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		<title>By: boseheadphones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2883386</link>
		<dc:creator>boseheadphones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like very much the writings and pictures and explanations in your adress so I look forward to see your next writings.
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To provide useful information, please click to view<br />
<a href="http://www.headphonesky.com" rel="nofollow">Bose headphones</a><br />
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<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: ashari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2675997</link>
		<dc:creator>ashari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shut up bill you sound like a red neck who dont like black people no affence!!!!!!!! doh</description>
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		<title>By: ashari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2675996</link>
		<dc:creator>ashari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is crazy some of you can`t even spell you spell like forth graders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is crazy some of you can`t even spell you spell like forth graders</p>
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		<title>By: ashari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-1/#comment-2675994</link>
		<dc:creator>ashari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everything you write is so long like you writing a book!!</description>
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		<title>By: ashari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-1/#comment-2675992</link>
		<dc:creator>ashari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you need to shut up but i feel you doh you make no sence!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital &#171; ArticleSave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2590213</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital &#171; ArticleSave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about the company back in November 2006 when it raised $1 million  (the new investment brings its total funding is now about $5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2590113</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about the company back in November 2006 when it raised $1 million  (the new investment brings its total funding is now about $5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital &#124; Warwickshire Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2589940</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital &#124; Warwickshire Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about the company back in November 2006 when it raised $1 million  (the new investment brings its total funding is now about $5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2589805</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiki Service AboutUs Secures $2.5 million From Voyager Capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first wrote about the company back in November 2006 when it raised its $1 million Series A round (the new investment brings its total funding is now about $5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: abbench.info</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2550509</link>
		<dc:creator>abbench.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart founders will consider valid criticisms whild dumb ones will ignore it? don&#039;t believe it!</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2511791</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty funny stuff regardless that it&#039;s 2 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty funny stuff regardless that it&#8217;s 2 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Cause Social Network 1.0 Passes On</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-2029817</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Cause Social Network 1.0 Passes On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who&#8217;s going to take the time to read the site? Why wouldn&#8217;t people just use wikipedia? TechCrunch tries to explain it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who&#8217;s going to take the time to read the site? Why wouldn&#8217;t people just use wikipedia? TechCrunch tries to explain it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aboutus.org spamming search results &#124; Cominvent - Enterprise search consultants</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-1989911</link>
		<dc:creator>Aboutus.org spamming search results &#124; Cominvent - Enterprise search consultants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aboutus&#8217;s practice, a Google search for &#8220;aboutus.org unethical&#8221; returns 550 hits (such as this). There are several bad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] aboutus&#8217;s practice, a Google search for &#8220;aboutus.org unethical&#8221; returns 550 hits (such as this). There are several bad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Somewhat Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-1923654</link>
		<dc:creator>Somewhat Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AboutUs A Wiki For Organizations...&lt;/strong&gt;

AboutUs, a Portland, Oregon based startup, which launched in 2006 is focused on creating &quot;about pages&quot; for every domain name and organization. AboutUs offers a community approach to finding out information about an organization or website as it is bu...</description>
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<p>AboutUs, a Portland, Oregon based startup, which launched in 2006 is focused on creating &#8220;about pages&#8221; for every domain name and organization. AboutUs offers a community approach to finding out information about an organization or website as it is bu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 日々の更新ブログ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-1411655</link>
		<dc:creator>日々の更新ブログ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;脳梗塞の後遺症血流障害を改善するイチョウの効果...&lt;/strong&gt;

