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	<title>Comments on: Can eyeOS Succeed Where Desktop.com Failed?</title>
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		<title>By: Defining Web 2.0 &#171; Information Librarian: Health Sciences @ UJ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-2708232</link>
		<dc:creator>Defining Web 2.0 &#171; Information Librarian: Health Sciences @ UJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Can eyeOS Succeed Where Desktop.com Failed?&#8221;. www.techcrunch.com. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Can eyeOS Succeed Where Desktop.com Failed?&#8221;. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com'>http://www.techcrunch.com</a>. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/'>http://www.tech...for-the-masses/</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AjaxWindows, Why?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-1428498</link>
		<dc:creator>AjaxWindows, Why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been several other takes on bringing desktop functionality to the web. EyeOS takes an open source approach, YouOS is in alpha, and DesktopTwo is aiming at enterprise clients. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been several other takes on bringing desktop functionality to the web. EyeOS takes an open source approach, YouOS is in alpha, and DesktopTwo is aiming at enterprise clients. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carlyle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-659925</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I walk into an internet cafe or public library ... just me, no laptop, luggage, pda ... find a spare workstation/browser, and I have my application(s) desktop, with all of my personal, work, life data available.

Or at a friends house, or at a customer site -- hop on his workstation, and have *my* environment up &amp; running, to do my apps with my data at his site.

Biggest challenge: establish trust in that server farm that has all of my life on it, like my pda currently has.    

www.gotomypc.com --- watch out, this is a challenge to some of your business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I walk into an internet cafe or public library &#8230; just me, no laptop, luggage, pda &#8230; find a spare workstation/browser, and I have my application(s) desktop, with all of my personal, work, life data available.</p>
<p>Or at a friends house, or at a customer site &#8212; hop on his workstation, and have *my* environment up &amp; running, to do my apps with my data at his site.</p>
<p>Biggest challenge: establish trust in that server farm that has all of my life on it, like my pda currently has.    </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gotomypc.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.gotomypc.com'>http://www.gotomypc.com</a> &#8212; watch out, this is a challenge to some of your business.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Mestrallet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-577887</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Mestrallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have also a look at eXo Enterprise WebOS, it is a new comer in that space but really worth the look</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have also a look at eXo Enterprise WebOS, it is a new comer in that space but really worth the look</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijeet Kunder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-494105</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhijeet Kunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly, Google will either buy eyeOS out if they really are worth the hoolah. If they don&#039;t, they probably are working on something which will kick ass anyways (either that or eyeOS is not really a stand out)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly, Google will either buy eyeOS out if they really are worth the hoolah. If they don&#8217;t, they probably are working on something which will kick ass anyways (either that or eyeOS is not really a stand out)</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-483927</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Back in the Day&quot; a 90lb screen, 8lb keyboard and a couple of other (maybe) devices sat on the desk. They might have DEC, IBM, Telex.... or sum udder logo upon them. We&#039;ll refer to these devices as dumb terminals for lack of a better word. We had mainframes to talk to or control.....then pc&#039;s, then LINKAGE, now &#039;they&#039; (whomever the hell that group is) want me to go back to limited functionality, full trackablility and on able to see what they choose.......i think NOT!!!!!!!!! 

.....engage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Back in the Day&#8221; a 90lb screen, 8lb keyboard and a couple of other (maybe) devices sat on the desk. They might have DEC, IBM, Telex&#8230;. or sum udder logo upon them. We&#8217;ll refer to these devices as dumb terminals for lack of a better word. We had mainframes to talk to or control&#8230;..then pc&#8217;s, then LINKAGE, now &#8216;they&#8217; (whomever the hell that group is) want me to go back to limited functionality, full trackablility and on able to see what they choose&#8230;&#8230;.i think NOT!!!!!!!!! </p>
<p>&#8230;..engage</p>
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		<title>By: Rogerio</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-460055</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogerio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Craythur is more fast. I like.....(http://www.craythur.com)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Craythur is more fast. I like&#8230;..(http://www.craythur.com)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KingKong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-459778</link>
		<dc:creator>KingKong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... WebOS is still a term in need of a true product with which to define it.  eyeOS is interesting but b/c it requires a downloadable client, it&#039;s not fully virtual and therefore thinking of it as a web app is a misapplication of the term (no pun intended).  Businesses insist on local clients only because they are inexplicably reluctant to cross the threshold onto the Web despite the fact that everyone knows (and the statistics verify) that hosted solutions are in fact more secure than local solutions, where viruses/trojan horses proliferate.

