Comments on: GooTube Slammed By Viacom Takedown Demand http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/ Startup and Tech News Sat, 17 May 2008 05:40:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: NBC Piles On Google - YouTube Strategy in Question http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-2302173 NBC Piles On Google - YouTube Strategy in Question Fri, 16 May 2008 23:11:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-2302173 [...] that he trashed YouTube, using words very similar to those chosen by Viacom a week ago when they demanded YouTube remove over 100,000 video clips. The words, in fact, are so close that the two events almost seen [...] […] that he trashed YouTube, using words very similar to those chosen by Viacom a week ago when they demanded YouTube remove over 100,000 video clips. The words, in fact, are so close that the two events almost seen […]

]]> By: Viacom Drops a $1 Billion Nuke on Google http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-2302170 Viacom Drops a $1 Billion Nuke on Google Fri, 16 May 2008 23:08:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-2302170 [...] across that they were displeased with the Google/YouTube, Viacom has chosen the frontal assault: Massive takedown notices and now the simple request for $1 billion in [...] […] across that they were displeased with the Google/YouTube, Viacom has chosen the frontal assault: Massive takedown notices and now the simple request for $1 billion in […]

]]> By: No Viacom Videos For YouTube » Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1619984 No Viacom Videos For YouTube » Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:47:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1619984 [...] Reading: Business 2.0 Beta, Jeff Jarvis, TechCrunch, Conversion [...] […] Reading: Business 2.0 Beta, Jeff Jarvis, TechCrunch, Conversion […]

]]> By: The Future Of Copyright Protection Is Here And It Costs $11 An Hour http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1544495 The Future Of Copyright Protection Is Here And It Costs $11 An Hour Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:41:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1544495 [...] most notable client is Viacom, which it supplied with the data for their 100,000 video DMCA takedown request last year. Viacom says it pays BayTSP more than $100,000 each month for the service. The takedown [...] […] most notable client is Viacom, which it supplied with the data for their 100,000 video DMCA takedown request last year. Viacom says it pays BayTSP more than $100,000 each month for the service. The takedown […]

]]> By: You Tube Updates | techbits http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1397182 You Tube Updates | techbits Sat, 26 May 2007 14:08:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1397182 [...] to its MTV, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon websites rose sharply over the past month” since they demanded that YouTube pull down over 100,000 clips. This conflicts with a previous statement (sort of, indirectly) by CBS that promotional clips on [...] […] to its MTV, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon websites rose sharply over the past month” since they demanded that YouTube pull down over 100,000 clips. This conflicts with a previous statement (sort of, indirectly) by CBS that promotional clips on […]

]]> By: e5k | Affaire Viacom: Google ne se laissera pas faire http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1368806 e5k | Affaire Viacom: Google ne se laissera pas faire Tue, 08 May 2007 12:03:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1368806 [...] a répondu à l’attaque de Viacom qui le poursuit pour violation de copyright et réclame 1 milliard de dollars. Leur réponse : nous nous battrons devant un jury [...] […] a répondu à l’attaque de Viacom qui le poursuit pour violation de copyright et réclame 1 milliard de dollars. Leur réponse : nous nous battrons devant un jury […]

]]> By: Warum verklagt Viacom YouTube auf 1 Mrd. Dollar? | Digitaler Film http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1368534 Warum verklagt Viacom YouTube auf 1 Mrd. Dollar? | Digitaler Film Tue, 08 May 2007 07:02:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1368534 [...] das eigene Programm zu promoten und Benutzer zu gewinnen und zu binden. Dazu hatte man YouTube aufgefordert 100 000 Viacom Videos zu entfernen um die Inhalte exklusiv über die genannten Viacom-Seiten zu vertreiben. Leider funktioniert die [...] […] das eigene Programm zu promoten und Benutzer zu gewinnen und zu binden. Dazu hatte man YouTube aufgefordert 100 000 Viacom Videos zu entfernen um die Inhalte exklusiv über die genannten Viacom-Seiten zu vertreiben. Leider funktioniert die […]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Affaire Viacom: Google ne se laissera pas faire http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1357156 TechCrunch en français » Affaire Viacom: Google ne se laissera pas faire Tue, 01 May 2007 12:56:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1357156 [...] a répondu à l’attaque de Viacom qui le poursuit pour violation de copyright et réclame 1 milliard de dollars. Leur réponse : nous nous battrons devant un jury [...] […] a répondu à l’attaque de Viacom qui le poursuit pour violation de copyright et réclame 1 milliard de dollars. Leur réponse : nous nous battrons devant un jury […]

