Comments on: The Web 2.0 We Weave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:11:16 -0800 hourly 1 By: Another Web 2.0 video « Kevin M Mullins http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-2607667 Another Web 2.0 video « Kevin M Mullins Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:31:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-2607667 [...] 16, 2007 by kevinmmullins Here is another Web 2.0 video. I saw this on Techcrunch and the video is by Michael Wesch, who is an Assistant Professor of Cultural Anthropology, Kansas [...] [...] 16, 2007 by kevinmmullins Here is another Web 2.0 video. I saw this on Techcrunch and the video is by Michael Wesch, who is an Assistant Professor of Cultural Anthropology, Kansas [...]

]]> By: The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » OPLIN 4cast #43 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-2431376 The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » OPLIN 4cast #43 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:19:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-2431376 [...] The Web 2.0 We Weave (TechCrunch) [...] [...] The Web 2.0 We Weave (TechCrunch) [...]

]]> By: GurusBlog » Blog Archive » La revolución de la información http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-1689876 GurusBlog » Blog Archive » La revolución de la información Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:44:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-1689876 [...] El vídeo es obra del Michael Wesch, el mismo que realizó hace unos meses el vídeo titulado “The Web 2.0 We Weave“ [...] [...] El vídeo es obra del Michael Wesch, el mismo que realizó hace unos meses el vídeo titulado “The Web 2.0 We Weave“ [...]

]]> By: bob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-947902 bob Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:25:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-947902 geez, Poland should go back to doing his cheesy flash websites. Video is boring an academic, but was mildly interesting. Blog about it, though, was offbase and immature. Bring back our real blogger / columnist! geez, Poland should go back to doing his cheesy flash websites. Video is boring an academic, but was mildly interesting. Blog about it, though, was offbase and immature. Bring back our real blogger / columnist!

]]> By: bjoern-hornemann.de http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-939609 bjoern-hornemann.de Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:08:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-939609 <strong>Web 2.0 Video & Splashcast...</strong> Geistert derzeit durch diverse tausend Blogs, ich selbst habs bei techcrunch gefunden: Ein großartiger Kurzfilm, der die Entwicklung vom Netz vor 10 Jahren zum “sozialen” Web 2.0 visualisiert. Wenn ich das nächste mal in meinem... Web 2.0 Video & Splashcast…

Geistert derzeit durch diverse tausend Blogs, ich selbst habs bei techcrunch gefunden: Ein großartiger Kurzfilm, der die Entwicklung vom Netz vor 10 Jahren zum “sozialen” Web 2.0 visualisiert. Wenn ich das nächste mal in meinem…

]]> By: Mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-938772 Mike Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:05:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-938772 I read a book called "Out of Control" years ago (by Kevin Kelly, formerly of Wired Magazine) that talked about the emergent behavior of groups. Bees have hives, Ants have colonies, etc. An ant hive is capable of building and doing amazing things, but each individual ant is essentially an idiot. The hive does an excellent job of sharing limited relevant info (food is here, danger is over there, etc.), and the behavior emerges. We are turning from a grab and hold society into a sharing one, and we will find that it benefits us immensely. That NY Magazine article mentioned above (http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/index7.html) is proof that it's happening. Sharing will require us to rethink privacy, copyright, etc. and the benefits will be worth it. We are essentially turning ourselves into a hive of geniuses, where all individuals have instant access to all knowledge. I'm not aware of a precedent for this, and the emergent behavior of the group will therefore be something new. Can't wait to see what we become. What's the relevance to 2.0? Well, maybe this kind of roadmap will help us all figure out where to build our ideas and place our investment dollars. I read a book called “Out of Control” years ago (by Kevin Kelly, formerly of Wired Magazine) that talked about the emergent behavior of groups. Bees have hives, Ants have colonies, etc.

An ant hive is capable of building and doing amazing things, but each individual ant is essentially an idiot. The hive does an excellent job of sharing limited relevant info (food is here, danger is over there, etc.), and the behavior emerges.

We are turning from a grab and hold society into a sharing one, and we will find that it benefits us immensely. That NY Magazine article mentioned above (http://nymag.co...341/index7.html) is proof that it’s happening. Sharing will require us to rethink privacy, copyright, etc. and the benefits will be worth it.

We are essentially turning ourselves into a hive of geniuses, where all individuals have instant access to all knowledge. I’m not aware of a precedent for this, and the emergent behavior of the group will therefore be something new. Can’t wait to see what we become.

What’s the relevance to 2.0? Well, maybe this kind of roadmap will help us all figure out where to build our ideas and place our investment dollars.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-938148 John Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:16:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-938148 Great video! He posted the full-rez version of the video to MediaFire too. http://www.mediafire.com/?6duzg3zioyd It's better without the compression artifiacts :) Great video! He posted the full-rez version of the video to MediaFire too.
http://www.medi...om/?6duzg3zioyd

It’s better without the compression artifiacts :)

]]> By: Andrew Mager http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-937506 Andrew Mager Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:43:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-937506 Michael, I totally agree with everything you said. I showed this video to an Advanced Reporting class at Virginia Tech yesterday and they were speechless. -Andrew Michael,

I totally agree with everything you said.