That said, if you want to refer to these WebOS&#039;s or Web desktops, the best that I&#039;ve seen (and I&#039;ve tried them all) is Desktoptwo (http://desktoptwo.com), which comes closest to replicating the desktop in terms of functionality and look (Sapotek, the company behind Desktoptwo, calls it a web-based desktop, and not a WebOS, which is smart, imho).

In the end, none of these services is a true OS,as in multi-layered... yet.  But, I do believe all of these efforts are worthwhile and that a real WebOS will emerge soon enough, perhaps due to the combined efforts of all these companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; WebOS is still a term in need of a true product with which to define it.  eyeOS is interesting but b/c it requires a downloadable client, it&#8217;s not fully virtual and therefore thinking of it as a web app is a misapplication of the term (no pun intended).  Businesses insist on local clients only because they are inexplicably reluctant to cross the threshold onto the Web despite the fact that everyone knows (and the statistics verify) that hosted solutions are in fact more secure than local solutions, where viruses/trojan horses proliferate.</p>
<p>That said, if you want to refer to these WebOS&#8217;s or Web desktops, the best that I&#8217;ve seen (and I&#8217;ve tried them all) is Desktoptwo (<a href="http://desktoptwo.com)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://desktoptwo.com'>http://desktoptwo.com</a>), which comes closest to replicating the desktop in terms of functionality and look (Sapotek, the company behind Desktoptwo, calls it a web-based desktop, and not a WebOS, which is smart, imho).</p>
<p>In the end, none of these services is a true OS,as in multi-layered&#8230; yet.  But, I do believe all of these efforts are worthwhile and that a real WebOS will emerge soon enough, perhaps due to the combined efforts of all these companies.</p>
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		<title>By: gladys</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-455347</link>
		<dc:creator>gladys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i still prefer to use seperate file storage services such as
www.orbitfiles.com
www.box.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i still prefer to use seperate file storage services such as<br />
<a href="http://www.orbitfiles.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.orbitfiles.com'>http://www.orbitfiles.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.box.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.box.net'>http://www.box.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Antonio</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-455257</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craythur.com is very easy and future of is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craythur.com is very easy and future of is.</p>
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		<title>By: seduce any woman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-454038</link>
		<dc:creator>seduce any woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me looks great :)
If you dont have notebook its a cool solution :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me looks great <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
If you dont have notebook its a cool solution <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Cefalu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-454028</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Cefalu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, while it has a nice interface design to the overall theme, the fact it is php based is unnerving. For instance, changing of the desktop&#039;s background image to the alternately available one does not function properly. Whilst this may be in testing stages, opening a whole bunch of DHTML Content Overlays from Dynamic Drive does not constitute a Web Based Desktop. Even Windows has more interaction than this thing.... And that is bad my friends, BAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, while it has a nice interface design to the overall theme, the fact it is php based is unnerving. For instance, changing of the desktop&#8217;s background image to the alternately available one does not function properly. Whilst this may be in testing stages, opening a whole bunch of DHTML Content Overlays from Dynamic Drive does not constitute a Web Based Desktop. Even Windows has more interaction than this thing&#8230;. And that is bad my friends, BAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-454021</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think WebOs`s have to evolve to a solid structural tool, with integrated security enhanced applications, but we will see a lot of this endeavors in the next Web 2.0 phase..., by the way, eyeOs is really cool so far i think, but we have to wait for the critical mass users before a trully judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think WebOs`s have to evolve to a solid structural tool, with integrated security enhanced applications, but we will see a lot of this endeavors in the next Web 2.0 phase&#8230;, by the way, eyeOs is really cool so far i think, but we have to wait for the critical mass users before a trully judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Can web OS&#8217;s be the OS&#8217;s of the future? &#171; Shawn Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-453987</link>
		<dc:creator>Can web OS&#8217;s be the OS&#8217;s of the future? &#171; Shawn Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A great one would be eyeOS. I&#8217;ve used eyeOS on occasion and between the ability to write .eye applications to upload and use (a la AIM Pages Style) it&#8217;s also getting some good attention. ORCA (I have not used but seems to take the same approach however with a more familiar style. However you look at it, Mike Arrington over at Techcrunch says that they&#8217;re running with $1,300 in donations so I&#8217;m sure we could do a little better with it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A great one would be eyeOS. I&#8217;ve used eyeOS on occasion and between the ability to write .eye applications to upload and use (a la AIM Pages Style) it&#8217;s also getting some good attention. ORCA (I have not used but seems to take the same approach however with a more familiar style. However you look at it, Mike Arrington over at Techcrunch says that they&#8217;re running with $1,300 in donations so I&#8217;m sure we could do a little better with it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-452383</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool. a webos built on the same technology as pandora ought to be nifty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool. a webos built on the same technology as pandora ought to be nifty.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-452376</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyeOS is a pretty nice service. I am thankful they are open source. A webOS, unless it is supported by a major backer like Microsoft, will be unable to take a good market share b/c of user hesitancy to lock in to a possibly dying company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyeOS is a pretty nice service. I am thankful they are open source. A webOS, unless it is supported by a major backer like Microsoft, will be unable to take a good market share b/c of user hesitancy to lock in to a possibly dying company.</p>
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		<title>By: hombrelobo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-452374</link>
		<dc:creator>hombrelobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You stay in bed then ....  :)

