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	<title>Comments on: Startup Cries Foul at Google&#8217;s New Radio Ads Product</title>
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		<title>By: Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads &#124; Tekjuice.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-1403263</link>
		<dc:creator>Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads &#124; Tekjuice.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are getting reports from advertisers that Google Audio Ads have been added as an option to their Adwords accounts, although we can&#8217;t confirm yet that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads : Forecast-Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-1403262</link>
		<dc:creator>Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads : Forecast-Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are getting reports from advertisers that Google Audio Ads have been added as an option to their Adwords accounts, although we can&#8217;t confirm yet that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-1403208</link>
		<dc:creator>Soft Launch For Google Audio Ads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are getting reports from advertisers that Google Audio Ads have been added as an option to their Adwords accounts, although we can&#8217;t confirm yet that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ShadowzBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Testing TV Ads in California</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-1298219</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadowzBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Testing TV Ads in California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no information on how much Google is planning on assisting advertisers in creating the ads. Their audio advertising product, also still in testing, contains basic creation tools and access to voice [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no information on how much Google is planning on assisting advertisers in creating the ads. Their audio advertising product, also still in testing, contains basic creation tools and access to voice [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Audio Ads Snag</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-681899</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Audio Ads Snag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BIGjohnSMALL</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-625953</link>
		<dc:creator>BIGjohnSMALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been writing and recording voice ads for websites for a few years. This is NOT new, it's just new to Google. They're ALSO trying to copy something that www.Bid4Spots.com has already done quite well.

BIG John Small
www.GreatRadioAds.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been writing and recording voice ads for websites for a few years. This is NOT new, it&#8217;s just new to Google. They&#8217;re ALSO trying to copy something that <a href="http://www.Bid4Spots.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Bid4Spots.com</a> has already done quite well.</p>
<p>BIG John Small<br />
<a href="http://www.GreatRadioAds.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.GreatRadioAds.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Google Audio Ads Snag at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-556927</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Audio Ads Snag at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Audio Ads Snag</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-556854</link>
		<dc:creator>Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Audio Ads Snag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We first wrote about Google Audio ads a week ago when competitor Voices.com was saying flat out that Google copied part of their product. Google plans to handle audio ads for customers from soup to nuts: assistance with ad creation, the ability to bid on radio spots, and target ads by geography, station type, listener demographics and time of day. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-539707</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody ever tried voice ads? Will there be some voice adsense soon? I wish I could use voice adsense on my site soon.

-Mike
Tech Tutorials: http://www.hotcoding.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody ever tried voice ads? Will there be some voice adsense soon? I wish I could use voice adsense on my site soon.</p>
<p>-Mike<br />
Tech Tutorials: <a href="http://www.hotcoding.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotcoding.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: AhmedF</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-524139</link>
		<dc:creator>AhmedF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never seen so much whining about evil and what not :)

Its called 'research' folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never seen so much whining about evil and what not <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Its called &#8216;research&#8217; folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Astor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-523689</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Astor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One important point that is missed by Google:


It takes a lot more than copywriting and voiceover to create a radio ad that works great. 

