Comments on: Interesting Timing: TailRank Launches Video Today Too http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:27:56 -0800 hourly 1 By: 101 Biggest Stories in Search 2006 | 10e20 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-3007801 101 Biggest Stories in Search 2006 | 10e20 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:58:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-3007801 [...] video search sites launched: StumbleVideo (12/13), Digg (12/18), Megite (12/26), and Tailrank (12/26) 37. Microsoft launches Internet Explorer 7 (10/18) and Mozilla launches Firefox 2 (10/24) [...] [...] video search sites launched: StumbleVideo (12/13), Digg (12/18), Megite (12/26), and Tailrank (12/26) 37. Microsoft launches Internet Explorer 7 (10/18) and Mozilla launches Firefox 2 (10/24) [...]

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]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-618225 Michael Arrington Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:50:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-618225 What I love best about this is that only John, Kevin, Gabe and I are still reading these comments. What I love best about this is that only John, Kevin, Gabe and I are still reading these comments.

]]> By: Kevin Burton http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-617247 Kevin Burton Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:19:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-617247 Yeah.. the Technorati thing sucks..... It means I can't track Tailrank conversations because the widgets overwhelm. This is Technorati's fault of course not ours.... Tags work well but people don't always use tags... ug.... Links fail because a lot of people link to the site for the meme URL. Fun. Yeah.. the Technorati thing sucks….. It means I can’t track Tailrank conversations because the widgets overwhelm. This is Technorati’s fault of course not ours….

Tags work well but people don’t always use tags… ug…. Links fail because a lot of people link to the site for the meme URL.

Fun.

]]> By: John Wehr http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-616816 John Wehr Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:50:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-616816 Not sure where you're going with that Gabe, I have no hidden agenda. I took issue with Mike's assertion that TechMeme is the "leader" given a number of metrics that indicate otherwise. Not sure where you’re going with that Gabe, I have no hidden agenda. I took issue with Mike’s assertion that TechMeme is the “leader” given a number of metrics that indicate otherwise.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-616511 Gabe Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:44:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-616511 John, Tailrank very much tries to cater to the tech oriented crowd. E.g., there's that tech.tailrank.com site (which has 55 subscribers). And remember, you're commenting on a *Tech*Crunch post about Tailrank. So what sampling error would explain a 25:1 imbalance between subscribers? Is it possible people just don't want to subscribe to Tailrank as much? Really, this is seriously lame. Comments on blogs won't help Tailrank raise money or gain users. John, Tailrank very much tries to cater to the tech oriented crowd. E.g., there’s that tech.tailrank.com site (which has 55 subscribers). And remember, you’re commenting on a *Tech*Crunch post about Tailrank.

So what sampling error would explain a 25:1 imbalance between subscribers? Is it possible people just don’t want to subscribe to Tailrank as much?

Really, this is seriously lame. Comments on blogs won’t help Tailrank raise money or gain users.

]]> By: John Wehr http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-610481 John Wehr Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:47:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-610481 Like other metrics, Bloglines' subscription counts are subject to sampling errors. A blogger heavy, tech oriented crowd is more likely to subscribe to an RSS feed or use the Alexa toolbar. Along the same lines, TechMeme is more likely to direct traffic to bloggers than major news sources. Judging by the normalized compete.com visitor count and pages/visit statistics ( http://snapshot.compete.com/techmeme.com+tailrank.com+megite.com ) I'm not sure which site Gabe was talking about when he said, "only one has respectable traction." http://compete.com/help#snp2 Like other metrics, Bloglines’ subscription counts are subject to sampling errors. A blogger heavy, tech oriented crowd is more likely to subscribe to an RSS feed or use the Alexa toolbar. Along the same lines, TechMeme is more likely to direct traffic to bloggers than major news sources. Judging by the normalized compete.com visitor count and pages/visit statistics ( http://snapshot....com+megite.com ) I’m not sure which site Gabe was talking about when he said, “only one has respectable traction.”

http://compete.com/help#snp2

]]> By: Matthew http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-609779 Matthew Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:55:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-609779 Have to agree with Gabe, those “Add to Tailrank” links make tailrank look fabulous. Try to search "tailrank" on technorati, you almost get nothing useful except those "add to tailrank" blogs. Have to agree with Gabe, those “Add to Tailrank” links make tailrank look fabulous. Try to search “tailrank” on technorati, you almost get nothing useful except those “add to tailrank” blogs.

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-609700 Michael Arrington Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:40:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-609700 Nice, I like how you threw reddit in there as a comp for TailRank. Nice, I like how you threw reddit in there as a comp for TailRank.

]]> By: Kevin Burton http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-609379 Kevin Burton Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:18:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-609379 To be honest at the end of the day beating reddit, techmeme, and megite isn't my goal. I'm trying to destroy Techcrunch! Just joking of course...... :) That said, I'm obviously eyeing a much larger market .. To be honest at the end of the day beating reddit, techmeme, and megite isn’t my goal.