The fact that there is a debate and that thousands of people try the system says that there is something there. Not for purists, but then, we can always go back to CPM, the OS for the real macho ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You stay in bed then &#8230;.  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The fact that there is a debate and that thousands of people try the system says that there is something there. Not for purists, but then, we can always go back to CPM, the OS for the real macho &#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony Sung</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-452310</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Sung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;eyeOS ... is missing a spreadsheet and presentation program, among other things that would make it a proper OS.&quot;

Would it be possible for them to integrate with 3rd party apps like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.editgrid.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EditGrid&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thumbstacks.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thumbstacks&lt;/a&gt; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;eyeOS &#8230; is missing a spreadsheet and presentation program, among other things that would make it a proper OS.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would it be possible for them to integrate with 3rd party apps like <a href="http://www.editgrid.com" rel="nofollow">EditGrid</a> and <a href="http://www.thumbstacks.com" rel="nofollow">Thumbstacks</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Denver</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-452197</link>
		<dc:creator>Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dream, that one day, all software, even the operation system are open sourced and free....but where the profit come from? The advertisement? Hence, It&#039;s just a dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dream, that one day, all software, even the operation system are open sourced and free&#8230;.but where the profit come from? The advertisement? Hence, It&#8217;s just a dream.</p>
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		<title>By: ginchy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451670</link>
		<dc:creator>ginchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Essentially, eyeOS is like Goowy&quot;

Well OK then.