I showed this video to an Advanced Reporting class at Virginia Tech yesterday and they were speechless.

-Andrew

]]> By: Raj http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-937283 Raj Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:44:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-937283 Love the video angle. Different. Love the video angle. Different.

]]> By: RqTect http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-936775 RqTect Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:40:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-936775 BlogYarn is what we weave the web with. Copyright 2006-2007 BlogYarn is what we weave the web with. Copyright 2006-2007

]]> By: Anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-936225 Anon Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:30:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-936225 MA wrote: "I’m sure there’s data to back me up on this, but today compared to 10 years ago — people are way more comfortable with the Internet and have less privacy concerns." Well, check this out: http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/ MA wrote: “I’m sure there’s data to back me up on this, but today compared to 10 years ago — people are way more comfortable with the Internet and have less privacy concerns.”

Well, check this out: http://nymag.co...features/27341/

]]> By: sam http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-934633 sam Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:01:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-934633 so... let me get this straight. the huge amount of blog posting is good, and maybe we can sort through it, and some machine might learn from it... and then do what... immediately commit suicide, kill all the people who created this crap, what exactly would this higher power do... i'm sorry, forgive me. it wouldn't be a higher power.. if it learned/grew based on the blog stuff as a whole, the new intelligence would have an IQ of what.. 38??? it would be a blathering piece of protoplasm!!! good lord... how old is this steve guy???? peace so…

let me get this straight. the huge amount of blog posting is good, and maybe we can sort through it, and some machine might learn from it… and then do what…

immediately commit suicide, kill all the people who created this crap, what exactly would this higher power do… i’m sorry, forgive me. it wouldn’t be a higher power.. if it learned/grew based on the blog stuff as a whole, the new intelligence would have an IQ of what.. 38???

it would be a blathering piece of protoplasm!!!

good lord… how old is this steve guy????

peace

]]> By: Jen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-934568 Jen Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:43:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-934568 According to Michael Wesch, this terrific video is still in draft form. He's soliticing feedback through an online annotation tool on Mojiti.com and calls it "an exciting experiment in 'Video 2.0'". You can see it and even add your own comments at: http://mojiti.com/kan/2024/3313 According to Michael Wesch, this terrific video is still in draft form. He’s soliticing feedback through an online annotation tool on Mojiti.com and calls it “an exciting experiment in ‘Video 2.0′”.

You can see it and even add your own comments at:
http://mojiti.c...m/kan/2024/3313

]]> By: andre http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-934475 andre Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:22:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-934475 I liked the video... if there's one thing they forgot.. it's the one true constant of social media ... non stop sarcasm. babababooya I liked the video…

if there’s one thing they forgot.. it’s the one true constant of social media
… non stop sarcasm.

babababooya

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-934215 Greg Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:24:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-934215 I think my favorite part of that was that the guy made typos on some of the text. It just makes it seem that much more authentic. I think my favorite part of that was that the guy made typos on some of the text. It just makes it seem that much more authentic.

]]> By: met http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-934115 met Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:05:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-934115 Seriously... is that what you got from the video? AI would be devoid of "us" in a sense (atleast thats the idealization). The message here I suppose was that "we" constitute the system. "We" develop the system to make it what it is today. Its no different from looking at a work of art and saying that art has an existence because of the artist's work. Except that in this case the artist is a collaborative work by all of "us". I'm sure that there was more to it than I could understand, but its NOT about AI. Seriously… is that what you got from the video? AI would be devoid of “us” in a sense (atleast thats the idealization).
The message here I suppose was that “we” constitute the system. “We” develop the system to make it what it is today.

Its no different from looking at a work of art and saying that art has an existence because of the artist’s work. Except that in this case the artist is a collaborative work by all of “us”.

I’m sure that there was more to it than I could understand, but its NOT about AI.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933921 Jordan Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:59:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933921 "Maybe someone will be smart enough to learn / organize people’s thoughts / ideas / feelings and search will revolutionize from the poor “search results” experience we are complacent with (and have come to expect)" I don't think it's someONE, I think it's US. Search engines organize content with machines, devoid of any emotion or behavior, and rank results by a small percentage of the Web's users (the "popular" users that vote with their links). What if ALL OF US were the crawlers/spiders, and what if the content was indexed by our behaviors and interests? I really liked the video. I also like the new implementation of the Snap thing -- much less intrusive. “Maybe someone will be smart enough to learn / organize people’s thoughts / ideas / feelings and search will revolutionize from the poor “search results” experience we are complacent with (and have come to expect)”

I don’t think it’s someONE, I think it’s US.

Search engines organize content with machines, devoid of any emotion or behavior, and rank results by a small percentage of the Web’s users (the “popular” users that vote with their links).

What if ALL OF US were the crawlers/spiders, and what if the content was indexed by our behaviors and interests?

I really liked the video. I also like the new implementation of the Snap thing — much less intrusive.

