Comments on: How To Destroy Your Enemy: Demand a Video Apology http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:02:38 -0800 hourly 1 By: Ac http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-2581284 Ac Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:52:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-2581284 Jason Fortuny was the craigslist guy....not Micheal Crook....unless Micheal Crook also did it...Either way the guy is a dick Jason Fortuny was the craigslist guy….not Micheal Crook….unless Micheal Crook also did it…Either way the guy is a dick

]]> By: The Internet’s 10 Most Hated People — ty.rannosaur.us http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-2507519 The Internet’s 10 Most Hated People — ty.rannosaur.us Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:58:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-2507519 [...] If Fortuny is a bag of dicks then Michael Crook is the dick bank where Scrooge McCock swims around in an endless sea of dicks. He is best known for using DMCA takedown notices to harass bloggers that mocked his appearance on Fox News to defend Forsake the Troops, a site that claims troops are overpaid parasites, until a 2007 EFF lawsuit made him literally apologize to the internet. [...] [...] If Fortuny is a bag of dicks then Michael Crook is the dick bank where Scrooge McCock swims around in an endless sea of dicks. He is best known for using DMCA takedown notices to harass bloggers that mocked his appearance on Fox News to defend Forsake the Troops, a site that claims troops are overpaid parasites, until a 2007 EFF lawsuit made him literally apologize to the internet. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 史上最高に馬鹿げた著作権侵害のDMCA通告 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-2136253 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 史上最高に馬鹿げた著作権侵害のDMCA通告 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:32:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-2136253 [...] 何かインターネット上で気に入らない記事を見つけたらDMCA(デジタル・ミレニアム著作権法）による著作権侵害の通告をぶつければ、まず間違いなく削除させることができる。一部のグループ、特にEFFはこういう偽の通告に反撃を試みている。実際、私は一度、DMCA通告問題でEFFはやりすぎではないかと批判したことがある。しかし 多くのケースでEFFその他の団体は偽のDMCA通告から被害者を守るうえで大きな助けになっている。 [...] [...] 何かインターネット上で気に入らない記事を見つけたらDMCA(デジタル・ミレニアム著作権法）による著作権侵害の通告をぶつければ、まず間違いなく削除させることができる。一部のグループ、特にEFFはこういう偽の通告に反撃を試みている。実際、私は一度、DMCA通告問題でEFFはやりすぎではないかと批判したことがある。しかし 多くのケースでEFFその他の団体は偽のDMCA通告から被害者を守るうえで大きな助けになっている。 [...]

]]> By: www.teletubis.info » Blog Archive » Possibly The Most Ridiculous DMCA Take Down Yet http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-2134355 www.teletubis.info » Blog Archive » Possibly The Most Ridiculous DMCA Take Down Yet Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:58:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-2134355 [...] against fake notices, particularly the EFF. In fact, I’ve criticized the EFF in the past for being overzealous in fighting DMCA notices. But in many cases, the EFF and other groups helping people defend against [...] [...] against fake notices, particularly the EFF. In fact, I’ve criticized the EFF in the past for being overzealous in fighting DMCA notices. But in many cases, the EFF and other groups helping people defend against [...]

]]> By: Possibly The Most Ridiculous DMCA Take Down Yet http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-2134215 Possibly The Most Ridiculous DMCA Take Down Yet Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:04:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-2134215 [...] against fake notices, particularly the EFF. In fact, I’ve criticized the EFF in the past for being overzealous in fighting DMCA notices. But in many cases, the EFF and other groups helping people defend against [...] [...] against fake notices, particularly the EFF. In fact, I’ve criticized the EFF in the past for being overzealous in fighting DMCA notices. But in many cases, the EFF and other groups helping people defend against [...]

]]> By: stephen hargrove dot com » Blog Archive » TechCrunch on The EFF http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1435903 stephen hargrove dot com » Blog Archive » TechCrunch on The EFF Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:18:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1435903 [...] commenting on the EFF/Michael Crook settlement, [...] [...] commenting on the EFF/Michael Crook settlement, [...]

