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	<title>Comments on: Mozes SMS Service Raises $5m</title>
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		<title>By: Mozes Raises $11.5 Million for SMS-Based Communities</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-2294265</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozes Raises $11.5 Million for SMS-Based Communities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] round brings the company&#8217;s total to $16.5 million, with a Series A of $5 million having been raised in February 2007.   CrunchBase Information   Mozes  Information provided by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] round brings the company&#8217;s total to $16.5 million, with a Series A of $5 million having been raised in February 2007.   CrunchBase Information   Mozes  Information provided by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: larryman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1052254</link>
		<dc:creator>larryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO MUCH HAT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THERE GO WHERE OTHERS WOULDN&#039;T. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD AT ANALYSIS. GOOD FOR YOU. KEEP ANALYSING WHILE OTHERS MAKE MONEY.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.THOSE WHO MAKE HISTORY AND DOES WHO WRITE ABOUT IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO MUCH HAT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THERE GO WHERE OTHERS WOULDN&#8217;T. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD AT ANALYSIS. GOOD FOR YOU. KEEP ANALYSING WHILE OTHERS MAKE MONEY.</p>
<p>THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.THOSE WHO MAKE HISTORY AND DOES WHO WRITE ABOUT IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Basicity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1030532</link>
		<dc:creator>Basicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great domain name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great domain name!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1028333</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really understand why there are so many people bashing this. SMS in the US is years behind Europe and Asia. Clearly Mozes is raising money because they have no business model yet. By giving it away free, they are simply building a user base. They also do not allow commercial applications if my memory serves me.

We have a similar service for businesses at http://www.mobilemarketing.net. SMS based mobile marketing is on the RISE here in the U.S. SMS is fast, simple, and makes any advertising medium interactive.

The real world application is the interaction with the company or brand, and the follow-up marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why there are so many people bashing this. SMS in the US is years behind Europe and Asia. Clearly Mozes is raising money because they have no business model yet. By giving it away free, they are simply building a user base. They also do not allow commercial applications if my memory serves me.</p>
<p>We have a similar service for businesses at <a href="http://www.mobilemarketing.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.mobilemarketing.net'>http://www.mobilemarketing.net</a>. SMS based mobile marketing is on the RISE here in the U.S. SMS is fast, simple, and makes any advertising medium interactive.</p>
<p>The real world application is the interaction with the company or brand, and the follow-up marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: steve campbel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1027390</link>
		<dc:creator>steve campbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use www.create-ringtone.com to create and send FREE custom ringtones, wallpaper, mp3 and video files to cell phones around the world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use <a href="http://www.create-ringtone.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.create-ringtone.com'>http://www.create-ringtone.com</a> to create and send FREE custom ringtones, wallpaper, mp3 and video files to cell phones around the world</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1017327</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know a shortcode provider in the US other than Clickatell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know a shortcode provider in the US other than Clickatell?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1016114</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t confuse the market for Premium SMS with standard SMS.

Content delivery via PSMS is already a big market and anyone coming into it now needs to offer something unque. I had a look at Mozes (and even txtms) and can&#039;t for the life of me think of a single real world application.

PSMS is going to explode this year, but it will be for services rather than content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t confuse the market for Premium SMS with standard SMS.</p>
<p>Content delivery via PSMS is already a big market and anyone coming into it now needs to offer something unque. I had a look at Mozes (and even txtms) and can&#8217;t for the life of me think of a single real world application.</p>
<p>PSMS is going to explode this year, but it will be for services rather than content.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Eicher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1014240</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Eicher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Even if you were able to get paid by an operator for Bulk SMS MT over 1,000,000 per month, they pay around $0.001-$0.003/sms. That is $1000-3000 bucks x 4 operators = 4,000-12,000.month. That is not alot of money and not enough to get 5MM in VC. They must have some other strategy in mind.

2) The concept is definately valid and I do not think their current model is 100% their future vision.  We (Skycore) are also launching a similar product using  PMMS. Hopefully if we get profiled on techcrunch when we launch you will be able to critique our service also.  It is interesting to hear guys like Juha talk about these concepts launching  in europe 5 years ago. Juha please contact me - bizdev at skycore.com I have a few questions for you. 

