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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s G-Day: Google Launches Apps Premier</title>
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		<title>By: What The Hell Happened To The Free Version Of Google Apps?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-3/#comment-2840125</link>
		<dc:creator>What The Hell Happened To The Free Version Of Google Apps?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as “a service available at no cost to organizations of all shapes and sizes.” A paid version first appeared in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Cloud: 1 MS Office: 0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-2746922</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Cloud: 1 MS Office: 0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Apps first launched in 2006, it was free. Since then Google introduced a new model, where the free Google Apps account could be used by 50 users and the premier edition of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Puts The Squeeze On Free Apps</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-2603495</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Puts The Squeeze On Free Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for everyone lasted until February 2007, when Google announced a premier edition of the service with more storage and an uptime guarantee. The cost was (and is) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: perde</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-2562651</link>
		<dc:creator>perde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think google is spreading its efforts too thin. Just leave google to do all sort of these things. In 5 to 10 years google will do lot of me-too stuff and some day realize it has lost its agility. Google burdened by its bureacracy will be hand-tied watching a new search engine racing ahead within few years. Switching the search engine is afterall easiest thing to do, doesn’t cost anything. Business history is replete with such stories. Google executives are not superhuman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think google is spreading its efforts too thin. Just leave google to do all sort of these things. In 5 to 10 years google will do lot of me-too stuff and some day realize it has lost its agility. Google burdened by its bureacracy will be hand-tied watching a new search engine racing ahead within few years. Switching the search engine is afterall easiest thing to do, doesn’t cost anything. Business history is replete with such stories. Google executives are not superhuman.</p>
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		<title>By: edbong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1072264</link>
		<dc:creator>edbong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/#comment-1072264</guid>
		<description>There have been some critical comments regarding Google Apps... and I think you are right to point out that it is becoming more and more a &quot;political&quot; issue. I belive the most powerfull thing of Gapps is its API...for example we are developing an FREE open source &quot;business application platform&quot; (think salesforce.com). Our first application is working tightly integrated with GOOGLE APPS. http://www.applicationexchange.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been some critical comments regarding Google Apps&#8230; and I think you are right to point out that it is becoming more and more a &#8220;political&#8221; issue. I belive the most powerfull thing of Gapps is its API&#8230;for example we are developing an FREE open source &#8220;business application platform&#8221; (think salesforce.com). Our first application is working tightly integrated with GOOGLE APPS. <a href="http://www.applicationexchange.com." rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.applicationexchange.com'>http://www.appl...ionexchange.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: federica</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1066359</link>
		<dc:creator>federica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is with all the Microsoft astroturfing? All these &quot;random&quot; people insisting Google apps will never be a trend is a bit too convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is with all the Microsoft astroturfing? All these &#8220;random&#8221; people insisting Google apps will never be a trend is a bit too convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1062835</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you use Gmail a lot on the Mac, check out Gmail.app:

