferr</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1264620</link>
		<dc:creator>jackmayofferr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

Being a publisher yourself, I am not sure why you think this such a quop for Google?  It is simply a way for them to pay publishers even less for their inventory.  What do they care, they are a volume player, they will make money.  Publishers will loose.  In fact, all of the comments, but one, have talked about the advertiser / network relationship, not the advertiser publisher relationship.  This is the very type of relationship that has helped you maximize revenue on TechCrunch.  I imagine, since you are rep'd by Federated Media, that the majority of your revenue is coming from premuim CPM ads and thay you run relatively little CPM and no CPA.  If you have played in CPA area as a publsiher for any length of time, you would realize that CPA/PPA is a loosing propostion for most publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Being a publisher yourself, I am not sure why you think this such a quop for Google?  It is simply a way for them to pay publishers even less for their inventory.  What do they care, they are a volume player, they will make money.  Publishers will loose.  In fact, all of the comments, but one, have talked about the advertiser / network relationship, not the advertiser publisher relationship.  This is the very type of relationship that has helped you maximize revenue on TechCrunch.  I imagine, since you are rep&#8217;d by Federated Media, that the majority of your revenue is coming from premuim CPM ads and thay you run relatively little CPM and no CPA.  If you have played in CPA area as a publsiher for any length of time, you would realize that CPA/PPA is a loosing propostion for most publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: Cahill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1264262</link>
		<dc:creator>Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1264262</guid>
		<description>@66

Right on!  Why should we as publishers have to bear all the risk, with no say in the pricing.  

If my community is your target audience, you ought to be paying me for access to them.  Not holding me hostage once I deliver them to your site.  After all, I have no control over your ability to convert qualified leads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@66</p>
<p>Right on!  Why should we as publishers have to bear all the risk, with no say in the pricing.  </p>
<p>If my community is your target audience, you ought to be paying me for access to them.  Not holding me hostage once I deliver them to your site.  After all, I have no control over your ability to convert qualified leads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1263612</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1263612</guid>
		<description>The future of big-time online advertising is microtargeted video advertising which is an area that Google is in but can't seem to master. It'll be a smaller player with a but more imagination and chutzpah who'll take the lead here. Any takers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The future of big-time online advertising is microtargeted video advertising which is an area that Google is in but can&#8217;t seem to master. It&#8217;ll be a smaller player with a but more imagination and chutzpah who&#8217;ll take the lead here. Any takers?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1263108</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1263108</guid>
		<description>I think other affiliates network would take a big hit. But as a smart marketer, never put all eggs in one basket :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think other affiliates network would take a big hit. But as a smart marketer, never put all eggs in one basket <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Sears</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1262941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Sears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1262941</guid>
		<description>For web publishers, this seems to be another proverbial screwing by Google. First Adsense with its "I'll give you a share of revenue but won't tell you how much" approach. Now we push even more risk onto the publisher with CPA.

If Google is so smart, why can't they deliver pricing options to the advertiser and give the publishers what they really want--pricing control.

We've figure this one out, not sure why Google cannot. Or maybe they just don't want to.... ;)-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For web publishers, this seems to be another proverbial screwing by Google. First Adsense with its &#8220;I&#8217;ll give you a share of revenue but won&#8217;t tell you how much&#8221; approach. Now we push even more risk onto the publisher with CPA.</p>
<p>If Google is so smart, why can&#8217;t they deliver pricing options to the advertiser and give the publishers what they really want&#8211;pricing control.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve figure this one out, not sure why Google cannot. Or maybe they just don&#8217;t want to&#8230;. ;)-</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260553</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260553</guid>
		<description>Not sure I understand the following:

"The advertiser will of course have an incentive not to confirm the action, but Google will be able to easily adjust for this. Like CPC ads, PPA ads will be ranked by profitability to Google. Google need only calculate the average value of a click to a PPA advertiser, and those ads can then be ranked by profitability."

How does ranking by profitability help adjust for fraud?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I understand the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;The advertiser will of course have an incentive not to confirm the action, but Google will be able to easily adjust for this. Like CPC ads, PPA ads will be ranked by profitability to Google. Google need only calculate the average value of a click to a PPA advertiser, and those ads can then be ranked by profitability.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does ranking by profitability help adjust for fraud?</p>
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		<title>By: brotherlex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260363</link>
		<dc:creator>brotherlex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260363</guid>
		<description>Can anybody say how much commission google would take on CPA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anybody say how much commission google would take on CPA?</p>
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		<title>By: baladhanyuthapani</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260268</link>
		<dc:creator>baladhanyuthapani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/21/digesting-googles-new-ppa-advertising-product/#comment-1260268</guid>
		<description>Hi,

how will they track and pay if a user clicks on the AD??
does this realy works????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>how will they track and pay if a user clicks on the AD??<br />
does this realy works????</p>
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