I’m trying to destroy Techcrunch!

Just joking of course…… :)

That said, I’m obviously eyeing a much larger market ..

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-608234 Michael Arrington Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:05:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-608234 Meme Fight! Meme Fight!

]]> By: Gabe http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-608043 Gabe Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:05:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-608043 John Wehr, Probably what Mike meant is that more people actually use Techmeme than Tailrank. I notice none of the stats you showed have much to do with actual users. They have alot to do with links, and Tailrank does pretty well there. Why? Earlier this year, "Add to Tailrank" buttons started appearing alongside "Add to Digg" and "Add to del.ico.us" buttons on blogs, and the result is thousands of links to Tailrank from people who don't use Tailrank or sometimes don't even remember what Tailrank is. All those links help Google placement too. I suspect Tailrank gets thousands of hits a day from Google for people looking for primary documents on topics like Britney Spears. Finding an aggregator, those people tend to leave quickly and never return. Public user stats are unavailable, but one public proxy for return users is subscriptions on Bloglines: Tailrank front page http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=4018255 134 subscribers Tailrank tech page http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=4969982 55 subscribers Techmeme http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=5476355 3,479 subscribers Most bloggers I know quote a simliar huge imbalance in referrals from Techmeme vs. Tailrank. (Are any bloggers still reading this comment thread? Want to chime in?) Honestly, I feel a little silly even making this case. The idea that there's a robust industry of "memetrackers" seems to be a blog-fueled fantasy. All these sites are smaller than TechCrunch (nevermind Digg) by every metric that matters. IMO, only one has respectable traction, and that one can definitely use a lot of improvement in 2007. John Wehr,

Probably what Mike meant is that more people actually use Techmeme than Tailrank. I notice none of the stats you showed have much to do with actual users. They have alot to do with links, and Tailrank does pretty well there. Why? Earlier this year, “Add to Tailrank” buttons started appearing alongside “Add to Digg” and “Add to del.ico.us” buttons on blogs, and the result is thousands of links to Tailrank from people who don’t use Tailrank or sometimes don’t even remember what Tailrank is. All those links help Google placement too. I suspect Tailrank gets thousands of hits a day from Google for people looking for primary documents on topics like Britney Spears. Finding an aggregator, those people tend to leave quickly and never return.

Public user stats are unavailable, but one public proxy for return users is subscriptions on Bloglines:

Tailrank front page
http://www.blog...?siteid=4018255
134 subscribers

Tailrank tech page
http://www.blog...?siteid=4969982
55 subscribers

Techmeme
http://www.blog...?siteid=5476355
3,479 subscribers

Most bloggers I know quote a simliar huge imbalance in referrals from Techmeme vs. Tailrank. (Are any bloggers still reading this comment thread? Want to chime in?)

Honestly, I feel a little silly even making this case. The idea that there’s a robust industry of “memetrackers” seems to be a blog-fueled fantasy. All these sites are smaller than TechCrunch (nevermind Digg) by every metric that matters. IMO, only one has respectable traction, and that one can definitely use a lot of improvement in 2007.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 偶然のタイミング？TailRankも動画ランキングを本日ローンチ http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607724 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 偶然のタイミング？TailRankも動画ランキングを本日ローンチ Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:08:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607724 [...] [原文へ] Tailrank [...] [...] [原文へ] Tailrank [...]

]]> By: Patricia http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607672 Patricia Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:56:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607672 @Matthew, I agree. Online traffic stats are unreliable no matter how much people want to say that they're not and with ajax and video, it's going to be all the more difficult. Either way, it's a mistake to underestimate the value of the precise target and overlook smaller traffic sites that offer it. In my opinion, big numbers mean very little if only a tiny percentage of it notices or finds value in your company. @Matthew, I agree. Online traffic stats are unreliable no matter how much people want to say that they’re not and with ajax and video, it’s going to be all the more difficult. Either way, it’s a mistake to underestimate the value of the precise target and overlook smaller traffic sites that offer it. In my opinion, big numbers mean very little if only a tiny percentage of it notices or finds value in your company.

]]> By: Tailrank and Megite add video search; Alexa still sucks at franticindustries - web 2.0, social networking, IT technology trends. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607644 Tailrank and Megite add video search; Alexa still sucks at franticindustries - web 2.0, social networking, IT technology trends. Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:51:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607644 [...] By the way, it’s interesting that Mike Arrington of Techcrunch chooses Techmeme as a clear leader of the three, based on Alexa rankings. A quick look at Compete and Quantcast rankings reveals a different picture. Check it out: Compete clearly puts Tailrank in the first place, [...] [...] By the way, it’s interesting that Mike Arrington of Techcrunch chooses Techmeme as a clear leader of the three, based on Alexa rankings. A quick look at Compete and Quantcast rankings reveals a different picture. Check it out: Compete clearly puts Tailrank in the first place, [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607637 Dave Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:50:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607637 Personally, I find tag clouds easier to use since you see what is hot all at once. These site are nothing but scroll and read and scroll! Personally, I find tag clouds easier to use since you see what is hot all at once. These site are nothing but scroll and read and scroll!