I am actually looking for beta testers in Europe(FR,DE,UK,NL,SZ,BG,NO,SV) so if you read this send me and email (include your operator) at bizdev at skycore.com for beta login.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Even if you were able to get paid by an operator for Bulk SMS MT over 1,000,000 per month, they pay around $0.001-$0.003/sms. That is $1000-3000 bucks x 4 operators = 4,000-12,000.month. That is not alot of money and not enough to get 5MM in VC. They must have some other strategy in mind.</p>
<p>2) The concept is definately valid and I do not think their current model is 100% their future vision.  We (Skycore) are also launching a similar product using  PMMS. Hopefully if we get profiled on techcrunch when we launch you will be able to critique our service also.  It is interesting to hear guys like Juha talk about these concepts launching  in europe 5 years ago. Juha please contact me &#8211; bizdev at skycore.com I have a few questions for you. </p>
<p>I am actually looking for beta testers in Europe(FR,DE,UK,NL,SZ,BG,NO,SV) so if you read this send me and email (include your operator) at bizdev at skycore.com for beta login.</p>
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		<title>By: Adventure Trip</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1012696</link>
		<dc:creator>Adventure Trip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty cool. They&#039;re focused on bands now, presumably to get some critical mass in one niche. But there are a zillion applications for this. 

For example, I&#039;ve reserved the keyword &quot;hotchicks&quot;. Try it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty cool. They&#8217;re focused on bands now, presumably to get some critical mass in one niche. But there are a zillion applications for this. </p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;ve reserved the keyword &#8220;hotchicks&#8221;. Try it!</p>
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		<title>By: tomthree</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1012160</link>
		<dc:creator>tomthree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR ALL THE HATERS:

The amount of SMS traffic is huge. The Philippines averaging 15 text messages and Singapore averaging 12 text messages sent daily. The heavy users - generation C - are another enormously large market. 10% of the under 20 year olds in the UK average 100 text messages per day. In South Korea that number is 30%.  
 
Almost every user of SMS text messaging has access to internet based e-mail. Yet survey after survey proves that young people prefer SMS over email. 
 
Mobile subscribers using SMS are billed over 70 Billion dollars annually which is larger than Hollywood box office, global music sales, and video gaming software revenues- combined. 

Examples of rich content are wallpaper, mobile blog feeds, stock alerts, weather updates, news flashes, pod casts, mobile voting and ring tones. The best known ring tone is probably Crazy Frog11 which generated in excess of $200 million for its parent company Jamba22 .  
 
The best North American example of rich content and Premium SMS is the American Idol voting phenomena. Over the last 5 years the Idol series world-wide generated 1.9 billion Premium SMS votes with the finale of the last American series generating 41 million votes in the US alone. Total Premium SMS revenues were approximately $720 million which were split between Fremantle Media (Idol producer), the TV broadcaster and the mobile carrier.

Bottom line is that there is a huge market potential in the US with over 220 M mobile phone subs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR ALL THE HATERS:</p>
<p>The amount of SMS traffic is huge. The Philippines averaging 15 text messages and Singapore averaging 12 text messages sent daily. The heavy users &#8211; generation C &#8211; are another enormously large market. 10% of the under 20 year olds in the UK average 100 text messages per day. In South Korea that number is 30%.  </p>
<p>Almost every user of SMS text messaging has access to internet based e-mail. Yet survey after survey proves that young people prefer SMS over email. </p>
<p>Mobile subscribers using SMS are billed over 70 Billion dollars annually which is larger than Hollywood box office, global music sales, and video gaming software revenues- combined. </p>
<p>Examples of rich content are wallpaper, mobile blog feeds, stock alerts, weather updates, news flashes, pod casts, mobile voting and ring tones. The best known ring tone is probably Crazy Frog11 which generated in excess of $200 million for its parent company Jamba22 .  </p>
<p>The best North American example of rich content and Premium SMS is the American Idol voting phenomena. Over the last 5 years the Idol series world-wide generated 1.9 billion Premium SMS votes with the finale of the last American series generating 41 million votes in the US alone. Total Premium SMS revenues were approximately $720 million which were split between Fremantle Media (Idol producer), the TV broadcaster and the mobile carrier.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that there is a huge market potential in the US with over 220 M mobile phone subs.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1011977</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys,

I wanted to make all of you aware of a similar, but better service that is quickly getting a lot of notice, www.TXTMS.com. This company offers multiple user IDs with a single email address, only one person needs to have an account for an exchange to occur, and best of all it is compatible worldwide.

