Comments on: Complicated Laws = Free Calls http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/ Startup and Technology News Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:58:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Techo Zed Meuw » Complicated Laws = Free Calls! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1726560 Techo Zed Meuw » Complicated Laws = Free Calls! Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:09:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1726560 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: » News to know: ID theft nightmare; Safari for Windows; SAP, AMD stumble | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1389839 » News to know: ID theft nightmare; Safari for Windows; SAP, AMD stumble | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com Tue, 22 May 2007 23:04:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1389839 [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls. [...] [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls. [...]

]]> By: SMS Text News » Follow up to Allfreecalls.net posting http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1324701 SMS Text News » Follow up to Allfreecalls.net posting Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:21:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1324701 [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls Here’s my understanding of how this works: the founder created his own telephone company in Iowa. [...] [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls Here’s my understanding of how this works: the founder created his own telephone company in Iowa. [...]

]]> By: "Cell Phone Teleclass Attendees Getting Blocked" by Joe Taylor Jr. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1293018 "Cell Phone Teleclass Attendees Getting Blocked" by Joe Taylor Jr. Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:57:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1293018 [...] providers that upset the apple cart. In fact, a few upstart companies had started offering free international long distance calls using the same revenue model — dial in to a rural number with a high “termination [...] [...] providers that upset the apple cart. In fact, a few upstart companies had started offering free international long distance calls using the same revenue model — dial in to a rural number with a high “termination [...]

]]> By: Free international calls by calling Iowa at ProBargainHunter.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1283477 Free international calls by calling Iowa at ProBargainHunter.com Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:50:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1283477 [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls at [...] [...] Complicated Laws = Free Calls at [...]

]]> By: Otto http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1196792 Otto Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:54:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1196792 Gizmocall, lets you call to international landlines for free for 10 min a day, 3 min duration of one call. A great way to say hello and ask about weather. http://nationwideLD.com Compare long distance companies and plans for home, residential, small business, International calls! Gizmocall, lets you call to international landlines for free for 10 min a day, 3 min duration of one call. A great way to say hello and ask about weather.

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]]> By: Deys http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1145798 Deys Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:27:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1145798 Hi I found Uganda on www.reallyjustdial.co.uk . by the way I have tried a lot of calling cards and living aboard I am always ringing back home. I have had a look at the rates and they are quiet similar to the service I use at www.reallyjustdial.co.uk. The only problem I have with calling cards is that there is always a connection charge, which eats always from the minutes you have on the card, and secondly it cuts off after a certain time, so re-dialing, hence and new connection charge. Thirdly the line quality on most of the cards not so good Nevertheless, exceptions are there. I have found it easier to put up phone and dial the access numbers I get from www.reallyjustdial.co.uk Regards Hi

I found Uganda on http://www.reallyjustdial.co.uk . by the way I have tried a lot of calling cards and living aboard I am always ringing back home. I have had a look at the rates and they are quiet similar to the service I use at http://www.reallyjustdial.co.uk. The only problem I have with calling cards is that there is always a connection charge, which eats always from the minutes you have on the card, and secondly it cuts off after a certain time, so re-dialing, hence and new connection charge. Thirdly the line quality on most of the cards not so good

Nevertheless, exceptions are there. I have found it easier to put up phone and dial the access numbers I get from http://www.reallyjustdial.co.uk

Regards

]]> By: AllFreeCalls Shut Down http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1090632 AllFreeCalls Shut Down Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:31:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1090632 [...] there. The user only pays the toll to Iowa, if any. See our original post for more information on how it works. Apparently all of these free calls (from AllFreeCalls as well as other similar services) resulted [...] [...] there. The user only pays the toll to Iowa, if any. See our original post for more information on how it works. Apparently all of these free calls (from AllFreeCalls as well as other similar services) resulted [...]

]]> By: herbert http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1090406 herbert Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:00:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1090406 no uganda on the list whats up with that?!!! i guess we just have to wait for more competitors to come in to the game.for now still nothing beats calling cards. no uganda on the list whats up with that?!!! i guess we just have to wait for more competitors to come in to the game.for now still nothing beats calling cards.

]]> By: aulon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1073283 aulon Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:33:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-1073283 loni loni

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]]> By: Mark Tomin T1 Lines http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-965355 Mark Tomin T1 Lines Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:51:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-965355 Thanks for the update. Even if this one goes down, I am sure there will be more companies poping up offering same services until the loop hole is fixed. http://t1-lines.net Thanks for the update. Even if this one goes down, I am sure there will be more companies poping up offering same services until the loop hole is fixed.

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]]> By: AllFreeCalls Shut Down http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-957505 AllFreeCalls Shut Down Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:42:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-957505 [...] The service people to make international phone calls absolutely free by exploiting a FCC regulation that provides kickbacks on incoming calls to rural phone companies. Users first call a phone number in Iowa and then calling to any of dozens of other countries from there. The user only pays the toll to Iowa, if any. See our original post for more information on how it works. [...] [...] The service people to make international phone calls absolutely free by exploiting a FCC regulation that provides kickbacks on incoming calls to rural phone companies. Users first call a phone number in Iowa and then calling to any of dozens of other countries from there. The user only pays the toll to Iowa, if any. See our original post for more information on how it works. [...]