In a related story, the NASDAQ dropped like fifty points today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Essentially, eyeOS is like Goowy&#8221;</p>
<p>Well OK then.</p>
<p>In a related story, the NASDAQ dropped like fifty points today.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hicks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451543</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on your first TechCrunch post and welcome abroad! Look forward to reading more posts like this (and good to see you&#039;re already starting a debate on what should be called an OS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on your first TechCrunch post and welcome abroad! Look forward to reading more posts like this (and good to see you&#8217;re already starting a debate on what should be called an OS).</p>
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		<title>By: Publictivity.com Blog &#187; The Holy Grail- &#8220;Online OS&#8217;&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451415</link>
		<dc:creator>Publictivity.com Blog &#187; The Holy Grail- &#8220;Online OS&#8217;&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Holy Grail- &#8220;Online OS&#8217;&#8221;  27 11 2006    Everyone has their holy grail in technology. For some it&#8217;s the semantic web, for some it&#8217;s online services (Jeff Bezos), and for some it&#8217;s singularity. If you were to ask me, what is my Holy Grail or something I&#8217;d like to see or be a part of, it&#8217;s the evolution of the &#8220;Online Operating System&#8221;. Now, everyone thinks the online operating system is going to replace Windows, OS X,etc. I think that&#8217;s nonsense. I think the online operating system is going to be a platform that extends the functionality of desktop software out towards the web. Simply put, the online OS&#8217; will be extensions to desktop OS&#8217;. So how do I see the &#8220;Online OS&#8221; changing computing and the factors involved?  Desktop Apps and Existing OS&#8217; Become Much More Lightweight I truly believe operating systems will become increasingly lightweight installs. We&#8217;re talking Linux sized and able to fit on a small thumb drive. Why? There&#8217;s no need for the bloated code. The basic and needed stuff will be placed on the desktop operating system. The important and variable data will be stored online. Think of it this way, a lightweight version of windows with the browser being the basis for most applications. The specifics to the application to cut down on bandwidth will be stored on the user&#8217;s computer, similar to a Firefox plugin.  Bandwidth Reaches New Heights at An Affordable Price Believe it or not, some people are still on dialup. I think we&#8217;re going to see two really important shifts, that are already there in some areas: Really Fast and Affordable High Speed, along with Wireless internet available everywhere. For this to all work, internet needs to be very fast. We&#8217;re talking Fios or Cablevision Enhanced speed. We&#8217;re almost there, but it&#8217;s going to take some time.  Software Has New Pricing Structures Right now, software is based upon a flat fee. Pay x dollars to get Flash,etc. I think we&#8217;ll see two new pricing methods become popular with an online OS: Advertising based and Subscription. This could totally disrupt the software industry. Some software would work different ways. A lot would stay with the flat fee model.  Niche problems are solved rather than larger problems Developers will be able to make the software they need a lot quicker. I believe that an online OS will let anyone build plugins using a popular language like PHP, with MySQL tables available. The basic hosting is now free, there are no infrastructure costs, and its using a popular language. Think about it: any company can hire a team of developers overnight to build any application they need with no barriers to entry.    Update cycle of software is cut in at least half Software can be updated in a one update to many model. The packaging and processing part is also cut down. Beta testing is also easier to do. Think about how fast consumer app companies update their apps with features. Imagine business and real apps doing that. Wow.  Different Models?- Adobe/Macromedia with Apollo, Systems Like EyeOS (Check out TechCrunch&#8217;s Recent Review of EyeOS for some great background),etc. There&#8217;s a few different models out there. There&#8217;s Apex by Macromedia, EyeOs, YouOS. I think these are the first small small baby steps. Honest truth is, something is going to happen and be done right. It might be done by a big company ala Microsoft. I can see that happening after Vista. The way they deliver OS&#8217; will need to change. A small and young startup might come along as well. History repeats itself folks.  Software Companies Make Money Almost Like AppXChange or Video Game Companies Okay, I believe AppXchange works, where salesforce takes a cut from all apps sold. So we can see sofware companies selling the base &#8220;Online OS&#8221;, and then taking a small cut from applications developed. Honestly, its orgasmic the amount of Applications that would be made from a development community. The same way anyone can make money online from selling things on eBay, a developer could do with apps. Video game companies, i also believe make money off of each game sold. They build the system/platform and also make money from the games developed.  So, I&#8217;m not an expert on the technical things by any means. I dont have all the right answers, maybe even none at all. This is wishful thinking and what &#8220;I&#8221; think would work. I&#8217;d love to hear comments or talk to people who are/ want to build something like this. Software and the Web, is just beginning. Some of the things may be 180 degrees off.  If I&#8217;m wrong, rip me apart, so I get it right. Yeah, I&#8217;m about that thing called l-e-a-r-n-i-n-g Can you say? Hello&#8230; New World. Technorati Tags:  software,  online os,  eyeos,  youos,  publictivity,  web 2.0,  online operating system,  windows,  msft,  microsoft,  apple,  aapl  Bookmark to: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Holy Grail- &#8220;Online OS&#8217;&#8221;  27 11 2006    Everyone has their holy grail in technology. For some it&#8217;s the semantic web, for some it&#8217;s online services (Jeff Bezos), and for some it&#8217;s singularity. If you were to ask me, what is my Holy Grail or something I&#8217;d like to see or be a part of, it&#8217;s the evolution of the &#8220;Online Operating System&#8221;. Now, everyone thinks the online operating system is going to replace Windows, OS X,etc. I think that&#8217;s nonsense. I think the online operating system is going to be a platform that extends the functionality of desktop software out towards the web. Simply put, the online OS&#8217; will be extensions to desktop OS&#8217;. So how do I see the &#8220;Online OS&#8221; changing computing and the factors involved?  