CHECK OUT www.TXTMS.COM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I wanted to make all of you aware of a similar, but better service that is quickly getting a lot of notice, <a href="http://www.TXTMS.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.TXTMS.com'>http://www.TXTMS.com</a>. This company offers multiple user IDs with a single email address, only one person needs to have an account for an exchange to occur, and best of all it is compatible worldwide.</p>
<p>CHECK OUT <a href="http://www.TXTMS.COM" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.TXTMS.COM'>http://www.TXTMS.COM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Market Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1011106</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do VCs invest $5MM in an SMS company?  Its simple, the market is huge.  SMS messages will be measured in trillions this year (world wide).  If a company can provide a valuable service to capture a small fraction of that traffic and monetize it, they can become highly profitable.  

As such, Moses will be trying desparately to grow a user base and build a high volume service in hopes of monetizing it.  The path to monetization is not an easy one though, even with traffic.  As many people have mentioned, SMS gateways charge for clients to put SMS traffic onto the carrier network, on the order of 2-10 cents per message.  Which translates into a loss for each message sent. The goal is to achieve a volume threshold that gets the carriers attention, enough attention that they are willing to pay per message sent instead of the reverse.  However this volume threshold is historically very high, close to 1MM monthly SMS message per carrier!  Which means Moses will have to serve 1MM messages per month on Sprint, 1MM messages per month on Verizon, etc before they ever get paid on a per message basis.  Not easy.

In order for services providers likes Moses to be successful, there needs to be an aggregator out there that pays out on a per message basis for low volume clients.  Wait, that sounds like a business model worth investing in.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do VCs invest $5MM in an SMS company?  Its simple, the market is huge.  SMS messages will be measured in trillions this year (world wide).  If a company can provide a valuable service to capture a small fraction of that traffic and monetize it, they can become highly profitable.  </p>
<p>As such, Moses will be trying desparately to grow a user base and build a high volume service in hopes of monetizing it.  The path to monetization is not an easy one though, even with traffic.  As many people have mentioned, SMS gateways charge for clients to put SMS traffic onto the carrier network, on the order of 2-10 cents per message.  Which translates into a loss for each message sent. The goal is to achieve a volume threshold that gets the carriers attention, enough attention that they are willing to pay per message sent instead of the reverse.  However this volume threshold is historically very high, close to 1MM monthly SMS message per carrier!  Which means Moses will have to serve 1MM messages per month on Sprint, 1MM messages per month on Verizon, etc before they ever get paid on a per message basis.  Not easy.</p>
<p>In order for services providers likes Moses to be successful, there needs to be an aggregator out there that pays out on a per message basis for low volume clients.  Wait, that sounds like a business model worth investing in&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gustav</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1010394</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who the hell can remember ISBNs so that they can recommend a book at a bar???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who the hell can remember ISBNs so that they can recommend a book at a bar???</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1010331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This service is ridiculous and will never work.  Plus, why are you reviewing it since you obviously have no idea about mobile business? Regarding revenue, if you&#039;re an SMS service I can only hope that you&#039;re doing a direct bind with the carriers gateway so you&#039;re not paying an aggregator like mBlox.  That&#039;s when revenue share occurs.
90% of the services that Mozes offers won&#039;t be used and the other 10% are just made more complicated with their involvement.  Are you telling me I can get updates from my favorite bands?!?!?! Oh wait, I already do and they&#039;re called ALERTS that I signed up for on the band&#039;s website.  You&#039;re telling me that I can send a note to Mozes so I don&#039;t forget something?!??!? Oh wait, I have a bunch of notes saved in my phone&#039;s memo pad and I don&#039;t have to log on to anything to get them.  You&#039;re saying I can get ringtones sent to my phone?!?!? What major artists do you have using your service that I care about? Oh, I&#039;m sorry... You only have $5MM and can&#039;t play the marketing/licensing game that it takes to penetrate that market plus I just made my own ringtone on my computer.  Snap!!
This business is lame and I can&#039;t believe someone gave them $5MM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This service is ridiculous and will never work.  Plus, why are you reviewing it since you obviously have no idea about mobile business? Regarding revenue, if you&#8217;re an SMS service I can only hope that you&#8217;re doing a direct bind with the carriers gateway so you&#8217;re not paying an aggregator like mBlox.  That&#8217;s when revenue share occurs.<br />
90% of the services that Mozes offers won&#8217;t be used and the other 10% are just made more complicated with their involvement.  Are you telling me I can get updates from my favorite bands?!?!?! Oh wait, I already do and they&#8217;re called ALERTS that I signed up for on the band&#8217;s website.  You&#8217;re telling me that I can send a note to Mozes so I don&#8217;t forget something?!??!? Oh wait, I have a bunch of notes saved in my phone&#8217;s memo pad and I don&#8217;t have to log on to anything to get them.  You&#8217;re saying I can get ringtones sent to my phone?!?!? What major artists do you have using your service that I care about? Oh, I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; You only have $5MM and can&#8217;t play the marketing/licensing game that it takes to penetrate that market plus I just made my own ringtone on my computer.  Snap!!<br />
This business is lame and I can&#8217;t believe someone gave them $5MM.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Chiang</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1009740</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there needs to be a way to sms from an 800#.  Five digit short codes have been sms-ed by 2% of the population</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there needs to be a way to sms from an 800#.  Five digit short codes have been sms-ed by 2% of the population</p>
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		<title>By: Miike Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008983</link>
		<dc:creator>Miike Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still interested in how revenue is generated given that the consensus seems to be that you have to pay a sms gateway per message to send and receive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still interested in how revenue is generated given that the consensus seems to be that you have to pay a sms gateway per message to send and receive.</p>
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		<title>By: ...some Drifter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008749</link>
		<dc:creator>...some Drifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s in a name: everything.

