Comments on: Pissing Off Skype http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:38:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: jwarner http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-1167078 jwarner Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:34:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-1167078 Most of you are talking about a sideline feature to SKYPE, for better or worse, that is insignificant to the way SKYPE itself sucks. All the people who paid like myself for a promotional plan pre Jan. 31st for $14.95 who still do not have free unlimited calling within the U.S. All the people who got their credit cards charged twice and haven't had their problems resolved. A customer support center that doesn't exist. What a wretched company. Most of you are talking about a sideline feature to SKYPE, for better or worse, that is insignificant to the way SKYPE itself sucks. All the people who paid like myself for a promotional plan pre Jan. 31st for $14.95 who still do not have free unlimited calling within the U.S. All the people who got their credit cards charged twice and haven’t had their problems resolved. A customer support center that doesn’t exist. What a wretched company.

]]> By: Pasquale http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-1138026 Pasquale Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:53:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-1138026 Talqer does not work. Stay away from it. Talqer does not work. Stay away from it.

]]> By: Unhappy consumer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-801960 Unhappy consumer Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:14:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-801960 This service so far really sucks and I am getting bad vibes. First the free incoming calls number does not work, and even if it did the area code would mean that everyone calling from a land line would have to pay long distance. Remember most places already offer free pc to pc calls, so that is the only thing this inbound number would be good for, that is if it did work. They processed my credit card 3 times, all of which failed, and now this company has my number and ccv, which who knows if they are even an honest company. I realised they are a skype hack after the fact. I used the credit that I purchased to buy two phone numbers and the numbers don't work. Well after emailing them I have had no response, so it looks like that money is gone, plus I am worried about my cc number now. So really why would anyone use this service? I used it because Skype does not have inbound numbers in my area. I order this service to get the inbound numbers only to find that they don't work and zero response from these people. This service so far really sucks and I am getting bad vibes. First the free incoming calls number does not work, and even if it did the area code would mean that everyone calling from a land line would have to pay long distance. Remember most places already offer free pc to pc calls, so that is the only thing this inbound number would be good for, that is if it did work.

They processed my credit card 3 times, all of which failed, and now this company has my number and ccv, which who knows if they are even an honest company. I realised they are a skype hack after the fact.

I used the credit that I purchased to buy two phone numbers and the numbers don’t work. Well after emailing them I have had no response, so it looks like that money is gone, plus I am worried about my cc number now.

So really why would anyone use this service? I used it because Skype does not have inbound numbers in my area. I order this service to get the inbound numbers only to find that they don’t work and zero response from these people.

]]> By: Jamaica http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-747807 Jamaica Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:11:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-747807 Adam and Eve, Yes it is free! 1st one you get directly when you sign up, the second one you have to pay for. Adam and Eve,

Yes it is free! 1st one you get directly when you sign up, the second one you have to pay for.

]]> By: Cintra http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-738060 Cintra Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:42:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-738060 Ref cctech and punjab I am experiencing similar lack of service response & 'unusual' handling of Paypal. I started the signup process, chose to go for Paypal $10, was informed an email would be sent for confirmation of the Paypal (I think there was a reference to fraud in the message). I received the email, clicked on the link, and got "Server error". I tried different browsers on Mac and PC - they all failed. I sent an email to talqer over 24 hours ago with no response! Thats it for me, not good vibrations... Ref cctech and punjab

I am experiencing similar lack of service response & ‘unusual’ handling of Paypal.

I started the signup process, chose to go for Paypal $10, was informed an email would be sent for confirmation of the Paypal (I think there was a reference to fraud in the message). I received the email, clicked on the link, and got “Server error”. I tried different browsers on Mac and PC - they all failed.

I sent an email to talqer over 24 hours ago with no response! Thats it for me, not good vibrations…

]]> By: adam and eve http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-736649 adam and eve Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:43:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-736649 They won't just piss off Skype. They're pissing ME off. Incoming phone numbers are NOT free. Those bastards say "Free TalqIn Phone Numbers for everyone!" on their front page, and TEchCrunch relays that. BUt click on TalqIn, and you get "Best of all, TalqIn is affordable. At prices starting at €2.40 ($3.00) per month TalqIn provides convenience and peace of mind without costing an arm and a leg." http://talqer.com/talq_in.html?&a4a~QCUPWN27mXjwvKLnDAv6EzbzluUr Fuck em They won’t just piss off Skype. They’re pissing ME off.

Incoming phone numbers are NOT free.

