Comments on: There is no YouTube Filter; It’s AudibleMagic

By: Charles U. Farley

Charles U. Farley — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:35:21 +0000

This so called fingerprint audio technology will have it’s fingerprint tracking sanded it off. It will be hacked. In theory, the audiable magic will track by musical notes. If our music uploads corespond to the music notes and frequency of hz in the track as audiable magic detects, then of course it can be filtered. Right now youtube is the test tube for this science experiment of hacking. Soon Audiable magic will end up like Macrovision, A laughing stalk.

By: YouTube Tries a Little Harder to Protect Copyright Holders

YouTube Tries a Little Harder to Protect Copyright Holders — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:18:19 +0000

[...] which has developed this new image recognition technology internally, will continue to use Audible Magic for detecting copyrighted audio in video [...]

By: YouTube To Test Copyright Screening Technology

YouTube To Test Copyright Screening Technology — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:19:36 +0000

[...] move by YouTube to implement its own copyright screening platform comes despite reports in February that YouTube had abandoned development plans and were set to exclusively use the Audible Magic [...]

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By: David Mackey

David Mackey — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:27:51 +0000

I’m not sure that the content networks are going to be as happy as they think they are when their content is removed from YouTube. I don’t use YouTube very often, just don’t have the time to waste. But some of the amateur productions being put out are quite entertaining and could easily replace some network shows.
For example, sitcoms, and comedy news shows come to mind.

By: A ver si me pagan...

A ver si me pagan... — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:10:47 +0000

AudioScribe…

Hace unos días leía en el New York Times la noticia de la aparición de un nuevo software relacionado con los nuevos modelos de búsqueda: la gente de Audible Magic habían conseguido desarrollar un software que, extrayendo un clip de dos minutos de …

By: brea

brea — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:11:30 +0000

That’s the understatment of the year.

By: Jeremy Turig

Jeremy Turig — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:08:44 +0000

I think google needs to somehow broker a deal with the media companies, otherwise youtube may become an unneeded commidity. Sure many people like to go on youtube to watch other people’s randomness, but many more go on there only to see music videos, tv clippings, commercials, and other copyrighted materials.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:43:04 +0000

“…either a ruse to buy time or a failed effort that has collapsed under pressure today.”

Or, a factual statement and the in-house filtering is yet to come. In the meantime, why not mitigate litigation and attrition by employing a respected solution?

By: Drama 2.0

Drama 2.0 — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:37:15 +0000

“With this move they’ve removed themselves as the target of litigation about copyright.”

Jacob: you can never remove yourself as a target for litigation. Anybody can sue anybody. I could sue you and have no legitimate cause, but you’ll still have to defend yourself. I don’t believe the launch of an effective filtering technology would eliminate YouTube’s liability for past infringements. It would be an ugly legal battle for sure.

The biggest problem for YouTube is that we all know that copyrighted content is the largest draw for the majority of YouTube users. Once that content is no longer freely accessible on YouTube, there’s a real possibility that people will move on. Napster 2.0 anybody? And of course, if AudibleMagic’s technology results in legitimate content being filtered, there’s always the chance that content creators will become dissatisfied and leave. YouTube’s success is due in part to first-mover advantage, but also because of the Wild West user experience where anything goes. Remove that and you potentially remove a lot of the appeal of the service.

I think the copyright filtering issue is going to be hanging over YouTube for awhile regardless of this announcement but the bigger question is why YouTube has been so ineffective at signing deals to obtain the content people want. When Viacom signs a deal with Joost to license content, it can’t easily be said that Viacom is just an evil corporation that is anti-user and won’t work with anybody. It appears that Google’s arrogance and greed are the primary factors. See:

http://www.cnet...-6695314-1.html

Google might want to consider hiring some strategists and negotiation experts and let them run the show when it comes to these types of deals as opposed to letting arrogant executives lead the way.

By: Michi Knows

Michi Knows — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:24:10 +0000

YouTube Developments: Who’s Using Who…

So there are a few notable developments regarding YouTube. YouTube’s business developments aren’t all positive, but its market share is continuing to grow. The latest numbers indicate a 56.38% market share, a market share increase…

By: Marshall Kirkpatrick

Marshall Kirkpatrick — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:40 +0000

Mr.Smith – just ask the subject of your parody for permission! the jester was always the most subversive person in the castle anyway – good riddance!