It isn't about sounding pretty. It's about getting results. Isn't that the point of accountable advertising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One important point that is missed by Google:</p>
<p>It takes a lot more than copywriting and voiceover to create a radio ad that works great. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t about sounding pretty. It&#8217;s about getting results. Isn&#8217;t that the point of accountable advertising?</p>
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		<title>By: n.sputnik &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Voices.com mad about Google&#8217;s upcoming radio ads service</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-519995</link>
		<dc:creator>n.sputnik &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Voices.com mad about Google&#8217;s upcoming radio ads service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to TechCrunch, a voice talent service called Voices.com is mad because Google&#8217;s new audio service seems to be a competitor. Why not just partner with them? There could be services that the two companies can provide to each other. Being in audio production myself, I am hoping that I can get some work from local business wanting a radio spot using the new Google service or maybe even Voices.com.  Technorati Tags: radio, Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to TechCrunch, a voice talent service called Voices.com is mad because Google&#8217;s new audio service seems to be a competitor. Why not just partner with them? There could be services that the two companies can provide to each other. Being in audio production myself, I am hoping that I can get some work from local business wanting a radio spot using the new Google service or maybe even Voices.com.  Technorati Tags: radio, Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-519756</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could do something about it if he has a patent...Isn't it also possible that Google was just checking out the competition? Not a bad idea in my opinion - not to steal ideas, just to know what you are up against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could do something about it if he has a patent&#8230;Isn&#8217;t it also possible that Google was just checking out the competition? Not a bad idea in my opinion - not to steal ideas, just to know what you are up against.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Dynice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-519284</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Dynice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Voices.com I say: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Voices.com I say: If you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the writers have not heard of either Voice123 or Bid4Spots, both in business around the same time as dMarc or earlier. It's called business. Welcome to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the writers have not heard of either Voice123 or Bid4Spots, both in business around the same time as dMarc or earlier. It&#8217;s called business. Welcome to America.</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; SOMA&#8217;s return, Google&#8217;s smokescreen and copying, iTunes flatlining?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518650</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; SOMA&#8217;s return, Google&#8217;s smokescreen and copying, iTunes flatlining?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Although perhaps Google isn&#8217;t as innovative as you may think &#8212; Yahoo&#8217;s Jeremy Zawodny says Google copied its IE7 download feature, and has pretty good evidence. Google has since changed the look, but we&#8217;re wondering if someone&#8217;s head is rolling as a result. And the radio program looks similar to Voice.com&#8217;s. Suppose there&#8217;s a chance Google merely didn&#8217;t see it, though that&#8217;s unlikely because Google&#8217;s radio product managers surely would have soured the market.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Although perhaps Google isn&#8217;t as innovative as you may think &#8212; Yahoo&#8217;s Jeremy Zawodny says Google copied its IE7 download feature, and has pretty good evidence. Google has since changed the look, but we&#8217;re wondering if someone&#8217;s head is rolling as a result. And the radio program looks similar to Voice.com&#8217;s. Suppose there&#8217;s a chance Google merely didn&#8217;t see it, though that&#8217;s unlikely because Google&#8217;s radio product managers surely would have soured the market.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Philip Green</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518546</link>
		<dc:creator>John Philip Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine that if its a large enough market for Google to go after, then its probably a large enough market for a couple players.

Voices.com has a great domain, solid tech, and from the looks of it a fairly large user base.

Also, let's all keep our pants on until Google releases whatever it is they are doing in this space.

I wish David &#38; Voices.com lots of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine that if its a large enough market for Google to go after, then its probably a large enough market for a couple players.</p>
<p>Voices.com has a great domain, solid tech, and from the looks of it a fairly large user base.</p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s all keep our pants on until Google releases whatever it is they are doing in this space.</p>
<p>I wish David &amp; Voices.com lots of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518502</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally in the "suck it up" crowd. Your barrier has to be larger community, lead in the market place, etc... if you don't have it, you don't have it. You can't blame Google for building an add-on service that works with where they are going with radio. And... We use another matching site for work called Voice123, and sites such as Guru.com have been around a long time, matching talent with work. So, not a leg to stand on here, me thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally in the &#8220;suck it up&#8221; crowd. Your barrier has to be larger community, lead in the market place, etc&#8230; if you don&#8217;t have it, you don&#8217;t have it. You can&#8217;t blame Google for building an add-on service that works with where they are going with radio. And&#8230; We use another matching site for work called Voice123, and sites such as Guru.com have been around a long time, matching talent with work. So, not a leg to stand on here, me thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Morsa</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518178</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Morsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...a final thought...

How many airline tickets would we buy from Priceline...once we realized that we were paying more than what the airlines themselves were charging for the same exact flights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;a final thought&#8230;</p>
<p>How many airline tickets would we buy from Priceline&#8230;once we realized that we were paying more than what the airlines themselves were charging for the same exact flights?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Morsa</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518148</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Morsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This model is akin to Google's ongoing experiments with auctioning ads in magazines, newspapers, and other print media; and has the same set of little-recognized or appreciated drawbacks . . .

Let's ask ourselves: Once advertisers have become comfortable with using radio--thanks to Google's easing of the path to its implementation via this new platform--how long will they continue to pay more for these radio ads than they would be paying if they placed the ads themselves?

Unlike an ad system like paid search; which due to its complex structure (among other barrier-to-entry factors) obviously can not be replicated by individual advertisers; placing radio ads is not that difficult. Especially once you've done it a few times.

The bottom-line question then is this: How long will companies pay a 25-100% or more premium (due to auction competition) over radio stations' everyday ad rates for the sake of having Google be their middleman--even with them supplying the talent and writing the ad (which two services radio stations already provide for free)?