http://osx.iusethis.com/app/gmailapp

It lets Gmail seem like a regular application that just lives on the OS X dock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use Gmail a lot on the Mac, check out Gmail.app:</p>
<p><a href="http://osx.iusethis.com/app/gmailapp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://osx.iusethis.com/app/gmailapp'>http://osx.iuse...om/app/gmailapp</a></p>
<p>It lets Gmail seem like a regular application that just lives on the OS X dock.</p>
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		<title>By: nm</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1040132</link>
		<dc:creator>nm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t hosted market meant for SMEs?
When they offer enterprise products like search appliance, they can even offer Apps premier in enterprises too. Then you have everything inside firewalls and worry less about security.
What nobody discussed was APIs for third party application integration. Avaya has joined hands with Google to bring intelligent communications to SMEs. Does is sound similar to LCS integration? 
Google&#039;s talk, gmail, presence, docs and possible integration with IP telephony looks to be headed for unified communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t hosted market meant for SMEs?<br />
When they offer enterprise products like search appliance, they can even offer Apps premier in enterprises too. Then you have everything inside firewalls and worry less about security.<br />
What nobody discussed was APIs for third party application integration. Avaya has joined hands with Google to bring intelligent communications to SMEs. Does is sound similar to LCS integration?<br />
Google&#8217;s talk, gmail, presence, docs and possible integration with IP telephony looks to be headed for unified communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Yates</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1037340</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people I can see being interested in this idea are companies with large numbers of employees who only occasionally need access to Office-type apps; then a corporate license for Office is inefficient.
But at corporate prices Office is very inexpensive, so the Google pricing would have to be lower. Office sits on a desktop and uses the desktop computing power. You still need a desktop to use Google apps, so how do they add their hosting costs and still cost less than MS? Hosting the apps is adding costs for no benefit. 
One of the problems you can&#039;t get away from is the physical location of the data and the bandwidth needed to get to it. If the data is offsite, you can work on it quickly, but you can&#039;t print it quickly. It has to be downloaded. Groove replication  (and offsite backup replication) are interesting ways around this problem.
An appliance or virtual appliance would be better for companies than this hosted service. This could be next. However I don&#039;t see a Google unique advantage here. If OpenOffice or IBM produced an appliance it would be popular too in certain markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people I can see being interested in this idea are companies with large numbers of employees who only occasionally need access to Office-type apps; then a corporate license for Office is inefficient.<br />
But at corporate prices Office is very inexpensive, so the Google pricing would have to be lower. Office sits on a desktop and uses the desktop computing power. You still need a desktop to use Google apps, so how do they add their hosting costs and still cost less than MS? Hosting the apps is adding costs for no benefit.<br />
One of the problems you can&#8217;t get away from is the physical location of the data and the bandwidth needed to get to it. If the data is offsite, you can work on it quickly, but you can&#8217;t print it quickly. It has to be downloaded. Groove replication  (and offsite backup replication) are interesting ways around this problem.<br />
An appliance or virtual appliance would be better for companies than this hosted service. This could be next. However I don&#8217;t see a Google unique advantage here. If OpenOffice or IBM produced an appliance it would be popular too in certain markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Brumbaugh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1035151</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Brumbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tool that is tailor made for the educational community.  I created a Google Apps for your Domain portal for the school I work at.  It solves a huge number of issues schools face in the implementation of a software and technology integration strategy.

1) Students don&#039;t have to purchase expensive software to be on the same version as the school

2) Students can work anyplace they have an Internet connection, no worrying about having the right hardware or software at Mom&#039;s house, Dad&#039;s house or at the grand parents house.  

3) It decreases the point of entry for students and teachers to enter the online collaboration world to $0.

4) The portal (http://portal.capuchinohighschool.org) allows students to have access to the entire slate of tools availale to them in one easy to use spot.

5) Google has already hinted to a presentation tool like PowerPoint and may re-launch JotSpot as an integrated tool within Apps for your Domain. This would provide all of the tools a student needs to be successful at no cost to students and/or teachers.

Schools are glad to be finally reaping the benefits of the read/write web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tool that is tailor made for the educational community.  I created a Google Apps for your Domain portal for the school I work at.  It solves a huge number of issues schools face in the implementation of a software and technology integration strategy.</p>
<p>1) Students don&#8217;t have to purchase expensive software to be on the same version as the school</p>
<p>2) Students can work anyplace they have an Internet connection, no worrying about having the right hardware or software at Mom&#8217;s house, Dad&#8217;s house or at the grand parents house.  </p>
<p>3) It decreases the point of entry for students and teachers to enter the online collaboration world to $0.</p>
<p>4) The portal (<a href="http://portal.capuchinohighschool.org" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://portal.capuchinohighschool.org'>http://portal.c...ohighschool.org</a>) allows students to have access to the entire slate of tools availale to them in one easy to use spot.</p>
<p>5) Google has already hinted to a presentation tool like PowerPoint and may re-launch JotSpot as an integrated tool within Apps for your Domain. This would provide all of the tools a student needs to be successful at no cost to students and/or teachers.</p>
<p>Schools are glad to be finally reaping the benefits of the read/write web.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogrolle.net</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1030531</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogrolle.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google Apps - Kleingedrucktes...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bekanntlich hat Google vor ein paar Tagen Google Apps Premier Edition eingef&#252;hrt.  Das umfangreiche Paket kostet 50 US-Dollar pro User und Jahr.
Vielleicht eine interessante Alternative zu Microsoft Office - vor allem f&#252;r kleinere Unternehmen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google Apps &#8211; Kleingedrucktes&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bekanntlich hat Google vor ein paar Tagen Google Apps Premier Edition eingef&#252;hrt.  Das umfangreiche Paket kostet 50 US-Dollar pro User und Jahr.<br />
Vielleicht eine interessante Alternative zu Microsoft Office &#8211; vor allem f&#252;r kleinere Unternehmen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Linhares</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1025812</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Linhares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the 1st ipod was launched; Apple&#039;s fanatic fans were downplaying it enormously.  Now it seems that everyone around here thinks Google hasn&#039;y done much (to say the least).  To me, this is something of groundbreaking historical proportions, and people are not understanding that because, well, they&#039;re making bad analogies.  There are many different things to consider in this announcement:

