This kind of stuff got many companies sued into oblivion.

It should be legal but isn’t. I hope that this company is willing to fight for their right to exist.

Yes it did, although the facts were different. MP3.com wasn’t actually uploading songs, just trying to confirm you owned the CD and then giving you access to a server copy. If I remember correctly.

I am a living example of Digital divide I have yet to power myself with an I-Pod, and a home server as soon as possible,
Thanks for keeping updated.

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This looks like a good reason to start looking at a new Windows Mobile device after the bad press Apples iPhone has received.

Michael, as the iPhone is also an iPod, what would be the purpose of such an app on your iPhone? Your iTunes library would already be on your iPhone…

Apple surely won’t like this

The RIAA won’t like this. Apple won’t like this. Microsoft won’t like this.

But it’s a great product to monetize, as long as you have access to one hell of a law firm.

The site runs very slowly, i have 2500 songs, and the site was useless, crashed at least twice, and failed to load any songs. I dont no if there servers are under heavy load or if the site works better in IE, but in Firefox, its currently useless. I cant comment on smartphones as i dont have one, but i think they should upgrade to a flash-based music player.

Hmm, big deal. I’ve installed the shoutcast server, stream with Audion or Winamp and the Nokia Internet Radio app plays it on any S60 phone through wifi or 3G.

I’m looking forward for when The Filter launch their mobile app - supposed to be in the next few weeks.

Yeah, I’m trying to figure out the advantage to this over shoutcast or orb and am finding none.

I meant over slimserver, not shoutcast. http://www.slimdevices.com

It doesn’t interface with last.fm. Useless.

BTW, this is the correct link to access the playlist in the article:

https://share.avvenu.com/service/216574/datashare/?k=A350e2cd272297dd4a3159b6a5648bbf2&n=10&md=9fc2c0152638da10128fe020fb958467

I received an invite to listen to Bill Tai’s stream and I noticed that the flash player (at least on OS X) didn’t show the artist - just the song name. Also, I would think that being able to search for either artist or song title would be useful on the client.

I’m on cable at home and the stream quality was fine.

I wonder will this work with Palm Treo phones. If Apple and others don’t like it, then they should have a provision like this with their own software. It is just absurd that they can initimidate everyone.

This is what we need and a lot of people and companies are fighting for (more open access to iTunes and apple products)
Apple has always kept iTunes hard to access with 3rd party apps and more and more these days things are changing to better access for all (roll on the iPhone).

Yes…can’t deny it! 3 Billion Cell Phones and 90% of population with access by 2010, definitely the way to go………

From reading over the regulations set out by various music licensing agencies, it is legal to upload your own music to any medium you would like as long as others do not have access to it. If that medium acts as storage for you (and only you), then you’re safe. Don’t worry about uploading your collection to Amazon S3 (for example) - there’s nothing illegal about that unless you’re allowing others to listen to it.

MP3.com had it all wrong - they were duplicating music (ripping millions of CD’s) onto a server and letting people listen to it (regardless of the fact that those people had to own the CD to gain access). When you purchase a CD, you are free to duplicate it as many times as you want *for personal use*. MP3.com didn’t qualify as personal use. Stupid, but true.

It would be a lot easier to just take your ipod with you.

Umm…doesnt Orb.com do all this and more (except for the server-side storage, but how useful is that) ?

Just trying to figure out why I should install this bloatware instead.

Mik;

True… for those that have an iPod. For the other 1 billion people that have a cellular phone instead, I’d venture to say this is a better idea

Screw it, bring on the iPhone!

I use Orb (Mycast now…). I don’t understand why people would use Avvenu’s product rather than Orb seeing how limited it is? I gave it a try, but really… it’s limited to your itunes library… it’s only music, and you can only share 250 songs that are stored on the server? Doesn’t make much sense to me… but maybe there’s something I didn’t see. If anybody knows, let me know. I didn’t like the previous version of Orb, you couldn’t customize anything and the navigation was a pain (no ajax, reloading page all the time). Sharing was crap too. V2 version’s much, much better. I stream all my music (no need for itunes), videos, photos and tv. And I can share all that stuff with no limitation (cannot share tv actually afaik). And works on more than just win mobile smarphones. Recently they released a new feature with different types of sharing (public/blogs/private). I started to use the public sharing (which isa personal page on public.orb.com that anybody can access)and this is what I use most now. However you get private sharing if you want to. Didn’t try the blog stuff, don’t have use for it so I don’t know. There are some glitches sometimes and the UI is not perfect, but I see that they update the web site with fixes and new stuff quite often, so it’s getting better. Anyway I’d be glad to hear the experience / feedbackof those who’ve used both and can compare the feature set.

