Comments on: This is cool, unless it achieves consciousness and kills us all http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/ Startup and Tech News Fri, 16 May 2008 10:58:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Powerset To Launch Social Network Around Search Engine http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1679139 Powerset To Launch Social Network Around Search Engine Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:21:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1679139 [...] of Powerset natural language results along with video results, keyword results and, interestingly, Freeweb results (the two companies are working together). See the screen shot to the right (click for [...] […] of Powerset natural language results along with video results, keyword results and, interestingly, Freeweb results (the two companies are working together). See the screen shot to the right (click for […]

]]> By: Burningbird » Freebasing, and not the Crack kind http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1645613 Burningbird » Freebasing, and not the Crack kind Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:09:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1645613 [...] Arrington had a promising title to his post, and then dropped the ball by joining into the vast euphoric gasp of [...] […] Arrington had a promising title to his post, and then dropped the ball by joining into the vast euphoric gasp of […]

]]> By: Neues von Freebase » Beitrag » zweinull.cc http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1572693 Neues von Freebase » Beitrag » zweinull.cc Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:22:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1572693 [...] Beitrag anlässlich zum Start des Dienstes veröffentlicht - unter dem fantastischem Titel “Das ist cool - solange bis es Bewusstsein erlangt und uns alle tötet“. Mashable berichtet über die Veröffentlichung der API vor wenigen Tagen, aber die [...] […] Beitrag anlässlich zum Start des Dienstes veröffentlicht - unter dem fantastischem Titel “Das ist cool - solange bis es Bewusstsein erlangt und uns alle tötet“. Mashable berichtet über die Veröffentlichung der API vor wenigen Tagen, aber die […]

]]> By: Swivel: The Toast Of The OECD http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1494595 Swivel: The Toast Of The OECD Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:15:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1494595 [...] by IBM and others gunning for the business (see our original post on Swivel during their beta). Freebase is another natural choice to deposit this kind of date. Whatever happens, the goal of distributing [...] […] by IBM and others gunning for the business (see our original post on Swivel during their beta). Freebase is another natural choice to deposit this kind of date. Whatever happens, the goal of distributing […]

]]> By: Powerset To Launch Social Network Around Search Engine : Forecast-Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1432464 Powerset To Launch Social Network Around Search Engine : Forecast-Blog Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:07:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1432464 [...] of Powerset natural language results along with video results, keyword results and, interestingly, Freeweb results (the two companies are working together). See the screen shot to the right (click for [...] […] of Powerset natural language results along with video results, keyword results and, interestingly, Freeweb results (the two companies are working together). See the screen shot to the right (click for […]

]]> By: Freebase: I'm in... « electronic museum http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1385270 Freebase: I'm in... « electronic museum Sat, 19 May 2007 21:03:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1385270 [...] “possibly the most exciting thing to happen to the web for some time”. Or, as TechCrunch put it: “This is cool, unless it achieves consciousness and kills us [...] […] “possibly the most exciting thing to happen to the web for some time”. Or, as TechCrunch put it: “This is cool, unless it achieves consciousness and kills us […]

]]> By: FreebasePortal » Blog Archive » Kingsley Idehen’s Blog Data Space: Web Databases on the rise http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1289956 FreebasePortal » Blog Archive » Kingsley Idehen’s Blog Data Space: Web Databases on the rise Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:06:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1289956 [...] 2.0 commentators such as Mike Arrington, and as mentioned above,Tim O’Reilly, both blogged about the imminent release of Freebase [...] […] 2.0 commentators such as Mike Arrington, and as mentioned above,Tim O’Reilly, both blogged about the imminent release of Freebase […]

]]> By: carolg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1219032 carolg Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:18:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1219032 I'm using safari which the website claims is unsupported but I can still login. They restricted access to the service to stop the servers becoming overwhelmed (for the alpha). I think total access (for the moment) is limited to 6000. I’m using safari which the website claims is unsupported but I can still login. They restricted access to the service to stop the servers becoming overwhelmed (for the alpha). I think total access (for the moment) is limited to 6000.