(i) Google&#039;s guarantee of 99.9% uptime.  This does not mean 0.01% downtime.  It means that Google is willing to back up the promises they make; and that, in the long run, will bring confidence to business.  I&#039;ve been frustrated once or twice about contacting my bank, after some years long relationship.  But that frustration for their &quot;downtime&quot; does not necessarily mean changing provider.

(ii) The IT guys (that would be laughing in a comment above) should really be the first ones to start crying.  This is more an attack on them than on MS, and in the economic inefficiency of every single company having to buy a bunch of servers, maintain those, update them, and of course hire hire and hire a bunch of expensive people to run email &amp; calendaring.

(iii) To compare this to ms-office is to misunderstand the whole thing.  It&#039;s like saying an iPod can&#039;t write songs; can&#039;t compose music.  The minor announcement that docs &amp; spreadsheets were now integrated is not even close to the real issue.  They are neat tools, great for collaboration.  I can imagine a manager in the morning emailing people about some problem they face and the whole group putting their views on a doc, instead of emailing opinions and arguments back and forth and back and forth and back and forth; by the end of the day a collaborative effort brings up a rough sketch.  That is a productivity gain.

(iv) The docs &amp; spreadsheets integration is a MINOR issue.  The MAJOR issue is that, soon, we should see blogger integration, google reader, a presentation-sharing tool, picasa web photos, wikis, and a whole lot more I don&#039;t remember at this precise second.  All of them improve productivity, and, when taken together, when a click away, and after people have learned how to use them, then the productivity boost is really huge.

To say that this is an attack on microsoft office and therefore it will fail, is, to me, very myopic, just like those iPod skeptics that thought &quot;this thing will never sell&quot;.  

Yet, years from now, Ms-office might just be a tool for &quot;polishing&quot; up documents.  Then again, not all documents need to be polished; and, moreover, other companies that integrate their offices with Google&#039;s tools might just make it a whole lot better.

When thinking about tech, we can&#039;t just think where it is; we need to think where it&#039;s going.  What the potential is.  This thing today was of incredible historic proportions.  Not because of what&#039;s on offer--though the offer is already great; but because it will only get better.  People will be more productive AND costs will be saved.  Laugh as much as you want; but think again when you start to see big corporations jump into Google&#039;s efforts, both to improve productivicty, and to save dozens of millions of bucks per year.  The IT guys in the backrooms better get prepared.

