Comments on: TagWorld Rumors: Viacom Investment and Partnership http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:36:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Hammerspace » Blog Archive » Viacom And Social Project Launch Broad Decentralized Social Network Called Flux http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-1618322 Hammerspace » Blog Archive » Viacom And Social Project Launch Broad Decentralized Social Network Called Flux Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:52:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-1618322 [...] turns out the rumors of a Viacom investment and partnership with social network Tagworld were accurate. Viacom invested a reported $40 million in the company [...] [...] turns out the rumors of a Viacom investment and partnership with social network Tagworld were accurate. Viacom invested a reported $40 million in the company [...]

]]> By: Viacom Launches Broad Desentralized Social Networking Strategy Called Flux http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-1617177 Viacom Launches Broad Desentralized Social Networking Strategy Called Flux Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:06:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-1617177 [...] turns out the rumors of a Viacom investment and partnership with social network Tagworld, which we first covered in late 2005, were accurate. Viacom invested a [...] [...] turns out the rumors of a Viacom investment and partnership with social network Tagworld, which we first covered in late 2005, were accurate. Viacom invested a [...]

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]]> By: Mal http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-821113 Mal Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:57:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-821113 Facebook! Are you serious? What a crap site! Try socialise.biz easy to use and doesnt take all your bandwidth to load. Plus it's monitored well and the owners actually 'manage' it unlike so many other sites. Facebook! Are you serious? What a crap site! Try socialise.biz easy to use and doesnt take all your bandwidth to load. Plus it’s monitored well and the owners actually ‘manage’ it unlike so many other sites.

]]> By: proxieslist.net http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-796578 proxieslist.net Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:14:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-796578 [...] Tagworld-MTV - PaidContent claims the exclusive news that the social network Tagworld is about to get funded by Viacom. The money is expected to come from the MTVN Games and Interactive Media group. I also saw the news here. Investing in Tagworld is an alternative to building an MTV social network. [...] [...] Tagworld-MTV - PaidContent claims the exclusive news that the social network Tagworld is about to get funded by Viacom. The money is expected to come from the MTVN Games and Interactive Media group. I also saw the news here. Investing in Tagworld is an alternative to building an MTV social network. [...]

]]> By: Paul Irish http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-767997 Paul Irish Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:17:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-767997 Dear Viacom, Dumbest idea ever. Buy Facebook instead. Yours, Paul. Dear Viacom,
Dumbest idea ever. Buy Facebook instead.
Yours, Paul.

]]> By: BillyWarhol http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-737939 BillyWarhol Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:28:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-737939 Yeah i think if U join any of these big social networks like MySpace or Flickr or Facebook yer basically gonna continue to hang with yer friendz* U might like the other coffee shop better but if all yer friendz are going to Starbucks thass prolly where u'll grab yer next caffeine buzz! ;)) MySpace certainly has the Music crowd & the kidz but it's certainly no 2.0W Hotel - clunky & annoying navigation - if anything i give credit to the inhabitants there who've spruced up the neighbourhood & made their pages look & sound pretty cool* Yeah i think if U join any of these big social networks like MySpace or Flickr or Facebook yer basically gonna continue to hang with yer friendz* U might like the other coffee shop better but if all yer friendz are going to Starbucks thass prolly where u’ll grab yer next caffeine buzz! ;))

MySpace certainly has the Music crowd & the kidz but it’s certainly no 2.0W Hotel - clunky & annoying navigation - if anything i give credit to the inhabitants there who’ve spruced up the neighbourhood & made their pages look & sound pretty cool*

]]> By: warren http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-737888 warren Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:58:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-737888 i'd be curious to hear if there's ever a final press release with the details of the deal. sounds to me tagworld squeaked out a hail mary deal, and given that its within a year of their round, its most likely a hail mary deal for the vcs. the management are a group of operators, slapping assets together and pushing marketable metrics with the hope of convincing uneducated buyers they're selling something else, looking for a quick trade. no law against that, but you definitely can't call them businessmen, in either 1999 or 2007. i’d be curious to hear if there’s ever a final press release with the details of the deal. sounds to me tagworld squeaked out a hail mary deal, and given that its within a year of their round, its most likely a hail mary deal for the vcs.

the management are a group of operators, slapping assets together and pushing marketable metrics with the hope of convincing uneducated buyers they’re selling something else, looking for a quick trade. no law against that, but you definitely can’t call them businessmen, in either 1999 or 2007.

