Comments on: Amie Street Begins Data Mining and Artist Promotion http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:40:14 -0800 hourly 1 By: Amie Street Loves Hookers http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-2154672 Amie Street Loves Hookers Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:58:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-2154672 [...] Michael’s January 2007 review of Amie Street here. CrunchBase Information Amie Street Information provided by [...] [...] Michael’s January 2007 review of Amie Street here. CrunchBase Information Amie Street Information provided by [...]

]]> By: Finding DRM-Free Music Online http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1571013 Finding DRM-Free Music Online Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:44:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-1571013 [...] which we have covered many times, like eMusic and Audio Lunchbox provides DRM-free songs from artists without major label contracts [...] [...] which we have covered many times, like eMusic and Audio Lunchbox provides DRM-free songs from artists without major label contracts [...]

]]> By: Error500 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1162348 Error500 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:51:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-1162348 <strong>Amie Street, otro modelo de música en la web es posible...</strong> La he visto esta mañana en otro blog más y me ha encantado. Se trata de Amie Street una tienda de música online que ofrece las canciones en MP3 sin DRM (les falta ofrecerlas en OGG y Flac, pero para empezar no está mal)... Amie Street, otro modelo de música en la web es posible…

La he visto esta mañana en otro blog más y me ha encantado. Se trata de Amie Street una tienda de música online que ofrece las canciones en MP3 sin DRM (les falta ofrecerlas en OGG y Flac, pero para empezar no está mal)…

]]> By: The Walking City http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-849963 The Walking City Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:06:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-849963 I dont see why an artist would want to join Amie Street, with other established services in place, the design looks budget at best. I think its a step in the right direction, creative, but i see absolutely no incentive for an artist to upload their music. www.myspace.com/walkingcity I dont see why an artist would want to join Amie Street, with other established services in place, the design looks budget at best. I think its a step in the right direction, creative, but i see absolutely no incentive for an artist to upload their music.
http://www.mysp...com/walkingcity

]]> By: pnpodvin http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-818058 pnpodvin Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:15:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-818058 When does Amie Street do the same with manuscripts, videos, ... ? When does Amie Street do the same with manuscripts, videos, … ?

]]> By: Billy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-805297 Billy Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:33:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-805297 I like the Amie Street model but I immediately have two questions: what is the incentive for larger music groups to be a part of this exchange and why is it capped at $0.99? I believe in supply and demand and am all about letting markets decide what is best so how does Amie Street address the question of songs being worth more than $0.99? Overall great model though. I like the Amie Street model but I immediately have two questions: what is the incentive for larger music groups to be a part of this exchange and why is it capped at $0.99? I believe in supply and demand and am all about letting markets decide what is best so how does Amie Street address the question of songs being worth more than $0.99? Overall great model though.

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-801359 David Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:33:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-801359 Michael. You do realize that this is not really market pricing don't you? It is an algorithm, perhaps simpler than you might want to know, which simply raises the price as the number/rate of purchases increases. There is no real supply curve for a digital good like downloadable music. It is, of course, worthwhile to see music prices that are flexible rather than a one price fits all model. And the DRM free aspect is great. But lets be honest about the pricing model. This is modeled on a belief about the demand curve. Michael. You do realize that this is not really market pricing don’t you? It is an algorithm, perhaps simpler than you might want to know, which simply raises the price as the number/rate of purchases increases. There is no real supply curve for a digital good like downloadable music.

It is, of course, worthwhile to see music prices that are flexible rather than a one price fits all model. And the DRM free aspect is great. But lets be honest about the pricing model. This is modeled on a belief about the demand curve.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-801230 Andrew Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:10:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-801230 Dead in the water. Dead in the water.

]]> By: New York http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-798722 New York Sat, 27 Jan 2007 06:25:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-798722 Using "pure market driven prices" for a digital good is the least economically grounded concept of all time, ever. Using “pure market driven prices” for a digital good is the least economically grounded concept of all time, ever.

]]> By: ms.angel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-796558 ms.angel Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:11:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-796558 I think they are working on getting indie artists up there by actually working with artists, just like any other music distribution model would. As a result they've been able to get some really good tracks. I think they are working on getting indie artists up there by actually working with artists, just like any other music distribution model would. As a result they’ve been able to get some really good tracks.