Those bastards say “Free TalqIn Phone Numbers for everyone!” on their front page, and TEchCrunch relays that.
BUt click on TalqIn, and you get
“Best of all, TalqIn is affordable. At prices starting at €2.40 ($3.00) per month TalqIn provides convenience and peace of mind without costing an arm and a leg.”
http://talqer.com/talq_in.html.....v6EzbzluUr

Fuck em

]]> By: Stiffler http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-710924 Stiffler Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:57:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-710924 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_Protocol

]]> By: Stiffler http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-710912 Stiffler Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:55:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-710912 Reverse-engineering the skype protocol is not illegal. Changing the skype code is however an altogether different issue. Once the protocol is cracked we will see an open source app that can use the skype protocol (as well as SIP) and we will see lots of new functionality. This is good for the consumer. At the same time it won't stop people using paid-for services like SkypeOut, SkypeIn. It will encourage competition in the provision of additional services. Being locked-in is bad for the consumer. Reverse-engineering the skype protocol is not illegal. Changing the skype code is however an altogether different issue. Once the protocol is cracked we will see an open source app that can use the skype protocol (as well as SIP) and we will see lots of new functionality. This is good for the consumer. At the same time it won’t stop people using paid-for services like SkypeOut, SkypeIn. It will encourage competition in the provision of additional services.

Being locked-in is bad for the consumer.

]]> By: Skype Journal http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-705678 Skype Journal Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:30:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-705678 <strong>Minute-stealer TalQer 1.0 out of beta...</strong> TalQer version 1.0.0.1 is out of beta with a few surprises. It's a plug-in to GoogleTalk, and now to Skype, that lets you dial out on TalQer's network using your existing address book. UPDATE: Let me explain the "minute-stealer" term s... Minute-stealer TalQer 1.0 out of beta…

TalQer version 1.0.0.1 is out of beta with a few surprises. It’s a plug-in to GoogleTalk, and now to Skype, that lets you dial out on TalQer’s network using your existing address book. UPDATE: Let me explain the "minute-stealer" term s…

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-691671 Jason Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:12:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-691671 I think I only saw one commentor spot it. How many other people know ? SKYPE is p2p.....meaning your conversation reaches your friend on the other end of the line via hundreds of other SKYPE clients. That is to say, they spray your conversation data halfway around the internet, (yes through other folks computers who are online with SKYPE) to deliver the messages. I think I only saw one commentor spot it.

How many other people know ?

SKYPE is p2p…..meaning your conversation reaches your friend on the other end of the line via hundreds of other SKYPE clients. That is to say, they spray your conversation data halfway around the internet, (yes through other folks computers who are online with SKYPE) to deliver the messages.

]]> By: other http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-686499 other Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:39:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-686499 Amen. I hope these idiots get screwed. Amen. I hope these idiots get screwed.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-685781 Anonymous Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:04:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-685781 What I don't get is how a company can hinge its business model on a hack that violates the DMCA and the terms of use of another competitor. As l33t as that all may sound, it's a pretty amateurish business move if you ask me. What I don’t get is how a company can hinge its business model on a hack that violates the DMCA and the terms of use of another competitor. As l33t as that all may sound, it’s a pretty amateurish business move if you ask me.

]]> By: lemon obrien http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-685183 lemon obrien Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:12:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-685183 this is stupid; first...why should SKYP play with others, the others suck...and this is bidness, america, capitalism... i thik you should share your revenue with other bloggers...or at least venturebeat.com cause it seems many times you rip them other by repasting a story over here. this is stupid; first…why should SKYP play with others, the others suck…and this is bidness, america, capitalism…

i thik you should share your revenue with other bloggers…or at least venturebeat.com cause it seems many times you rip them other by repasting a story over here.

]]> By: cctech http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-684289 cctech Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:43:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-684289 I went to check out Talqer and was getting ready to signup when I noticed that their online signup form is not encrypted. Not cool. I wonder how many people have entered their credit card info. on that page? I went to check out Talqer and was getting ready to signup when I noticed that their online signup form is not encrypted. Not cool.

I wonder how many people have entered their credit card info. on that page?

]]> By: TalQer hacks Skype - VoIP Sol http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683831 TalQer hacks Skype - VoIP Sol Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:52:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683831 [...] However, like Michael Arrington I am unsure that TalQer will really gain significant traction even with this Skype ‘hack’. I would also be very busy finding a good legal representative as things could very easily escalate between Skype and TalQer. [...] [...] However, like Michael Arrington I am unsure that TalQer will really gain significant traction even with this Skype ‘hack’. I would also be very busy finding a good legal representative as things could very easily escalate between Skype and TalQer. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Skype、鼻をあかされる http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683706 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Skype、鼻をあかされる Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:20:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683706 [...] [原文へ] Skype TalQer [...] [...] [原文へ] Skype TalQer [...]