p脳梗塞の後遺症血流障害を改善するイチョウの効果について、日本でも、次のような試...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>脳梗塞の後遺症血流障害を改善するイチョウの効果&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>p脳梗塞の後遺症血流障害を改善するイチョウの効果について、日本でも、次のような試&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; AboutUs: another free link to your site : SEO Portal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-422330</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; AboutUs: another free link to your site : SEO Portal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week I ran into AboutUs via a posting on Techcrunch. AboutUs is a wiki directory of web sites, mostly populated automatically but with a healthy amount of traffic and a growing number of edits being made daily. If you look up your website on AboutUs, you’ll probably find an entry there. And if you don&#8217;t, an entry is made automatically when you look up a non existing site. The sites traffic is increasing massively as you can see on the Alexa chart: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week I ran into AboutUs via a posting on Techcrunch. AboutUs is a wiki directory of web sites, mostly populated automatically but with a healthy amount of traffic and a growing number of edits being made daily. If you look up your website on AboutUs, you’ll probably find an entry there. And if you don&#8217;t, an entry is made automatically when you look up a non existing site. The sites traffic is increasing massively as you can see on the Alexa chart: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-399606</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherwood, yes we believe its fair use.</description>
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		<title>By: Sherwood</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-399370</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, we all appreciate your feedback in this venue. A direct question for you: what are your thoughts on people&#039;s objections to the way you&#039;ve scraped and republished their web content? Do you believe this constitutes &quot;fair use&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, we all appreciate your feedback in this venue. A direct question for you: what are your thoughts on people&#8217;s objections to the way you&#8217;ve scraped and republished their web content? Do you believe this constitutes &#8220;fair use&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: David 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-396771</link>
		<dc:creator>David 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that the value of wiki is in the community.  I would add that  it&#039;s also in collaborative knowledge.  (There are lots of good examples of this.  Meatball&#039;s probably the best of them.)  And that&#039;s where I really don&#039;t get this project.  I don&#039;t see any collaboration happening.  What would be the incentive to collaborate?  Owners will work on their own pages.  Haters will spam and vandalize.  And who will benefit?  Ray, his investors, and their pocketbooks.  Why would I spend my time building community and community-constructed knowledge for someone else&#039;s profit?  I&#039;m sure Ray&#039;s as nice a guy as the article makes out, but taking advantage of &quot;the wiki way&quot; much?

So, in other words, pretty much what Drama 2.0 said: 

No other parties truly have an incentive to care and devote time to contributing. In essence, this is nothing more than a Web 2.0 link farm.

Maybe this is what happens when you monetize wiki.  

And then, on top of that, you get things like:

&quot;ummm… blog…not wiki…. assumed&quot;

You want me to put my business in this yahoo&#039;s hands?  Putz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that the value of wiki is in the community.  I would add that  it&#8217;s also in collaborative knowledge.  (There are lots of good examples of this.  Meatball&#8217;s probably the best of them.)  And that&#8217;s where I really don&#8217;t get this project.  I don&#8217;t see any collaboration happening.  What would be the incentive to collaborate?  Owners will work on their own pages.  Haters will spam and vandalize.  And who will benefit?  Ray, his investors, and their pocketbooks.  Why would I spend my time building community and community-constructed knowledge for someone else&#8217;s profit?  I&#8217;m sure Ray&#8217;s as nice a guy as the article makes out, but taking advantage of &#8220;the wiki way&#8221; much?</p>
<p>So, in other words, pretty much what Drama 2.0 said: </p>
<p>No other parties truly have an incentive to care and devote time to contributing. In essence, this is nothing more than a Web 2.0 link farm.</p>
<p>Maybe this is what happens when you monetize wiki.  </p>
<p>And then, on top of that, you get things like:</p>
<p>&#8220;ummm… blog…not wiki…. assumed&#8221;</p>
<p>You want me to put my business in this yahoo&#8217;s hands?  Putz.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Makice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-396457</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Makice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of commentary for a day. Reflecting on what I just quickly read, I see the main issues being:

1) Was it wise to invest in AboutUs?

2) Is it ethical to populate the site the way they did?

3) Is there value, or the potential for value, in the AboutUs content?

RE: #1 ... I have to assume there is a business plan (even if the plan is just a philosophy), and that they are probably looking at a Wikipedia kind of arc. It would be very interesting to see how this kind of a site might be received outside of the U.S., in places where wikis are king and proprietary content is not nearly the same focus. That $1m probably won&#039;t buy profits for the next five years, but it could seed the things to make an environment ripe for profit in that time. As someone posted above, the jury is out on the sanity of the decision. Bottom line for me: it&#039;s not my money.

RE: #2 ... I&#039;m not sure I can speak to the ethics, but I can to the sensitivity to user experience.

It would have been nice if the process of release had included usability, not just of the MediaWiki interface (which has to be improved, to make it more accessible to the potential users of this site) but also for the impact on businesses and organization. That might have led to insights about some of the issues raised (RSS feeds, opt-out) that would have been part of the initial release. Those things aren&#039;t beyond fixing, but much of the negative above reaction might have been dulled with the reassurance that all of this was considered and addressed with more than &quot;anyone can edit it&quot;

That said, when copyright infringement occurs, isn&#039;t the first step to request the content be removed? How is that different with AboutUs, except that you can avoid the request part and just do it yourself? Protected content finds its way to Wikipedia, too, but the community responds by being sensitive to such edits. The bulk of the information here and the bulk of the people affected are not going to raise any red flags. For those situations and reactionaries who are concerned with the content, the solution seems completely within your control.

