Comments on: iPhone: It’s Also a Hard to Use Cell Phone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:52:41 -0800 hourly 1 By: easy to use cell phone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-2441635 easy to use cell phone Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:02:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-2441635 [...] iPhone: It’s Also a Hard to Use Cell Phone Back in Dec/2006, there was a widely reported rumor that Orange (a cell phone co in Europe) and Google were talking about a Googlephone , and then right after i Phone news broke, there was another rumor… [...] [...] iPhone: It’s Also a Hard to Use Cell Phone Back in Dec/2006, there was a widely reported rumor that Orange (a cell phone co in Europe) and Google were talking about a Googlephone , and then right after i Phone news broke, there was another rumor… [...]

]]> By: iPhone parody | Intentionally - The Education of Sean Johnson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-948537 iPhone parody | Intentionally - The Education of Sean Johnson Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:07:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-948537 [...] I’d use it. (via) [...] [...] I’d use it. (via) [...]

]]> By: Hot Picks - January 20, 2007 » Freakitude http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-870757 Hot Picks - January 20, 2007 » Freakitude Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:51:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-870757 [...] iPhone: It’s Also a Hard to Use Cell Phone - Microsoft’s Steve Ballmer scoffing at the iPhone in a way that makes it seem like he’s actually a bit nervous about it. [...] [...] iPhone: It’s Also a Hard to Use Cell Phone – Microsoft’s Steve Ballmer scoffing at the iPhone in a way that makes it seem like he’s actually a bit nervous about it. [...]

]]> By: Naftali http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-847099 Naftali Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:51:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-847099 I find it funny that Steve Ballmer would criticize anything. Microsoft has not come up with anything innovative, EVER. 5 years for a new OS, and Vista is what they came up with? What a joke. Zune? Who the hell wants one of those? (BTW, I am not a Mac User, though I just got an iPod) People line up to buy iPods, new releases of Mac OS, and there will be huge lineups for the iPhone. Who lines up for Vista or Zune? I am a Palm user since 1999. I just purchased a Treo 750v which I use for both business and personal. I would have loved to stay with the Palm OS, but they have been asleep at the wheel, so I'm on Windows Mobile now. I spent $900/CDN for this unlocked phone, yet I will most certainly take a look at the iPhone. To summarize, I appreciate that Microsoft has built and dominated markets, but they dont build revolutionary products or designs, depsite the billions they have. Ballmer would be better spending his energy building wow products than sniping at a company that has shown it can do just that. I find it funny that Steve Ballmer would criticize anything. Microsoft has not come up with anything innovative, EVER. 5 years for a new OS, and Vista is what they came up with? What a joke. Zune? Who the hell wants one of those? (BTW, I am not a Mac User, though I just got an iPod)

People line up to buy iPods, new releases of Mac OS, and there will be huge lineups for the iPhone. Who lines up for Vista or Zune?

I am a Palm user since 1999. I just purchased a Treo 750v which I use for both business and personal. I would have loved to stay with the Palm OS, but they have been asleep at the wheel, so I’m on Windows Mobile now. I spent $900/CDN for this unlocked phone, yet I will most certainly take a look at the iPhone.

To summarize, I appreciate that Microsoft has built and dominated markets, but they dont build revolutionary products or designs, depsite the billions they have. Ballmer would be better spending his energy building wow products than sniping at a company that has shown it can do just that.

]]> By: David Jones http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-789939 David Jones Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:57:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-789939 I keep thinking about how expensive the iPhone is going to be. Yea I think it will be a very apealing phone. But im wondering if that $500 price tage and a potential Cell phone service change will put it out of reach to the bulk of the potential audience....minus the first adopters. Especially when you look at the bulk of their potential customers probably will be highschool or jr highschool age kids whos parents arent going to want to spend that much for a phone. I keep thinking about how expensive the iPhone is going to be. Yea I think it will be a very apealing phone. But im wondering if that $500 price tage and a potential Cell phone service change will put it out of reach to the bulk of the potential audience….minus the first adopters. Especially when you look at the bulk of their potential customers probably will be highschool or jr highschool age kids whos parents arent going to want to spend that much for a phone.

]]> By: Avatar http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-768195 Avatar Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:59:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-768195 yes they still sell zunes, it is expected to reach their first million this june.. they shooting low so they can announce that it did better than predictions, i am shooting for 1.2 millions. they will also announce the new stuff to follow when the first million gets sold. yes they still sell zunes, it is expected to reach their first million this june.. they shooting low so they can announce that it did better than predictions, i am shooting for 1.2 millions.

they will also announce the new stuff to follow when the first million gets sold.