]]> By: Nodalities http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1217560 Nodalities Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:49:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1217560 <strong>Web 3.0 ?...</strong> Having read the title, many of you are doubtless scrabbling desperately for your keyboard or mouse, intent on moving rapidly away from this latest vacuous piece of opportunistic marketing fluff, but please stay your hand a moment as there...... Web 3.0 ?…

Having read the title, many of you are doubtless scrabbling desperately for your keyboard or mouse, intent on moving rapidly away from this latest vacuous piece of opportunistic marketing fluff, but please stay your hand a moment as there……

]]> By: Sean Ness http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1213559 Sean Ness Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:39:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1213559 FYI...Metaweb will have their first public unveiling at the March 21st STIRR event in Palo Alto - http://www.stirr.net/event/12. FYI…Metaweb will have their first public unveiling at the March 21st STIRR event in Palo Alto - http://www.stirr.net/event/12.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1212947 John Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:48:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1212947 The concept (I think) implemented on a much smaller scale... <a href="http://www.wyaworks.com/wyabase/index.jsp" rel="nofollow">WyaBase</a> using Information Magnets... The idea was to use WIKIs and information magnets to collect and tag all kinds of data and let them build their own relationships... then create feeds and applications out of the relationships built... The concept (I think) implemented on a much smaller scale… WyaBase using Information Magnets… The idea was to use WIKIs and information magnets to collect and tag all kinds of data and let them build their own relationships… then create feeds and applications out of the relationships built…

]]> By: Anotherview http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1212189 Anotherview Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:19:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1212189 Intriguing technical problems don't exist in social vacuums. Questions of who controls?, to what end?, at what social cost?, etc. are not techie's strong points. The simple fact of false information -- a big enough problem in "real" life, let alone virtual -- and its power is conveniently ignored by the commentators so far. The human propensity to centralize and dominate has been touched upon as well as the undercurent of commercial exploitation of "free" semantic webs. These considerations mute any enthusiasm I might have to a pensive "Hmmm." I'll do what I can to keep my own information under my own control for my own ends, thank you. Intriguing technical problems don’t exist in social vacuums. Questions of who controls?, to what end?, at what social cost?, etc. are not techie’s strong points. The simple fact of false information — a big enough problem in “real” life, let alone virtual — and its power is conveniently ignored by the commentators so far. The human propensity to centralize and dominate has been touched upon as well as the undercurent of commercial exploitation of “free” semantic webs. These considerations mute any enthusiasm I might have to a pensive “Hmmm.” I’ll do what I can to keep my own information under my own control for my own ends, thank you.

]]> By: Rajiv http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1211215 Rajiv Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:25:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1211215 It is high time to clean up WEB MESS. I presume your approch is correct. Hope Google and Yahoo will contribute their existing web powers to you, so that ultimate success is possible with your efforts. I had a similar dream for advertisers "a competitive market place which will result equal opportunities". I am working towards COPYRIGHTS / ROYALTIES. When I find a correct party to finance, project will go ahead. Wish you all the very best for your project. It is high time to clean up WEB MESS. I presume your approch is correct. Hope Google and Yahoo will contribute their existing web powers to you, so that ultimate success is possible with your efforts.

I had a similar dream for advertisers “a competitive market place which will result equal opportunities”. I am working towards COPYRIGHTS / ROYALTIES. When I find a correct party to finance, project will go ahead.

Wish you all the very best for your project.

