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	<title>Comments on: Rumor: Slide&#8217;s Venture Round Was $20 million</title>
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		<title>By: Slide Hosting One Million New Widgets Daily: That&#8217;s a Lot Of Widgets</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-1576644</link>
		<dc:creator>Slide Hosting One Million New Widgets Daily: That&#8217;s a Lot Of Widgets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Slide has impeccable backing, being founded by PayPal co-founder Max Levchin and funded by Mayfield Fund, Khosla Ventures, BlueRun Ventures and Founders Fund with a rumored round of $20million in November 2006. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Slide has impeccable backing, being founded by PayPal co-founder Max Levchin and funded by Mayfield Fund, Khosla Ventures, BlueRun Ventures and Founders Fund with a rumored round of $20million in November 2006. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-1555558</link>
		<dc:creator>techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FlipTrack Get&#8217;s $1.5 M for Syncing Slide Shows</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-1293180</link>
		<dc:creator>FlipTrack Get&#8217;s $1.5 M for Syncing Slide Shows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a crowded space which includes the well established Photobucket and two newer players RockYou and Slide bringing in tens of millions in financing. FlipTrack, however, keeps a distinct niche by focusing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a crowded space which includes the well established Photobucket and two newer players RockYou and Slide bringing in tens of millions in financing. FlipTrack, however, keeps a distinct niche by focusing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Multimedias.mobi &#187; MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-742242</link>
		<dc:creator>Multimedias.mobi &#187; MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What they&#8217;re saying is that MySpace just made its first move in an upcoming big stakes game of &#8220;chicken,&#8221; and that a senior exec there is making a career-defining bet that everyone else will blink first. MySpace is still prickly over the YouTube acquisition (they wanted it), and rumors are that they weren&#8217;t happy that PhotoBucket didn&#8217;t ping them about an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their content onto MySpace user pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What they&#8217;re saying is that MySpace just made its first move in an upcoming big stakes game of &#8220;chicken,&#8221; and that a senior exec there is making a career-defining bet that everyone else will blink first. MySpace is still prickly over the YouTube acquisition (they wanted it), and rumors are that they weren&#8217;t happy that PhotoBucket didn&#8217;t ping them about an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their content onto MySpace user pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-742075</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace is Getting a Little Testy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What they&#8217;re saying is that MySpace just made its first move in an upcoming big stakes game of &#8220;chicken,&#8221; and that a senior exec there is making a career-defining bet that everyone else will blink first. MySpace is still prickly over the YouTube acquisition (they wanted it), and rumors are that they weren&#8217;t happy that PhotoBucket didn&#8217;t ping them about an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their content onto MySpace user pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What they&#8217;re saying is that MySpace just made its first move in an upcoming big stakes game of &#8220;chicken,&#8221; and that a senior exec there is making a career-defining bet that everyone else will blink first. MySpace is still prickly over the YouTube acquisition (they wanted it), and rumors are that they weren&#8217;t happy that PhotoBucket didn&#8217;t ping them about an acquisition before taking their last round of financing, either. Perhaps the recent $20 million Slide funding was one straw too many. All of these companies rely heavily (understatement) on getting their content onto MySpace user pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: guiness</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-685824</link>
		<dc:creator>guiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my view, slide is a smart investment and will bring a great return for the investors soon.

it is impressiv how fast they got from nummer 1000 to nearly 500 top sites of the world. (less than 3 weeks)

i expect them to get on the top 20 sites of the world within the next view months!

how much did you spent to get on the top 20 sites of the world?
i think the investment was much cheaper than your budget ;-)

take a look:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=slide.com

here as well:

