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	<title>Comments on: Wiki.com - No Longer the $3 million Wikipedia Killer</title>
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		<title>By: drifters.escape.1.1 &#187; John Wright Gotts - Wiki.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-2180396</link>
		<dc:creator>drifters.escape.1.1 &#187; John Wright Gotts - Wiki.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] -edit- Oh well. There it goes, sorry for John Gotts :-/. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drifters.escape.1.1 &#187; John Wright Gotts - The Self-Made Man.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-2180371</link>
		<dc:creator>drifters.escape.1.1 &#187; John Wright Gotts - The Self-Made Man.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He does have some weird ideas sometimes though. Kill Wikipedia? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Niccola</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-932968</link>
		<dc:creator>Niccola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite the hero that the above post would suggest. It seems that Gotts is accused of ripping off his backers (see http://files.ww.com/files/28308.html for full details) and the courts have issued  restraining order against him (see http://files.ww.com/files/28309.html for full details). Gotts wasn't kind to anyone, he simply drove it to the limit with money he didn't own, and muddied the water for everyone else.

This guy isn't a serial entrepreuneur, he's a parallel disaster, perhaps a contender for the worst thing that has hit the internet this year (and last for that matter).

Mindtouch appear to have earned quite nicely out of their association with Gotts, and it looks like they are now using code they were paid for by Gotts (if they ever got paid) on the new site. I suspect they are taking care of themselves as opposed to taking care of any community, but that is what business is all about

But what about the poor people who were conned into financing Gotts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite the hero that the above post would suggest. It seems that Gotts is accused of ripping off his backers (see <a href="http://files.ww.com/files/28308.html" rel="nofollow">http://files.ww.com/files/28308.html</a> for full details) and the courts have issued  restraining order against him (see <a href="http://files.ww.com/files/28309.html" rel="nofollow">http://files.ww.com/files/28309.html</a> for full details). Gotts wasn&#8217;t kind to anyone, he simply drove it to the limit with money he didn&#8217;t own, and muddied the water for everyone else.</p>
<p>This guy isn&#8217;t a serial entrepreuneur, he&#8217;s a parallel disaster, perhaps a contender for the worst thing that has hit the internet this year (and last for that matter).</p>
<p>Mindtouch appear to have earned quite nicely out of their association with Gotts, and it looks like they are now using code they were paid for by Gotts (if they ever got paid) on the new site. I suspect they are taking care of themselves as opposed to taking care of any community, but that is what business is all about</p>
<p>But what about the poor people who were conned into financing Gotts?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-740213</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings All, 

As many of you have likely heard, Wiki.com is shutting down by January 25, 2007. If you are one of the thousands of users who registered a Wiki.com site have no fear. &lt;strong&gt;Your content is safe.&lt;/strong&gt; You will be receiving an email shortly from MindTouch regarding this issue. The gist of this follows. John Gotts, the owner of Wiki.com, has agreed to transfer all wiki sites to MindTouch. The agreement does not include the Wiki.com domain. We at MindTouch have already begun migrating the wikis to new servers. Your ability to preserve your content is &lt;strong&gt;very important&lt;/strong&gt; to MindTouch. We too were concerned and are very glad Gotts has kindly allowed this transfer. We agreed to this transfer with such short notice because our technology powered Wiki.com from the beginning and we are intimately familiar with the backend.  That’s why we are confident we can restore the site in time and make improvements to it over time. Our most immediate concern is, of course, preserving what you have created. We'll be providing additional details shortly on the new domain, features, and services. MindTouch will take care of you and your community.


