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	<title>Comments on: AllOfMP3 Responds To RIAA&#8217;s $1.65 Trillion Lawsuit</title>
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		<title>By: Ukrainian Startup MP3Count Springs Up To Sell Music For Pennies</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-2486101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ukrainian Startup MP3Count Springs Up To Sell Music For Pennies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The legal travails of Russian music download service AllOfMP3, which sold music for a few cents per download, are well known. Whether or not it was legal under Russian law, the site was shut down after massive U.S. government pressure on the Russian government and a $1.65 trillion RIAA lawsuit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The legal travails of Russian music download service AllOfMP3, which sold music for a few cents per download, are well known. Whether or not it was legal under Russian law, the site was shut down after massive U.S. government pressure on the Russian government and a $1.65 trillion RIAA lawsuit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright &#171; iBrian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1580377</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright &#171; iBrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] continues to stay in business despite being sued for $1.65 trillion by the RIAA. YouTube, the king of infringers, sold to Google for a cool $1.65 billion. Blogmusik [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1580249</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] continues to stay in business despite being sued for $1.65 trillion by the RIAA. YouTube, the king of infringers, sold to Google for a cool $1.65 billion. Blogmusik [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1580250</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchyroll Pushes the Envelope On Video Copyright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] continues to stay in business despite being sued for $1.65 trillion by the RIAA. YouTube, the king of infringers, sold to Google for a cool $1.65 billion. Blogmusik [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RazorSharp iPods &#38; Raw Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1386681</link>
		<dc:creator>RazorSharp iPods &#38; Raw Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 06:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] within two weeks it was back online and (reportedly) located in the Netherlands. The site, like AllOfMP3.com, continues to be a major target for law enforcement [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming : Forecast-Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1384397</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming : Forecast-Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] within two weeks it was back online and (reportedly) located in the Netherlands. The site, like AllOfMP3.com, continues to be a major target for law enforcement [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1384359</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pirate Bay Moves Into Video Streaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] within two weeks it was back online and (reportedly) located in the Netherlands. The site, like AllOfMP3.com, continues to be a major target for law enforcement [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Militant Geek Custom Shirts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AllOfMP3 Sued for $1.65 Trillion; Cancels Travel to New York</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-1243911</link>
		<dc:creator>Militant Geek Custom Shirts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AllOfMP3 Sued for $1.65 Trillion; Cancels Travel to New York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comrades would wither like a dissent in a Siberian gulag, but not AllOfMP3. TechCrunch notes that the site continues to be defiant: “AllofMP3 understands that several U.S. record label companies filed a lawsuit against Media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comrades would wither like a dissent in a Siberian gulag, but not AllOfMP3. TechCrunch notes that the site continues to be defiant: “AllofMP3 understands that several U.S. record label companies filed a lawsuit against Media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techzi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; December 28 - Economic Imbalance</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-870570</link>
		<dc:creator>Techzi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; December 28 - Economic Imbalance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which of course is quite true! By offering DRM-free music inside Russia, AllOfMP3 is operating under Russian laws without incident. Many conspiracy theories have been floating around the Internet though, as to what the massive cash demanded by the RIAA will go to fuel. Some eager commenters on Digg, pointed out that the sum of $1.65 trillion, is actually worth more than the groos domestic product worth of Russia itself, which currently stands at $1.576 trillion. To me, the amount seems slightly excessive, and if Russian laws make the website legal, then I believe the RIAA has no right to go in and shut the website down. Of course it’s cutting their profits slightly short, but at last count, the music industry wasn’t doing all that badly either though. Thanks to the Internet, the world’s gone mad… But heck, the positive points massively outweight the negative ones. Sourced from TechCrunch. By me at Profy.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Which of course is quite true! By offering DRM-free music inside Russia, AllOfMP3 is operating under Russian laws without incident. Many conspiracy theories have been floating around the Internet though, as to what the massive cash demanded by the RIAA will go to fuel. Some eager commenters on Digg, pointed out that the sum of $1.65 trillion, is actually worth more than the groos domestic product worth of Russia itself, which currently stands at $1.576 trillion. To me, the amount seems slightly excessive, and if Russian laws make the website legal, then I believe the RIAA has no right to go in and shut the website down. Of course it’s cutting their profits slightly short, but at last count, the music industry wasn’t doing all that badly either though. Thanks to the Internet, the world’s gone mad… But heck, the positive points massively outweight the negative ones. Sourced from TechCrunch. By me at Profy.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dupuy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-855530</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Dupuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there is a lot of confusion about the laws in other countries...Americans are not stealing when they order products from Russia.  