RE: #3 ... The value of any wiki is not its content. It is its community. The detractors above (and even some supporting responses) tend to focus on whether a copy of commonly found information is ever going to be useful. Probably not. But the community that forms to caretake that content, massaging it, protecting it, expanding on it ... The community is very valuable. My guess is THAT is what the investors are ultimately interested in. The quality of the content this community generates is not going to be an exponential, not a multiple, of the number of people invovled.

And it is not the text that becomes important, but the links that join that text. Google is not going to be able to spider for context as efficiently or deeply as humans trying to make sense of what fits together. As these starter pages start spawning new kinds of articles, the value will become very apparent. Potentially, AboutUs can be something VERY different from any existing search tool.

Yes, technically anyone with the time available that Ray spent on starting this site will be able to reproduce the effort. However, I doubt they can reproduce the hooks into the wiki community as easily or necessarily engender the same sense of ownership. There is a human, collaborative element at work the comments above have largely negelected to incorporate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of commentary for a day. Reflecting on what I just quickly read, I see the main issues being:</p>
<p>1) Was it wise to invest in AboutUs?</p>
<p>2) Is it ethical to populate the site the way they did?</p>
<p>3) Is there value, or the potential for value, in the AboutUs content?</p>
<p>RE: #1 &#8230; I have to assume there is a business plan (even if the plan is just a philosophy), and that they are probably looking at a Wikipedia kind of arc. It would be very interesting to see how this kind of a site might be received outside of the U.S., in places where wikis are king and proprietary content is not nearly the same focus. That $1m probably won&#8217;t buy profits for the next five years, but it could seed the things to make an environment ripe for profit in that time. As someone posted above, the jury is out on the sanity of the decision. Bottom line for me: it&#8217;s not my money.</p>
<p>RE: #2 &#8230; I&#8217;m not sure I can speak to the ethics, but I can to the sensitivity to user experience.</p>
<p>It would have been nice if the process of release had included usability, not just of the MediaWiki interface (which has to be improved, to make it more accessible to the potential users of this site) but also for the impact on businesses and organization. That might have led to insights about some of the issues raised (RSS feeds, opt-out) that would have been part of the initial release. Those things aren&#8217;t beyond fixing, but much of the negative above reaction might have been dulled with the reassurance that all of this was considered and addressed with more than &#8220;anyone can edit it&#8221;</p>
<p>That said, when copyright infringement occurs, isn&#8217;t the first step to request the content be removed? How is that different with AboutUs, except that you can avoid the request part and just do it yourself? Protected content finds its way to Wikipedia, too, but the community responds by being sensitive to such edits. The bulk of the information here and the bulk of the people affected are not going to raise any red flags. For those situations and reactionaries who are concerned with the content, the solution seems completely within your control.</p>
<p>RE: #3 &#8230; The value of any wiki is not its content. It is its community. The detractors above (and even some supporting responses) tend to focus on whether a copy of commonly found information is ever going to be useful. Probably not. But the community that forms to caretake that content, massaging it, protecting it, expanding on it &#8230; The community is very valuable. My guess is THAT is what the investors are ultimately interested in. The quality of the content this community generates is not going to be an exponential, not a multiple, of the number of people invovled.</p>
<p>And it is not the text that becomes important, but the links that join that text. Google is not going to be able to spider for context as efficiently or deeply as humans trying to make sense of what fits together. As these starter pages start spawning new kinds of articles, the value will become very apparent. Potentially, AboutUs can be something VERY different from any existing search tool.</p>
<p>Yes, technically anyone with the time available that Ray spent on starting this site will be able to reproduce the effort. However, I doubt they can reproduce the hooks into the wiki community as easily or necessarily engender the same sense of ownership. There is a human, collaborative element at work the comments above have largely negelected to incorporate.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-396412</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure what the practical use of this website is? If we want about us pages, can&#039;t we just write them on our own sites? I guess it allows others to define what our site is about - but why does someone want to know about the site if they don&#039;t want to visit it? Could this fall under the umbrella of Wikipedia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what the practical use of this website is? If we want about us pages, can&#8217;t we just write them on our own sites? I guess it allows others to define what our site is about &#8211; but why does someone want to know about the site if they don&#8217;t want to visit it? Could this fall under the umbrella of Wikipedia?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-396376</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At present, we understand why some people think the automatically generated pages aren’t that useful because the same information is easily available elsewhere.  If no one hits the edit button, then the site will not succeed.  Over time, as people improve the descriptions, add related sites, update information and link pages together along human lines, AboutUs becomes a credible and trusted place that people can go to find and share information about the Internet as a whole.  The key is user involvement.

