Comments on: Nice One, Walmart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:12:50 -0800 hourly 1 By: WalMart Video Download Store Blunder - Blogopreneur.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-3016540 WalMart Video Download Store Blunder - Blogopreneur.com Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:14:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-3016540 [...] at TechCrunch today, Michael Arrington shared his findings on the messed up WalMart Video Download Store on Firefox. Although from the comments it seems that the problem can be fixed with a hard refresh [...] [...] at TechCrunch today, Michael Arrington shared his findings on the messed up WalMart Video Download Store on Firefox. Although from the comments it seems that the problem can be fixed with a hard refresh [...]

]]> By: DIY Tip: Are Other Browsers Killing Your Website? | ineedhits http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-2643074 DIY Tip: Are Other Browsers Killing Your Website? | ineedhits Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:32:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-2643074 [...] These differences can have a dramatic impact on how a web page is displayed; just check out the Wal-Mart video download site in firefox. The best way to minimize these problems is to pay attention to browser compatibility [...] [...] These differences can have a dramatic impact on how a web page is displayed; just check out the Wal-Mart video download site in firefox. The best way to minimize these problems is to pay attention to browser compatibility [...]

]]> By: Wal-Mart kills video download service - Top Stocks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-1883052 Wal-Mart kills video download service - Top Stocks Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:03:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-1883052 [...] think HP would yank the engine powering it?The reality is that few people used it. Those who did were not impressed. On paper, the service sounded great. All the major movie studios participated. New releases cost [...] [...] think HP would yank the engine powering it?The reality is that few people used it. Those who did were not impressed. On paper, the service sounded great. All the major movie studios participated. New releases cost [...]

]]> By: Walmart Blocks Other Browsers/Platforms | Robert Accettura’s Fun With Wordage http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-1587474 Walmart Blocks Other Browsers/Platforms | Robert Accettura’s Fun With Wordage Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:02:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-1587474 [...] on Mac OS X 10.4 and still wasn’t able to get in (they wanted me to still download IE 6). As noted by TechCrunch, initially it looked like someone didn’t include the stylesheet correctly. Now it’s [...] [...] on Mac OS X 10.4 and still wasn’t able to get in (they wanted me to still download IE 6). As noted by TechCrunch, initially it looked like someone didn’t include the stylesheet correctly. Now it’s [...]

]]> By: GG, Google and Walmart! You guys deserve a little Smack! at the Smack Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-1249325 GG, Google and Walmart! You guys deserve a little Smack! at the Smack Blog Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:45:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-1249325 [...] Second one, from Walmart - Nice one Walmart (original article can be found here.) [...] [...] Second one, from Walmart – Nice one Walmart (original article can be found here.) [...]

]]> By: coel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-972908 coel Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:52:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-972908 And they just take the easy way out by spitting up an error message when you view the site using firefox and give a link to download Internet Explorer. Well, that's just not how they should be doing business. If I was a loyal firefox user, they would lose my business for good - even after they do fix the problem. And they just take the easy way out by spitting up an error message when you view the site using firefox and give a link to download Internet Explorer. Well, that’s just not how they should be doing business. If I was a loyal firefox user, they would lose my business for good – even after they do fix the problem.

]]> By: Rantings of a New Yorker » Blog Archive » Wal-Mart is Angering its Customers Again http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-937993 Rantings of a New Yorker » Blog Archive » Wal-Mart is Angering its Customers Again Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:37:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-937993 [...] launched it’s download video service last week but it’s only available to those who use Internet Explorer.  If you use another browser, [...] [...] launched it’s download video service last week but it’s only available to those who use Internet Explorer.  If you use another browser, [...]

]]> By: mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-931710 mike Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:08:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-931710 walmart didn't do this on accident, their code isn't nearly complex enough to make it unreasonable for one person to figure out the problem and fix it. from what I can see, they only meant for the music to be downloaded using IE w/ DRM protection [to prevent illegal copying] which makes tons of sense considering no one intending to illegally copy music would ever be caught alive in walmart. since they don't intend it to be used by anything but IE, walmart didn't put the effort into making it multi-browser complient. if firefox and safari bowed to DRM like IE did this would probably not be an issue. and here's why walmart isn't going to do anything: safari and firefox make up roughly 12% or so of the entire browser population- walmart naturally deemed 12% to be "insignificant." they are unfortunately, willing and able to get away with it. walmart didn’t do this on accident, their code isn’t nearly complex enough to make it unreasonable for one person to figure out the problem and fix it. from what I can see, they only meant for the music to be downloaded using IE w/ DRM protection [to prevent illegal copying] which makes tons of sense considering no one intending to illegally copy music would ever be caught alive in walmart. since they don’t intend it to be used by anything but IE, walmart didn’t put the effort into making it multi-browser complient. if firefox and safari bowed to DRM like IE did this would probably not be an issue. and here’s why walmart isn’t going to do anything: safari and firefox make up roughly 12% or so of the entire browser population- walmart naturally deemed 12% to be “insignificant.” they are unfortunately, willing and able to get away with it.

