Comments on: ThinkFree Apps to Get Bigger and Better http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:56 -0800 hourly 1 By: Library clips :: ThinkFree Portable office :: June :: 2007 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1441808 Library clips :: ThinkFree Portable office :: June :: 2007 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:35:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1441808 [...] TechCrunch has a post on ThinkFree taking this very seriously. [...] [...] TechCrunch has a post on ThinkFree taking this very seriously. [...]

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]]> By: Jonathan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1257848 Jonathan Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:39:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1257848 Sorry to repost - i just noticed the link in my previous comment had a period attached to the end. http://www.mphasetech.com/xDSLTVwpaperv_20.doc There that should be better. Sorry to repost – i just noticed the link in my previous comment had a period attached to the end.
http://www.mpha...Vwpaperv_20.doc

There that should be better.

]]> By: Nick Gonzalez http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1257716 Nick Gonzalez Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:59:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1257716 I really appreciate all you guys stopping by to chime in on this. I'm sure we can expect a lot more from the Zoho and Thinkfree teams. This document was a surprising point of comparison I hadn't really thought of before. In the long run, online apps will have to deal with larger data sets in a fast efficient manner, be they Ajax or not. I really appreciate all you guys stopping by to chime in on this. I’m sure we can expect a lot more from the Zoho and Thinkfree teams.

This document was a surprising point of comparison I hadn’t really thought of before.

In the long run, online apps will have to deal with larger data sets in a fast efficient manner, be they Ajax or not.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1257514 Jonathan Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:13:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1257514 Laurent, I am not sure what happened to the document you were looking at. It appeared fine in testing it out the other day, maybe I need my eyesight checked;). Obviously we have work to do. But, let me point you to another one that illustrates our point - www.mphasetech.com/xDSLTVwpaperv_20.doc. The issue you raised is a somewhat complex one in that we actually offer three different technologies - document conversion, AJAX and Java. The technology used in previewing the document online converts the document from .doc format to HTML. Quick Edit (AJAX) and Power Edit (Java) use the document in the original format - .doc. Our Power Edit offers the highest level of MS Office compatibility available. But even there it definitely isn't 100%. I don't think Microsoft could even claim 100% compatibility between different versions of Word. The new version of Quick Edit Write makes a lot of improvements in that area. As for stealing the code...We have been working on Microsoft Office formats since 1999 working directly from the source. So, if any code was stolen I know it wasn't us;). Thanks, Jonathan ThinkFree Laurent,

I am not sure what happened to the document you were looking at. It appeared fine in testing it out the other day, maybe I need my eyesight checked;). Obviously we have work to do. But, let me point you to another one that illustrates our point – http://www.mpha...Vwpaperv_20.doc.

The issue you raised is a somewhat complex one in that we actually offer three different technologies – document conversion, AJAX and Java. The technology used in previewing the document online converts the document from .doc format to HTML. Quick Edit (AJAX) and Power Edit (Java) use the document in the original format – .doc.

Our Power Edit offers the highest level of MS Office compatibility available. But even there it definitely isn’t 100%. I don’t think Microsoft could even claim 100% compatibility between different versions of Word. The new version of Quick Edit Write makes a lot of improvements in that area.

As for stealing the code…We have been working on Microsoft Office formats since 1999 working directly from the source. So, if any code was stolen I know it wasn’t us;).

Thanks,
Jonathan
ThinkFree

]]> By: Ranjith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1256838 Ranjith Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:23:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1256838 Nick : Thanks for raising this. I apologize that we do a poor conversion on complicated documents like double columned ones, documents with Objects linked via OLE , etc. We do have this in our roadmap and will be working on editing, importing and exporting complicated documents down the line. Thanks, Ranjith ZohoWriter Nick :

Thanks for raising this. I apologize that we do a poor conversion on complicated documents like double columned ones, documents with Objects linked via OLE , etc. We do have this in our roadmap and will be working on editing, importing and exporting complicated documents down the line.