]]> By: chrys http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-736276 chrys Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:54:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-736276 I briefly worked at Skilljam.com when they had some ex iwin employees who had worked with these guys in the past. They said the same thing, that they were startup pillagers and snake oil salesmen. I briefly worked at Skilljam.com when they had some ex iwin employees who had worked with these guys in the past. They said the same thing, that they were startup pillagers and snake oil salesmen.

]]> By: Nick Mazza http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-736274 Nick Mazza Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:53:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-736274 Adam - MTV is about anything BUT music these days. They devote about one hour each to showing 'clips' of top videos with the majority of that segment going to interviewing guest celebrities and giving away shit to the audience. The rest of the network is all about garbage shows like Laguna Beach and Yo Mamma. If anything, MTV is looking for a cool factor to add to their network, not music. -Nick http://adgridwork.com Adam -

MTV is about anything BUT music these days. They devote about one hour each to showing ‘clips’ of top videos with the majority of that segment going to interviewing guest celebrities and giving away shit to the audience. The rest of the network is all about garbage shows like Laguna Beach and Yo Mamma. If anything, MTV is looking for a cool factor to add to their network, not music.

-Nick
http://adgridwork.com

]]> By: Adam Sweet http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-735913 Adam Sweet Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:19:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-735913 Chris we had the same idea! So Tagworld is going over to MTV. Hmmm...I always wondered how MySpace and other social sites that have huge music proponents affect MTV's traffic? Anybody know? Adam Chris we had the same idea!

So Tagworld is going over to MTV. Hmmm…I always wondered how MySpace and other social sites that have huge music proponents affect MTV’s traffic? Anybody know?

Adam

]]> By: chrisco http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733810 chrisco Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:41:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733810 Interesting story. As part of our product development we have accounts tagworld.com and all the others. I like some of their ideas, although think their brand name is not so good. Maybe Viacom can take the technology a launch a re-branded website, then promote it and grow it big. Good luck! -Chris Comella, Founder BuzzPal - The World Is Your Party http://www.buzzpal.com Interesting story. As part of our product development we have accounts tagworld.com and all the others. I like some of their ideas, although think their brand name is not so good. Maybe Viacom can take the technology a launch a re-branded website, then promote it and grow it big. Good luck!
-Chris Comella, Founder
BuzzPal - The World Is Your Party
http://www.buzzpal.com

]]> By: Gordon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733473 Gordon Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:17:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733473 http://www.demo.com/demonstrators/demo2006/63036.php very innovative imo. http://www.demo.com/demonstrat...../63036.php

very innovative imo.

]]> By: Kaiser http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733452 Kaiser Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:04:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733452 The guys at Tagworld focused a bit more on the music side of things when they launched to go up against MySpace. From there, I am not sure how they evolved or what the next direction was. In regards to these guys being "slimy", I worked directly with iwin, tmp, uproar, etc. If these guys were slimy, it was because it was 2001-2002 and everything/everyone was slimy and that is how businesses stay in business. Know your history....or, act like you have been there before! Can't argue with guys that know how to generate revenue starting up a company in a HIGH growth area. after a few years, maybe their product hasn't taken hold like they expected. Since we are comparing and contrasting right now, compare the actions of iwin/tmp with that of eUniverse/knowledge base. Today, these groups are known as Tagworld and MySpace. If you want to out a further list of names, we can do that too.... Good luck to the Tagworld guys. Maybe this is a move they needed. Or, maybe its the last gasp of air.....Time will tell. The guys at Tagworld focused a bit more on the music side of things when they launched to go up against MySpace. From there, I am not sure how they evolved or what the next direction was.

In regards to these guys being “slimy”, I worked directly with iwin, tmp, uproar, etc. If these guys were slimy, it was because it was 2001-2002 and everything/everyone was slimy and that is how businesses stay in business. Know your history….or, act like you have been there before! Can’t argue with guys that know how to generate revenue starting up a company in a HIGH growth area. after a few years, maybe their product hasn’t taken hold like they expected. Since we are comparing and contrasting right now, compare the actions of iwin/tmp with that of eUniverse/knowledge base.

