Comments on: Talking Apollo with Kevin Lynch at Adobe Engage http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:36:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Best Apollo Demos http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1422127 Best Apollo Demos Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:09:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1422127 [...] were a bunch of product demos today at Adobe’s Engage event, but there were a few that stood out and should have a big impact on the startup world. They also [...] [...] were a bunch of product demos today at Adobe’s Engage event, but there were a few that stood out and should have a big impact on the startup world. They also [...]

]]> By: Creattica - Flash » Blog Archive » Some news from Adobe Engage http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1358121 Creattica - Flash » Blog Archive » Some news from Adobe Engage Wed, 02 May 2007 10:46:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1358121 [...] just came across a post from Ryan Stewart on TechCrunch.com about the Adobe Engage event that is currently on in San Francisco and being attended by some very [...] [...] just came across a post from Ryan Stewart on TechCrunch.com about the Adobe Engage event that is currently on in San Francisco and being attended by some very [...]

]]> By: Steven http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1240201 Steven Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:07:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1240201 I love this forum because people so often ask the questions that I would. With this post, however, I actually agree that I’m not as worried about the revenue. So many companies these days play what I call the “YouTube Lottery.” Everyone knows about the crazy money YouTube got, but not much is written (even on TechCrunch) about the 100s of companies that made it nowhere, They didn’t win the lottery the way that YouTube did.http://www.xmasdownload.net I love this forum because people so often ask the questions that I would. With this post, however, I actually agree that I’m not as worried about the revenue. So many companies these days play what I call the “YouTube Lottery.” Everyone knows about the crazy money YouTube got, but not much is written (even on TechCrunch) about the 100s of companies that made it nowhere, They didn’t win the lottery the way that YouTube did.http://www.xmasdownload.net

]]> By: KJ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1143182 KJ Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:50:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1143182 Andy, you really don't seem to have a grasp on Apollo nor basic computer security. What is to stop anyone generating a keylogger in any development platform to send info to a remote server? Instead of focusing on that you should be looking at the positive potential that Apollo is going to bring to developers who want to take applications from the web and onto the desktop but which also make full use of the advantages of both web and desktop environments. I can't wait to get a hold of this. Andy, you really don’t seem to have a grasp on Apollo nor basic computer security. What is to stop anyone generating a keylogger in any development platform to send info to a remote server? Instead of focusing on that you should be looking at the positive potential that Apollo is going to bring to developers who want to take applications from the web and onto the desktop but which also make full use of the advantages of both web and desktop environments.

I can’t wait to get a hold of this.

]]> By: Howard Rauscher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1083058 Howard Rauscher Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:53:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1083058 The only support for storage is XML? So there would no way to implement application update functionality. For example, I want to update the javascript that my apollo app is using offline. I understand the rich use of the internet while the computer has an active internet connection, but once disconnected will the app use the most recent version of a script or default to one packaged with the apollo app. Also, does anyone know if the apollo team has sent out pre beta releases out yet. I applied the other day from the ajaxian blog. --Howard The only support for storage is XML? So there would no way to implement application update functionality. For example, I want to update the javascript that my apollo app is using offline. I understand the rich use of the internet while the computer has an active internet connection, but once disconnected will the app use the most recent version of a script or default to one packaged with the apollo app.

Also, does anyone know if the apollo team has sent out pre beta releases out yet. I applied the other day from the ajaxian blog.

–Howard

]]> By: Peter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1082098 Peter Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:05:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1082098 "Peter, I don’t think you can run ColdFusion like that." Thanks Ryan Stewart. So... if I programmed using .NET I could do this but Adobe isn't providing a platform to do this?! I don't mind even having to pay a $10 per seat licensing fee to run ColdFusion on the desktop EASILY (for a beginning user)! “Peter, I don’t think you can run ColdFusion like that.”