http://hitwise.com/registration-page/us-cgm-report.php

cu

p.s.: why should myspace block embeded systems? they made myspace big in bringing more value into myspace. if they block slide, they kill some mil. slideshows within profiles. impossible! hope you all know the facebook story ;-) in the same time they kill all partner business cases they built up!
this is a feature of myspace not a bug :-&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my view, slide is a smart investment and will bring a great return for the investors soon.</p>
<p>it is impressiv how fast they got from nummer 1000 to nearly 500 top sites of the world. (less than 3 weeks)</p>
<p>i expect them to get on the top 20 sites of the world within the next view months!</p>
<p>how much did you spent to get on the top 20 sites of the world?<br />
i think the investment was much cheaper than your budget <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>take a look:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=slide.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/data/deta.....=slide.com</a></p>
<p>here as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://hitwise.com/registration-page/us-cgm-report.php" rel="nofollow">http://hitwise.com/registratio.....report.php</a></p>
<p>cu</p>
<p>p.s.: why should myspace block embeded systems? they made myspace big in bringing more value into myspace. if they block slide, they kill some mil. slideshows within profiles. impossible! hope you all know the facebook story <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> in the same time they kill all partner business cases they built up!<br />
this is a feature of myspace not a bug :-&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: lemon obrien</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-679738</link>
		<dc:creator>lemon obrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they got money b/c its owned by Max Levine (?) of PayPal fame; just like the guys who did youTube. Lots of PayPal people are big-time, Peter Theil for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they got money b/c its owned by Max Levine (?) of PayPal fame; just like the guys who did youTube. Lots of PayPal people are big-time, Peter Theil for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Planblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007: Business models for widgets?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-676862</link>
		<dc:creator>Planblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007: Business models for widgets?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] German e-commerce blog Exciting Commerce points to an interesting comment on Techcrunch by Jeremy Liew of Lightspeed Venture Partners with regard to the recent $20 million venture round in Slide and just how they might be making money: I led Lightspeed Venture Partner’s invesment in Rockyou, and am also a friend of Max’s at Slide. I can’t comment on the substance of this rumor, but wanted to respond to some of the comments. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] German e-commerce blog Exciting Commerce points to an interesting comment on Techcrunch by Jeremy Liew of Lightspeed Venture Partners with regard to the recent $20 million venture round in Slide and just how they might be making money: I led Lightspeed Venture Partner’s invesment in Rockyou, and am also a friend of Max’s at Slide. I can’t comment on the substance of this rumor, but wanted to respond to some of the comments. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Slideのベンチャー資金はなんと、$20Mという噂</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-673923</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Slideのベンチャー資金はなんと、$20Mという噂</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [原文へ]  Slide [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-673795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I actually didn't work for RockYou and compete with Slide on a daily basis, I would probably have agreed with many of your sentiments above.  That said, Slide has probably north of ten million users a month coming to their site at this point (which may come as a surprise to some).  

If you doubt this, take a random sampling of MySpace profiles.  I’ve done over 3,000 at this point.  Both RockYou and Slide each average over 10% of profiles with a slideshow or other widget on them.  MySpace has 100MM users.  Now take a look at Bebo which has integrated Slide and Rockyou.  Do a random sampling of Bebo profiles and you'll see very strong adoption.  Bebo has north of 25MM users.  Across every large (and open) social network, you can do the same analysis.  These users make lots of changes to their slideshows and widgets regularly (i.e. they come back to RockYou and Slide a lot).  Once you add up the numbers, the monthly user numbers start making sense.

The real question is what value massive consumer adoption is worth.  Google didn't generate ANY meaningful revenues and was described as a search 'feature' not a product for quite a while.  But once they attained a massive user base, building Adsense to a revenue juggernaut was actually realizable.

The same could be said for Skype.  A free VOIP product charging 2 cents a minute for landline calls?  A lot of folks thought that had little value.  Except that there's now over 100MM registered users and nearly 10MM users live at any one time.  This year revenues will cross $200MM (a basis for eBay's multi-billion acquisition) based on MASSIVE user acquisition.

Ultimately if any 'feature' generates the interest of 10s of millions of users and becomes part of their daily, weekly or monthly interaction with the Internet, it's valuable.  Real revenue is very realizable by giving away free services and content to users -- think Google, Yahoo and eBay.  All three offer the bulk of their services (mail, search, news, finance, shopping, voip, payments) for absolutely free.  All three charge for access to their users (through ads) and have premium paid for services.

Finally, the doubts related to technology are very logical.  There are a lot of slideshow providers in the space.  The only issue is that the top 3 providers (RockYou, MySpace and Slide) make up 80% of the market and new competitors with great technology (ala Filmloop or Slideroll) don't get anywhere in the space.  Why?  It’s the viral effect.  I have a post on my blog about that, so I won’t repeat it here.