]]> By: Multimedias.mobi » Viacom Snubs Google Again, Partners With Yahoo On Search Advertising http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1325486 Multimedias.mobi » Viacom Snubs Google Again, Partners With Yahoo On Search Advertising Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:14:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1325486 [...] hasn’t been gentle with Google this year. In February they slammed Google/YouTube with a massive DMCA take down demand (and an equally massive press outreach). A month later they sued Google for a billion dollars. [...] […] hasn’t been gentle with Google this year. In February they slammed Google/YouTube with a massive DMCA take down demand (and an equally massive press outreach). A month later they sued Google for a billion dollars. […]

]]> By: KtecK Blog - Syndicated » Viacom to Sign Deal with Joost http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1027696 KtecK Blog - Syndicated » Viacom to Sign Deal with Joost Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:11:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-1027696 [...] weeks after Viacom ordered Google to take down more than 100,000 allegedly copyrighted videos from YouTube, the media giant is about [...] […] weeks after Viacom ordered Google to take down more than 100,000 allegedly copyrighted videos from YouTube, the media giant is about […]

]]> By: youtube employee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-951372 youtube employee Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:15:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-951372 i think this is sad...if viacom has to sue becuase there videos are crap...then they should just give up... i think this is sad…if viacom has to sue becuase there videos are crap…then they should just give up…

]]> By: jay http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-948398 jay Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-948398 Rather than ordering YouTube to take down copyrighted material that will inevitably resurface on dailymotion and other sites, Viacom and other copyright holders should actively push their own channels on YouTube and other video sites. This will give them better control over their content and finally a great viral marketing effect. Rather than ordering YouTube to take down copyrighted material that will inevitably resurface on dailymotion and other sites, Viacom and other copyright holders should actively push their own channels on YouTube and other video sites. This will give them better control over their content and finally a great viral marketing effect.

]]> By: College Marketing 4.0 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-939180 College Marketing 4.0 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:29:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-939180 <strong>Idiots, YouTube, Viacom, and the Stupidity of Media...</strong> Rant: Viacom now DEMANDING that YouTube/Google remove over 100,000 clips of Viacom content, MTV clips/South Park/Daily Show etc. I have, despite this being only my 20th some odd blog post, talked about YouTube content many times. Stupid, stupid, stupid... Idiots, YouTube, Viacom, and the Stupidity of Media…

Rant: Viacom now DEMANDING that YouTube/Google remove over 100,000 clips of Viacom content, MTV clips/South Park/Daily Show etc. I have, despite this being only my 20th some odd blog post, talked about YouTube content many times. Stupid, stupid, stupid…

]]> By: ::lemonup:: - News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » YouTube Hands Over User’s Info to Fox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-938437 ::lemonup:: - News, Technology, sports, cars, movie, video, blog, travel, mp3, picture, computer, notebook » YouTube Hands Over User’s Info to Fox Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:18:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-938437 [...] with the Viacom purge, harsh words from NBC and now this all occurring in the first half of February, it’s possible [...] […] with the Viacom purge, harsh words from NBC and now this all occurring in the first half of February, it’s possible […]

]]> By: YouTube Hands Over User’s Info to Fox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-938178 YouTube Hands Over User’s Info to Fox Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:24:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-938178 [...] with the Viacom purge, harsh words from NBC and now this all occurring in the first half of February, it’s possible [...] […] with the Viacom purge, harsh words from NBC and now this all occurring in the first half of February, it’s possible […]