]]> By: john http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607195 john Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:39:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607195 Tailrank blows. Techmeme is way better. Tailrank blows. Techmeme is way better.

]]> By: Greg Linden http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-607002 Greg Linden Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:51:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-607002 Shameless self-promotion, but I would like to mention that Findory launched a video section a few months ago. You can find it at http://findory.com/video Findory Video recommends videos based on what you watch. For example, if you watch a couple of anime shorts through Findory Video, Findory will recommend anime shorts and other related videos you might like. The videos on Findory Video are indexed from Google Video, YouTube, and a few other places. It's also worth mentioning StumbleUpon's new video site: http://video.stumbleupon.com/ It also recommends videos you might like. It has a very nice UI with the videos conveniently embedded in the page. Shameless self-promotion, but I would like to mention that Findory launched a video section a few months ago. You can find it at

http://findory.com/video

Findory Video recommends videos based on what you watch. For example, if you watch a couple of anime shorts through Findory Video, Findory will recommend anime shorts and other related videos you might like.

The videos on Findory Video are indexed from Google Video, YouTube, and a few other places.

It’s also worth mentioning StumbleUpon’s new video site:

http://video.stumbleupon.com/

It also recommends videos you might like. It has a very nice UI with the videos conveniently embedded in the page.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606884 Chris Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606884 Oops, now how do I delete my previous post since I just figured out how to disable those hideously annoying little previews. Carry on. Oops, now how do I delete my previous post since I just figured out how to disable those hideously annoying little previews. Carry on.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606878 Chris Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:14:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606878 Somewhat related question - HOW DO I STOP the SNAP pop-up preview boxes???? Somewhat related question – HOW DO I STOP the SNAP pop-up preview boxes????

]]> By: franticindustries http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606594 franticindustries Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:16:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606594 I also once made the mistake of using Alexa for analysis. But later I did some research on Alexa, which you can find on my site, and I came to the conclusion that Alexa traffic rankings are so completely wrong they can't be used even as a remote indicator of the real traffic rankings of websites. I also once made the mistake of using Alexa for analysis. But later I did some research on Alexa, which you can find on my site, and I came to the conclusion that Alexa traffic rankings are so completely wrong they can’t be used even as a remote indicator of the real traffic rankings of websites.

]]> By: Idolpost http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606503 Idolpost Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:57:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606503 Let's keep rolling new video sites. It's never ending list of Video for every niche of the market. By the end of next year, there might be 500,000 video sharing and ranking sites. :) http://www.idolpost.com/ Let’s keep rolling new video sites. It’s never ending list of Video for every niche of the market. By the end of next year, there might be 500,000 video sharing and ranking sites. :)

http://www.idolpost.com/

]]> By: Adrian Keys http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606364 Adrian Keys Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:21:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606364 "I’d welcome additional data anyone has to offer, and I’d like to hear more about why Mike considers TechMeme the leader. Whatever metrics we use, all three sites are great and innovative in their own way. " - John The metrics speak for themselves...but its obvious that many people have their own preferences and/or are being influenced by news they have heard about the niche in the past. I agree with Matthew.. "I believe if we can all make our users happy, we are all the winners. In fact nobody cares who is No.1, all our users care about whether we provide the on-target and useful info to them." www.jollyjo.org “I’d welcome additional data anyone has to offer, and I’d like to hear more about why Mike considers TechMeme the leader. Whatever metrics we use, all three sites are great and innovative in their own way. ” – John

The metrics speak for themselves…but its obvious that many people have their own preferences and/or are being influenced by news they have heard about the niche in the past.

I agree with Matthew..

“I believe if we can all make our users happy, we are all the winners. In fact nobody cares who is No.1, all our users care about whether we provide the on-target and useful info to them.”

http://www.jollyjo.org

]]> By: IndianPad http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606136 IndianPad Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:33:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606136 <strong>Interesting Timing: TailRank Launches Video Today Too...</strong> Interesting Timing: TailRank Launches Video Today Too posted at IndianPad.com... Interesting Timing: TailRank Launches Video Today Too…

Interesting Timing: TailRank Launches Video Today Too posted at IndianPad.com…

]]> By: web 2 point oh http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/comment-page-1/#comment-606116 web 2 point oh Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:29:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/interesting-timing-tailrank-launches-video-today-too/#comment-606116 Maybe we should post negativity // trash in this post like Kevin Burton seems to do against various other companies. I don't see what all the fuss is about with Tailrank Good luck megite (whoever you are ;) Maybe we should post negativity // trash in this post like Kevin Burton seems to do against various other companies.

I don’t see what all the fuss is about with Tailrank

Good luck megite (whoever you are ;)

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