Aaron Fulkerson

Free Knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings All, </p>
<p>As many of you have likely heard, Wiki.com is shutting down by January 25, 2007. If you are one of the thousands of users who registered a Wiki.com site have no fear. <strong>Your content is safe.</strong> You will be receiving an email shortly from MindTouch regarding this issue. The gist of this follows. John Gotts, the owner of Wiki.com, has agreed to transfer all wiki sites to MindTouch. The agreement does not include the Wiki.com domain. We at MindTouch have already begun migrating the wikis to new servers. Your ability to preserve your content is <strong>very important</strong> to MindTouch. We too were concerned and are very glad Gotts has kindly allowed this transfer. We agreed to this transfer with such short notice because our technology powered Wiki.com from the beginning and we are intimately familiar with the backend.  That’s why we are confident we can restore the site in time and make improvements to it over time. Our most immediate concern is, of course, preserving what you have created. We&#8217;ll be providing additional details shortly on the new domain, features, and services. MindTouch will take care of you and your community.</p>
<p>Aaron Fulkerson</p>
<p>Free Knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: gmoore</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-740196</link>
		<dc:creator>gmoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it smells, it usually rotten Richard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DekiWiki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it smells, it usually rotten Richard: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DekiWiki" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DekiWiki</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-737974</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly this all smacks of bad showmanship and possible collusion.
John Gotts "test drives" wiki.com for $10,000.00 per month for six months .... with option to bail there after.
Immediately wiki.com is discredited and driven into the ground as incompetent.
Meanwhile wiki.com is re directed to wikia.com .....
The shining knight, Prince Jimmy professes no relation to wiki.com yet wiki.com re directs to wikia.com ..... please.
For some $60,000.00 "someone" may have the ability and opportunity to put "on the stink" to competitors and to perhaps be a savior at the same time.
My .... how "for profit" can possibly change things.
This is worthy of National Politics or the Church.
Very clever but it smells bad.
We are here to help you......sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly this all smacks of bad showmanship and possible collusion.<br />
John Gotts &#8220;test drives&#8221; wiki.com for $10,000.00 per month for six months &#8230;. with option to bail there after.<br />
Immediately wiki.com is discredited and driven into the ground as incompetent.<br />
Meanwhile wiki.com is re directed to wikia.com &#8230;..<br />
The shining knight, Prince Jimmy professes no relation to wiki.com yet wiki.com re directs to wikia.com &#8230;.. please.<br />
For some $60,000.00 &#8220;someone&#8221; may have the ability and opportunity to put &#8220;on the stink&#8221; to competitors and to perhaps be a savior at the same time.<br />
My &#8230;. how &#8220;for profit&#8221; can possibly change things.<br />
This is worthy of National Politics or the Church.<br />
Very clever but it smells bad.<br />
We are here to help you&#8230;&#8230;sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-736717</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Marc's comment, and another email I had from a wiki.com user saying the same thing, I have created http://rescued.wikia.com/ where wiki.com users can find out how to migrate their wiki to Wikia.

Despite the current redirection of wiki.com to Wikia, we are not affiliated with this site, but hope to help wiki.com users if this unfortunate rumor turns out to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Marc&#8217;s comment, and another email I had from a wiki.com user saying the same thing, I have created <a href="http://rescued.wikia.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rescued.wikia.com/</a> where wiki.com users can find out how to migrate their wiki to Wikia.</p>
<p>Despite the current redirection of wiki.com to Wikia, we are not affiliated with this site, but hope to help wiki.com users if this unfortunate rumor turns out to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-714330</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media is missing the story; who knows how many wikis are scheduled to disappear in a matter of hours!

Wikia apparently knows nothing about what Gotts is doing according to executives at Wikia.  It looks like Gotts could never get the new and improved wiki software up and running and this Winter apparently lost MindTouch's support.

In the meantime Gotts made the following statement today (1/15/07):

All wikis will be removed in the next 72 hours.
We are sorry to say that this did not work out.
Kind regards,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is missing the story; who knows how many wikis are scheduled to disappear in a matter of hours!</p>
<p>Wikia apparently knows nothing about what Gotts is doing according to executives at Wikia.  It looks like Gotts could never get the new and improved wiki software up and running and this Winter apparently lost MindTouch&#8217;s support.</p>
<p>In the meantime Gotts made the following statement today (1/15/07):</p>
<p>All wikis will be removed in the next 72 hours.<br />
We are sorry to say that this did not work out.<br />
Kind regards,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-670694</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Gotts' father, John Wright Gotts, was the key to the success of pcsafe.com and adware.com because he developed the anti-spam and anti-spyware software sold at those sites. John Gotts' (the son) success, with sites like searching.com, fightclub.com, isocial.com, and now wiki.com, remains to be seen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Gotts&#8217; father, John Wright Gotts, was the key to the success of pcsafe.com and adware.com because he developed the anti-spam and anti-spyware software sold at those sites. John Gotts&#8217; (the son) success, with sites like searching.com, fightclub.com, isocial.com, and now wiki.com, remains to be seen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AngrySparrow &#187; Wiki.com - No Longer the $3 million Wikipedia Killer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-663624</link>
		<dc:creator>AngrySparrow &#187; Wiki.com - No Longer the $3 million Wikipedia Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wiki.com - No Longer the $3 million Wikipedia Killer: John Gotts, the entrepreneur who agreed to pay $3 million for the domain name Wiki.com and reportedly told people he was “going to kill Wikipedia” may have thrown in the towel after just a few months. Instead of launching the promised Wiki site with MindTouch software, the Wiki.com site now simply redirects to Wikia, another wiki service affiliated with Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wiki.com - No Longer the $3 million Wikipedia Killer: John Gotts, the entrepreneur who agreed to pay $3 million for the domain name Wiki.com and reportedly told people he was “going to kill Wikipedia” may have thrown in the towel after just a few months. Instead of launching the promised Wiki site with MindTouch software, the Wiki.com site now simply redirects to Wikia, another wiki service affiliated with Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GODTECH.INFO</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-661759</link>
		<dc:creator>GODTECH.INFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wiki.com - 3 miliony poszły w kosmos?...&lt;/strong&gt;