I concur with prior users…ORB.com is the way to go. However, this interface looks nice and I am willing to give it a try.

PJ

When I first read the article headline in my RSS reader, I thought the article might be about storing your library externally. An author at Pain in the Tech just wrote about using Amazon S3 to store his iTunes library and a Mac client that facilitates upload. Check it out if interested. Does this mobile phone service work with storage provided by an S3 server instance?

for all people like to complain about apple being closed, iTunes sharing is HTTP-based , fairly open, and supported by a lot of non-iTunes players, especially open-source ones. theres even a free clone of apples iTunes-song-server which works well..

with the mentions of storing files on Avanue’s servers, and the lack of support for DRM files nd only working on windows, leads me to believe theyre bypassing DAAP - theres no reason DAAP can’t work over the wider internet, the only real issue is share-discovery normally only works on the local subnets - easily fixed by advertising to a HTTP directory somewhere, and possibly involving some NAt-punching HTTP proxy if needed..

in other words, i expect simpler solutions to pop up - giving people full acces to their library from their cellphone/walkman. i mean its alreayd possible today if you can setup my-daapd and rhythmbox, but i mean for normal people..

There is a site that has been doing this for a while its called MP3Tunes. I think its owned by the guy who started Linspire. I got a year of their service half off and i think it was worth it. THey let you back up unlimited files and stream them. I would assume that there would be legal trouble hasnt seemed to happen.

That’s pretty cool. It sounds like it has nothing to to with iTune. It runs on Windows & Windows Mobile, does not play iTune DRMed songs. The title should just say “Make Your Music Library Mobile”.

I run Orb. It does everything but the file storage but I dont need that. The streaming live tv to my Q is amazing.

I agree with many of the above comments. Avvenu is great for some cell phone users. Orb is great for cell phone users who wish to unlock their music, photos and videos. Another alternative is ViiBlast.com which stores all a user’s media files in a personal media center on a web-accessible server. Check it out.

Very cool - all of the devices in 5 years will have this capability natively and Avvenu may have no market. Hope the RIAA guys don’t go after this too…

Permissible use may not include broadcasting your collection to the masses… I’m pretty sure that royalties would need to be involved (e.g. you are a radio station ??).

Avvenu is simply extending browser-based access to remotely stored media using what we all know will be the preferred, portable device.

Now how will they monetize it?

I finally tried it, after this post and it works great. I mean we can stream my itunes collection on my (home) computer to my work laptop. Already sent five sets of music sharing to my friends. I like this service.

Fabrik is doing this too, http://www.myfabrik.com. It’s Internet-based, so not only can you store, organize (tag) and share your stuff, you can listen to your music from anywhere, and from almost any device. Check out the interface too. It’s sweet.

Orb does this and more, WITHOUT third party servers and a 250 song restriction.

What’s amazing is the sharing. I just sent a share of a playlist I created from Cd’s I go at christmas, to 3 friends across the country. Works like a charm.

Barty:
There is an explanation why you may have had a problem sharing your music. Once you click on “share”, your shared playlist is copied to Avvenu’s secure media servers. It is from the Avvenu media server that we stream the playlist to your friend. This ensures they can listen to the music even when your computer is off-line. The time it takes to upload the shared playlist to Avvenu’s media servers depend on the number of tracks and your upstream bandwidth. Your iTunes PC must be also online and connected to Avvenu until all the playlist has been uploaded. We plan to put a progress bar in the next update of this beta version.

Also the Avvenu Music Player does not support DRM protected music – DRM protected music will not load.

The one thing that apple and any other portable mp3 company won’t like us that the more pprole that turn to over the web music, the less their products will be bought. And they’ll start going after sites like this. Yes this site found a loop hole that makes it technicly legal, I’m almost positive that they’ll make it look eligal when they go to sue these site.

But in my opinion this is a cool site. I’m just stating facts.

Eerr, mycast.orb? is much better.