]]> By: Ridiculous: One Digg Clone Takes Legal Action Against Another Digg Clone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1411653 Ridiculous: One Digg Clone Takes Legal Action Against Another Digg Clone Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:03:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1411653 [...] This is a perfect case for the EFF to get involved in, and I look forward to seeing the obligatory video apology by GuperGu founder James [...] [...] This is a perfect case for the EFF to get involved in, and I look forward to seeing the obligatory video apology by GuperGu founder James [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1247479 Jason Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:11:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1247479 Wow... thats about all I can say about this guy. I have no idea what his problem is. Maybe he is angry for getting beat with the ugly stick- I dont know. Wow… thats about all I can say about this guy. I have no idea what his problem is. Maybe he is angry for getting beat with the ugly stick- I dont know.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1229441 Andrew Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:50:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1229441 Would it have been better or worse if the EFF had sought a large financial settlement? I'm sure Mr. Crook is pleased that he only got a public scolding for his offenses. And I'm guessing that the EFF chose this remedy as a fitting punishment for the crime. The important thing here is that someone got him to stop. Would it have been better or worse if the EFF had sought a large financial settlement? I’m sure Mr. Crook is pleased that he only got a public scolding for his offenses. And I’m guessing that the EFF chose this remedy as a fitting punishment for the crime.

The important thing here is that someone got him to stop.

]]> By: engtech http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1229206 engtech Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:44:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1229206 Just read through all of the comments and there's key stuff people missed from just reading the article and not the comments: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1223836 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1223899 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1223925 Would love to see the article get update with some of Jeff's comments (notably that the video was his suggestion, not the EFF's) Just read through all of the comments and there’s key stuff people missed from just reading the article and not the comments:

http://www.tech...comment-1223836
http://www.tech...comment-1223899
http://www.tech...comment-1223925

Would love to see the article get update with some of Jeff’s comments (notably that the video was his suggestion, not the EFF’s)

]]> By: Enric http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1228308 Enric Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:18:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1228308 Michael Crook is now promoting eliminating the Fair Use statute: http://www.stopfairuse.info/ Michael Crook's other video on the EFF settlement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWVJG7lr6UE Michael Crook is now promoting eliminating the Fair Use statute:

http://www.stopfairuse.info/

Michael Crook’s other video on the EFF settlement:

http://www.yout...h?v=RWVJG7lr6UE

]]> By: LikeAnIbis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1228016 LikeAnIbis Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:51:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1228016 A really bright guy once said, "What stands in the way, becomes the way." I stand fully behind the EFF and their action in this case. What other group is standing up and saying that we have a right to be happy and pursue the potential that the state of our technology allows us? Whatever his motivation, Crook was attempting to apply a standard of behavior to others that is not logical, or ultimately, enforceable. Or beneficial, for that matter. I can only envision a happy future where both individuals and corporate entities (anyone from the RIAA reading this?) are regularly and publicly brought to account for attempting to control the uncontrollable and to profit themselves thereby. A really bright guy once said, “What stands in the way, becomes the way.” I stand fully behind the EFF and their action in this case. What other group is standing up and saying that we have a right to be happy and pursue the potential that the state of our technology allows us? Whatever his motivation, Crook was attempting to apply a standard of behavior to others that is not logical, or ultimately, enforceable. Or beneficial, for that matter. I can only envision a happy future where both individuals and corporate entities (anyone from the RIAA reading this?) are regularly and publicly brought to account for attempting to control the uncontrollable and to profit themselves thereby.