Jogn Gotts, przedsiębiorca, który zgodził się zapłacić 3 miliony dolarów za domenę Wiki.com, by następnie ogłaszać wszem i wobec, że ma zamiar &#8220;zabić Wikipedię&#8221; - właśnie się poddał. Wystarczyło zaledwie kilka miesięcy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wiki.com - 3 miliony poszły w kosmos?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jogn Gotts, przedsiębiorca, który zgodził się zapłacić 3 miliony dolarów za domenę Wiki.com, by następnie ogłaszać wszem i wobec, że ma zamiar &#8220;zabić Wikipedię&#8221; - właśnie się poddał. Wystarczyło zaledwie kilka miesięcy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pushpendrakumar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659991</link>
		<dc:creator>pushpendrakumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man who made millions by selling spyware and spam killers at Adware.com is less "serial entrepreneur" and more "massively parallel entrepreneur." While running his first site, along with Searching.com, FightClub.com, and others, Gotts recently bought Wiki.com for about some millions. I am not quite sure whther it is $2.86 million or $3 million cause i have not found the exact cost anywhere on the site. 

I think john gotts is not new to this he has been there and done many sucessful deal in the past , but surely not as big as this (wiki), i think this shall payoff soon or later but for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who made millions by selling spyware and spam killers at Adware.com is less &#8220;serial entrepreneur&#8221; and more &#8220;massively parallel entrepreneur.&#8221; While running his first site, along with Searching.com, FightClub.com, and others, Gotts recently bought Wiki.com for about some millions. I am not quite sure whther it is $2.86 million or $3 million cause i have not found the exact cost anywhere on the site. </p>
<p>I think john gotts is not new to this he has been there and done many sucessful deal in the past , but surely not as big as this (wiki), i think this shall payoff soon or later but for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: basicity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659763</link>
		<dc:creator>basicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$3 million for wiki.com, a highly recognizable 4-letter domain name, is a very good buy. Check out some recent sold domains at http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$3 million for wiki.com, a highly recognizable 4-letter domain name, is a very good buy. Check out some recent sold domains at <a href="http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: shepherd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659715</link>
		<dc:creator>shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Domain names are still an asset, but only if they are established websites first. Aside from when it was purchased, who the hell uses business.com for any real reason? All it is is one of those spammy web directories. Again, another example of a widely publicized, completely speculative domain purchase, followed by the application of a questionable business model. Anyone see a trend here? If someone else buys up a common-word domain on spec, then I have a domain to sell you: oceanfrontpropertyinarizona.com.

-Dave "

If you only knew..