Just as a blog post and related public comments about a website provide additional context for the reader, AboutUs accumulates descriptive information in a wiki manner.  The main difference is in the way edits are moderated and the idea that wiki content remains editable.  There are many edits made each day and we work hard to retain the good changes and revert non-constructive ones.  We are at the beginning, and over time, this process will result in a better and better resource.

The money we’ve raised will also go towards development of needed features.  Website owners will have more control over their pages and granular information through RSS and e-mail.  We are supporting identity initiatives such as OpenID and working within the wiki community on ways to combat spam and vandalism.  And yes, among other things, the capitalization algorithm needs works too.

Right now, we’re focused on building a community of editors and a valuable site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At present, we understand why some people think the automatically generated pages aren’t that useful because the same information is easily available elsewhere.  If no one hits the edit button, then the site will not succeed.  Over time, as people improve the descriptions, add related sites, update information and link pages together along human lines, AboutUs becomes a credible and trusted place that people can go to find and share information about the Internet as a whole.  The key is user involvement.</p>
<p>Just as a blog post and related public comments about a website provide additional context for the reader, AboutUs accumulates descriptive information in a wiki manner.  The main difference is in the way edits are moderated and the idea that wiki content remains editable.  There are many edits made each day and we work hard to retain the good changes and revert non-constructive ones.  We are at the beginning, and over time, this process will result in a better and better resource.</p>
<p>The money we’ve raised will also go towards development of needed features.  Website owners will have more control over their pages and granular information through RSS and e-mail.  We are supporting identity initiatives such as OpenID and working within the wiki community on ways to combat spam and vandalism.  And yes, among other things, the capitalization algorithm needs works too.</p>
<p>Right now, we’re focused on building a community of editors and a valuable site.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-395319</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm... blog...not wiki.... assumed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm&#8230; blog&#8230;not wiki&#8230;. assumed</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-395305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mark,

From your messages, I mistakenly assummed that you didn&#039;t want to be a part of the site. Because it is wiki, I simply reverted my changes.  http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=Crisscross.com&amp;action=history</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mark,</p>
<p>From your messages, I mistakenly assummed that you didn&#8217;t want to be a part of the site. Because it is wiki, I simply reverted my changes.  <a href="http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=Crisscross.com&amp;action=history" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=Crisscross.com&amp;action=history'>http://www.abou...;action=history</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Devlin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/14/aboutusorg-a-wiki-about-every-website/comment-page-2/#comment-395202</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: My message was removed, and replaced with the non-editable: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The website owner at Crisscross.com has elected not to have their AboutUs.org page have information from their website. We apologize that this page is more sparse than other pages on AboutUs.org. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I did not ask to opt-out. In fact, I opted-in to leave a valid message about Crisscross on AboutUs, telling readers about our relationship with aboutUs, and providing valid links to our About Us and Wikipedia pages. It appears that AboutUs would like to censor anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with their worldview. Not very wiki-like, not very web 2.0 and certainly cause for further alarm.

I have now put the same message on my other sites&#039; AboutUs pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: My message was removed, and replaced with the non-editable: </p>
<blockquote><p>The website owner at Crisscross.com has elected not to have their AboutUs.org page have information from their website. We apologize that this page is more sparse than other pages on AboutUs.org. </p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I did not ask to opt-out. In fact, I opted-in to leave a valid message about Crisscross on AboutUs, telling readers about our relationship with aboutUs, and providing valid links to our About Us and Wikipedia pages. It appears that AboutUs would like to censor anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with their worldview. Not very wiki-like, not very web 2.0 and certainly cause for further alarm.</p>
<p>I have now put the same message on my other sites&#8217; AboutUs pages.</p>
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