And, yes, societies, all of them, decide how to handle intellectual properties, and societies, all of them, balance concerns of the content creator and society in general.   For example, when you write a book in the United STates, eventually it will be come public domain.  It will be a long time after you are dead, but one day, it will be free, for anyone to copy.  Because its nonsensical to keep copyrights forever without expiration...it doesn't provide a benefit to society to lose every work, once it drops out of commericial viability.

By the same token Russia  has a licensing agency, and American companies largely choose not to participate.  They could, but they don't.  So then you have AllofMP3, selling music, paying Royalties, and American companies not even applying for Royalties...because they object to the laws of a sovereign nation.

Than can object, to those laws, to any countries laws...but there isn't any surprises here, about the consequences.

I do hope this gets resolved someday.  But stop accusing americans of stealing for buying legal products in Russia, and importing their purchases back to the United States... this happens all the time, everyday, and isn't criminal, and its absurd to think so.

The lawsuit isn't criminal anyway, its tort, so grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is a lot of confusion about the laws in other countries&#8230;Americans are not stealing when they order products from Russia.  </p>
<p>And, yes, societies, all of them, decide how to handle intellectual properties, and societies, all of them, balance concerns of the content creator and society in general.   For example, when you write a book in the United STates, eventually it will be come public domain.  It will be a long time after you are dead, but one day, it will be free, for anyone to copy.  Because its nonsensical to keep copyrights forever without expiration&#8230;it doesn&#8217;t provide a benefit to society to lose every work, once it drops out of commericial viability.</p>
<p>By the same token Russia  has a licensing agency, and American companies largely choose not to participate.  They could, but they don&#8217;t.  So then you have AllofMP3, selling music, paying Royalties, and American companies not even applying for Royalties&#8230;because they object to the laws of a sovereign nation.</p>
<p>Than can object, to those laws, to any countries laws&#8230;but there isn&#8217;t any surprises here, about the consequences.</p>
<p>I do hope this gets resolved someday.  But stop accusing americans of stealing for buying legal products in Russia, and importing their purchases back to the United States&#8230; this happens all the time, everyday, and isn&#8217;t criminal, and its absurd to think so.</p>
<p>The lawsuit isn&#8217;t criminal anyway, its tort, so grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Brother 999</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-711370</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Brother 999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lawsuit is only the beginning and one of the essential steps that must be taken for Big Brother to get at what's important......the transaction information.  Here is how I see it (this in regards only to US residents as they rest of the planet is immune......for now.....).  I welcome some correction on this if refinement is in order.  Basically the RIAA needs to establish a successful lawsuit against aomp3.com in order to get the default judgement.  Lets face it, do you really believe anyone from Russia is going to appear in an US court to answer the charges, of course not.  With judgement in hand they can now proceed to step two, that being the attempt to gain access to the cc transactions made to aomp3.com via the clearinghouse (I believe this company is located in a country that will comply with this request, not sure though so please clear this up).  After gaining the transaction data they will be able to file individual lawsuits against tax paying citizens of the US.  Nothing like biting the hand that is feeding you!!!!  While that is occuring a movement will be afoot to block services coming into the US at the core router level as there are not so many a small agency could not easily police them all, ala Denmark.  Of course they do not need permission from the people or Congress as this is allowed via the "well intentioned" Patriot Act.  It's simply a matter of time before people with US IP addresses lose the ability to access many of these services as Big Brother will simply step in........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lawsuit is only the beginning and one of the essential steps that must be taken for Big Brother to get at what&#8217;s important&#8230;&#8230;the transaction information.  Here is how I see it (this in regards only to US residents as they rest of the planet is immune&#8230;&#8230;for now&#8230;..).  I welcome some correction on this if refinement is in order.  Basically the RIAA needs to establish a successful lawsuit against aomp3.com in order to get the default judgement.  Lets face it, do you really believe anyone from Russia is going to appear in an US court to answer the charges, of course not.  With judgement in hand they can now proceed to step two, that being the attempt to gain access to the cc transactions made to aomp3.com via the clearinghouse (I believe this company is located in a country that will comply with this request, not sure though so please clear this up).  After gaining the transaction data they will be able to file individual lawsuits against tax paying citizens of the US.  Nothing like biting the hand that is feeding you!!!!  While that is occuring a movement will be afoot to block services coming into the US at the core router level as there are not so many a small agency could not easily police them all, ala Denmark.  Of course they do not need permission from the people or Congress as this is allowed via the &#8220;well intentioned&#8221; Patriot Act.  It&#8217;s simply a matter of time before people with US IP addresses lose the ability to access many of these services as Big Brother will simply step in&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Behind R4NT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIAA&#8217;s $1.65 trillion lawsuit</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-680710</link>