p.s
laon.com (yes, typo) was sold couple of days ago for a little over 500k.. no site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Domain names are still an asset, but only if they are established websites first. Aside from when it was purchased, who the hell uses business.com for any real reason? All it is is one of those spammy web directories. Again, another example of a widely publicized, completely speculative domain purchase, followed by the application of a questionable business model. Anyone see a trend here? If someone else buys up a common-word domain on spec, then I have a domain to sell you: oceanfrontpropertyinarizona.com.</p>
<p>-Dave &#8221;</p>
<p>If you only knew..</p>
<p>p.s<br />
laon.com (yes, typo) was sold couple of days ago for a little over 500k.. no site.</p>
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		<title>By: Militant Geek Custom Shirts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bubble Burst 2.0 Continues</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659650</link>
		<dc:creator>Militant Geek Custom Shirts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bubble Burst 2.0 Continues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659650</guid>
		<description>[...] John Gotts paid $3 million for the Wiki.com domain name to be paid in $10,000 monthly installments. He declared he was &#8220;going to kill Wikipedia&#8221;. Now, just a few months later, Wiki.com redirects to Wikia, the for-profit arm behind Wikipedia. Oops! From Techcrunch. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Gotts paid $3 million for the Wiki.com domain name to be paid in $10,000 monthly installments. He declared he was &#8220;going to kill Wikipedia&#8221;. Now, just a few months later, Wiki.com redirects to Wikia, the for-profit arm behind Wikipedia. Oops! From Techcrunch. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ViaWiki - Offers free personal wiki at EduGenic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659529</link>
		<dc:creator>ViaWiki - Offers free personal wiki at EduGenic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With Wiki.com down and out according to Techcrunch, here is another hosted service with a free account level which provides you with 25 megs of space. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With Wiki.com down and out according to Techcrunch, here is another hosted service with a free account level which provides you with 25 megs of space. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659436</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domain names are still an asset, but only if they are established websites first. Aside from when it was purchased, who the hell uses business.com for any real reason? All it is is one of those spammy web directories. Again, another example of a widely publicized, completely speculative domain purchase, followed by the application of a questionable business model. Anyone see a trend here? If someone else buys up a common-word domain on spec, then I have a domain to sell you: oceanfrontpropertyinarizona.com.

-Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domain names are still an asset, but only if they are established websites first. Aside from when it was purchased, who the hell uses business.com for any real reason? All it is is one of those spammy web directories. Again, another example of a widely publicized, completely speculative domain purchase, followed by the application of a questionable business model. Anyone see a trend here? If someone else buys up a common-word domain on spec, then I have a domain to sell you: oceanfrontpropertyinarizona.com.</p>
<p>-Dave</p>
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		<title>By: NeoTechie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659302</link>
		<dc:creator>NeoTechie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that domain names are still an asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that domain names are still an asset.</p>
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		<title>By: michuk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-659222</link>
		<dc:creator>michuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the competition is huge in the area of Wiki farms. I personally love http://Wikidot.com -- tried lots of other services but Wikidot is simply the most functional one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the competition is huge in the area of Wiki farms. I personally love <a href="http://Wikidot.com" rel="nofollow">http://Wikidot.com</a> &#8212; tried lots of other services but Wikidot is simply the most functional one.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Thickins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-658658</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Thickins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a lot more to this story, which I found out by accident about six weeks ago (but was asked to keep in confidence). One would think TechCrunch could keep prying....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to this story, which I found out by accident about six weeks ago (but was asked to keep in confidence). One would think TechCrunch could keep prying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev Vashsiht</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-658318</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajeev Vashsiht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiki is huge. Humonguous efforts are put to create it, and it has been so long and has brand equity. Difiicult to beat it at its own turf.

http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki is huge. Humonguous efforts are put to create it, and it has been so long and has brand equity. Difiicult to beat it at its own turf.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-657971</link>
		<dc:creator>Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"#  ginchy

January 3rd, 2007 at 6:46 pm

This is the most speculative TechCrunch post ever. Gotts “agreed to pay” $3 million (it’s not clear if he handed over the money yet) for the Wiki.com domain, and “reportedly” (not confirmed) said he was going to “kill” an inanimate web site (he crazy).

Now he “may have” given up his alleged plans (or not). Meanwhile, Wikia CEO Gil Penchina had no comment, a whois lookup shows the domain is still with its original owners. and the whole writeup ends with the ringing conclusion: “we’ll see”.