]]> By: joe http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-957275 joe Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:57:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-957275 just got off chatting with pat the owner of this company. he's gonna blog on this issue at his blog (http://blog.roam4free.ie/) and probably post some comment here as well regarding this issue. but the short story is it's a combination of technical problems (load capacity expansion needed) and legal problems (dealing with a 2 million $$ lawsuit from our good neighborly friends over at AT&T). he said they're getting sued at every step of the process... but the good news is he said they got 1/2 dozen engineers working on the service and should be back up shortly. keep an eye on this one, the big boys don't like to see the kickback service companies proliferate. monopolies are good for business. just got off chatting with pat the owner of this company. he’s gonna blog on this issue at his blog (http://blog.roam4free.ie/) and probably post some comment here as well regarding this issue. but the short story is it’s a combination of technical problems (load capacity expansion needed) and legal problems (dealing with a 2 million $$ lawsuit from our good neighborly friends over at AT&T). he said they’re getting sued at every step of the process… but the good news is he said they got 1/2 dozen engineers working on the service and should be back up shortly. keep an eye on this one, the big boys don’t like to see the kickback service companies proliferate. monopolies are good for business.

]]> By: Jay http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-944075 Jay Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:15:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-944075 It was good while it lasted. Knowing it probably wouldn't last, I used it to the utmost. Oh well, back to using skype. It was good while it lasted. Knowing it probably wouldn’t last, I used it to the utmost. Oh well, back to using skype.

]]> By: vicky http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-926185 vicky Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:55:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-926185 visit http://voipsms.blogspot.com for free calls visit http://voipsms.blogspot.com for free calls

]]> By: ali http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-923882 ali Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:21:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-923882 abc abc

]]> By: Moshe Maeir http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-895868 Moshe Maeir Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:28:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-895868 As I wrote on my blog - http://flatplanetphone.com/wordpress/?p=40 They received a cease and desist order As I wrote on my blog - http://flatplanetphone.com/wordpress/?p=40
They received a cease and desist order

]]> By: Alex http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-886061 Alex Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:33:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-886061 Why has Futurephone and Ophone shut down? Service in the UK (like http://www.dialabroad.co.uk/mobileplus, http://www.call2abroad.com, etc. etc.) have been running for many months or even years. Surely competition in the US is good for consumers. Know what I mean? Why has Futurephone and Ophone shut down? Service in the UK (like http://www.dialabroad.co.uk/mobileplus, http://www.call2abroad.com, etc. etc.) have been running for many months or even years. Surely competition in the US is good for consumers. Know what I mean?

]]> By: wtchoax http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-857344 wtchoax Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:40:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-857344 pretty disturbing to see legions of righteous fanboys gesticulating about this... when it was fully detailed TWO MONTHS prior at Saunders... aptly shown in comments 8, 16, 44. Hey, what should I know, in fing Havana? Isn't Pork simply the decline and fall of the hoaxed Democratic albeit NWO Imperialism of "Greed Gone Wild!" pretty disturbing to see legions of righteous fanboys gesticulating about this…
when it was fully detailed TWO MONTHS prior at Saunders…
aptly shown in comments 8, 16, 44.
Hey, what should I know, in fing Havana? Isn’t Pork simply the decline and fall of the hoaxed Democratic albeit NWO Imperialism of “Greed Gone Wild!”

]]> By: Young http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-852205 Young Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:15:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-852205 Tried both cell & landline for Korea (South Korea) its call to this type of # is not allowed!!!??? Tried both cell & landline for Korea (South Korea) its call to this type of # is not allowed!!!???

]]> By: Moshe Maeir http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-834814 Moshe Maeir Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:14:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-834814 You can also do it! See my blog at http://flatplanetphone.com/wordpress/?p=31 You can also do it! See my blog at http://flatplanetphone.com/wordpress/?p=31

]]> By: Martin Smink http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-826349 Martin Smink Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:10:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/12/complicated-laws-free-calls/#comment-826349 Old Skool stuff. But nice as long as it takes. I would say use it as long as it is available. Hopefully their line capacity is sufficient! They make some money from incoming calls (based on a kickback) and they subsidise the the termination for calls to fixed numbers in Europe etc. only some mobiel numbers are supported like Singapore where mobile termination is also very low. With this service I still have to pay for the international call to Iowa! So it's a US only solution... It's not economical to use the service outside the US. Right? Personally I'll think the future is in the mobile-2-community businessmodels, like Nimbuzz, www.nimbuzz.com, is offering. Global mobile calls at local rates. (International) Groupcalls straight from your mobile. Free and integrated mobile IM. And free Text services. These are sustainable businessmodels you can use if this service lost its momentum. Cheers! Old Skool stuff. But nice as long as it takes. I would say use it as long as it is available. Hopefully their line capacity is sufficient!

They make some money from incoming calls (based on a kickback) and they subsidise the the termination for calls to fixed numbers in Europe etc. only some mobiel numbers are supported like Singapore where mobile termination is also very low.

With this service I still have to pay for the international call to Iowa! So it’s a US only solution… It’s not economical to use the service outside the US. Right?

Personally I’ll think the future is in the mobile-2-community businessmodels, like Nimbuzz, http://www.nimbuzz.com, is offering. Global mobile calls at local rates. (International) Groupcalls straight from your mobile. Free and integrated mobile IM. And free Text services. These are sustainable businessmodels you can use if this service lost its momentum.

Cheers!

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