		<dc:creator>Behind R4NT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIAA&#8217;s $1.65 trillion lawsuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to a couple blogs here and here. The Recording Industry Association of America has filed suit in a New York court against allofmp3.com a Russian non-drm file sharing network. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-658769</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason AllOfMP3 is totaly legal in Russia is the fact that it does pay royalties to the ROMS, and ROMS in turn is responsible to provide that money to the appropriate parties. Thats how you can get tonns and tonns of other digital data (music, movies, apps) on disks and such for $2 or $4 a CD and have a license sticker on it. Yes, when you buy a CD in Russia you get a nice shiny sticker on with a licence mark on it.  So to all those posts that say that AOMP3 is stealing music and selling as their own you'r dead wrong. Do some research. This law suit is caused by two possible reasons that I can observe. 1 - ROMS has not distributed anything to the parties it was supposed to (not likely). 2 - RIAA believes its entiteled to more money then they are getting (obviously they are used to share of $15 per album, not what AOMP3 is charging) and is trying to force AOMP3 to raise their prices (which by obvious reasons they aren't willing to do).  I'm sure this lawsuit didn't come out of nowhere, i'm sure that there we some sorts of negotiations first and when RIAA wasn't happy with the outcome they slapped this bogus case.  Nonetheless, I personally don't see how AllOfMP3 will be going down anytime soon and I'm more then certain that there won't by much Russian government will be able to shot them down unless they change their laws to "suit" US (like thats going to happen any time soon)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason AllOfMP3 is totaly legal in Russia is the fact that it does pay royalties to the ROMS, and ROMS in turn is responsible to provide that money to the appropriate parties. Thats how you can get tonns and tonns of other digital data (music, movies, apps) on disks and such for $2 or $4 a CD and have a license sticker on it. Yes, when you buy a CD in Russia you get a nice shiny sticker on with a licence mark on it.  So to all those posts that say that AOMP3 is stealing music and selling as their own you&#8217;r dead wrong. Do some research. This law suit is caused by two possible reasons that I can observe. 1 - ROMS has not distributed anything to the parties it was supposed to (not likely). 2 - RIAA believes its entiteled to more money then they are getting (obviously they are used to share of $15 per album, not what AOMP3 is charging) and is trying to force AOMP3 to raise their prices (which by obvious reasons they aren&#8217;t willing to do).  I&#8217;m sure this lawsuit didn&#8217;t come out of nowhere, i&#8217;m sure that there we some sorts of negotiations first and when RIAA wasn&#8217;t happy with the outcome they slapped this bogus case.  Nonetheless, I personally don&#8217;t see how AllOfMP3 will be going down anytime soon and I&#8217;m more then certain that there won&#8217;t by much Russian government will be able to shot them down unless they change their laws to &#8220;suit&#8221; US (like thats going to happen any time soon)</p>
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		<title>By: cvos</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-621128</link>
		<dc:creator>cvos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many U.S. companies (such as Accenture) are incorporated offshore so they do not have to comply with US laws and regulations.

If the music companies incorporated in Bermuda, the tax savings realized would probably offset their costs of litigation and music copying.

How will anyone be able to take the RIAA seriously again?  US based Joe music lover will have a great addition to his defense:  "your honor, please see how the RIAA is trying to extort this website..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many U.S. companies (such as Accenture) are incorporated offshore so they do not have to comply with US laws and regulations.</p>
<p>If the music companies incorporated in Bermuda, the tax savings realized would probably offset their costs of litigation and music copying.</p>
<p>How will anyone be able to take the RIAA seriously again?  US based Joe music lover will have a great addition to his defense:  &#8220;your honor, please see how the RIAA is trying to extort this website&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-620777</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is what AllofMP3 is doing illegal in Russia? If not, how will Russia shut them down?</description>
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		<title>By: Debbie Davies</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-617789</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it's ok for U2 to relocate their music publising business from Ireland to the Netherlands to avoid taxes, then it's ok for me to buy their songs from a business based in Russia instead of the UK where I live to avoid paying higher prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s ok for U2 to relocate their music publising business from Ireland to the Netherlands to avoid taxes, then it&#8217;s ok for me to buy their songs from a business based in Russia instead of the UK where I live to avoid paying higher prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-617750</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allofmp3  is in full compliance with Russian legislation, and honestly pays royalties and taxes. 