Ro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I actually didn&#8217;t work for RockYou and compete with Slide on a daily basis, I would probably have agreed with many of your sentiments above.  That said, Slide has probably north of ten million users a month coming to their site at this point (which may come as a surprise to some).  </p>
<p>If you doubt this, take a random sampling of MySpace profiles.  I’ve done over 3,000 at this point.  Both RockYou and Slide each average over 10% of profiles with a slideshow or other widget on them.  MySpace has 100MM users.  Now take a look at Bebo which has integrated Slide and Rockyou.  Do a random sampling of Bebo profiles and you&#8217;ll see very strong adoption.  Bebo has north of 25MM users.  Across every large (and open) social network, you can do the same analysis.  These users make lots of changes to their slideshows and widgets regularly (i.e. they come back to RockYou and Slide a lot).  Once you add up the numbers, the monthly user numbers start making sense.</p>
<p>The real question is what value massive consumer adoption is worth.  Google didn&#8217;t generate ANY meaningful revenues and was described as a search &#8216;feature&#8217; not a product for quite a while.  But once they attained a massive user base, building Adsense to a revenue juggernaut was actually realizable.</p>
<p>The same could be said for Skype.  A free VOIP product charging 2 cents a minute for landline calls?  A lot of folks thought that had little value.  Except that there&#8217;s now over 100MM registered users and nearly 10MM users live at any one time.  This year revenues will cross $200MM (a basis for eBay&#8217;s multi-billion acquisition) based on MASSIVE user acquisition.</p>
<p>Ultimately if any &#8216;feature&#8217; generates the interest of 10s of millions of users and becomes part of their daily, weekly or monthly interaction with the Internet, it&#8217;s valuable.  Real revenue is very realizable by giving away free services and content to users &#8212; think Google, Yahoo and eBay.  All three offer the bulk of their services (mail, search, news, finance, shopping, voip, payments) for absolutely free.  All three charge for access to their users (through ads) and have premium paid for services.</p>
<p>Finally, the doubts related to technology are very logical.  There are a lot of slideshow providers in the space.  The only issue is that the top 3 providers (RockYou, MySpace and Slide) make up 80% of the market and new competitors with great technology (ala Filmloop or Slideroll) don&#8217;t get anywhere in the space.  Why?  It’s the viral effect.  I have a post on my blog about that, so I won’t repeat it here.</p>
<p>Ro</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-673175</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huh? did you actually just use the term "pre-revenue" with a straight face? i'm going to just assume that you're drinking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huh? did you actually just use the term &#8220;pre-revenue&#8221; with a straight face? i&#8217;m going to just assume that you&#8217;re drinking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Micro Space of Oliver Ding &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Buzz on Slide.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-672689</link>
		<dc:creator>Micro Space of Oliver Ding &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Buzz on Slide.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 15, 2006,Slide,Inc announced it has received additional financing. Led by Mayfield Fund, the round also includes investments from Khosla Ventures and previous investors, including BlueRun Ventures and Founders Fund. Founders Fund was not disclosed by the company. But Techcrunch wrote on it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 15, 2006,Slide,Inc announced it has received additional financing. Led by Mayfield Fund, the round also includes investments from Khosla Ventures and previous investors, including BlueRun Ventures and Founders Fund. Founders Fund was not disclosed by the company. But Techcrunch wrote on it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy liew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-671609</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy liew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been some good points raised above, especially by Sundar and Sourabh on FIM. I think there are also some misunderstandings about the degree to which some of these widget companies depend on Myspace.  As a result, I've posted on the Lightspeed blog on some of my thoughts on this matter - you can click on my name in this comment to read it if you're interested.

On a side note, I am not privy to Slide's business, nor to Filmloop's, but I know that Rockyou has built its business on capital an order of magnitude lower than some of the numbers being bandied about here. This isn't a reflection of the high quality Slide and Filmloop engineering teams. From the outside in, I would guess that this is a function of the much higher level of difficulty of building client software than building web apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been some good points raised above, especially by Sundar and Sourabh on FIM. I think there are also some misunderstandings about the degree to which some of these widget companies depend on Myspace.  As a result, I&#8217;ve posted on the Lightspeed blog on some of my thoughts on this matter - you can click on my name in this comment to read it if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
<p>On a side note, I am not privy to Slide&#8217;s business, nor to Filmloop&#8217;s, but I know that Rockyou has built its business on capital an order of magnitude lower than some of the numbers being bandied about here. This isn&#8217;t a reflection of the high quality Slide and Filmloop engineering teams. From the outside in, I would guess that this is a function of the much higher level of difficulty of building client software than building web apps.</p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-671232</link>
		<dc:creator>SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet a chunk of that $20m must have been used to grease the right palms at myspace. 

On a sidenote. VC's are very smart people. They see from the top floor of the highrise; yet tell the tale as visible from the first floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet a chunk of that $20m must have been used to grease the right palms at myspace. </p>
<p>On a sidenote. VC&#8217;s are very smart people. They see from the top floor of the highrise; yet tell the tale as visible from the first floor.</p>
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		<title>By: pwb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-671089</link>
		<dc:creator>pwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Auto-insertion is right out of the PayPal playbook. PayPal is the premier incubator of entrepreneurs in the 2000s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auto-insertion is right out of the PayPal playbook. PayPal is the premier incubator of entrepreneurs in the 2000s.</p>
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		<title>By: Nik Cubrilovic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670945</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik Cubrilovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 05:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion on Slide is somewhere in the middle, I do know that they serve many users and make up a large percentage of photo-hosting across the social networks. Alexa puts them in the top 800 websites.