By: Mr. Smith

Mr. Smith — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:05:54 +0000

I would like to see the algorithm that AudibleMagic has written that can tell when my use of copywritten material is used in a parody video that I created and therefore a legitimate use of the content under Fair Use.

By: Tester23

Tester23 — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:32:25 +0000

I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again – it remains to be seen whether these technologies will actually work. We have not seen any of these technologies deployed on a large enough scale to verify whether they will work, and to see what kind of false-positive ratio they will have on a large scale. Even if they have a 10% false positive ratio, I think there will be a backlash from users, since presumably a majority of the most active ones will be caught in this filtering net at some point and then take their content to other upcoming sites that do not implement filtering. Face it, video sites are a dime-a-dozen now, and it doesn’t take too long to switch sites. YouTube has achieved critical mass because it has identified itself with the regular guy. When they start doing filtering on a massive scale, they will be seen as yet another corporation barring people from doing whatever the hell it is they want to do online.

By: dreadsword

dreadsword — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:45:35 +0000

YouTube might not be a technology company, but Google is – or at least was. You’d thing the experts at analyzing, sorting, and storing massive amounts of data would have been able to crack content identification and rights management without having to go outside. Perhaps it was time pressure? But did Google have nothing in place on GVideo? Weird.

This post is heavily slantted:
http://slantt.n...ts-audiblemagic

By: Mitch

Mitch — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:31:50 +0000

YouTube can’t actually filter the pirated content until the content owner submits the audio track for fingerprinting.

Unless YouTube is playing on recording everything broadcast to generate their own fingerprints, putting the onus on the content owner to have to spend time and money inorder to prevent YouTube from redistributing their media doesn’t seem viable in the longrun.

And then this isn’t much different from requiring content owners from manually requesting that their media be removed, is it?

By: Jacob Levy

Jacob Levy — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:23:54 +0000

Everyone is missing the point: YouTube does not care about copyright, they care about LITIGATION regarding copyright. With this move they’ve removed themselves as the target of litigation about copyright. It’s a smart move. I also believe they genuinely were developing an in-house solution, but because it wasn’t going to be as good as a commercially available alternative that many others use, it just didn’t make sense to continue with that rather than buy into the commercially available option.

By: Todd

Todd — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:55:26 +0000

Heres the original TechCrunch post about Google and their “audio listening”:

http://www.tech...extual-content/

…but how easy is this to hack? How much altering do I need to do the copyrighted video’s audio track to fool the filter?

By: Chris Dodge

Chris Dodge — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:50:26 +0000

Everyone knew YouTube was not a technology company, just a systems integrator. So, yes, Google must have known that and probably didn’t care. They wanted to buy a very strong consumer video Brand, which YouTube was/is.

By: lonelybloggers

lonelybloggers — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:39:54 +0000

I can’t wait to see how this plays out and what impact it has on % of video on YouTube …

By: Tim Owens

Tim Owens — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:14:33 +0000

As to whether or not Google knew that Youtube was bluffing on the development of filtering technology, I would like to think when you’re making an offer for 1.6 Billion dollars they had to be pretty transparent about what they did and did not have in the works. So Google was most likely in on the smoke and mirrors. Will Audible Magic be added to GV as well?

By: Rajeev Vashisht

Rajeev Vashisht — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:42:03 +0000

Looks like Mafia behaviour from companies, govts, media, Army and Police is order of the day.

To conduct business one has to be businesslike.

http://www.tekn...ld.blogspot.com

By: John / SocialNext

John / SocialNext — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:34:13 +0000

Back in the day, I was part of a dotcom that was purchased by another.

We had “a huge technology” (that we didn’t)

They had “a huge technology” (that they didn’t)

After they merged it was apparent that no one had anything they claimed to.

I wonder if Google bought YouTube with the idea (or promise) they had this filtering technology, only to buy them and discover they didn’t.

By: visible.mobi

visible.mobi — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:10:22 +0000

I agree with Jacob. I feel they are just playing it safe.