]]> By: Message To Wal-Mart: To Hell With You, Then! at Maggie and Charles http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-930477 Message To Wal-Mart: To Hell With You, Then! at Maggie and Charles Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:22:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-930477 [...] week, Walmart launched their online video download service. Immediately there were posts that the service did not work with the Firefox or Safari browsers. There was a collective, [...] [...] week, Walmart launched their online video download service. Immediately there were posts that the service did not work with the Firefox or Safari browsers. There was a collective, [...]

]]> By: Welcome to PattersonGrafiks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928530 Welcome to PattersonGrafiks Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:31:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928530 [...] This blog, shows what the site looked like in Firefox before Wal-Mart locked down their website. Terrible CSS/XHTML skills going on there. [...] [...] This blog, shows what the site looked like in Firefox before Wal-Mart locked down their website. Terrible CSS/XHTML skills going on there. [...]

]]> By: Welcome to PattersonGrafiks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928528 Welcome to PattersonGrafiks Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:31:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928528 [...] This blog, shows what the site looked like in Firefox before Wal-Mart locked down their website. Terrible CSS/XHTML skills going on there. [...] [...] This blog, shows what the site looked like in Firefox before Wal-Mart locked down their website. Terrible CSS/XHTML skills going on there. [...]

]]> By: WalMart Boycotting Everything Non-Microsoft http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928428 WalMart Boycotting Everything Non-Microsoft Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:56:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928428 [...] few days ago I found a story on Techcrunch that showed a screenshot of how WalMart’s new online video store was borked for anyone using [...] [...] few days ago I found a story on Techcrunch that showed a screenshot of how WalMart’s new online video store was borked for anyone using [...]

]]> By: sean http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928377 sean Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:27:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928377 well, at last check, the site is down for maintenance (feb11, 12:15pm toronto time). i tried to change my user agent in camino to see what would happen. i see trichognosis scooped me on the user agent thingy but ahwell. i can only wonder if walmart is changing their sight after the onslaught of bad press. my guess is they went with IE purely because of vista/ms drm and the mpaa (Movies' Puritanical Asshole Assholciation). well, at last check, the site is down for maintenance (feb11, 12:15pm toronto time).

i tried to change my user agent in camino to see what would happen. i see trichognosis scooped me on the user agent thingy but ahwell.

i can only wonder if walmart is changing their sight after the onslaught of bad press. my guess is they went with IE purely because of vista/ms drm and the mpaa (Movies’ Puritanical Asshole Assholciation).

]]> By: Design by CSS » Wal-Mart Does Not Support Firefox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928366 Design by CSS » Wal-Mart Does Not Support Firefox Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:42:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928366 [...] Tuesday of this week, Michael Arrington of TechCrunch pointed out on the TechCrunch blog that Wal-Mart had mistakes in the code of their brand new video site that prevented the CSS from loading in Firefox. The blog post has a [...] [...] Tuesday of this week, Michael Arrington of TechCrunch pointed out on the TechCrunch blog that Wal-Mart had mistakes in the code of their brand new video site that prevented the CSS from loading in Firefox. The blog post has a [...]

]]> By: Walmart in bed with Microsoft? Walmart says NO to Firefox, Mac, Apple « TechAddress http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928362 Walmart in bed with Microsoft? Walmart says NO to Firefox, Mac, Apple « TechAddress Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:21:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928362 [...] week, Walmart launched their online video download service. Immediately there were posts that the service did not work with the Firefox or Safari [...] [...] week, Walmart launched their online video download service. Immediately there were posts that the service did not work with the Firefox or Safari [...]

]]> By: Walmart’s clever little Firefox ploy · Jeremy David’s Old Website http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928314 Walmart’s clever little Firefox ploy · Jeremy David’s Old Website Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:43:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928314 [...] Internet Exploror. News has erupted on the internet about this atrocity, and everyone is talking about it. [...] [...] Internet Exploror. News has erupted on the internet about this atrocity, and everyone is talking about it. [...]