]]> By: TheKeeperOfThe7Keys http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-767182 TheKeeperOfThe7Keys Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:29:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-767182 Do they still sell Zunes? Did they sell any? Do they still sell Zunes? Did they sell any?

]]> By: Larry http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-760161 Larry Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:52:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-760161 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLRjKCGHek zune phone parody... very funny! http://www.yout...h?v=WRLRjKCGHek

zune phone parody… very funny!

]]> By: matthew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-759595 matthew Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:02:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-759595 "iPhone will not sell 10 mil in first year." They said the iPod would never sell. "you have to do everything on iPhone with TWO hands," You might not pick up the iPhone and use it one-handed the first day, but people get very good at adapting to new devices. Take texting. Watch someone good at text and it's seemingly impossible that anyone could text that fast. “iPhone will not sell 10 mil in first year.” They said the iPod would never sell.

“you have to do everything on iPhone with TWO hands,”

You might not pick up the iPhone and use it one-handed the first day, but people get very good at adapting to new devices. Take texting. Watch someone good at text and it’s seemingly impossible that anyone could text that fast.

]]> By: grant http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-759188 grant Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:28:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-759188 To conclude all the discussions, here is my prediction, loud and clear: 1. iPhone will NOT be a device like iPod, will never catch iPod's success. 2. iPhone is very pretty, not a 2nd "Newton" for sure. But you have to do everything on iPhone with TWO hands, that is the curse to this golden flower. Conclusion: there will be an one-hand operating iPhone in two years. And this first iPhone will not sell 10 mil in first year. To conclude all the discussions, here is my prediction, loud and clear:
1. iPhone will NOT be a device like iPod, will never catch iPod’s success.
2. iPhone is very pretty, not a 2nd “Newton” for sure. But you have to do everything on iPhone with TWO hands, that is the curse to this golden flower.

Conclusion: there will be an one-hand operating iPhone in two years. And this first iPhone will not sell 10 mil in first year.

]]> By: Hashim http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-759080 Hashim Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:01:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-759080 People need to hold off in judging the iPhone's capability as an email machine until they use the touch screen for an extended time. I remember the firts time using an iPod after seeing everyone else have it for years, and wondering what the big deal was. I was blown away by the scroll wheel with no moving parts. The same may happen with this iPhone touch screen. People need to hold off in judging the iPhone’s capability as an email machine until they use the touch screen for an extended time.

I remember the firts time using an iPod after seeing everyone else have it for years, and wondering what the big deal was. I was blown away by the scroll wheel with no moving parts.

The same may happen with this iPhone touch screen.

]]> By: other http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-758783 other Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:05:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-758783 It’s very clear that at some point your background not being in technology is hurting you. Your motorola q is too difficult to use? You must realize that for most of your readers configuring a phone to work properly is a joke, and everyone knows that if you have multiple awkward crashes, you go get a replacement, you don’t just keep it and continue to bitch endlessly about it. You seem like the “business guy” at engineering meetings who makes everything go twice as long because you have to explain how stuff works. And then he goes out and butchers the explanation to everyone else. Except your everyone else is the massive bunch of Techcrunch readers. Please learn about technology, and please be more considerate when you potentially have the future of people’s hard work and their products in your hands. It’s very clear that at some point your background not being in technology is hurting you. Your motorola q is too difficult to use? You must realize that for most of your readers configuring a phone to work properly is a joke, and everyone knows that if you have multiple awkward crashes, you go get a replacement, you don’t just keep it and continue to bitch endlessly about it. You seem like the “business guy” at engineering meetings who makes everything go twice as long because you have to explain how stuff works. And then he goes out and butchers the explanation to everyone else. Except your everyone else is the massive bunch of Techcrunch readers. Please learn about technology, and please be more considerate when you potentially have the future of people’s hard work and their products in your hands.

]]> By: Survival Shows http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-758307 Survival Shows Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:40:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-758307 The second video is awesome!! The second video is awesome!!

]]> By: Matthew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-758190 Matthew Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:11:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-758190 I love all the "iPhone, it's doomed" critics. Even with all of the valid shortcomings (carrier-locked, to-this-point non-replacable battery, relative high cost, etc), Apple will sell through the iPhone without any problems. This is a Gen-1 device. Just like the original iPod, there are aspects that suck, but if there's one company that figures out what it does wrong and what 80% of us want, it's Apple. The only thing I can see that would help sales at this point is if it weren't a carrier locked handset. There are a ton of us in the 19 States not covered by Cingular who would buy but can't. The rest of the stuff people don't like can be fixed in future revisions, or by third-parties, who will make stuff like a clip on battery to get you through until you get to your desk, car, or airline seat where you can recharge if need be. Regarding cost, sure, the people that hunt high and low for free-after-rebate phones will gripe, but those aren't the people Apple is targeting. They're going after people like me who have been buying unlocked phones for years, all of which cost very close-often more-than Apple's existing price points. I love all the “iPhone, it’s doomed” critics.