]]> By: 4664部落格 - 嬰兒潮的心情 - For Baby Boomer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-928569 4664部落格 - 嬰兒潮的心情 - For Baby Boomer Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:35:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-928569 <strong>股凸(GooTube)被Viacom用拆除令打了一巴掌...</strong> 股溝(Google)今天被Viacom用拆除令打了一巴掌，拆除令要求股凸(GooTube)下架100,000 MTV，天天秀，南方公園BET及其他有著作權的東西。這是在兩家公司幾個月以來，由股溝(Google)付Viacom數位內容補償... 股凸(GooTube)被Viacom用拆除令打了一巴掌…

股溝(Google)今天被Viacom用拆除令打了一巴掌，拆除令要求股凸(GooTube)下架100,000 MTV，天天秀，南方公園BET及其他有著作權的東西。這是在兩家公司幾個月以來，由股溝(Google)付Viacom數位內容補償…

]]> By: Drew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-870707 Drew Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:41:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-870707 Why should VIA help GOOG become another intermediary? Here comes the internet that gives VIA and its content buddies the opportunity to bypass the Comcasts and TimeWarner Cables. But now GOOG wants to reinsert itself in the flow so that the 1st place a viewer goes to see last night's Colbert report is YouTube not MotherLode. It makes no sense for VIA et al to give GooTube anything at all. There's no financial settlement that makes sense. This is war without end. Why should VIA help GOOG become another intermediary? Here comes the internet that gives VIA and its content buddies the opportunity to bypass the Comcasts and TimeWarner Cables. But now GOOG wants to reinsert itself in the flow so that the 1st place a viewer goes to see last night’s Colbert report is YouTube not MotherLode. It makes no sense for VIA et al to give GooTube anything at all. There’s no financial settlement that makes sense. This is war without end.

]]> By: Blaze http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-869523 Blaze Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:20:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-869523 #14 makes a very good point. Listen to him suits! ;) #14 makes a very good point. Listen to him suits! ;)

]]> By: Lessons from 100,000 clips Pulled http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-864564 Lessons from 100,000 clips Pulled Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:54:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-864564 Both YouTube and Viacom can actually learn something from this exercise of taking these 100,000 video clips off the Internet, in the sense that YouTube gets to study the impact -- will there be a significant decrease of YouTube users? And Viacom has a chance to see if their shows, like "The Daily Show", will suffer from the lack of promotional benefit. A July/2006 report indicated that, at the time, YouTube was getting 65,000 videos uploaded to its site every 24 hours. The number must be much higher today, so 100,000 clips is about one-day worth of videos uploaded to YouTube. Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtube Some may argue that these 100,000 video clips are the more popular ones. Not necessarily. Remember, YouTube is an international phenomenon; you can find things like Korean soaps, Taiwanese pops, and Turkish tv like this one that has nearly 300,000 hits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhP3GVvZ8w Both YouTube and Viacom can actually learn something from this exercise of taking these 100,000 video clips off the Internet, in the sense that YouTube gets to study the impact — will there be a significant decrease of YouTube users? And Viacom has a chance to see if their shows, like “The Daily Show”, will suffer from the lack of promotional benefit.

A July/2006 report indicated that, at the time, YouTube was getting 65,000 videos uploaded to its site every 24 hours. The number must be much higher today, so 100,000 clips is about one-day worth of videos uploaded to YouTube. Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtube

Some may argue that these 100,000 video clips are the more popular ones. Not necessarily. Remember, YouTube is an international phenomenon; you can find things like Korean soaps, Taiwanese pops, and Turkish tv like this one that has nearly 300,000 hits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhP3GVvZ8w

]]> By: Anthony http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-864498 Anthony Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:45:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-864498 How has google been "slammed"? Sure if you show me a drop in there traffic then I might agree. And why are we being lame calling YouTube GooTube. Are we going to add part of Google's name to every company they buy out in the future? How has google been “slammed”? Sure if you show me a drop in there traffic then I might agree. And why are we being lame calling YouTube GooTube. Are we going to add part of Google’s name to every company they buy out in the future?