--Linhares

http://www.capyblanca.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the 1st ipod was launched; Apple&#8217;s fanatic fans were downplaying it enormously.  Now it seems that everyone around here thinks Google hasn&#8217;y done much (to say the least).  To me, this is something of groundbreaking historical proportions, and people are not understanding that because, well, they&#8217;re making bad analogies.  There are many different things to consider in this announcement:</p>
<p>(i) Google&#8217;s guarantee of 99.9% uptime.  This does not mean 0.01% downtime.  It means that Google is willing to back up the promises they make; and that, in the long run, will bring confidence to business.  I&#8217;ve been frustrated once or twice about contacting my bank, after some years long relationship.  But that frustration for their &#8220;downtime&#8221; does not necessarily mean changing provider.</p>
<p>(ii) The IT guys (that would be laughing in a comment above) should really be the first ones to start crying.  This is more an attack on them than on MS, and in the economic inefficiency of every single company having to buy a bunch of servers, maintain those, update them, and of course hire hire and hire a bunch of expensive people to run email &amp; calendaring.</p>
<p>(iii) To compare this to ms-office is to misunderstand the whole thing.  It&#8217;s like saying an iPod can&#8217;t write songs; can&#8217;t compose music.  The minor announcement that docs &amp; spreadsheets were now integrated is not even close to the real issue.  They are neat tools, great for collaboration.  I can imagine a manager in the morning emailing people about some problem they face and the whole group putting their views on a doc, instead of emailing opinions and arguments back and forth and back and forth and back and forth; by the end of the day a collaborative effort brings up a rough sketch.  That is a productivity gain.</p>
<p>(iv) The docs &amp; spreadsheets integration is a MINOR issue.  The MAJOR issue is that, soon, we should see blogger integration, google reader, a presentation-sharing tool, picasa web photos, wikis, and a whole lot more I don&#8217;t remember at this precise second.  All of them improve productivity, and, when taken together, when a click away, and after people have learned how to use them, then the productivity boost is really huge.</p>
<p>To say that this is an attack on microsoft office and therefore it will fail, is, to me, very myopic, just like those iPod skeptics that thought &#8220;this thing will never sell&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Yet, years from now, Ms-office might just be a tool for &#8220;polishing&#8221; up documents.  Then again, not all documents need to be polished; and, moreover, other companies that integrate their offices with Google&#8217;s tools might just make it a whole lot better.</p>
<p>When thinking about tech, we can&#8217;t just think where it is; we need to think where it&#8217;s going.  What the potential is.  This thing today was of incredible historic proportions.  Not because of what&#8217;s on offer&#8211;though the offer is already great; but because it will only get better.  People will be more productive AND costs will be saved.  Laugh as much as you want; but think again when you start to see big corporations jump into Google&#8217;s efforts, both to improve productivicty, and to save dozens of millions of bucks per year.  The IT guys in the backrooms better get prepared.</p>
<p>&#8211;Linhares</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capyblanca.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.capyblanca.com'>http://www.capyblanca.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: srs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1024201</link>
		<dc:creator>srs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i am a goog fan, this smells like
a desperate attempt to open a new revenue line --
perhaps they are unable to milk more ad juice, 
what were they thinking calling it docs and spreadsheets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i am a goog fan, this smells like<br />
a desperate attempt to open a new revenue line &#8211;<br />
perhaps they are unable to milk more ad juice,<br />
what were they thinking calling it docs and spreadsheets?</p>
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		<title>By: G-FanBoys: Go Home</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1023996</link>
		<dc:creator>G-FanBoys: Go Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Pete&#039;s Sake! Please stop the mis-placed hyperbole!

&quot;Google’s technological brilliance&quot;  Huh?

I&#039;m not going to run though all the problems with many of GOOG&#039;s half-assed products.  Fact is, GOOG search sucks and isn&#039;t making any progress.

- with 4000 PhDs the GoogleBot still can&#039;t read an XML web page?
   c&#039;mon, that&#039;s weak sauce.  And it&#039;s holding back innovation in websites.     
   Seriously, the &quot;organizer of the world&#039;s information&quot; can&#039;t actually READ 
   XML.  Huh?  Hey Fanboys: what do you say about that?
 

- despite &quot;of 22M results&quot; or whatever crap they display, you can never see  more than 1,000 results.  For any search.  Ever.  Q:  Why does it matter if there are 22M results, if you will only show me 1000? A: GOOG is misleading you.   You can&#039;t ever get to 1001--so sorry, long tail.  Fanboys: now tell me 1000 is a lot.  And I will tell you thanks, but I would like more than  0.000045% of the available results.  Especially when 500 of the 1000 results are splogs.


Marshall, is this &quot;technological brilliance&quot; or merely &quot;less sucky than others (who do not focus on search)&quot;?

I posit that Google&#039;s revenue growth is completely proportional to their search getting worse.  Ooops.  Human-inserted ads are better than pagerank.  Oh oh.


Now, I&#039;m no MS fanboy either, but they&#039;re not getting credit for all the hard work they do.

On a whim, I went to open a doc from my atty in Google Docs today.  But sorry, it doesn&#039;t support &quot;redlining&quot; -- MSOffice or OpenOffice do.  G-Fans will say &quot;yeah but how many people need that?&quot;  

It&#039;s simple: we need more than pagerank&#039;s easily gamed algorithm, we need more than 1000 results per search term.  We need more features thank GDocs.



It used to be that I would read article after article saying &quot;who needs bookmarks when you have Google?  It&#039;s easier to find it with Google than it is to save it.&quot;

Ladies and Gentlemen, Google Search has gotten worse over the last 5 years, not better.  And no one can dispute that.  

