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		<title>By: Infotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Odeo Giving It Another Go</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-2405527</link>
		<dc:creator>Infotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Odeo Giving It Another Go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Under Obvious, Williams held both Odeo and Twitter as wholly-owned subsidiaries. Odeo was then put up for sale in February 2007 and sold at a loss to Sonic Mountain a few months later. SonicMountain proceeded [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Under Obvious, Williams held both Odeo and Twitter as wholly-owned subsidiaries. Odeo was then put up for sale in February 2007 and sold at a loss to Sonic Mountain a few months later. SonicMountain proceeded [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Odeo被公開拍賣了！ &#171; 小白的窩</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1585834</link>
		<dc:creator>Odeo被公開拍賣了！ &#171; 小白的窩</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 成立於2004年底知名的podcast網站 - Odeo，昨天宣佈要拍賣了！我從TechCrunch、GigaOM及Mashable的feed上面同時都看到了相關文章，想說不會吧，這事兒有大條。於是給他仔細研究了一下，原來拍賣乃真，但原因並非玩不下去。官方說法是並非錢燒完了或虧損嚴重之類的，而是創辦人Evan Williams（知名網路人 / 部落客，Blogger.com的創辦人之一）及其公司Obvious要將重心全力放在旗下另一個酷站Twitter的身上。因此所有程式、網域、商標及龐大的資料庫資產 - 會員資料、podcasts等等，通通一併拍賣！意思就是徹底斷絕關係就對了啦！ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 成立於2004年底知名的podcast網站 &#8211; Odeo，昨天宣佈要拍賣了！我從TechCrunch、GigaOM及Mashable的feed上面同時都看到了相關文章，想說不會吧，這事兒有大條。於是給他仔細研究了一下，原來拍賣乃真，但原因並非玩不下去。官方說法是並非錢燒完了或虧損嚴重之類的，而是創辦人Evan Williams（知名網路人 / 部落客，Blogger.com的創辦人之一）及其公司Obvious要將重心全力放在旗下另一個酷站Twitter的身上。因此所有程式、網域、商標及龐大的資料庫資產 &#8211; 會員資料、podcasts等等，通通一併拍賣！意思就是徹底斷絕關係就對了啦！ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bitperbit &#187; SonicMountain compra Odeo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1370329</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitperbit &#187; SonicMountain compra Odeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] una startup basada en la ciudad de Nueva York. En el mes de Febrero de este a&#241;o, Odeo fue puesto a la venta, luego que en Octubre de 2006, el servicio fue re&#8211;comprado de unos [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] una startup basada en la ciudad de Nueva York. En el mes de Febrero de este a&#241;o, Odeo fue puesto a la venta, luego que en Octubre de 2006, el servicio fue re&#8211;comprado de unos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Breaking: Odeo Acquired By SonicMountain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1370251</link>
		<dc:creator>Breaking: Odeo Acquired By SonicMountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was publicly put on sale last February. Twitter is no longer part of Odeo, so this will not be included in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was publicly put on sale last February. Twitter is no longer part of Odeo, so this will not be included in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zibin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1010189</link>
		<dc:creator>zibin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if podcast is really catching up. So much talk, but so little action. 

I listen to podcast, say , once a week. But how big the podcast community has to become to have enough momentum to fuel sites like odeo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if podcast is really catching up. So much talk, but so little action. </p>
<p>I listen to podcast, say , once a week. But how big the podcast community has to become to have enough momentum to fuel sites like odeo?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Sellers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1001664</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the water rising in the deadpool.</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-1000259</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like a pretty good move.  Faceless audio content that is unpredictable is destined to be a dead medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a pretty good move.  Faceless audio content that is unpredictable is destined to be a dead medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-997647</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not selling the startup. The startup is called Obvious. The product now for sale is Odeo. The newer, hotter product is Twitter, and I dare say it&#039;s catching on.

This is pretty, er, obvious from reading line one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.obvious.com/2007/02/looking-for-odeos-new-home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ev&#039;s blog post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not selling the startup. The startup is called Obvious. The product now for sale is Odeo. The newer, hotter product is Twitter, and I dare say it&#8217;s catching on.</p>
<p>This is pretty, er, obvious from reading line one of <a href="http://blog.obvious.com/2007/02/looking-for-odeos-new-home.html" rel="nofollow">Ev&#8217;s blog post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Only Place Where The Reader is also an Author!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-997131</link>
		<dc:creator>Only Place Where The Reader is also an Author!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many think it will sell for the 5mil he bought it for? or does he even believe it will sell for that much or is he just desperate???? :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many think it will sell for the 5mil he bought it for? or does he even believe it will sell for that much or is he just desperate???? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.randombull.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.randombull.net'>http://www.randombull.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: honestdave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-996799</link>
		<dc:creator>honestdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why can&#039;t i just upload music to odeo?  if they let people do this they could be the youtube of audio.

i am looking for a way to upload music to a site, and imbed a player in my blog.  is that too hard?  i asked this same question &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.techcrunch.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=10233&amp;#10233&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; in the forums