]]> By: other http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683433 other Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:09:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683433 I agree with these sentiments: a) it is to no one's real advantage that this was hacked (is it really worth depriving skype of their earnings just so that you can access a skype account on meebo? who cares?) b) it is illegal and it's f**king distasteful of techcrunch to even remotely sound like it promotes/is ok with this sort of thing c) adam is right - techcrunch has diversified into the sh**-tabloid of the software and startups. way to go - you went from being the new york times to being the new york post in the span of a couple of years. class act, that arrington. I agree with these sentiments:

a) it is to no one’s real advantage that this was hacked (is it really worth depriving skype of their earnings just so that you can access a skype account on meebo? who cares?)
b) it is illegal and it’s f**king distasteful of techcrunch to even remotely sound like it promotes/is ok with this sort of thing
c) adam is right - techcrunch has diversified into the sh**-tabloid of the software and startups. way to go - you went from being the new york times to being the new york post in the span of a couple of years. class act, that arrington.

]]> By: adam http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683034 adam Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:24:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-683034 seriously what the ****?! what happened to the old web 2.0 startup blog, now techcrunch just seems to be about promoting hacks, bad news in companies and well general crap ... seriously what the ****?!

what happened to the old web 2.0 startup blog, now techcrunch just seems to be about promoting hacks, bad news in companies and well general crap …

]]> By: Rajeev Vashisht http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682827 Rajeev Vashisht Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:13:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682827 Competitors can be stakeholders to the entire Industry in a mature setup. www.tekno-world.blogspot.com Competitors can be stakeholders to the entire Industry in a mature setup.

http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com

]]> By: kysen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682822 kysen Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:12:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682822 I think the best issue for Skype is to consider the new features provided by Talqer (invoice mail and free inbound number). As an intensive VoIP services user, I would say the most valuable service I have the better it would be for me. Moreover, I'd like to deal with Wengo (http://www.wengo.com/) which is another VoIp solution but completely open source. Contrary to Punjabi experience, here I have a very good support. I think the best issue for Skype is to consider the new features provided by Talqer (invoice mail and free inbound number). As an intensive VoIP services user, I would say the most valuable service I have the better it would be for me. Moreover, I’d like to deal with Wengo (http://www.wengo.com/) which is another VoIp solution but completely open source. Contrary to Punjabi experience, here I have a very good support.

]]> By: matt smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682793 matt smith Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:01:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682793 I wish they would hack skype so it could use other IM services, I hate having up to three programs running just so I can talk to my network of contacts who for various reasons do not like cerain services. If GAIM can do it why can skype not do it, whats the advantage, surely you want people to use your software more than your network? I wish they would hack skype so it could use other IM services, I hate having up to three programs running just so I can talk to my network of contacts who for various reasons do not like cerain services. If GAIM can do it why can skype not do it, whats the advantage, surely you want people to use your software more than your network?

]]> By: Hans Blaauw http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682781 Hans Blaauw Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:59:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682781 Wow, worldnews! Really? Come on, putting a button on the Skype interface is not too difficult! A few have already done that in the past and you break the EULA with it. They could have done it in line with the EULA by using the API and catching a SkypeOut call before it actually calls and then let TalQuer take over the call. Skype can never break this because it is really easy to directly write something in someone others interface. Every Windows API programmer knows how to do this, right? Wow, worldnews! Really? Come on, putting a button on the Skype interface is not too difficult! A few have already done that in the past and you break the EULA with it.

They could have done it in line with the EULA by using the API and catching a SkypeOut call before it actually calls and then let TalQuer take over the call.

Skype can never break this because it is really easy to directly write something in someone others interface. Every Windows API programmer knows how to do this, right?

]]> By: S.Z. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682468 S.Z. Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:35:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-682468 In a P2P world, as there's almost no server, client is the core of the technology and service. So nobody would like to open the client software. If skype really gets hacked, then everybody would be easy to launch a skype alike service, just as BT. Tech Tutorials: www.hotcoding.com In a P2P world, as there’s almost no server, client is the core of the technology and service. So nobody would like to open the client software. If skype really gets hacked, then everybody would be easy to launch a skype alike service, just as BT.

Tech Tutorials: http://www.hotcoding.com

]]> By: Alex Yurek http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-681993 Alex Yurek Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:11:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-681993 I suspect that Skype will either break this in the next update or they will be shutdown by a lawsuit. Either way, this hack will go no where. I suspect that Skype will either break this in the next update or they will be shutdown by a lawsuit. Either way, this hack will go no where.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-681991 Andrew Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:10:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/pissing-off-skype/#comment-681991 That does add nice functionality, this will just make the Skype team step up to the plate, bet we'll see a buy out or nasty law suit. That does add nice functionality, this will just make the Skype team step up to the plate, bet we’ll see a buy out or nasty law suit.

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