Don&#039;t be a fanboy of anyone--don&#039;t make excuses for them. If their product doesn&#039;t get the job done, demand better.  In my view, GOOG search has only gotten worse, never better.  Does anyone really believe otherwise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Pete&#8217;s Sake! Please stop the mis-placed hyperbole!</p>
<p>&#8220;Google’s technological brilliance&#8221;  Huh?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to run though all the problems with many of GOOG&#8217;s half-assed products.  Fact is, GOOG search sucks and isn&#8217;t making any progress.</p>
<p>- with 4000 PhDs the GoogleBot still can&#8217;t read an XML web page?<br />
   c&#8217;mon, that&#8217;s weak sauce.  And it&#8217;s holding back innovation in websites.<br />
   Seriously, the &#8220;organizer of the world&#8217;s information&#8221; can&#8217;t actually READ<br />
   XML.  Huh?  Hey Fanboys: what do you say about that?</p>
<p>- despite &#8220;of 22M results&#8221; or whatever crap they display, you can never see  more than 1,000 results.  For any search.  Ever.  Q:  Why does it matter if there are 22M results, if you will only show me 1000? A: GOOG is misleading you.   You can&#8217;t ever get to 1001&#8211;so sorry, long tail.  Fanboys: now tell me 1000 is a lot.  And I will tell you thanks, but I would like more than  0.000045% of the available results.  Especially when 500 of the 1000 results are splogs.</p>
<p>Marshall, is this &#8220;technological brilliance&#8221; or merely &#8220;less sucky than others (who do not focus on search)&#8221;?</p>
<p>I posit that Google&#8217;s revenue growth is completely proportional to their search getting worse.  Ooops.  Human-inserted ads are better than pagerank.  Oh oh.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m no MS fanboy either, but they&#8217;re not getting credit for all the hard work they do.</p>
<p>On a whim, I went to open a doc from my atty in Google Docs today.  But sorry, it doesn&#8217;t support &#8220;redlining&#8221; &#8212; MSOffice or OpenOffice do.  G-Fans will say &#8220;yeah but how many people need that?&#8221;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple: we need more than pagerank&#8217;s easily gamed algorithm, we need more than 1000 results per search term.  We need more features thank GDocs.</p>
<p>It used to be that I would read article after article saying &#8220;who needs bookmarks when you have Google?  It&#8217;s easier to find it with Google than it is to save it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ladies and Gentlemen, Google Search has gotten worse over the last 5 years, not better.  And no one can dispute that.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a fanboy of anyone&#8211;don&#8217;t make excuses for them. If their product doesn&#8217;t get the job done, demand better.  In my view, GOOG search has only gotten worse, never better.  Does anyone really believe otherwise?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1023171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jobson and 99.9% uptime:

The figure of 99.9% sounds great, until you compare it to something like the phone company. The vast, vast majority of people and businesses do not suffer as much as 8.74 hours of downtime a year. A lot of people hate phone companies, but their reliability is pretty incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jobson and 99.9% uptime:</p>
<p>The figure of 99.9% sounds great, until you compare it to something like the phone company. The vast, vast majority of people and businesses do not suffer as much as 8.74 hours of downtime a year. A lot of people hate phone companies, but their reliability is pretty incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Diggity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1021909</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Diggity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heather

Thanks. It&#039;s nice to see other people who are open minded and not Googlefied.</description>
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<p>Thanks. It&#8217;s nice to see other people who are open minded and not Googlefied.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Fernandez-Ruiz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1021867</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Fernandez-Ruiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Extremely Aggresive Pricing Makes Google Apps Premier Edition Sexy to Small and Medium Sized Businesses...&lt;/strong&gt;

It seems like the SaaS media relationships departments have been busy since last night. Microsoft and BT are talking about BT Application Marketplace, Salesforce is hingting about its 25,000 user customer and Google is in fanfarre-mode with Apps Premie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Extremely Aggresive Pricing Makes Google Apps Premier Edition Sexy to Small and Medium Sized Businesses&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It seems like the SaaS media relationships departments have been busy since last night. Microsoft and BT are talking about BT Application Marketplace, Salesforce is hingting about its 25,000 user customer and Google is in fanfarre-mode with Apps Premie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Habanero</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1021496</link>
		<dc:creator>Habanero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vint Cerf: one quarter of all computers part of a botnet 

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070125-8707.html

People who in controls of these computers have a new business model too. They now can black mail corporations that use GApps to distrub their businesses (hmm, especially during sensitive earning report preparation period)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vint Cerf: one quarter of all computers part of a botnet </p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070125-8707.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070125-8707.html'>http://arstechn...70125-8707.html</a></p>
<p>People who in controls of these computers have a new business model too. They now can black mail corporations that use GApps to distrub their businesses (hmm, especially during sensitive earning report preparation period)..</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1021347</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with Ron Diggity</description>
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		<title>By: mitch grasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitch grasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but can they offer me 99.9% uptime on my office&#039;s internet connection? Or my home cable modem? Or when I am traveling? Online-only office apps just aren&#039;t practical yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but can they offer me 99.9% uptime on my office&#8217;s internet connection? Or my home cable modem? Or when I am traveling? Online-only office apps just aren&#8217;t practical yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I would like to see is the ability to upgrade my already existing gmail account to have larger space and no text ads.