my biggest gripe with this co. is it&#039;s name - what&#039;s up with the co. name of mozes?

moses, mozes, god, religion, bibles, jews etc etc - they all flow in the same direction, you see

why name a co., a cell texting co. at that,  with a religion connection? someone who knows why, plz enlighten me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s in a name: everything.</p>
<p>my biggest gripe with this co. is it&#8217;s name &#8211; what&#8217;s up with the co. name of mozes?</p>
<p>moses, mozes, god, religion, bibles, jews etc etc &#8211; they all flow in the same direction, you see</p>
<p>why name a co., a cell texting co. at that,  with a religion connection? someone who knows why, plz enlighten me</p>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008686</link>
		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, we did this 2 or 3 years ago in about 2 days for a VC competition. We got shot down like you wouldn&#039;t believe, now it&#039;s woth 5m? Daaaamn.

http://celltzer.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, we did this 2 or 3 years ago in about 2 days for a VC competition. We got shot down like you wouldn&#8217;t believe, now it&#8217;s woth 5m? Daaaamn.</p>
<p><a href="http://celltzer.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://celltzer.com'>http://celltzer.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Juha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008660</link>
		<dc:creator>Juha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, you got it right. Once the operators allow short codes to be opened freely (which they will sooner or later as it is what will really explode the market) then SMS connectivity is bulk. There are companies that offer connectivity to most mobile operators (probably not the ones in the US) which offer real value. With one deal you get access to dozens of operators and can quickly launch the service globally. I&#039;m sure these companies will aggressively come to the US market as well as soon as they can negotiate a shot code.

Brand recognition for the short codes was something that was thought to be valuable as well in Europe back in 2000. As the SMS services that work came to be such that you always have the number and instructions in front of you (on TV, on paper on on the web) that lost all importance. It is easier to remember a short code like 11111 than 73594 but it really doesn&#039;t matter in the end as very few people will ever use premium SMS services without a proper context like participating in a voting in a TV show. There is thus ample opportunity to show the short code and directions related to the service to guarantee maximum participation by the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, you got it right. Once the operators allow short codes to be opened freely (which they will sooner or later as it is what will really explode the market) then SMS connectivity is bulk. There are companies that offer connectivity to most mobile operators (probably not the ones in the US) which offer real value. With one deal you get access to dozens of operators and can quickly launch the service globally. I&#8217;m sure these companies will aggressively come to the US market as well as soon as they can negotiate a shot code.</p>
<p>Brand recognition for the short codes was something that was thought to be valuable as well in Europe back in 2000. As the SMS services that work came to be such that you always have the number and instructions in front of you (on TV, on paper on on the web) that lost all importance. It is easier to remember a short code like 11111 than 73594 but it really doesn&#8217;t matter in the end as very few people will ever use premium SMS services without a proper context like participating in a voting in a TV show. There is thus ample opportunity to show the short code and directions related to the service to guarantee maximum participation by the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Irv Remedios</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008611</link>
		<dc:creator>Irv Remedios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the write up Marshall and thanks for some of the feedback above. 