 $1.65 Trillion just stupid  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allofmp3  is in full compliance with Russian legislation, and honestly pays royalties and taxes. </p>
<p> $1.65 Trillion just stupid  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-616773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TechTalk
Sovereignty. International Law is a misnomer, as each Sovereign country makes its own laws. International pressures and agreements are used to help provide constancy in the laws of various countries.  The problem is that Russia is not a member of the largest agreement that forces IP law, the World Trade Organization. As such (If what I read is true.) if AoMP3 acted within Russian law, then there are only 2 ways to force AoMP3 to do anything. One, by braking Russian Sovereignty (IE War). Two using political pressure force a change in Russian law to be consistent with International IP Law. Either way the RIAA will see not a drop of the money they are demanding. 
You are also mistaken in seeing AoMP3 as an international corporation. Even though the site is access able by anyone with an internet connection because the company has no offices or other places of business it falls unitarily under Russian Law as it pertains to the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TechTalk<br />
Sovereignty. International Law is a misnomer, as each Sovereign country makes its own laws. International pressures and agreements are used to help provide constancy in the laws of various countries.  The problem is that Russia is not a member of the largest agreement that forces IP law, the World Trade Organization. As such (If what I read is true.) if AoMP3 acted within Russian law, then there are only 2 ways to force AoMP3 to do anything. One, by braking Russian Sovereignty (IE War). Two using political pressure force a change in Russian law to be consistent with International IP Law. Either way the RIAA will see not a drop of the money they are demanding.<br />
You are also mistaken in seeing AoMP3 as an international corporation. Even though the site is access able by anyone with an internet connection because the company has no offices or other places of business it falls unitarily under Russian Law as it pertains to the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Serebryakov</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-615344</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Serebryakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me introduce a new perspective to this issue. As an insider, living in Moscow, Russia. This lawsuit is just plain stupid.

First of all, yes, russian legislation allows this kind of activity. And... while is might seem stupid or unfair, there's nothing wrong with the law from a 'fair point of view'. I can provide you with details, if you wish.

There's just one big THING that is terribly wrong. And it's not about AllOfMP3 or any other (and there're dozens) website that is supposedly 'breaking the law'. It's about negotiation.

I couldn't possibly dream of buying legal CDs about 7-8 years ago. They were totally non-existant. But now (here comes the surprise...) there's a plenty of 'light-weight' versions of legal CDs and DVDs that come at a lower price. Most of the russian blockbusters are not pirated. People are negotiating - both sides.

As long as RIAA thinks it is ok to sell music at $15 per disc, they're doomed. This issue is not about Russia or this particular music store - I'm sure there're plenty of other countries that allow this 'piracy'. They should start negotiating, that's the only possible way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me introduce a new perspective to this issue. As an insider, living in Moscow, Russia. This lawsuit is just plain stupid.</p>
<p>First of all, yes, russian legislation allows this kind of activity. And&#8230; while is might seem stupid or unfair, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with the law from a &#8216;fair point of view&#8217;. I can provide you with details, if you wish.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just one big THING that is terribly wrong. And it&#8217;s not about AllOfMP3 or any other (and there&#8217;re dozens) website that is supposedly &#8216;breaking the law&#8217;. It&#8217;s about negotiation.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t possibly dream of buying legal CDs about 7-8 years ago. They were totally non-existant. But now (here comes the surprise&#8230;) there&#8217;s a plenty of &#8216;light-weight&#8217; versions of legal CDs and DVDs that come at a lower price. Most of the russian blockbusters are not pirated. People are negotiating - both sides.</p>
<p>As long as RIAA thinks it is ok to sell music at $15 per disc, they&#8217;re doomed. This issue is not about Russia or this particular music store - I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;re plenty of other countries that allow this &#8216;piracy&#8217;. They should start negotiating, that&#8217;s the only possible way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-615333</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with 26 - saying DRM should is useless is just plain stupid. Mike how about you provide advertising space for free? Not too sure you would be happy if all your profits were pulled from out in front of you like free music would do to muso's.