Thanks Ryan Stewart. So… if I programmed using .NET I could do this but Adobe isn’t providing a platform to do this?! I don’t mind even having to pay a $10 per seat licensing fee to run ColdFusion on the desktop EASILY (for a beginning user)!

]]> By: Ryan Stewart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075278 Ryan Stewart Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:40:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075278 Peter, I don't think you can run ColdFusion like that. Nick, I believe they're still working on the specifics around the security model, so they haven't nailed it down. I think they're also still soliciting feedback on it. Peter, I don’t think you can run ColdFusion like that.

Nick, I believe they’re still working on the specifics around the security model, so they haven’t nailed it down. I think they’re also still soliciting feedback on it.

]]> By: saran http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075193 saran Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:32:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075193 Ryan When I was developing a conferencing application few years ago, I used Client & Server side FCS objects to stream data (Text/Audio/Video), both in real time and on demand. I am not clear whether it is possible to do the same thing using Apollo platform, I guess, its not possible in Apollo 1.0. kind rgrds saran Ryan
When I was developing a conferencing application few years ago, I used Client & Server side FCS objects to stream data (Text/Audio/Video), both in real time and on demand. I am not clear whether it is possible to do the same thing using Apollo platform, I guess, its not possible in Apollo 1.0.

kind rgrds
saran

]]> By: Bill Berry http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075165 Bill Berry Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:27:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075165 This is administrivia, but since TechCrunch posts are written by several different people, it would be really helpful if the name of each author were included in the RSS feed. We shouldn't have to click-through to figure that out. Thanks. This is administrivia, but since TechCrunch posts are written by several different people, it would be really helpful if the name of each author were included in the RSS feed. We shouldn’t have to click-through to figure that out. Thanks.

]]> By: Nik Cubrilovic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075038 Nik Cubrilovic Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:13:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075038 "They’re making sure that Apollo can’t wreak havoc (it won’t be able to write to or delete system folders and each Apollo application is sandboxed so that Apollo applications can’t steal data from other Apollo applications)." Sounds eerily familiar.. "A persistent question for the presenters has been “how does Apollo help you” and the main answer seems to be file system access." The security model here isn't clear - can it or can't it read/write any/all/some local/system files/folders ? “They’re making sure that Apollo can’t wreak havoc (it won’t be
able to write to or delete system folders and each Apollo application is sandboxed so that Apollo applications can’t steal data from other Apollo applications).”

Sounds eerily familiar..

“A persistent question for the presenters has been “how does Apollo help you” and the main answer seems to be file system access.”

The security model here isn’t clear - can it or can’t it read/write any/all/some local/system files/folders ?

]]> By: Wes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075036 Wes Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:13:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075036 Anything that makes it easier for developers is welcome. You can do so much these days especially around XML but the effort that is sometimes required to do that is not worthwhile. Anything that makes it easier for developers is welcome. You can do so much these days especially around XML but the effort that is sometimes required to do that is not worthwhile.

]]> By: Peter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075024 Peter Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:12:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1075024 With Apollo, can I run Codlfusion code on the local machine without a "Codlfusion server licence"? Also, can I run / link my application with the free desktop version of MS SQL? With Apollo, can I run Codlfusion code on the local machine without a “Codlfusion server licence”? Also, can I run / link my application with the free desktop version of MS SQL?

]]> By: Ryan Stewart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074917 Ryan Stewart Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:58:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074917 Hey Saran, yes, you can, but you won't be able to take that content online. But if you're looking at streaming video to an Apollo application, that's definitely possible as I understand it. Hey Saran, yes, you can, but you won’t be able to take that content online. But if you’re looking at streaming video to an Apollo application, that’s definitely possible as I understand it.

]]> By: saran http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074728 saran Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:33:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074728 Ryan, I would like to know, is it possible to use FCS (Media server) framework with Apollo? Kind rgrds saran Ryan,
I would like to know, is it possible to use FCS (Media server) framework with Apollo?