]]> By: Steven Ickman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1207621 Steven Ickman Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:32:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1207621 Structured content is good... This is a subject that's near and dear to my heart and while I applaud what project like Google Base & Freebase are trying to do I'm not sure that this is the best long term approach. As #41 stated, the problem I have with this is that they're trying to centralize everything into silos of structured content. It seems like this goes against what the web is all about which is de-centralized information. A better approach would be to crawl this content from websites. And yes looking for Microformats on a page could be one approach but the problem I have with Microformats is that the types and their structure have to be defined by a committee. What I like about Google Base in particular is the democratic approach they take to defining types. Types are defined by the masses and can evolve over time. Google Base, Freebase, or one of these projects should break their data structures out to an open file format that can be authored by rich client & web apps, uploaded & linked to by web pages, and crawled & indexed by Google, Live, Yahoo, Vista (so I can search for it locally) or any other search engine. -Steve Structured content is good…

This is a subject that’s near and dear to my heart and while I applaud what project like Google Base & Freebase are trying to do I’m not sure that this is the best long term approach. As #41 stated, the problem I have with this is that they’re trying to centralize everything into silos of structured content. It seems like this goes against what the web is all about which is de-centralized information.

A better approach would be to crawl this content from websites. And yes looking for Microformats on a page could be one approach but the problem I have with Microformats is that the types and their structure have to be defined by a committee. What I like about Google Base in particular is the democratic approach they take to defining types. Types are defined by the masses and can evolve over time.

Google Base, Freebase, or one of these projects should break their data structures out to an open file format that can be authored by rich client & web apps, uploaded & linked to by web pages, and crawled & indexed by Google, Live, Yahoo, Vista (so I can search for it locally) or any other search engine.

-Steve

]]> By: dangit http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1201626 dangit Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:36:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1201626 Drama 3.0: Hey, if you want to go in on it together, I'm quite sure we could do it better than these guys. I have the domain name, I have the capital. I need to get the team together. And since they are giving away all their content, we could build on that, and do it better. What do you say? Drama 3.0: Hey, if you want to go in on it together, I’m quite sure we could do it better than these guys.

I have the domain name, I have the capital. I need to get the team together. And since they are giving away all their content, we could build on that, and do it better.

What do you say?

]]> By: foobar http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1200030 foobar Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:12:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1200030 How are they going to deal with the obvious trademark violation of the prior work by the same name that is here: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~jjf/freebase/ How are they going to deal with the obvious trademark violation of the prior work by the same name that is here: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~jjf/freebase/

]]> By: Niko Neugebauer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1199501 Niko Neugebauer Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:55:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1199501 It will be interesting watching for this one. Though copying the google concept and moto isn't really good for karma, nor it will help to get people's attention since it is something similar - that means only those who are unsatisfied with the current services providers will be interested in trying it out. It will be interesting watching for this one.
Though copying the google concept and moto isn’t really good for karma, nor it will help to get people’s attention since it is something similar - that means only those who are unsatisfied with the current services providers will be interested in trying it out.

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197872 David Mackey Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:12:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197872 Hmmm..."Open" is a great thing, though I'm still not sure about the usefulness of these "base" products. Though, I felt the same way about the original Google CSE projects. Now I think they are great (though still in need of much more refinement). Hmmm…”Open” is a great thing, though I’m still not sure about the usefulness of these “base” products. Though, I felt the same way about the original Google CSE projects. Now I think they are great (though still in need of much more refinement).

]]> By: sm http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197795 sm Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:54:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197795 Google may be, in the process of making a MEGA change in the way todays Internet is working....with some of its key aquisitions... 1. Fiber Optic and WiFi pages http://news.com.com/Google+wants+dark+fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html 2. Advanced text search algorithm invented by Ori Allon http://news.com.com/Google+wants+dark+fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html e.t.c IF it creates a global network and controls what to put on that internet (controlled environment internet, cinternet or centernet) and combines all of worlds related data and builds in a structured way then no viruses, spyware, OS, nothing...and no competetor and no need of semantic web just a thought! Google may be, in the process of making a MEGA change in the way todays Internet is working….with some of its key aquisitions…
1. Fiber Optic and WiFi pages
http://news.com.com/Google+wan.....37392.html
2. Advanced text search algorithm invented by Ori Allon
http://news.com.com/Google+wan.....37392.html
e.t.c

IF it creates a global network and controls what to put on that internet (controlled environment internet, cinternet or centernet) and combines all of worlds related data and builds in a structured way then no viruses, spyware, OS, nothing…and no competetor and no need of semantic web

just a thought!