Also, whats strange is that the google talk feature in google apps is worthless because it won&#039;t communicate with gmail users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would like to see is the ability to upgrade my already existing gmail account to have larger space and no text ads.</p>
<p>Also, whats strange is that the google talk feature in google apps is worthless because it won&#8217;t communicate with gmail users.</p>
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		<title>By: Tester23</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1020796</link>
		<dc:creator>Tester23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The target audience of this service is people who cannot afford to legitimately use Microsoft products. Enterprises want absolute control over everything that goes on within their organization. Salesforce is an exception because streamlining a company&#039;s marketing efforts is the sole thing they do, and they offer a service that organizations generally do not already have implemented in a manner that is satisfactory to them.  Geeks (such as yours truly) already laugh at the notion of storing their email on third-party servers. We want control. Google is not about control anymore, google is about conformity.  If Google really thinks that enterprises or geeks or anybody with a technical IQ over 80 will go for this, I don&#039;t know what they&#039;re smoking.  Google is not the same young company it was back in 98. It is not google.stanford.edu, and people are not just going to accept everything they throw at them as cool. Somebody ought to tell them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The target audience of this service is people who cannot afford to legitimately use Microsoft products. Enterprises want absolute control over everything that goes on within their organization. Salesforce is an exception because streamlining a company&#8217;s marketing efforts is the sole thing they do, and they offer a service that organizations generally do not already have implemented in a manner that is satisfactory to them.  Geeks (such as yours truly) already laugh at the notion of storing their email on third-party servers. We want control. Google is not about control anymore, google is about conformity.  If Google really thinks that enterprises or geeks or anybody with a technical IQ over 80 will go for this, I don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re smoking.  Google is not the same young company it was back in 98. It is not google.stanford.edu, and people are not just going to accept everything they throw at them as cool. Somebody ought to tell them that.</p>
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		<title>By: Visual Media - CSS website design &#187; Google Launches Google Apps Premier</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1020783</link>
		<dc:creator>Visual Media - CSS website design &#187; Google Launches Google Apps Premier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google has launched Google Apps Premier, its subscription package of premium, hosted business applications. You can read all about it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google has launched Google Apps Premier, its subscription package of premium, hosted business applications. You can read all about it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1020722</link>
		<dc:creator>Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the goal with Google docs &amp; spreadsheets isn&#039;t to displace MS Office, but rather to complement it. It adds a sharing layer that is less &quot;heavy&quot; than using Groove or Sharepoint.

A lot of these Office 2.0 offerings need to think more about their distribution. If you&#039;re on the web, you can deal with HTML content only. It&#039;s far better to have a strategy related to web-content than a strategy related to Office content. 

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the goal with Google docs &amp; spreadsheets isn&#8217;t to displace MS Office, but rather to complement it. It adds a sharing layer that is less &#8220;heavy&#8221; than using Groove or Sharepoint.</p>
<p>A lot of these Office 2.0 offerings need to think more about their distribution. If you&#8217;re on the web, you can deal with HTML content only. It&#8217;s far better to have a strategy related to web-content than a strategy related to Office content. </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Ickman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/21/google-launches-apps-premier/comment-page-2/#comment-1020254</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Ickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;m not suprised that Google is rolling out a hosted application platform but I am suprised that they&#039;re pitching it to enterprises.  This seems like a Small Business play at best to me for all the reasons listed above.

For enterprises I would have expected this to have been rolled out as part of Google OneBox, their turn-key search appliance.  That gets around the security issues because everything lives behind the enterprises firewall.  Of course they may be working on that as well making the whole hosted offering a Time-to-Market play.

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m not suprised that Google is rolling out a hosted application platform but I am suprised that they&#8217;re pitching it to enterprises.  This seems like a Small Business play at best to me for all the reasons listed above.</p>
<p>For enterprises I would have expected this to have been rolled out as part of Google OneBox, their turn-key search appliance.  That gets around the security issues because everything lives behind the enterprises firewall.  Of course they may be working on that as well making the whole hosted offering a Time-to-Market play.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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