Kind rgrds
saran

]]> By: Ryan Stewart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074724 Ryan Stewart Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:32:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074724 Jason, I think that's an interesting question, and one up for discussion. XUL is a great platform, and I think how it and Apollo compete is something worth exploring in depth. Jason, I think that’s an interesting question, and one up for discussion. XUL is a great platform, and I think how it and Apollo compete is something worth exploring in depth.

]]> By: Ryan Stewart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074655 Ryan Stewart Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:22:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074655 Sorry guys, my fault. Release is first half of this year. There is an Apollo book that is shipping for the public beta and it's shipping March 31st, so the public release should be before that sometime. Sorry guys, my fault. Release is first half of this year. There is an Apollo book that is shipping for the public beta and it’s shipping March 31st, so the public release should be before that sometime.

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074538 Jason Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:08:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074538 What is the advantage of using Apollo over Mozilla's XUL plaform? XUL is multiplatform as well. What is the advantage of using Apollo over Mozilla’s XUL plaform? XUL is multiplatform as well.

]]> By: Mike Potter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074504 Mike Potter Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:03:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074504 There's an Apollo Camp that is sold out in a few weeks, with speculation that we might see the official bits come out there. http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh/archives/2007/02/announcing_apol.html Mike There’s an Apollo Camp that is sold out in a few weeks, with speculation that we might see the official bits come out there.

http://weblogs.macromedia.com/....._apol.html

Mike

]]> By: collis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074487 collis Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074487 Seems like a good idea to not allow access to native apps, cross-OS performance really is the name of the game. Without that Apollo is an interesting but ultimately not that amazing utility. With the ability to produce once and run anywhere on the other hand... well potentially Apollo could be turning point or at the very least a herald for a new way of looking at the role of OSes in the future. I feel like we've been waiting for quite some time though - as Darren says above me - for a preview release or beta. I suppose all things in time... Seems like a good idea to not allow access to native apps, cross-OS performance really is the name of the game. Without that Apollo is an interesting but ultimately not that amazing utility. With the ability to produce once and run anywhere on the other hand… well potentially Apollo could be turning point or at the very least a herald for a new way of looking at the role of OSes in the future.

I feel like we’ve been waiting for quite some time though - as Darren says above me - for a preview release or beta. I suppose all things in time…

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074474 Andy Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:00:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074474 No interest to use it - and certainly no interest to let flash install/do anything to my OS without my knowledge. The sorts of applications that can be created from Web/Direct OS integration is concerning and something that I would not working on my PC mainly for the data that it could collect. A simple keylogger would be easy to create with Apollo then what? Everything I type gets sent to some server, for a review.........No Thanks Thank god for Zonealarm - Apollo will be shut out good and proper. No interest to use it - and certainly no interest to let flash install/do anything to my OS without my knowledge.

The sorts of applications that can be created from Web/Direct OS integration is concerning and something that I would not working on my PC mainly for the data that it could collect.

A simple keylogger would be easy to create with Apollo then what? Everything I type gets sent to some server, for a review………No Thanks

Thank god for Zonealarm - Apollo will be shut out good and proper.

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074468 John Dowdell Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:59:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074468 Darren, that's true... there has been increasing public guidance over the months about the Apollo project, and today's event was preparatory to the initial public release. More info, as it arrives: http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo:developerfaq#When_will_Apollo_be_released.3F http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh jd/adobe Darren, that’s true… there has been increasing public guidance over the months about the Apollo project, and today’s event was preparatory to the initial public release. More info, as it arrives:
http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/ind.....eleased.3F
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh

jd/adobe

]]> By: veritas http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074397 veritas Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:52:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074397 So... when can we developers play with it? So… when can we developers play with it?

]]> By: Darren Stuart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074376 Darren Stuart Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:50:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/27/talking-apollo-with-kevin-lynch-at-adobe-engage/#comment-1074376 still no preview release or beta yet... still no preview release or beta yet…

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