Even with all of the valid shortcomings (carrier-locked, to-this-point non-replacable battery, relative high cost, etc), Apple will sell through the iPhone without any problems.

This is a Gen-1 device. Just like the original iPod, there are aspects that suck, but if there’s one company that figures out what it does wrong and what 80% of us want, it’s Apple.

The only thing I can see that would help sales at this point is if it weren’t a carrier locked handset. There are a ton of us in the 19 States not covered by Cingular who would buy but can’t.

The rest of the stuff people don’t like can be fixed in future revisions, or by third-parties, who will make stuff like a clip on battery to get you through until you get to your desk, car, or airline seat where you can recharge if need be.

Regarding cost, sure, the people that hunt high and low for free-after-rebate phones will gripe, but those aren’t the people Apple is targeting. They’re going after people like me who have been buying unlocked phones for years, all of which cost very close-often more-than Apple’s existing price points.

]]> By: GJJ4 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-757629 GJJ4 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:06:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-757629 I think this Iphone will be hugely popular, but not in the marketplace of business users. Every mom and dad who can't say no to their kids will buy them one. I just think that's the perfect market for this product. After all - how may 5g ipods have been sold to the under 18 market? How many of those users had their ipod bought for them by their parents? How many 6th graders do you see with a cell phone? (Even though at that age, they are rarely in a place where there is no phone access - they're at their house, someone else's house.) It seems to me that is the big market - the whining kids who parent's don't have the guts to say no to anything. That is going to be huge. And if apple and cingular want to make more money, they will subsidize by selling adverts to that market, much like free411. I think this Iphone will be hugely popular, but not in the marketplace of business users. Every mom and dad who can’t say no to their kids will buy them one. I just think that’s the perfect market for this product. After all – how may 5g ipods have been sold to the under 18 market? How many of those users had their ipod bought for them by their parents? How many 6th graders do you see with a cell phone? (Even though at that age, they are rarely in a place where there is no phone access – they’re at their house, someone else’s house.) It seems to me that is the big market – the whining kids who parent’s don’t have the guts to say no to anything. That is going to be huge. And if apple and cingular want to make more money, they will subsidize by selling adverts to that market, much like free411.

]]> By: Al Delgado http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-757594 Al Delgado Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:59:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-757594 Ballmer looks very nervious and his tone of voice gives it away. One can thank Apple, whether you love or hate them, for attending to a what I think is my least favorite tool, the cell phone. Hey, if they can bring better usability features from the other cell makers that would be great for all! Even better would be if they could help bring down data service prices!! Then we should be cheering Apple for getting into the cell phone arena!!! Will the trolls please exit! Ballmer looks very nervious and his tone of voice gives it away. One can thank Apple, whether you love or hate them, for attending to a what I think is my least favorite tool, the cell phone. Hey, if they can bring better usability features from the other cell makers that would be great for all! Even better would be if they could help bring down data service prices!! Then we should be cheering Apple for getting into the cell phone arena!!! Will the trolls please exit!

]]> By: Oliver http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-756606 Oliver Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:36:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-756606 never mind that the iPhone features a sealed body construction like the iPod thus preventing the user from replacing a dead battery with a charged one ad-hoc. This negates the functionality of the iPhone for any heavy user (especially when on WiFi), essentially making it "an expensive brick" a large percentage of the time. By the way, there is software that supports the seamless switching between GPRS/Edge and WiFi, it's called "Smartroaming" and is made by Birdstep. Oliver http://mobilecrunch.com never mind that the iPhone features a sealed body construction like the iPod thus preventing the user from replacing a dead battery with a charged one ad-hoc.

This negates the functionality of the iPhone for any heavy user (especially when on WiFi), essentially making it “an expensive brick” a large percentage of the time.

By the way, there is software that supports the seamless switching between GPRS/Edge and WiFi, it’s called “Smartroaming” and is made by Birdstep.

Oliver
http://mobilecrunch.com

]]> By: ahajduk http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-755885 ahajduk Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:02:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-755885 I believe that the latter video is from The Late Night Show with Conan O'Brien. I believe that the latter video is from The Late Night Show with Conan O’Brien.