Today, these groups are known as Tagworld and MySpace. If you want to out a further list of names, we can do that too….

Good luck to the Tagworld guys. Maybe this is a move they needed. Or, maybe its the last gasp of air…..Time will tell.

]]> By: Bob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733439 Bob Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:58:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733439 My impression is that they were buying most of their traffic; not much is organic. Why would Viacom want to partner with TagWorld when they could just buy traffic on their own? My impression is that they were buying most of their traffic; not much is organic. Why would Viacom want to partner with TagWorld when they could just buy traffic on their own?

]]> By: Orton Sacks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733413 Orton Sacks Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:46:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733413 ok, so what does "took too much $$ for themselves" mean? ok, so what does “took too much $$ for themselves” mean?

]]> By: sakki http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733409 sakki Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:42:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733409 orton, i never worked for iwin or tmp, i was part of the team from uproar.com that acquired iwin and tmp. orton, i never worked for iwin or tmp, i was part of the team from uproar.com that acquired iwin and tmp.

]]> By: Josh http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733235 Josh Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:31:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-733235 Can someone explain why Tagworld is innovative? Can someone explain why Tagworld is innovative?

]]> By: Orton Sacks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732713 Orton Sacks Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:21:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732713 something tells me sakki was a low-level iwin employee who was a little upset when his 500 options didn't make him a multimillionaire. what exactly does "took too much $$ for themselves" mean? something tells me sakki was a low-level iwin employee who was a little upset when his 500 options didn’t make him a multimillionaire. what exactly does “took too much $$ for themselves” mean?

]]> By: Morgan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732390 Morgan Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:46:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732390 I've heard this social interoperability thing a lot lately, but what priority should it be? These companies can barely stay afloat as it is, and why would the stable ones make their competitors more competitive? I just don't get why this would even be thought of as a reasonable request. I haven't found the GMail command to export all mail to Yahoo yet either. Go figure. I’ve heard this social interoperability thing a lot lately, but what priority should it be? These companies can barely stay afloat as it is, and why would the stable ones make their competitors more competitive?

I just don’t get why this would even be thought of as a reasonable request.

I haven’t found the GMail command to export all mail to Yahoo yet either. Go figure.

]]> By: sakki http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732381 sakki Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:46:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732381 tmp and iwin are now owned by vendarmedia...don't know anything about them. tmp and iwin are now owned by vendarmedia…don’t know anything about them.

]]> By: sakki http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732371 sakki Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:45:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732371 tmp = trafficmarketplace.com tmp = trafficmarketplace.com

]]> By: sakki http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732364 sakki Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:44:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732364 some of the key people at tmp, at least in the early days, took too much $$ for themselves....freddie did that at iwin.com as well right as they got bought out by uproar.com back in 2001. tmp basically invented pop-under ads, and several sites were able to use pop-unders to inflate their media metrix numbers (now comscore), which isn't a crime in itself...... but tmp's customers also had many complaints about the stats and results from their ad buys but tmp always turned a deaf ear. it's pretty well known that these two guys are fairly slimy, especially freddie. i would never do a deal with these guys. some of the key people at tmp, at least in the early days, took too much $$ for themselves….freddie did that at iwin.com as well right as they got bought out by uproar.com back in 2001.

tmp basically invented pop-under ads, and several sites were able to use pop-unders to inflate their media metrix numbers (now comscore), which isn’t a crime in itself…… but tmp’s customers also had many complaints about the stats and results from their ad buys but tmp always turned a deaf ear.

it’s pretty well known that these two guys are fairly slimy, especially freddie. i would never do a deal with these guys.

]]> By: Jonathan Jiang http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732160 Jonathan Jiang Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:15:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732160 @1.sakki: temporary business was "slimy". Details please? @1.sakki: temporary business was “slimy”. Details please?

]]> By: Stat Head http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732118 Stat Head Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:05:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/tagworld-deadpool-or-success/#comment-732118 Wow -- take a quick look at the Compete chart for Tagworld.com: http://snapshot.compete.com/tagworld.com?int=1032 Month Δ: -39.1% Year Δ: -88.8% Wow — take a quick look at the Compete chart for Tagworld.com:
http://snapshot.compete.com/tagworld.com?int=1032

Month Δ: -39.1%
Year Δ: -88.8%

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