]]> By: NY Times: Google offered Viacom $100 million a year http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863965 NY Times: Google offered Viacom $100 million a year Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:24:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863965 To Michael #37, Here is the New York Times article today that mentions the $100 million offer: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/technology/03tube.html From the article (midway through): "Reports have been circulating in the industry that Google had offered to pay $100 million a year for the use of Viacom’s programming..." If that is true, we're talking about fairly normal business negotiation drama, not unlike "union vs. management" contract negotiations, say, between SAG and the movie studios. Regarding the "Lesson from George Lucas", I hope I don't have to spell out Lucas's secret to the Viacom execs: "Embrace your fans". To Michael #37,

Here is the New York Times article today that mentions the $100 million offer:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02.....3tube.html

From the article (midway through): “Reports have been circulating in the industry that Google had offered to pay $100 million a year for the use of Viacom’s programming…”

If that is true, we’re talking about fairly normal business negotiation drama, not unlike “union vs. management” contract negotiations, say, between SAG and the movie studios.

Regarding the “Lesson from George Lucas”, I hope I don’t have to spell out Lucas’s secret to the Viacom execs: “Embrace your fans”.

]]> By: Michael http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863586 Michael Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:15:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863586 @ #14 Learn a Lesson from George Lucas. Your approach is right but I think your assumptions are wrong. In our site - about 1b pageviews generate between $40-50m */year*. Let's take half that - say $20m for a good start number for revenue. This is per year - so you have to calculate the total value of that revenue over a serious of years - say $200m for 10 years (and that excludes growth, better monetizatin techniques etc...). So would Viacom sue for at least $200m - maybe yes ;-) @ #14 Learn a Lesson from George Lucas.

Your approach is right but I think your assumptions are wrong. In our site - about 1b pageviews generate between $40-50m */year*. Let’s take half that - say $20m for a good start number for revenue. This is per year - so you have to calculate the total value of that revenue over a serious of years - say $200m for 10 years (and that excludes growth, better monetizatin techniques etc…).

So would Viacom sue for at least $200m - maybe yes ;-)

]]> By: Jay Adair http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863349 Jay Adair Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:28:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-863349 I received one of the notifications that a video of mine had been taken down. The thing is, it wasn't breaching any copyright. It was a video I made on my camera with no music. Nothing to breach! Fools. I doubt I'll hear back from my reply letting know their mistake. I wonder how many other people received these incorrect notices. I received one of the notifications that a video of mine had been taken down. The thing is, it wasn’t breaching any copyright. It was a video I made on my camera with no music. Nothing to breach! Fools. I doubt I’ll hear back from my reply letting know their mistake.

I wonder how many other people received these incorrect notices.

]]> By: Drama 2.0 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-862080 Drama 2.0 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:14:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-862080 By the way, it looks like Google's "do no evil" motto has taken another hit: http://news.com.com/2061-10812_3-6155987.html Maybe, just maybe, Google tried to negotiate with Viacom using the same tactics they used with North Carolina? If Google apparently shows disdain for a state and its taxpayers, would it really be surprising that they show some disdain towards a rights holder? Seems like Google wants the world and everything in it, even if it doesn't really belong to them. By the way, it looks like Google’s “do no evil” motto has taken another hit:

http://news.com.com/2061-10812_3-6155987.html

Maybe, just maybe, Google tried to negotiate with Viacom using the same tactics they used with North Carolina? If Google apparently shows disdain for a state and its taxpayers, would it really be surprising that they show some disdain towards a rights holder? Seems like Google wants the world and everything in it, even if it doesn’t really belong to them.

]]> By: Rum and Monkey: &raquo; Eine kleine copyright infringement http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-861989 Rum and Monkey: &raquo; Eine kleine copyright infringement Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:01:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/02/02/gootube-slammed-by-viacom-takedown-demand/#comment-861989 [...] Here’s just one of the videos Viacom doesn’t want you to watch without its advertising plastered all over it: [...] […] Here’s just one of the videos Viacom doesn’t want you to watch without its advertising plastered all over it: […]

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