Thanks,
Ranjith
ZohoWriter

]]> By: Laurent http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1254180 Laurent Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:03:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1254180 Nick: ThinkFree also has issues rendering your document. http://www.vtsbdc.org/BottomLine040104.doc Try it, you'll see that one of the cell that should be shown on the second page appears duplicated in front of a cell in the first page. Really ugly and unusable. Strangely, both OpenOffice and ThinkFree exhibit the same rendering problems. Which one stole code from the other :) Nick: ThinkFree also has issues rendering your document.
http://www.vtsb...mLine040104.doc

Try it, you’ll see that one of the cell that should be shown on the second page appears duplicated in front of a cell in the first page. Really ugly and unusable.
Strangely, both OpenOffice and ThinkFree exhibit the same rendering problems. Which one stole code from the other :)

]]> By: Laurent http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1253317 Laurent Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:16:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1253317 Interestingly, this DOC also breaks OpenOffice's rendering. Zamzar converts it to PDF without problem, probably because they're using Word itself. It looks like they are using e-pdfconverter.com virtual printer to print the DOC to PDF. Anyway, since OpenOffice doesn't render it, I'm not surprised that Ajax-based online editors also do a poor job. Interestingly, this DOC also breaks OpenOffice’s rendering.
Zamzar converts it to PDF without problem, probably because they’re using Word itself. It looks like they are using e-pdfconverter.com virtual printer to print the DOC to PDF.

Anyway, since OpenOffice doesn’t render it, I’m not surprised that Ajax-based online editors also do a poor job.

]]> By: Nick Gonzalez http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1252433 Nick Gonzalez Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:30:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1252433 www.vtsbdc.org/BottomLine040104.doc http://www.vtsb...mLine040104.doc

]]> By: Laurent http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1252027 Laurent Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:45:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1252027 Nick: could you send the url of the original document? I'm trying to replicate your misfortunes with Zoho, ThinkFree and GDocs. Nick: could you send the url of the original document?
I’m trying to replicate your misfortunes with Zoho, ThinkFree and GDocs.

]]> By: Brian Solis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1251563 Brian Solis Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:53:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1251563 I have experimented with everything, google docs, goffice, approver, Zoho and Thinkfree. I'm a big fan of ThinkFree using their current "power edit" mode. It's just like using MS Office... Also check out viewer.thinkfree.com I have experimented with everything, google docs, goffice, approver, Zoho and Thinkfree. I’m a big fan of ThinkFree using their current “power edit” mode. It’s just like using MS Office… Also check out viewer.thinkfree.com

]]> By: Morgan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1251132 Morgan Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:14:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1251132 I can't even believe these services are marketed like they are with those kinds of limitations. Not that it's the hottest issue to me, but the 512kB limit is a joke. Saved me the time of ever checking them out though, so that's a plus. I can’t even believe these services are marketed like they are with those kinds of limitations. Not that it’s the hottest issue to me, but the 512kB limit is a joke.

Saved me the time of ever checking them out though, so that’s a plus.

]]> By: Don http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1250071 Don Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:40:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1250071 hmm...the sample document seems hopelessly broken on Thinkfree too and not just on Zoho...the content is jumbled up and many parts are overlapping each other...Thinkfree needs to fix this before taking up the challenge of retaining fidelity in the Word-Thinkfree-Word round tripping scenario... hmm…the sample document seems hopelessly broken on Thinkfree too and not just on Zoho…the content is jumbled up and many parts are overlapping each other…Thinkfree needs to fix this before taking up the challenge of retaining fidelity in the Word-Thinkfree-Word round tripping scenario…

]]> By: Oobie Doobie Kanoobie http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1249724 Oobie Doobie Kanoobie Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:28:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/20/thinkfree-apps-to-get-bigger-and-better/#comment-1249724 Cool! We used Thinkfree to extensively to share documents in the early stage of our business. Looking forward to seeing what's new in there! Cool! We used Thinkfree to extensively to share documents in the early stage of our business.

Looking forward to seeing what’s new in there!

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