]]> By: Dwizzle http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-795565 Dwizzle Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:46:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-795565 My mp3 player at this point has 166 songs on it. 137 songs are from Amie Street. I havent listened to the radio in since august. I havent been watching MTV. Ive been sitting here and listening to music uploade don Amie Street. One thing the free download allows me to do is listen to music i wouldnt otherwise listen give a listen. Not only has my music library expanded so has the horizon of what I listen to. I would never have listed to half of these artist if it wasnt for the music rec system unless they were artist I know and see arund Rhode Island. The Amie Street guys do this for the love of music. Ive seen their 19 hour days putting their all into it and falling asleep at the keyboard. Excpet for a few other artist that are already big, Amie Street is the only place that I buy music. Its just that dam cool. My mp3 player at this point has 166 songs on it. 137 songs are from Amie Street. I havent listened to the radio in since august. I havent been watching MTV. Ive been sitting here and listening to music uploade don Amie Street. One thing the free download allows me to do is listen to music i wouldnt otherwise listen give a listen. Not only has my music library expanded so has the horizon of what I listen to. I would never have listed to half of these artist if it wasnt for the music rec system unless they were artist I know and see arund Rhode Island. The Amie Street guys do this for the love of music. Ive seen their 19 hour days putting their all into it and falling asleep at the keyboard. Excpet for a few other artist that are already big, Amie Street is the only place that I buy music. Its just that dam cool.

]]> By: Fashion Industry Ceo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-795458 Fashion Industry Ceo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:25:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-795458 I love to see stuff like this...young and innovative. I love to see stuff like this…young and innovative.

]]> By: doug http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-795257 doug Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:55:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-795257 These guys are the real deal - a bunch of very smart and very focused dudes who know how to execute. This company is a winner! These guys are the real deal – a bunch of very smart and very focused dudes who know how to execute. This company is a winner!

]]> By: Joshua http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-795120 Joshua Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:34:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-795120 Hi Adam, I'm sorry about the problems you had uploading. From time to time there are problems in converting the bit rates and we always are quick to help our artists re-upload the tracks. If you would like to email feedback@amiestreet.com with your artist name and the tracks that uploaded incorrectly I'd be happy to take them down for you. I hope you consider uploading them again. Best, Josh Hi Adam,
I’m sorry about the problems you had uploading. From time to time there are problems in converting the bit rates and we always are quick to help our artists re-upload the tracks. If you would like to email feedback@amiestreet.com with your artist name and the tracks that uploaded incorrectly I’d be happy to take them down for you. I hope you consider uploading them again.
Best,
Josh

]]> By: ADAM http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-794526 ADAM Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:00:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-794526 I thought at first from all the hype that this would be an awesome way to promote my band's music. So I foolishly uploaded 8 tracks from an old CD. Now I realize what a mistake I made! You can't edit the tracks, once they're uploaded it's done. And somehow the conversion was screwed up because now the tracks are played at 10x the normal speed on the site...and I can't take them down because they're permanent! SNAFU I thought at first from all the hype that this would be an awesome way to promote my band’s music.

So I foolishly uploaded 8 tracks from an old CD. Now I realize what a mistake I made! You can’t edit the tracks, once they’re uploaded it’s done. And somehow the conversion was screwed up because now the tracks are played at 10x the normal speed on the site…and I can’t take them down because they’re permanent!

SNAFU

]]> By: Kathryn http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-794279 Kathryn Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:17:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-794279 Wow!instant music discovery service with direct kick back to the artists: Could be really viral. I'm there. Wow!instant music discovery service with direct kick back to the artists: Could be really viral. I’m there.

]]> By: lemon obrien http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793897 lemon obrien Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:16:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793897 They compete against my company, so, I'm not giving them high marks. They compete against my company, so, I’m not giving them high marks.

]]> By: Ted http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793523 Ted Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:21:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793523 A lot of people love the model, love the idea. I'm one of them. However music does not sell because of business models, it sells because of music. If this is ever to be successful, they need to hit the road, hit the clubs, and make some deals with indie labels or venues, or bands, in order to get some good music up there. A lot of people love the model, love the idea. I’m one of them. However music does not sell because of business models, it sells because of music.

If this is ever to be successful, they need to hit the road, hit the clubs, and make some deals with indie labels or venues, or bands, in order to get some good music up there.

]]> By: Amit Chowdhry http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793404 Amit Chowdhry Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:04:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793404 After I read this blog post, I created an account myself. The website seems to not be fully functional. For example: I went to Charts->Genres->Electronic->Latest And then at the bottom of the page, there is an indication that there are 6 pages of latest music, but when you click on Page 2 or any other page, it is just blank. Went to other Genres and the same problem is there. After I read this blog post, I created an account myself. The website seems to not be fully functional. For example:

I went to
Charts->Genres->Electronic->Latest

And then at the bottom of the page, there is an indication that there are 6 pages of latest music, but when you click on Page 2 or any other page, it is just blank. Went to other Genres and the same problem is there.