Why not throw in a bigfoot sighting while you’re at it?
"


Ditto. the original article was of the same caliber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  ginchy</p>
<p>January 3rd, 2007 at 6:46 pm</p>
<p>This is the most speculative TechCrunch post ever. Gotts “agreed to pay” $3 million (it’s not clear if he handed over the money yet) for the Wiki.com domain, and “reportedly” (not confirmed) said he was going to “kill” an inanimate web site (he crazy).</p>
<p>Now he “may have” given up his alleged plans (or not). Meanwhile, Wikia CEO Gil Penchina had no comment, a whois lookup shows the domain is still with its original owners. and the whole writeup ends with the ringing conclusion: “we’ll see”.</p>
<p>Why not throw in a bigfoot sighting while you’re at it?<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto. the original article was of the same caliber.</p>
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		<title>By: Michal Frackowiak</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-657289</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Frackowiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost exactly when Wiki.com started I myself have started w wiki-farm -- 

 - almost exactly the same idea: let people create their Wikis and provide community-related tools, 
- a domain never known before, instead of throwing away 3m$
- no news at Slashdot, Digg, even TechCrunch :-(
- total development and early marketing cost: 6 000$

But somehow I had it "more right" than Wiki.com and the results are:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=www.wikidot.com&#38;site1=wiki.com&#38;site2=&#38;site3=&#38;site4=&#38;y=r&#38;z=1&#38;h=400&#38;w=700&#38;range=6m&#38;size=Large&#38;url=www.wikidot.com

- nicely growing community (did Wiki.com care about its community?)
- over 6000 registered users in a few months and over 2000 _active_ users
- more than 5000 visitors daily
- 3000 page edits daily
- the numbers are growing 30% monthly

IMHO creating Wiki solutions is NOT about the money you put in the domain, but about an idea you have about functionality and building communities. You have to give users creative tools too.

OK, IMHO Wikidot.com vs. Wiki.com: 1:0 ;-)

michal frackowiak
http://www.wikidot.com

BTW: could I be covered by TechCrunch at least? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost exactly when Wiki.com started I myself have started w wiki-farm &#8212; </p>
<p> - almost exactly the same idea: let people create their Wikis and provide community-related tools,<br />
- a domain never known before, instead of throwing away 3m$<br />
- no news at Slashdot, Digg, even TechCrunch <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- total development and early marketing cost: 6 000$</p>
<p>But somehow I had it &#8220;more right&#8221; than Wiki.com and the results are:<br />
<a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?site0=www.wikidot.com&amp;site1=wiki.com&amp;site2=&amp;site3=&amp;site4=&amp;y=r&amp;z=1&amp;h=400&amp;w=700&amp;range=6m&amp;size=Large&amp;url=www.wikidot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/data/deta.....ikidot.com</a></p>
<p>- nicely growing community (did Wiki.com care about its community?)<br />
- over 6000 registered users in a few months and over 2000 _active_ users<br />
- more than 5000 visitors daily<br />
- 3000 page edits daily<br />
- the numbers are growing 30% monthly</p>
<p>IMHO creating Wiki solutions is NOT about the money you put in the domain, but about an idea you have about functionality and building communities. You have to give users creative tools too.</p>
<p>OK, IMHO Wikidot.com vs. Wiki.com: 1:0 <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>michal frackowiak<br />
<a href="http://www.wikidot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikidot.com</a></p>
<p>BTW: could I be covered by TechCrunch at least? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-657237</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who could have seen this coming? Despite all the BS that "direct navigation" players (formerly known as "domain investors" and "domain squatters") give you, the vast majority of generic domains don't generate the insane types of traffic that some might expect. I've seen these people try to sell very generic domains for six and seven figures when they get as little as several thousand unique visitors a month.

But kudos for the person that sold this guy on it. A fool and his money are quickly parted. When John Gotts sat down at the table to negotiate this deal, he should have asked himself "Who's the fool at the table?" and when he didn't see the fool, should have realized that it was him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who could have seen this coming? Despite all the BS that &#8220;direct navigation&#8221; players (formerly known as &#8220;domain investors&#8221; and &#8220;domain squatters&#8221;) give you, the vast majority of generic domains don&#8217;t generate the insane types of traffic that some might expect. I&#8217;ve seen these people try to sell very generic domains for six and seven figures when they get as little as several thousand unique visitors a month.</p>
<p>But kudos for the person that sold this guy on it. A fool and his money are quickly parted. When John Gotts sat down at the table to negotiate this deal, he should have asked himself &#8220;Who&#8217;s the fool at the table?&#8221; and when he didn&#8217;t see the fool, should have realized that it was him.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/03/wikicom-no-longer-the-3-million-wikipedia-killer/#comment-656990</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lot of money spent there I dont think its worth it either. Someone pay me a million for this domain. www.targetwatcher.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of money spent there I dont think its worth it either. Someone pay me a million for this domain. <a href="http://www.targetwatcher.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.targetwatcher.com</a></p>
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