SMS is really effective for the type of mobile connection services we offer to fans, bands and publishers. There are also other technologies that we will be introducing in the coming months that make these mobile connections more dynamic and rich. 

If anyone has any additional comments feel free to send me an email - we&#039;re always looking to improve things.

irv at mozes.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write up Marshall and thanks for some of the feedback above. </p>
<p>SMS is really effective for the type of mobile connection services we offer to fans, bands and publishers. There are also other technologies that we will be introducing in the coming months that make these mobile connections more dynamic and rich. </p>
<p>If anyone has any additional comments feel free to send me an email &#8211; we&#8217;re always looking to improve things.</p>
<p>irv at mozes.com</p>
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		<title>By: Scott H</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008562</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One interesting sideline here is that US carriers never used to allow “keywords” – one of the reasons (in my opinion) was simply to drive more registrations and exorbitant monthly fees for the CTIA/Neustar run short code service.

In general carriers around the world have always allowed keywords a) because it allows services to be launched quickly, without all the network programming and b) because it shifts the burden of service configuration and establishment to the aggregators/service providers, which is a good model.

So overall, if we are now seeing US carriers support them (and I doubt this, I am thinking Mozes submitted a detailed application form and will get whacked when an “unsuitable” content partner wants a keyword) this is a good thing.

However, these are just keywords run off a short code – anyone can set this up in an hour, assuming they have a short code ready to go. The value would be in the consumer brand recognition of the 66937 number – which frankly doesn’t strike me as likely, especially not in the US with $5 million to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One interesting sideline here is that US carriers never used to allow “keywords” – one of the reasons (in my opinion) was simply to drive more registrations and exorbitant monthly fees for the CTIA/Neustar run short code service.</p>
<p>In general carriers around the world have always allowed keywords a) because it allows services to be launched quickly, without all the network programming and b) because it shifts the burden of service configuration and establishment to the aggregators/service providers, which is a good model.</p>
<p>So overall, if we are now seeing US carriers support them (and I doubt this, I am thinking Mozes submitted a detailed application form and will get whacked when an “unsuitable” content partner wants a keyword) this is a good thing.</p>
<p>However, these are just keywords run off a short code – anyone can set this up in an hour, assuming they have a short code ready to go. The value would be in the consumer brand recognition of the 66937 number – which frankly doesn’t strike me as likely, especially not in the US with $5 million to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Juha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008443</link>
		<dc:creator>Juha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying that SMS is a dead technology, quite the contrary. I used to run an SMS entertainment company in the Nordics in 2000-2003 and to me Mozes was a dejavu from the year 2000. SMS services are very good at places (and email etc. won&#039;t replace them for many good reasons) but I saw these &quot;you can use SMS for anything like receicing news and stuff to your phone&quot; ideas too many times that just lacked consumer adoption (and still lack). On the other hand, SMS combined with appropriate media has provided remarkable results. Especially combining SMS with TV for services like voting, chatting and gaming has been a gold mine for many companies and still is. First SMS to TV shows were aired in 2000 in Finland (or perhaps Norway) and have spread around Europe and Asia since with good success. There is even a company doing SMS TV in the US and they claim to be the pioneers in SMS TV. :)

I remember at least a dozen companies started in 2000 in Finland alone that were offering a platform to create and deliver SMS services for content creators (like Mozes). These companies of course were offering SMS connectivity to countries across the world, as connectivity with domestic operators was trivial. You just filled in a one paged form and applied for a short code and you were up and running within a couple of days. I&#039;m definitely amazed if the keywords will be auctioned or anything like that as that hasn&#039;t happened anywhere else in the world either and the US is the last developed country to embrace SMS services. 