]]> By: Drama 2.0 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793204 Drama 2.0 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:34:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793204 A lot of people seem to love the Amie St. concept, but now that they've been around for a bit, let's stop talking about the model and ask: - How many songs have they sold? - Have they turned a profit? - What's the most money an artist has made with them? These are a lot more important than whether, in theory, their market-driven model and lack of DRM makes for a winner. By now there should be some sort of validation. A lot of people seem to love the Amie St. concept, but now that they’ve been around for a bit, let’s stop talking about the model and ask:

- How many songs have they sold?
- Have they turned a profit?
- What’s the most money an artist has made with them?

These are a lot more important than whether, in theory, their market-driven model and lack of DRM makes for a winner. By now there should be some sort of validation.

]]> By: garyL http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793063 garyL Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:10:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793063 Five reasons Amie St. is dead in the water: The site has a terrible name. They didn't buy the domain that goes with their terrible name/logo - amiest.com. You can't do squat until you sign up at the site, and there's nothing to entice you to sign up. The site's business model punishes people who create niche music & rewards people that make mainstream pap. It's a pyramid scheme built on the assumption that people won't redistribute the songs to file-sharing services. The future of music will be the record industry licensing their own DRM standard for selling mainstream pap, and free mp3s for indie music. Five reasons Amie St. is dead in the water:

The site has a terrible name.

They didn’t buy the domain that goes with their terrible name/logo – amiest.com.

You can’t do squat until you sign up at the site, and there’s nothing to entice you to sign up.

The site’s business model punishes people who create niche music & rewards people that make mainstream pap.

It’s a pyramid scheme built on the assumption that people won’t redistribute the songs to file-sharing services.

The future of music will be the record industry licensing their own DRM standard for selling mainstream pap, and free mp3s for indie music.

]]> By: thesubjective http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-793026 thesubjective Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:04:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-793026 From an artist perspective, if they can gain critical mass and own a few niche fan bases; idm, hyphy, noise etc. they'll be in good shape.....but given their target demo's concern with aesthetics....if they go the "anything goes" road of cdbaby the cool kids will stay away......and it's the cool kids you need early in a bands career before any label truly pays attention.......sad but true. If I were them I'd start reaching out to booking agents as they are always ahead of the curve. Offer a few of the pitchfork-esque agencies promotional incentives to sign up their rosters; kork, highroad, billions etc. If you take a look at the abundance of great free music available via IODA's promotrack's program, it's clear even established bands with a solid following don't mind free tracks circulating. SXSW party? From an artist perspective, if they can gain critical mass and own a few niche fan bases; idm, hyphy, noise etc. they’ll be in good shape…..but given their target demo’s concern with aesthetics….if they go the “anything goes” road of cdbaby the cool kids will stay away……and it’s the cool kids you need early in a bands career before any label truly pays attention…….sad but true.

If I were them I’d start reaching out to booking agents as they are always ahead of the curve. Offer a few of the pitchfork-esque agencies promotional incentives to sign up their rosters; kork, highroad, billions etc.

If you take a look at the abundance of great free music available via IODA’s promotrack’s program, it’s clear even established bands with a solid following don’t mind free tracks circulating.

SXSW party?

]]> By: john metzger http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-792755 john metzger Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:18:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-792755 FYI, Grooveshark.com has a 'legal napster' way of dealing with DRM... FYI, Grooveshark.com has a ‘legal napster’ way of dealing with DRM…

]]> By: Allen Stern http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-792683 Allen Stern Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:01:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-792683 I interviewed Joshua (click my name) back in Nov. He talks about gaming the system, funding, etc. We did the interview at a coffee shop in NYC so there is a little background noise but that makes it real :) He also discusses his biggest mistake with AS since it launched. The interview is about 20 minutes. Joshua strikes me as a guy who really has a good vision for the road to success for AS. BTW, all 3 are out of college as of last year. I interviewed Joshua (click my name) back in Nov. He talks about gaming the system, funding, etc. We did the interview at a coffee shop in NYC so there is a little background noise but that makes it real :) He also discusses his biggest mistake with AS since it launched. The interview is about 20 minutes.

Joshua strikes me as a guy who really has a good vision for the road to success for AS.

BTW, all 3 are out of college as of last year.

]]> By: Rusty http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-792636 Rusty Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:52:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/26/amie-street-begins-data-mining-and-artist-promotion/#comment-792636 Here's a great review of Amie Street if you want to know more: http://www.theplugg.com/2006/11/06/somewhere-on-amie-street/ It's a great website. Here’s a great review of Amie Street if you want to know more:
http://www.thep...on-amie-street/

It’s a great website.

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