Fact is, companies like Voices, Bid4Spots (which is a much more attractive approach for advertisers than Google's platform), and the 100's of other value providers within this marketplace have little to worry from Google's new offering.

Any advertisers spending more than $500/month on radio spots--as will be the case with the Google print program--will never embrace such a system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This model is akin to Google&#8217;s ongoing experiments with auctioning ads in magazines, newspapers, and other print media; and has the same set of little-recognized or appreciated drawbacks . . .</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s ask ourselves: Once advertisers have become comfortable with using radio&#8211;thanks to Google&#8217;s easing of the path to its implementation via this new platform&#8211;how long will they continue to pay more for these radio ads than they would be paying if they placed the ads themselves?</p>
<p>Unlike an ad system like paid search; which due to its complex structure (among other barrier-to-entry factors) obviously can not be replicated by individual advertisers; placing radio ads is not that difficult. Especially once you&#8217;ve done it a few times.</p>
<p>The bottom-line question then is this: How long will companies pay a 25-100% or more premium (due to auction competition) over radio stations&#8217; everyday ad rates for the sake of having Google be their middleman&#8211;even with them supplying the talent and writing the ad (which two services radio stations already provide for free)?</p>
<p>Fact is, companies like Voices, Bid4Spots (which is a much more attractive approach for advertisers than Google&#8217;s platform), and the 100&#8217;s of other value providers within this marketplace have little to worry from Google&#8217;s new offering.</p>
<p>Any advertisers spending more than $500/month on radio spots&#8211;as will be the case with the Google print program&#8211;will never embrace such a system.</p>
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		<title>By: kokorozashi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-518141</link>
		<dc:creator>kokorozashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is a publicly traded corporation. The legally mandated top priority of a publicly traded corporation is to deliver value to its shareholders. Google culture began a slide into the Wall Street mainstream the day it went public. Please, people, grow up a little bit and stop discussing this "evil" nonsense. It's just marketing, like "the real thing" or "I'm lovin' it" or "just do it." (rolls eyes) The questions you should really be asking yourself are more like: "How long will Google continue to produce delightful products?" or "How long can Google remain a fulfilling place to work?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is a publicly traded corporation. The legally mandated top priority of a publicly traded corporation is to deliver value to its shareholders. Google culture began a slide into the Wall Street mainstream the day it went public. Please, people, grow up a little bit and stop discussing this &#8220;evil&#8221; nonsense. It&#8217;s just marketing, like &#8220;the real thing&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m lovin&#8217; it&#8221; or &#8220;just do it.&#8221; (rolls eyes) The questions you should really be asking yourself are more like: &#8220;How long will Google continue to produce delightful products?&#8221; or &#8220;How long can Google remain a fulfilling place to work?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-517887</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the Voices guy feeling paranoid looking at all those hits from Google. But, it's silly to say Google's stealing anything. It wouldn't make much sense to put together a radio ad-sales system without providing a way to get copy produced in the package. How many ways are there to do that? Google is smashing the old advertising system and creating new business for radio. A startup's major risk is that some bigger company will add its product to its operating system. Is this evil? I say, when it was MS, and the operating system was closed, yes it was. But when it's Google competing in the Internet marketplace, no. It may not be "fair," but it isn't evil. I think some segments of the geek tribe are way too quick to slap on the Evil sticker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the Voices guy feeling paranoid looking at all those hits from Google. But, it&#8217;s silly to say Google&#8217;s stealing anything. It wouldn&#8217;t make much sense to put together a radio ad-sales system without providing a way to get copy produced in the package. How many ways are there to do that? Google is smashing the old advertising system and creating new business for radio. A startup&#8217;s major risk is that some bigger company will add its product to its operating system. Is this evil? I say, when it was MS, and the operating system was closed, yes it was. But when it&#8217;s Google competing in the Internet marketplace, no. It may not be &#8220;fair,&#8221; but it isn&#8217;t evil. I think some segments of the geek tribe are way too quick to slap on the Evil sticker.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-517673</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The core product was developed by a company that Google acquired a year ago called dMarc..."

I think there are really two technologies/offerings at play here 1) the audio ad targeting system and 2) matching advertiser demand to voice talent.  The first was in fact acquired thru dMarc, but as far as I can tell, the second piece was not part of the dMarc stack, and given the internet traffic, it could certainly indicate some 'imitation' was happening.