Desktop Apps and Existing OS&#8217; Become Much More Lightweight I truly believe operating systems will become increasingly lightweight installs. We&#8217;re talking Linux sized and able to fit on a small thumb drive. Why? There&#8217;s no need for the bloated code. The basic and needed stuff will be placed on the desktop operating system. The important and variable data will be stored online. Think of it this way, a lightweight version of windows with the browser being the basis for most applications. The specifics to the application to cut down on bandwidth will be stored on the user&#8217;s computer, similar to a Firefox plugin.  Bandwidth Reaches New Heights at An Affordable Price Believe it or not, some people are still on dialup. I think we&#8217;re going to see two really important shifts, that are already there in some areas: Really Fast and Affordable High Speed, along with Wireless internet available everywhere. For this to all work, internet needs to be very fast. We&#8217;re talking Fios or Cablevision Enhanced speed. We&#8217;re almost there, but it&#8217;s going to take some time.  Software Has New Pricing Structures Right now, software is based upon a flat fee. Pay x dollars to get Flash,etc. I think we&#8217;ll see two new pricing methods become popular with an online OS: Advertising based and Subscription. This could totally disrupt the software industry. Some software would work different ways. A lot would stay with the flat fee model.  Niche problems are solved rather than larger problems Developers will be able to make the software they need a lot quicker. I believe that an online OS will let anyone build plugins using a popular language like PHP, with MySQL tables available. The basic hosting is now free, there are no infrastructure costs, and its using a popular language. Think about it: any company can hire a team of developers overnight to build any application they need with no barriers to entry.    Update cycle of software is cut in at least half Software can be updated in a one update to many model. The packaging and processing part is also cut down. Beta testing is also easier to do. Think about how fast consumer app companies update their apps with features. Imagine business and real apps doing that. Wow.  Different Models?- Adobe/Macromedia with Apollo, Systems Like EyeOS (Check out TechCrunch&#8217;s Recent Review of EyeOS for some great background),etc. There&#8217;s a few different models out there. There&#8217;s Apex by Macromedia, EyeOs, YouOS. I think these are the first small small baby steps. Honest truth is, something is going to happen and be done right. It might be done by a big company ala Microsoft. I can see that happening after Vista. The way they deliver OS&#8217; will need to change. A small and young startup might come along as well. History repeats itself folks.  Software Companies Make Money Almost Like AppXChange or Video Game Companies Okay, I believe AppXchange works, where salesforce takes a cut from all apps sold. So we can see sofware companies selling the base &#8220;Online OS&#8221;, and then taking a small cut from applications developed. Honestly, its orgasmic the amount of Applications that would be made from a development community. The same way anyone can make money online from selling things on eBay, a developer could do with apps. Video game companies, i also believe make money off of each game sold. They build the system/platform and also make money from the games developed.  So, I&#8217;m not an expert on the technical things by any means. I dont have all the right answers, maybe even none at all. This is wishful thinking and what &#8220;I&#8221; think would work. I&#8217;d love to hear comments or talk to people who are/ want to build something like this. Software and the Web, is just beginning. Some of the things may be 180 degrees off.  If I&#8217;m wrong, rip me apart, so I get it right. Yeah, I&#8217;m about that thing called l-e-a-r-n-i-n-g Can you say? Hello&#8230; New World. Technorati Tags:  software,  online os,  eyeos,  youos,  publictivity,  web 2.0,  online operating system,  windows,  msft,  microsoft,  apple,  aapl  Bookmark to: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451414</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry ,  the correct Apollo link : 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Apollo&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry ,  the correct Apollo link :<br />
<a href="http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo" rel="nofollow"> Apollo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Sisk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451399</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Sisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to agree with almost everyone, but how can we even call this an Operating System? The whole thing just seems like a novelty. As stated before, When you can boot to this OS, bypassing windows, then there&#039;s something in the right direction... but until then, just keep it under wraps. So some micro-promotion so people know you&#039;re still working on the project. That&#039;s like inventing some snow skis that go on car wheels and calling it a new car... no its not, its just something added to my existing car that, in reality, does nothing practical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to agree with almost everyone, but how can we even call this an Operating System? The whole thing just seems like a novelty. As stated before, When you can boot to this OS, bypassing windows, then there&#8217;s something in the right direction&#8230; but until then, just keep it under wraps. So some micro-promotion so people know you&#8217;re still working on the project. That&#8217;s like inventing some snow skis that go on car wheels and calling it a new car&#8230; no its not, its just something added to my existing car that, in reality, does nothing practical.</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/27/eyeos-open-source-webos-for-the-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-451396</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not fair to compare this product to desktop.com , which was unique in its features and look and feel , but as Tony  said : its more accurate to call it : application suite.

By the way , i read before that Google hired many of Firefox developers , plus IE lead developer , and i also read they were building sophisticated browser cache engine , are we close to Google web based OS?

Note: its lame to mention AJAX when talking about creating true web based OS , i think a sirius company will use real web platform , ActiveX maybe , or perhaps Adobe&#039;s new &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordpress.org/support/topic/48229&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Apollo&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not fair to compare this product to desktop.com , which was unique in its features and look and feel , but as Tony  said : its more accurate to call it : application suite.</p>
<p>By the way , i read before that Google hired many of Firefox developers , plus IE lead developer , and i also read they were building sophisticated browser cache engine , are we close to Google web based OS?</p>
<p>Note: its lame to mention AJAX when talking about creating true web based OS , i think a sirius company will use real web platform , ActiveX maybe , or perhaps Adobe&#8217;s new <a href="http://wordpress.org/support/topic/48229" rel="nofollow"> Apollo</a></p>
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