And saying that "record companies take all the profits" - yes they do, and its only the non-music stars that are complaining.  The rise of an artist from a nobody to a star is a huge risk - its like a VC firm - they take a risk on a person (company) and expect a big return out of them. Making somebody a star costs the Record companies shitloads upon shitloads of dollars - how can you say VC's are any different?

They take X% of company and expect a massive return. Maybe Sequoia were bastards to Youtube as they ended up with 400+ mil. How the logic any fking different?

Its not - record companies want to make profits like everyone else. The music stars dont give a shit because they earning a crapload anyways, get all the sex they want and get to play music.

So stfu everyone who says "music labels are taking all the money"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with 26 - saying DRM should is useless is just plain stupid. Mike how about you provide advertising space for free? Not too sure you would be happy if all your profits were pulled from out in front of you like free music would do to muso&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And saying that &#8220;record companies take all the profits&#8221; - yes they do, and its only the non-music stars that are complaining.  The rise of an artist from a nobody to a star is a huge risk - its like a VC firm - they take a risk on a person (company) and expect a big return out of them. Making somebody a star costs the Record companies shitloads upon shitloads of dollars - how can you say VC&#8217;s are any different?</p>
<p>They take X% of company and expect a massive return. Maybe Sequoia were bastards to Youtube as they ended up with 400+ mil. How the logic any fking different?</p>
<p>Its not - record companies want to make profits like everyone else. The music stars dont give a shit because they earning a crapload anyways, get all the sex they want and get to play music.</p>
<p>So stfu everyone who says &#8220;music labels are taking all the money&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jesper Rønn-Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-615279</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper Rønn-Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? Screenshot missing above. Here's link to screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper/336756697/

(if that fails, my name points to the Flickr photo :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? Screenshot missing above. Here&#8217;s link to screenshot: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper/336756697/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper/336756697/</a></p>
<p>(if that fails, my name points to the Flickr photo <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jesper Rønn-Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-615263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper Rønn-Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Access is completely blocked from Denmark, Europe. The screenshot here is from the biggest ISP in Denmark (TDC) and refers to a ruling in the court of Copenhagen against another ISP.

&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper/336756697/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Any other countries that have also blocked access based on local court rulings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Access is completely blocked from Denmark, Europe. The screenshot here is from the biggest ISP in Denmark (TDC) and refers to a ruling in the court of Copenhagen against another ISP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper/336756697/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.flickr.com');"></a></p>
<p>Any other countries that have also blocked access based on local court rulings?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-615097</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;I like Peter Jenner’s approach with a 
&#62;blanket license - granted, its rather socialistic
&#62;but it’s the only way everyone wins…

Being taxed by the majors for having a computer? No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I like Peter Jenner’s approach with a<br />
&gt;blanket license - granted, its rather socialistic<br />
&gt;but it’s the only way everyone wins…</p>
<p>Being taxed by the majors for having a computer? No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Total Stranger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-614609</link>
		<dc:creator>Total Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world is not perfect. Every side of the conflict has its own truth. Sometimes there more then two sides of the conflict such as authors, media, studios, national and international laws,  the consumer and many more. DRM in the way it exists right now is a compromise among countless parties. However there is one thing that can shatter a compromise; and this is web 2.0. New environment dictates new equilibrium. This is pretty much similar to physics low.  What it means, that DRM in the way it is now, is already dead. To work out type of DRM requires a willingness of all parties to reassess the situation. The ridiculous law suit from RIAA is an example of that one side is still leaves in the history and doesn’t want to change anything.
Is it bad or good, doesn’t really matter. 


Cheers and Happy New Year!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world is not perfect. Every side of the conflict has its own truth. Sometimes there more then two sides of the conflict such as authors, media, studios, national and international laws,  the consumer and many more. DRM in the way it exists right now is a compromise among countless parties. However there is one thing that can shatter a compromise; and this is web 2.0. New environment dictates new equilibrium. This is pretty much similar to physics low.  What it means, that DRM in the way it is now, is already dead. To work out type of DRM requires a willingness of all parties to reassess the situation. The ridiculous law suit from RIAA is an example of that one side is still leaves in the history and doesn’t want to change anything.<br />
Is it bad or good, doesn’t really matter. </p>
<p>Cheers and Happy New Year!!</p>
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		<title>By: Yakito</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/27/allofmp3-responds-to-riaas-165-trillion-lawsuit/#comment-614331</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My country owes less money than AllOfMp3, that number is just stupid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My country owes less money than AllOfMp3, that number is just stupid</p>
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