The reality is that there's not much Voices.com can do about this.  Just like the small ISV's who were put out of business by Microsoft, this fate will befall many Internet companies at the hands of Google.  Sure, Google could have integrated with Voices, or even created an open API to plug into any contractor marketplace, but in that case it's more difficult to ensure a simple seamless user experience.  Yes, I realize this is similar to the argument MSFT used as it added 'features' to Windows, and killed off the small ISV; however, no one can argue that it's easier to ensure a better user experience if you own the whole process.

Besides, Google is developing is a two sided market, creating the demand with the audio ad service and linking that demand up with the talent to create the ads.  Voices.com only provides one part of this; is it Google's fault for wanting to keep both sides of this market, especially if generating the demand for these services is a bigger problem than creating a clearing house to match up talent with said demand (does anyone even know how many contractor marketplaces are there on the web today).

I'm looking forward to Google making these audio ads available for any publisher of a podcast; do you honestly think they purchased this ad platform just for radio?  When was the last time a radio asked you for your age, gender or zip code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The core product was developed by a company that Google acquired a year ago called dMarc&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think there are really two technologies/offerings at play here 1) the audio ad targeting system and 2) matching advertiser demand to voice talent.  The first was in fact acquired thru dMarc, but as far as I can tell, the second piece was not part of the dMarc stack, and given the internet traffic, it could certainly indicate some &#8216;imitation&#8217; was happening.</p>
<p>The reality is that there&#8217;s not much Voices.com can do about this.  Just like the small ISV&#8217;s who were put out of business by Microsoft, this fate will befall many Internet companies at the hands of Google.  Sure, Google could have integrated with Voices, or even created an open API to plug into any contractor marketplace, but in that case it&#8217;s more difficult to ensure a simple seamless user experience.  Yes, I realize this is similar to the argument MSFT used as it added &#8216;features&#8217; to Windows, and killed off the small ISV; however, no one can argue that it&#8217;s easier to ensure a better user experience if you own the whole process.</p>
<p>Besides, Google is developing is a two sided market, creating the demand with the audio ad service and linking that demand up with the talent to create the ads.  Voices.com only provides one part of this; is it Google&#8217;s fault for wanting to keep both sides of this market, especially if generating the demand for these services is a bigger problem than creating a clearing house to match up talent with said demand (does anyone even know how many contractor marketplaces are there on the web today).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to Google making these audio ads available for any publisher of a podcast; do you honestly think they purchased this ad platform just for radio?  When was the last time a radio asked you for your age, gender or zip code?</p>
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		<title>By: Patent-Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-517279</link>
		<dc:creator>Patent-Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting patent worth looking into relevant for this arena is US Patent 7,085,732 that discusses:

"An online trading system for conducting an advertiser initiated auction for the placement of an advertisement in a media, such as printed publications, billboards, radio, television, videos, network portals, web pages, and the like."  The provisional was filed in 2001.

The inventor looks to have a related business - a bit of research and leg work would likely pay off.

http://www.patentmonkey.com/PM/PatentID/7085732.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting patent worth looking into relevant for this arena is US Patent 7,085,732 that discusses:</p>
<p>&#8220;An online trading system for conducting an advertiser initiated auction for the placement of an advertisement in a media, such as printed publications, billboards, radio, television, videos, network portals, web pages, and the like.&#8221;  The provisional was filed in 2001.</p>
<p>The inventor looks to have a related business - a bit of research and leg work would likely pay off.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patentmonkey.com/PM/PatentID/7085732.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.patentmonkey.com/PM.....85732.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/12/11/startup-cries-foul-at-googles-new-radio-ads-product/#comment-517200</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's been a lot of great advice in the comments and I thank you all for it.

Truth is, we've been working harder than ever to build value for our stakeholders and establish our foothold in this market.  Simply put, Google's move has only turned up the heat a few notches.

Yes, we're protective of our IP and will continue to do more to ensure that our business remains rock solid.

From our point-of-view, we believe that the awareness that Google will bring to the industry will be a win for our company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of great advice in the comments and I thank you all for it.</p>
<p>Truth is, we&#8217;ve been working harder than ever to build value for our stakeholders and establish our foothold in this market.  Simply put, Google&#8217;s move has only turned up the heat a few notches.</p>
<p>Yes, we&#8217;re protective of our IP and will continue to do more to ensure that our business remains rock solid.</p>
<p>From our point-of-view, we believe that the awareness that Google will bring to the industry will be a win for our company.</p>
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