]]> By: Neil http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933854 Neil Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:49:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933854 Steve, I think that you're in a great position to know about the current development of AI - just take a look at all the startups, such as Hakia.com, that are trying to find meaning on the Web. If we can prove 'strong AI', then we'll probably do it first through an application on the web. Once people have all the information available as soon as their brain needs it, we reach a point where only new and unanswered questions will be voiced and heard. This would make life very different. This is why I think the mobile web, in combination with an empowering mobile interface, will be a tipping point. Just take a look at the FAQ sections in discussion forums - repeat one of those questions in a sub-forum and you'll be sorry. Communities ask questions and then answer them, and they want don't the same question to be repeated. Steve, I think that you’re in a great position to know about the current development of AI – just take a look at all the startups, such as Hakia.com, that are trying to find meaning on the Web. If we can prove ’strong AI’, then we’ll probably do it first through an application on the web.

Once people have all the information available as soon as their brain needs it, we reach a point where only new and unanswered questions will be voiced and heard. This would make life very different. This is why I think the mobile web, in combination with an empowering mobile interface, will be a tipping point.

Just take a look at the FAQ sections in discussion forums – repeat one of those questions in a sub-forum and you’ll be sorry. Communities ask questions and then answer them, and they want don’t the same question to be repeated.

]]> By: Nik Cubrilovic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933828 Nik Cubrilovic Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:45:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933828 aha! finally caught the guy who has been replacing good wikipedia pages with crazy web philosophy aha! finally caught the guy who has been replacing good wikipedia pages with crazy web philosophy

]]> By: Mark http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933785 Mark Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:36:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933785 Nice video. But it's nice more through the way it presents itself than it is in presenting information. Typical American drama, boasting about something that isn't even there. Web 2.0, yeah right. I am myself 2.0, because I now know how to do my own laundry. What ever. Nice video. But it’s nice more through the way it presents itself than it is in presenting information. Typical American drama, boasting about something that isn’t even there.
Web 2.0, yeah right. I am myself 2.0, because I now know how to do my own laundry. What ever.

]]> By: Frank Gruber http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933614 Frank Gruber Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:03:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933614 You might want to check this article out about the web 2.0 video that Steve just mentioned above: http://insidehighered.com/news/2007/02/07/web It chronicles the viral circulation of Michael Wusch's wonderful video. You might want to check this article out about the web 2.0 video that Steve just mentioned above: http://insidehi.../2007/02/07/web
It chronicles the viral circulation of Michael Wusch’s wonderful video.

]]> By: Jesper Rønn-Jensen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933605 Jesper Rønn-Jensen Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:01:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933605 As a further collaborative experiment, I actually did a transcript of Professor Wesch's movie. http://justaddwater.dk/2007/02/08/web-20-video-complete-transcript/ Using Web 2.0 tools like google docs, it was actually super fast, efficient and fun to collaboratively jot the text down. When 2 people adds to the same document simultaneously, there is a great motivation factor and joy in working that way. As a further collaborative experiment, I actually did a transcript of Professor Wesch’s movie.

http://justaddw...ete-transcript/

Using Web 2.0 tools like google docs, it was actually super fast, efficient and fun to collaboratively jot the text down. When 2 people adds to the same document simultaneously, there is a great motivation factor and joy in working that way.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933557 Morgan Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:53:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933557 "whereas XML has separated form and content, facilitating data exchange for all kinds of mash-ups." This is much less true than people like to think. Have a look at the source of the XHTML sites out there, it's as full of layout hacks as tables ever were, and much more complicated to use. Just read the variety of 'techniques' on something like alistapart, it's ridiculous. The data for mashups rarely if ever comes from this separation, but from totally separate feeds specifically for data exchange. They are two totally different things. It's not as if Amazon just applies a stylesheet to ECS and that's their catalog. “whereas XML has separated form and content, facilitating data exchange for all kinds of mash-ups.”

This is much less true than people like to think. Have a look at the source of the XHTML sites out there, it’s as full of layout hacks as tables ever were, and much more complicated to use. Just read the variety of ‘techniques’ on something like alistapart, it’s ridiculous.

The data for mashups rarely if ever comes from this separation, but from totally separate feeds specifically for data exchange. They are two totally different things. It’s not as if Amazon just applies a stylesheet to ECS and that’s their catalog.

]]> By: Chris O'Neal http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933538 Chris O'Neal Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:50:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933538 Also goes to show how our schools and classrooms should be taking advantage of Web 2.0, etc. and using it in educational ways also so classrooms can at least somewhat reflect "the real world." Also goes to show how our schools and classrooms should be taking advantage of Web 2.0, etc. and using it in educational ways also so classrooms can at least somewhat reflect “the real world.”

]]> By: savvix http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/comment-page-1/#comment-933508 savvix Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:44:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/12/the-web-20-we-weave/#comment-933508 You know since the beginning of the year deadpool entries have sorta dried up. I guess the Web2.0 "doom" predictions have been premature. LOL. You know since the beginning of the year deadpool entries have sorta dried up. I guess the Web2.0 “doom” predictions have been premature. LOL.

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