]]> By: Bessed http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197272 Bessed Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:33:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1197272 <strong>Freebase.com...</strong> Ten of the best sites about the Web site Freebase. Know of another site that should be listed here? Leave your suggestion at the bottom of this page. 1. Freebase - Web site aims to build “an open, shared database of the world’s knowledge&#8... Freebase.com…

Ten of the best sites about the Web site Freebase. Know of another site that should be listed here? Leave your suggestion at the bottom of this page.
1. Freebase - Web site aims to build “an open, shared database of the world’s knowledge&#8…

]]> By: TechYob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196275 TechYob Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:10:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196275 @Jared - good call, cyc is an impressive project. @Mike #38 - I agree that the first bottleneck they will come across will be scaling database access to any reasonable set of users. This Wikipedia entry provides an excellent overview of existing efforts in this space http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy. @Jared - good call, cyc is an impressive project.

@Mike #38 - I agree that the first bottleneck they will come across will be scaling database access to any reasonable set of users.

This Wikipedia entry provides an excellent overview of existing efforts in this space http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy.

]]> By: Jeff LaPorte http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196195 Jeff LaPorte Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:52:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196195 I believe there are some intriguing connections between the Freebase model and Creative Commons licensing - together they are greater than the sum of their parts. See my post at: http://community.eqo.com/blog/jeff/freebase_the_best_thing_to_happen_to_the_creative_commons_since_lawrence_lessig">http://community.eqo.com/blog/jeff/freebase_the_best_thing_to_happen_to_the_creative_commons_since_lawrence_lessig - Jeff LaPorte I believe there are some intriguing connections between the Freebase model and Creative Commons licensing - together they are greater than the sum of their parts.

See my post at:
http://community.eqo.com/blog/.....nce_lessig“>http://community.eqo.com/blog/jeff/freebase_the_best_thing_to_happen_to_the_creative_commons_since_lawrence_lessig

- Jeff LaPorte

]]> By: Chris Saad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196188 Chris Saad Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:51:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196188 The problem I have with this is that It seems to to be counter intuitive to a distributed web. It would make more sense if it was done by a search engine/web crawler that understands microformats and semantic analysis of unstructured data. More here: http://www.touchstonelive.com/blog/2007/03/freebase-centralized-control-of.html The problem I have with this is that It seems to to be counter intuitive to a distributed web.

It would make more sense if it was done by a search engine/web crawler that understands microformats and semantic analysis of unstructured data.

More here: http://www.touchstonelive.com/.....ol-of.html

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196106 David Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:31:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1196106 It's pretty clear that information was going to move in this direction, but I am surprised at the speed at which it is occuring. Google should be slapping their foreheads for a lot of things - one of which is whatever reconfiguration they're doing with local search results. Check out the forum on webmasterworld. No offence - I would have commented if you had covered it. I'm curious how much access Freebase is going to give - or if its another "let's all build it and then I'll just use it" project of the Tech500. I hope to see some discussion on ethics as we move into the new web. It’s pretty clear that information was going to move in this direction, but I am surprised at the speed at which it is occuring. Google should be slapping their foreheads for a lot of things - one of which is whatever reconfiguration they’re doing with local search results. Check out the forum on webmasterworld. No offence - I would have commented if you had covered it.

I’m curious how much access Freebase is going to give - or if its another “let’s all build it and then I’ll just use it” project of the Tech500. I hope to see some discussion on ethics as we move into the new web.

]]> By: Jared Friedman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1195493 Jared Friedman Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:09:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/#comment-1195493 Check out http://www.cyc.com to see a group of people who have been working on a pretty similar idea for 20 years and >$100M of funding. I'm not affiliated with Cycorp, but I think it deserves a mention along with this post. Check out http://www.cyc.com to see a group of people who have been working on a pretty similar idea for 20 years and >$100M of funding. I’m not affiliated with Cycorp, but I think it deserves a mention along with this post.

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