]]> By: Travis http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-755480 Travis Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:03:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-755480 Fuck you. You found it after it was prominently featured on YouTube & Digg. Oh great seer of TechChrunch, unlay the future of mankind at the humble threshold of our minds. You pretentiuis prick. Fuck you. You found it after it was prominently featured on YouTube & Digg. Oh great seer of TechChrunch, unlay the future of mankind at the humble threshold of our minds. You pretentiuis prick.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-755305 Nathan Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:40:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-755305 On a related - equally technical but non-audiovisual note - I thought some of you readers might possibly be interested in this: "iPhone interface analysis from an actual usability expert [Bruce Tognazzini of the Nielsen Norman Group]. Gasp!" http://www.asktog.com/columns/070iPhoneFirstLook.html (via) http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/19/6688 (via) http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_interface_analysis_from_an_actual_usability_expert_gasp (possibly via?) http://digg.originalsignal.com/ Er- post hoc, ergo propter hoc: "The article is long, but extremely insightful, so I highly recommend you actually read it after reading this post." On a related – equally technical but non-audiovisual note – I thought some of you readers might possibly be interested in this:

“iPhone interface analysis from an actual usability expert [Bruce Tognazzini of the Nielsen Norman Group]. Gasp!”

http://www.askt...eFirstLook.html
(via)
http://arstechn.../2007/1/19/6688
(via)
http://digg.com...ity_expert_gasp
(possibly via?)
http://digg.ori...inalsignal.com/

Er- post hoc, ergo propter hoc:
“The article is long, but extremely insightful, so I highly recommend you actually read it after reading this post.”

]]> By: Toolhater http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-754093 Toolhater Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:10:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-754093 "What we need is decent (not even great) voice recognition software so that we can speak quick replies to emails and have it convert to text. It needs to be no better at typos than the small keyboards on phones today, and it will be a lot faster." Whaaaaaaaat? Speech recognition fucking sucks, and that's why it's not successful. It must be great, not decent. With all the accents in America from numerous people, speech recognition needs to be GREAT, not decent. It's like you're not even paying attention anymore. “What we need is decent (not even great) voice recognition software so that we can speak quick replies to emails and have it convert to text. It needs to be no better at typos than the small keyboards on phones today, and it will be a lot faster.”

Whaaaaaaaat? Speech recognition fucking sucks, and that’s why it’s not successful. It must be great, not decent. With all the accents in America from numerous people, speech recognition needs to be GREAT, not decent.

It’s like you’re not even paying attention anymore.

]]> By: Jayjee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-754067 Jayjee Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:06:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-754067 Arrington is a toolbox. His staff writers suck and I'm just about to remove him from my netvibes. You know, Netvibes. It's a startup. TechCrunch used to review them; instead now they gossip and put on this pretentious show that they're inherently privy to insider information. Never failing to mention, of course, that half of their content is "off the record." Gay ass shit. Arrington is a toolbox. His staff writers suck and I’m just about to remove him from my netvibes. You know, Netvibes. It’s a startup. TechCrunch used to review them; instead now they gossip and put on this pretentious show that they’re inherently privy to insider information. Never failing to mention, of course, that half of their content is “off the record.”

Gay ass shit.

]]> By: Fidel Guajardo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-753834 Fidel Guajardo Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:30:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-753834 Apple has opened up a whole new world of possibilities for some very cool killer apps. I want to share my vision of these because I want someone to develop them so I can use them myself. Read about my Killer iPhone Apps at: http://fidelguajardo.blogspot.com/2007/01/iphone-killer-apps.html Apple has opened up a whole new world of possibilities for some very cool killer apps. I want to share my vision of these because I want someone to develop them so I can use them myself. Read about my Killer iPhone Apps at:
http://fidelgua...iller-apps.html

]]> By: A real software man http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-753810 A real software man Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:27:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-753810 ?! Did MS try to dominate the mobile phone market? I think this is not the case. I think they tried to dominate the high end of the smartphone market, and they succeeded brilliantly. ?! Did MS try to dominate the mobile phone market? I think this is not the case.

I think they tried to dominate the high end of the smartphone market, and they succeeded brilliantly.

]]> By: Pramit http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/comment-page-2/#comment-753528 Pramit Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:58:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/19/iphone-its-also-a-hard-to-use-cell-phone/#comment-753528 I think both Apple and Microsoft coming from PC background will have trouble dominating the mobile market. Microsoft has failed to do so so far and now it is Apple's turn. I think both Apple and Microsoft coming from PC background will have trouble dominating the mobile market. Microsoft has failed to do so so far and now it is Apple’s turn.

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