]]> By: trichognosis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-928252 trichognosis Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:09:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-928252 I went there with Safari and couldn't get in... then I flushed my cookies with "Reset Safari" from the menu items, enabled the Safari debug menu, chose "user agent Windows MSIE 6", and went to: http://mediadownloads.walmart.com/index.php Which promptly loaded up just fine with just a smidgeon of smeared text in the upper left corner ("Welcome Guest") and a missing header of some sort with a reference to a non-existent plug-in. Mind you, then clicking on Category Links doesn't load anything... but clicking on an actor in the upper right results in an excruciatingly long load time of a java applet. Wal-Mart is evil and all, but this WAS labeled Beta. Still, if they lock out non-IE users forever they're even biggers fools than I'd thought. Or is it just that non-IE users are less likely to shop at Wal-mart in the first place and they figure "Screw it, we won't get enough business from those users to justify fixing the code...It's just not cost-effective!"..? I went there with Safari and couldn’t get in… then I flushed my cookies with “Reset Safari” from the menu items, enabled the Safari debug menu, chose “user agent Windows MSIE 6″, and went to:

http://mediadow...t.com/index.php

Which promptly loaded up just fine with just a smidgeon of smeared text in the upper left corner (”Welcome Guest”) and a missing header of some sort with a reference to a non-existent plug-in. Mind you, then clicking on Category Links doesn’t load anything… but clicking on an actor in the upper right results in an excruciatingly long load time of a java applet.

Wal-Mart is evil and all, but this WAS labeled Beta. Still, if they lock out non-IE users forever they’re even biggers fools than I’d thought. Or is it just that non-IE users are less likely to shop at Wal-mart in the first place and they figure “Screw it, we won’t get enough business from those users to justify fixing the code…It’s just not cost-effective!”..?

]]> By: Allen Stern http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-927232 Allen Stern Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:07:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-927232 Looks like they have blocked firefox all together now... http://www.centernetworks.com/walmart-in-bed-with-microsoft-no-to-firefox Looks like they have blocked firefox all together now…
http://www.cent...t-no-to-firefox

]]> By: Matt Emery http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-912574 Matt Emery Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:49:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-912574 "it seems the whitespace between the document header and the html tag might be the problem" Thanks George. “it seems the whitespace between the document header and the html tag might be the problem”

Thanks George.

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-907548 Dave Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:34:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-907548 Firefox uses don't go to Wal-Mart. :-) Firefox uses don’t go to Wal-Mart. :-)

]]> By: Dan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-907336 Dan Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:09:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-907336 If they're looking for a new designer (the current team probably got fired for this) I'm open... :-) If they’re looking for a new designer (the current team probably got fired for this) I’m open… :-)

]]> By: =bg= http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-900760 =bg= Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:15:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-900760 rule #1 prior to going live. test compat. with major browsers. IE 6 AND 7..FF2. Maybe Safari. Anything else doesn't count yet. rule #2 back up everything. rule#3 punch that publish button. whoever didn't test FF is clueless. A techy crowd that downloads movies would almost 100% know of and also use FF. rule #1 prior to going live. test compat. with major browsers. IE 6 AND 7..FF2. Maybe Safari. Anything else doesn’t count yet.

rule #2 back up everything.

rule#3 punch that publish button.

whoever didn’t test FF is clueless. A techy crowd that downloads movies would almost 100% know of and also use FF.

]]> By: Smjohn http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-900430 Smjohn Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:29:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-900430 They still (02/07/2007 - 5:30 pm) haven't figured out how to fix it. Seems like that's what you get when you hire cheap programmers "Always the low price. Always" They still (02/07/2007 – 5:30 pm) haven’t figured out how to fix it. Seems like that’s what you get when you hire cheap programmers “Always the low price. Always”

]]> By: Chad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-898763 Chad Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:48:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-898763 "If you don’t use IE to surf the web… you don’t deserve to surf the web." I beg to differ. Firefox is much more compatible with more websites than IE has ever been. As a web developer I find that more often than not I have to work harder to make pages and templates display properly in IE than I do for firefox. I've seen many pages that were broken like heck in IE but displayed without a single problem in firefox. Firefox “If you don’t use IE to surf the web… you don’t deserve to surf the web.”

I beg to differ. Firefox is much more compatible with more websites than IE has ever been. As a web developer I find that more often than not I have to work harder to make pages and templates display properly in IE than I do for firefox. I’ve seen many pages that were broken like heck in IE but displayed without a single problem in firefox.

Firefox

]]> By: Thodoris http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/comment-page-2/#comment-898237 Thodoris Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:05:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/06/nice-one-walmart/#comment-898237 Dumb fools! I saw it today but I thought that they had a system disfanctionality... This is even worse! Dumb fools! I saw it today but I thought that they had a system disfanctionality… This is even worse!

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