]]> By: cowardus anonymousus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1227947 cowardus anonymousus Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:30:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1227947 The guy has been completely humiliated in public now, which makes for great content, Great content? Useless content.. he deserves what he gets, but I would call this pretty lame material. Agree with all your other points tho, right on about the opressed/opressor angle. The guy has been completely humiliated in public now, which makes for great content,

Great content? Useless content.. he deserves what he gets, but I would call this pretty lame material. Agree with all your other points tho, right on about the opressed/opressor angle.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1227915 Andrew Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:21:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1227915 The DMCA is already too far reaching as it stands. To allow illegitimate DMCA takdown notices to continue to circulate is unacceptable. I applaude the EFF in their effort to silence these false "intimidators." Who else will defend the small blog or news outlet who revceives one of these notices? Maybe Michael has enough cash to fund his own defense in such cases--most do not. A HUGE thank you to the EFF! The DMCA is already too far reaching as it stands. To allow illegitimate DMCA takdown notices to continue to circulate is unacceptable. I applaude the EFF in their effort to silence these false “intimidators.” Who else will defend the small blog or news outlet who revceives one of these notices? Maybe Michael has enough cash to fund his own defense in such cases–most do not.

A HUGE thank you to the EFF!

]]> By: scott http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1227684 scott Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:12:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1227684 Jeff - I am familiar with the case and personally do not have a problem with the video or the deal the EFF got on your behalf. My minor gripe was with Mike on one hand saying " the creation of this video, it seems to me that they’re lowering themselves to the same level as Crook" whilst at the same time embedding the same video in his post, thereby, by his own line of argument also bringing himself down to that same level. My own view is that there is nothing wrong with the video, and it is a good and effective way of addressing the subject matter. Jeff – I am familiar with the case and personally do not have a problem with the video or the deal the EFF got on your behalf. My minor gripe was with Mike on one hand saying ” the creation of this video, it seems to me that they’re lowering themselves to the same level as Crook” whilst at the same time embedding the same video in his post, thereby, by his own line of argument also bringing himself down to that same level. My own view is that there is nothing wrong with the video, and it is a good and effective way of addressing the subject matter.

]]> By: b5chad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1227460 b5chad Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:07:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1227460 LOL, one tip when making a video of yourself. Shave off your Hitler mustache first!!!! LOL, one tip when making a video of yourself. Shave off your Hitler mustache first!!!!

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1227066 Greg Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:16:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1227066 It seems like a pretty bad precedent to publically humiliate someone, even if they seem to deserve it. It feels like a high schooler thing to do vs. somethingthat was mandated by a rights-protecting nonprofit entity. It seems like a pretty bad precedent to publically humiliate someone, even if they seem to deserve it. It feels like a high schooler thing to do vs. somethingthat was mandated by a rights-protecting nonprofit entity.

]]> By: Raoul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1226844 Raoul Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:15:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1226844 @Ross: :-D @Ross: :-D

]]> By: StartUpCrunch http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1226623 StartUpCrunch Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:10:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1226623 Ross So funny Ross

So funny

]]> By: Ross Parker http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-1226484 Ross Parker Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:32:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1226484 Frankly, removing photos of that face from the public domain is in the public interest. Frankly, removing photos of that face from the public domain is in the public interest.

]]> By: Roosh http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-1226074 Roosh Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:34:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1226074 OWNED!!!! Next up: those perverted justice basement boys ps. what an awkward dude OWNED!!!!

Next up: those perverted justice basement boys

ps. what an awkward dude

]]> By: lemon obrien http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-1225624 lemon obrien Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:26:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1225624 the guy is a freak; look at his forehead; his eyes are even fucked up. Its like he wanted to be the bitch on craigslist cause with looks like that even prositutes have to clkose their eyes. the guy is a freak; look at his forehead; his eyes are even fucked up. Its like he wanted to be the bitch on craigslist cause with looks like that even prositutes have to clkose their eyes.