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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.honestforum.com/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HF&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why can&#8217;t i just upload music to odeo?  if they let people do this they could be the youtube of audio.</p>
<p>i am looking for a way to upload music to a site, and imbed a player in my blog.  is that too hard?  i asked this same question <a href="http://forums.techcrunch.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=10233&amp;#10233" rel="nofollow">here</a> in the forums</p>
<p>__<br />
<a href="http://www.honestforum.com/ " rel="nofollow">HF</a></p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-996129</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, their blog is unreachable from where I am currently (China) - timeout.  Apparently, that&#039;s the Great Wall of China in action, as I can reach the site via an anonymous proxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, their blog is unreachable from where I am currently (China) &#8211; timeout.  Apparently, that&#8217;s the Great Wall of China in action, as I can reach the site via an anonymous proxy.</p>
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		<title>By: heri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-995885</link>
		<dc:creator>heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe in the future of podcasting service. i like to think of odeo as youtube, ie a great idea but with usability that can be tweaked. remember that blogs </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe in the future of podcasting service. i like to think of odeo as youtube, ie a great idea but with usability that can be tweaked. remember that blogs</p>
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		<title>By: Ray/MillionReturn.Com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-995162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray/MillionReturn.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, No podcasting service is perfect... I agree that:)

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www.MillionReturn.Com -- Return $1m from 1 page! How?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, No podcasting service is perfect&#8230; I agree that:)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.MillionReturn.Com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.MillionReturn.Com'>http://www.MillionReturn.Com</a> &#8212; Return $1m from 1 page! How?</p>
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		<title>By: Podradio - Hitta, lyssna, prenumerera p&#229; radioprogram, podcasts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-994927</link>
		<dc:creator>Podradio - Hitta, lyssna, prenumerera p&#229; radioprogram, podcasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] På sin företagsblogg skriver Evan Williams om att podradiotjänsten Odeo är till salu [via Techcrunch]. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] På sin företagsblogg skriver Evan Williams om att podradiotjänsten Odeo är till salu [via Techcrunch]. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-994874</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No podcasting service is perfect, but there is a future for Odeo. I think the buyer should combine this with Gabcast -- http://www.gabcast.com, which is a highly robust record-by-phone podcasting serviced based on the Asterisk VoIP platform.

In fact, I got Tom Keating over at TMCNet to cover these guys on two separate occasions, where he points out my Top 5 reasons for using the service as well as my interview with Digium&#039;s then President, Mark Spencer:

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/gabcast-audio-blogger-service.asp

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/asterisk/mark-spencer-podcast-interview.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No podcasting service is perfect, but there is a future for Odeo. I think the buyer should combine this with Gabcast &#8212; <a href="http://www.gabcast.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.gabcast.com'>http://www.gabcast.com</a>, which is a highly robust record-by-phone podcasting serviced based on the Asterisk VoIP platform.</p>
<p>In fact, I got Tom Keating over at TMCNet to cover these guys on two separate occasions, where he points out my Top 5 reasons for using the service as well as my interview with Digium&#8217;s then President, Mark Spencer:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/gabcast-audio-blogger-service.asp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/gabcast-audio-blogger-service.asp'>http://blog.tmc...ger-service.asp</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/asterisk/mark-spencer-podcast-interview.asp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/asterisk/mark-spencer-podcast-interview.asp'>http://blog.tmc...t-interview.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mahemoff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-994693</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mahemoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not surprising. Odeo has never addressed a fundamental flaw in its architecture which prevents anyone using it for more than a few days. The single RSS feed of all subscribed podcasts grows longer and longer and there&#039;s no sensible way to keep it trimmed, e.g. there&#039;s no way to say &quot;keep only the last 100 podcasts&quot; or &quot;keep only podcasts in the last week&quot;. You have to constantly go in and delete them manually, or you end up with  afeed containing thousands of items.

Once a feed hits more than several hundred items, which can happen in a week or so, it&#039;s unusable. ITunes freezes completely and other podcatchers like Juice become virtually unusable.

So Odeo rules out loyal users by design.

Worse, they have done nothing to resolve this problem or even acknowledge it. I blogged about it months ago (http://softwareas.com/odeo-engineering-against-customer-loyalty) and asked their support about it, but never received any response via either avenue. Since then, I&#039;ve been using PodNova, whose website is not as slick, but at least it does what a podcast service is meant to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not surprising. Odeo has never addressed a fundamental flaw in its architecture which prevents anyone using it for more than a few days. The single RSS feed of all subscribed podcasts grows longer and longer and there&#8217;s no sensible way to keep it trimmed, e.g. there&#8217;s no way to say &#8220;keep only the last 100 podcasts&#8221; or &#8220;keep only podcasts in the last week&#8221;. You have to constantly go in and delete them manually, or you end up with  afeed containing thousands of items.</p>
<p>Once a feed hits more than several hundred items, which can happen in a week or so, it&#8217;s unusable. ITunes freezes completely and other podcatchers like Juice become virtually unusable.</p>
<p>So Odeo rules out loyal users by design.</p>
<p>Worse, they have done nothing to resolve this problem or even acknowledge it. I blogged about it months ago (<a href="http://softwareas.com/odeo-engineering-against-customer-loyalty" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://softwareas.com/odeo-engineering-against-customer-loyalty'>http://software...ustomer-loyalty</a>) and asked their support about it, but never received any response via either avenue. Since then, I&#8217;ve been using PodNova, whose website is not as slick, but at least it does what a podcast service is meant to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-994198</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, reflex spelling. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, reflex spelling. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rookie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/19/odeo-put-up-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-994158</link>
		<dc:creator>Rookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Twitter, not Twittr. Also the link is wrong (twitter.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Twitter, not Twittr. Also the link is wrong (twitter.com)</p>
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