To me what would be interesting is if Slide has brand recognition or not. ie. are users adopting Slide because it has a good name, or are they taking up 'that slideshow thingy' they saw on a friends page. If Slide has recognition and respect amongst users, then they will be able to use this to branch out into other areas. If not, then users won't be able to tell the difference between a Slide widget and a MySpace widget, and in that battle MySpace would have the upper-hand since they can better integrate their own offering within the network.

Those that mention that FIM can easily shut slide down, you might remember that they tried that with YouTube long ago, and there was such a backlash that the blocking only lasted a little over 24 hours - though the official story was that YouTube widgets didn't work because of a bug in MySpace (which is possible).

The big difference between YouTube and Slide is that YouTube took advantage of their reach within the social networks to become a destination unto itself, I don't think Slide has taken off as a  destination.

Those that think that the value of Slide is simply the cost of replicating the technology are also wrong, it is a very flawed argument. Getting to the level that Slide is at takes a lot more than just technology, and it is often shown that successful companies are often not those with the better technology but are those with the best user experience, market strategy, etc. etc.

As for the funding, this is just a sign of a very healthy VC market. It is hard to judge this deal as an outsider since we don't know the specifics nor do we know about their strategy. The reason for the $20M could be to branch out into other products and to hit other markets.

Having said that, I do agree that users won't accept advertising in their widgets. Even with the most targeted advertising, the user will always have an option to switch to an ad-free alternative. Perhaps a rev share on the ads in a widget *might* be an incentive for users to accept advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion on Slide is somewhere in the middle, I do know that they serve many users and make up a large percentage of photo-hosting across the social networks. Alexa puts them in the top 800 websites.</p>
<p>To me what would be interesting is if Slide has brand recognition or not. ie. are users adopting Slide because it has a good name, or are they taking up &#8216;that slideshow thingy&#8217; they saw on a friends page. If Slide has recognition and respect amongst users, then they will be able to use this to branch out into other areas. If not, then users won&#8217;t be able to tell the difference between a Slide widget and a MySpace widget, and in that battle MySpace would have the upper-hand since they can better integrate their own offering within the network.</p>
<p>Those that mention that FIM can easily shut slide down, you might remember that they tried that with YouTube long ago, and there was such a backlash that the blocking only lasted a little over 24 hours - though the official story was that YouTube widgets didn&#8217;t work because of a bug in MySpace (which is possible).</p>
<p>The big difference between YouTube and Slide is that YouTube took advantage of their reach within the social networks to become a destination unto itself, I don&#8217;t think Slide has taken off as a  destination.</p>
<p>Those that think that the value of Slide is simply the cost of replicating the technology are also wrong, it is a very flawed argument. Getting to the level that Slide is at takes a lot more than just technology, and it is often shown that successful companies are often not those with the better technology but are those with the best user experience, market strategy, etc. etc.</p>
<p>As for the funding, this is just a sign of a very healthy VC market. It is hard to judge this deal as an outsider since we don&#8217;t know the specifics nor do we know about their strategy. The reason for the $20M could be to branch out into other products and to hit other markets.</p>
<p>Having said that, I do agree that users won&#8217;t accept advertising in their widgets. Even with the most targeted advertising, the user will always have an option to switch to an ad-free alternative. Perhaps a rev share on the ads in a widget *might* be an incentive for users to accept advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Arnott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670820</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Arnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 05:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I am going to start hanging out at golf courses that are near VC's in the Valley, as it's seems that's where all the deals are made nowadays. Who needs  a good idea or a business plan, just fund your golf buddy's son cause he said it's really sick, and he throws around some key phrases like ajax, and  web 2.0, and it's really" sick". Did I mention he said it's really "sick"? And this is how a web company gets funded in 2007...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I am going to start hanging out at golf courses that are near VC&#8217;s in the Valley, as it&#8217;s seems that&#8217;s where all the deals are made nowadays. Who needs  a good idea or a business plan, just fund your golf buddy&#8217;s son cause he said it&#8217;s really sick, and he throws around some key phrases like ajax, and  web 2.0, and it&#8217;s really&#8221; sick&#8221;. Did I mention he said it&#8217;s really &#8220;sick&#8221;? And this is how a web company gets funded in 2007&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670738</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with the permanent hater. 