I really don&#039;t get why US VCs are now investing to SMS startups, as there are plenty of competition from companies that have been around since 2000 and have created sales of hundreds of millions of dollars per year on premium SMS services. SMS is a pretty &quot;been there done that&quot; space, at least on a global level. It&#039;s hard to see why a US based startup with little experience in SMS services would do well against a competitor with 100 MUSD in sales and years of experience in creating SMS services that sell.

If I&#039;m totally wrong here and there is a huge business opportunity in SMS in the US at the moment and all kinds of crazy SMS companies are getting funded, I&#039;m happy to move over there and start an SMS business again. :) Don&#039;t hesitate to be in touch. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that SMS is a dead technology, quite the contrary. I used to run an SMS entertainment company in the Nordics in 2000-2003 and to me Mozes was a dejavu from the year 2000. SMS services are very good at places (and email etc. won&#8217;t replace them for many good reasons) but I saw these &#8220;you can use SMS for anything like receicing news and stuff to your phone&#8221; ideas too many times that just lacked consumer adoption (and still lack). On the other hand, SMS combined with appropriate media has provided remarkable results. Especially combining SMS with TV for services like voting, chatting and gaming has been a gold mine for many companies and still is. First SMS to TV shows were aired in 2000 in Finland (or perhaps Norway) and have spread around Europe and Asia since with good success. There is even a company doing SMS TV in the US and they claim to be the pioneers in SMS TV. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I remember at least a dozen companies started in 2000 in Finland alone that were offering a platform to create and deliver SMS services for content creators (like Mozes). These companies of course were offering SMS connectivity to countries across the world, as connectivity with domestic operators was trivial. You just filled in a one paged form and applied for a short code and you were up and running within a couple of days. I&#8217;m definitely amazed if the keywords will be auctioned or anything like that as that hasn&#8217;t happened anywhere else in the world either and the US is the last developed country to embrace SMS services. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t get why US VCs are now investing to SMS startups, as there are plenty of competition from companies that have been around since 2000 and have created sales of hundreds of millions of dollars per year on premium SMS services. SMS is a pretty &#8220;been there done that&#8221; space, at least on a global level. It&#8217;s hard to see why a US based startup with little experience in SMS services would do well against a competitor with 100 MUSD in sales and years of experience in creating SMS services that sell.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m totally wrong here and there is a huge business opportunity in SMS in the US at the moment and all kinds of crazy SMS companies are getting funded, I&#8217;m happy to move over there and start an SMS business again. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Don&#8217;t hesitate to be in touch. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008350</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finite keywords aren&#039;t a problem if the keyword is appearing in an ad or on a poster.  I would use SMS only as a last resort, meaning I&#039;m at a bar, see a poster with a &#039;keyword&#039; and want to know more or save it for later.  Keyword top of mind awareness is less of an issue in this space considering it&#039;s use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finite keywords aren&#8217;t a problem if the keyword is appearing in an ad or on a poster.  I would use SMS only as a last resort, meaning I&#8217;m at a bar, see a poster with a &#8216;keyword&#8217; and want to know more or save it for later.  Keyword top of mind awareness is less of an issue in this space considering it&#8217;s use.</p>
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		<title>By: www.youtubesearcher.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008328</link>
		<dc:creator>www.youtubesearcher.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al (no 10 above), these companies do not offer free text messaging, you still have to pay for each message sent/received depending on your phone service contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al (no 10 above), these companies do not offer free text messaging, you still have to pay for each message sent/received depending on your phone service contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Dowling</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/mozes-sms-service-raises-5m/comment-page-1/#comment-1008040</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Dowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to think if there has ever been a time when I needed information and SMS was the only way available.   Eh...probably not.   

I certainly see the value in SMS, but I think it lies much more in apps like Dodgeball that help you find things that are changing constantly, i.e. the location of friends.  Using it to simply get information and updates when you request them doesn&#039;t seem to have wide appeal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to think if there has ever been a time when I needed information and SMS was the only way available.   Eh&#8230;probably not.   </p>
<p>I certainly see the value in SMS, but I think it lies much more in apps like Dodgeball that help you find things that are changing constantly, i.e. the location of friends.  Using it to simply get information and updates when you request them doesn&#8217;t seem to have wide appeal to me.</p>
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