]]> By: Beth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-1225605 Beth Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:21:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1225605 I'm in total agreement with "Got What He Deserved" (#47). This guy is a real bottom-feeder, and it's more than well-documented all over teh internets. It's not even just this, the Craig's List crap, or the Forsake the Troops filth. The dude's got serious issues, and if you knew them you'd feel not one bit of sympathy for him whatsoever. Thomas Hawk (#46), his street address is already all over the internet. Don't feel bad about someone doing that--it's not like it was outed in your comments. And yes, I (or rather, my hosting service) was sent a bulls.... DMCA notice as well. I’m in total agreement with “Got What He Deserved” (#47). This guy is a real bottom-feeder, and it’s more than well-documented all over teh internets. It’s not even just this, the Craig’s List crap, or the Forsake the Troops filth. The dude’s got serious issues, and if you knew them you’d feel not one bit of sympathy for him whatsoever.

Thomas Hawk (#46), his street address is already all over the internet. Don’t feel bad about someone doing that–it’s not like it was outed in your comments.

And yes, I (or rather, my hosting service) was sent a bulls…. DMCA notice as well.

]]> By: Thomas Hawk http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-1225416 Thomas Hawk Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:37:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1225416 Oh and for the record, thomashawk.com, Zooomr and both our upstream providers were also sent bogus DMCA notices by this guy. Oh and for the record, thomashawk.com, Zooomr and both our upstream providers were also sent bogus DMCA notices by this guy.

]]> By: Thomas Hawk http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-1225386 Thomas Hawk Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:29:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/14/how-to-destroy-your-enemy-demand-a-video-apology/#comment-1225386 Mike, have to disagree with you on this one. I'm personally glad that the EFF is there as a resource and glad that they stepped in in this case. Michael Crook was trying to misuse the DMCA to censor and silence his critics, most of whom were small time bloggers. These people don't always have the resources to pursue legal action of this sort. By threatening people (and his threats worked by the way in some cases, Yahoo pulled down and destroyed not only his photo but commentary that I'd written critical of Crook as well as comments on the issue from a number of other flickr users) Crook was pursuing a path designed to censor his critics. His DMCA claim was clearly false but he was having success with it. If all anyone has to do is misuse the DMCA without fear of repercussion in order to censor something we are all that much worse off. If Crook had sent his DMCA notice to TechCrunch's upstream provider and they ended up turning your blog off you'd be pissed. By pursuing this case the EFF sent a powerful message to those who would think to use the DMCA fraudulently and hopefully prevent further cases of it's misuse in the future. Like you I do kind of feel sorry for the guy. I had to remove a comment from my blog because someone posted the street address of his wife (separated) and daughter. People are obviously pissed at the guy -- but his plight aside (as they say you make your bed you lay in it) it was important for the EFF to send a message to prevent more DMCA abuse from happening to you or me or any other blogger in the future. Mike, have to disagree with you on this one. I’m personally glad that the EFF is there as a resource and glad that they stepped in in this case. Michael Crook was trying to misuse the DMCA to censor and silence his critics, most of whom were small time bloggers. These people don’t always have the resources to pursue legal action of this sort.

By threatening people (and his threats worked by the way in some cases, Yahoo pulled down and destroyed not only his photo but commentary that I’d written critical of Crook as well as comments on the issue from a number of other flickr users) Crook was pursuing a path designed to censor his critics. His DMCA claim was clearly false but he was having success with it.

If all anyone has to do is misuse the DMCA without fear of repercussion in order to censor something we are all that much worse off. If Crook had sent his DMCA notice to TechCrunch’s upstream provider and they ended up turning your blog off you’d be pissed.

By pursuing this case the EFF sent a powerful message to those who would think to use the DMCA fraudulently and hopefully prevent further cases of it’s misuse in the future.

Like you I do kind of feel sorry for the guy. I had to remove a comment from my blog because someone posted the street address of his wife (separated) and daughter. People are obviously pissed at the guy — but his plight aside (as they say you make your bed you lay in it) it was important for the EFF to send a message to prevent more DMCA abuse from happening to you or me or any other blogger in the future.

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