I would love to see the business plan.</description>
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<p>I would love to see the business plan.</p>
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		<title>By: CrunchBack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670729</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchBack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't even understand what the potential revenue sources for this could be.  Can someone enlighten me?</description>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670651</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone above said that the value of the company is alot more than the cost of duplicating the engineering effort.  Basically that the size of the community (even leaching off myspace) is what is really valuable.  That is the way of these social networks, it is the community, not the software that is valuable.  This goes for digg, myspace, youtube, etc...

But, what I have a hard time figuring out is 

- what is slide going to do with $20M bucks ?
- for that matter, what is digg going to do with $14M bucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone above said that the value of the company is alot more than the cost of duplicating the engineering effort.  Basically that the size of the community (even leaching off myspace) is what is really valuable.  That is the way of these social networks, it is the community, not the software that is valuable.  This goes for digg, myspace, youtube, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>But, what I have a hard time figuring out is </p>
<p>- what is slide going to do with $20M bucks ?<br />
- for that matter, what is digg going to do with $14M bucks</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670531</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will also repeat what I said about FilmLoop...

Creating a product or company with no revenue and expecting to be acquired is a horrible idea. I think the VC's are all drinking the same Kool-Aid. 

Maybe it would be a good idea to venture outside of the valley for the next big thing...

Also, the enormous amounts of money being poured into the creation of these small web apps is pure comedy. The bubble is back and lots of people are going to get hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will also repeat what I said about FilmLoop&#8230;</p>
<p>Creating a product or company with no revenue and expecting to be acquired is a horrible idea. I think the VC&#8217;s are all drinking the same Kool-Aid. </p>
<p>Maybe it would be a good idea to venture outside of the valley for the next big thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the enormous amounts of money being poured into the creation of these small web apps is pure comedy. The bubble is back and lots of people are going to get hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Mano</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670491</link>
		<dc:creator>Mano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Mr. VC, a widget is a widget, Slides' adoption has nothing to do with the community thats adopting it, its just the widget du jour.  Shutterfly shows this is a hard hard biz, yet with its own $300M valuation, 80M+ in and lots and lots of users-how on earth do you justify 20M to a widget like Slide...go home!!  Cant believe Vinod did this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mr. VC, a widget is a widget, Slides&#8217; adoption has nothing to do with the community thats adopting it, its just the widget du jour.  Shutterfly shows this is a hard hard biz, yet with its own $300M valuation, 80M+ in and lots and lots of users-how on earth do you justify 20M to a widget like Slide&#8230;go home!!  Cant believe Vinod did this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelia Katherine Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670238</link>
		<dc:creator>Lelia Katherine Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slideshows on MySpace. As if it didn't already look the part of a circus.</description>
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		<title>By: Sundar Krishnamurthy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670082</link>
		<dc:creator>Sundar Krishnamurthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is simplistic to assume that MySpace will block them or create their own.

Blocking would mean MySpace is preventing its users from importing new and innovative content, the very thing that blew them right past Friendster which tried too hard to be a walled garden.

MySpace has created their own but that is no guarantee of success. For example, their addition of video uploads hasn't impacted YouTube in anyway.

The only question that nobody can answer (yet) is the monetization. I think the investment is speculative and the goal may well be an acquisition. Not that there is anything wrong with that :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is simplistic to assume that MySpace will block them or create their own.</p>
<p>Blocking would mean MySpace is preventing its users from importing new and innovative content, the very thing that blew them right past Friendster which tried too hard to be a walled garden.</p>
<p>MySpace has created their own but that is no guarantee of success. For example, their addition of video uploads hasn&#8217;t impacted YouTube in anyway.</p>
<p>The only question that nobody can answer (yet) is the monetization. I think the investment is speculative and the goal may well be an acquisition. Not that there is anything wrong with that :-).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/06/rumor-slides-venture-round-was-20-million/#comment-670035</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't get it: With an $80M valuation, the VCs are expecting an exit of &#62;$400M.  If they start to monetize on MySpace, I imagine FIM would cut them off (or at least demand a substantial share).  Also, I can't imagine FIM would pay $400M for it.  If G, Y, or M were to acquire them, I imagine FIM would cut them off.

Do they have some plan they're not disclosing yet?  Otherwise, it makes no sense.  While I've been underwhelmed by some Mayfield investments, Khosla and FF are very smart folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it: With an $80M valuation, the VCs are expecting an exit of &gt;$400M.  If they start to monetize on MySpace, I imagine FIM would cut them off (or at least demand a substantial share).  Also, I can&#8217;t imagine FIM would pay $400M for it.  If G, Y, or M were to acquire them, I imagine FIM would cut them off.</p>
<p>Do they have some plan they&#8217;re not disclosing yet?  Otherwise, it makes no sense.  While I&#8217;ve been underwhelmed by some Mayfield investments, Khosla and FF are very smart folks.</p>
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