November 13, 2006

The New Multiply 3.0 vs. Vox

Marshall Kirkpatrick

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Privacy-centric multimedia social networking service Multiply is releasing what it calls version 3.0 of its service tonight; Multiply targets users who are interested in sharing content with people they know in real life and exercising strong privacy controls. Privacy in social networking is the big selling point for SixApart’s newest service, Vox, as well. Vox is also strong on media sharing; users of both services can post text, photos and video in one place.

Now that Vox has finally launched after a long beta period and Multiply is coming out with new features and a new version, it’s a good time to ask…which one is better? If you’re looking for beautiful templates to chose between, a young hip crowd to network with and a company most likely to support emerging technology trends requested by early-adopter type users then Vox is the way to go. If you seek logical and robust privacy controls and shelter from an online world of strangers then Multiply is better designed. I prefer Multiply’s handling of media items and news feeds from your network of contacts. Vox is beautiful, Multiply is more functional.

Vox is the newest product of SixApart, owners of LiveJournal, MovableType and Typepad. Our previous Vox coverage is here. Multiply is privately owned and recently received $6 million in funding. Multiply is more than 2 years old and claims more than 3 million registered users.

Privacy Settings and Content Distribution

Privacy settings are the key issue according to both companies. Posts on Vox can be made visible to anyone, to just friends, to just family, to friends and family or just to you yourself.

Multiply allows more granular control: your friends, their friends and their friends, your family, their family and their family, your professional contacts, their professional contacts and their professional contacts, only direct contacts in either friend, family or professional contexts or only particular individuals added from contact lists importable from outside software. That’s quite a list of options and the interface makes it very workable. If you want to share something only with your family and their family, but not one more circle of family - well then I guess you’re out of luck. Sliders instead of check boxes could be useful.

Multiply says that there are many situations in which you’d like to share content with people one or two steps removed from your circle of contacts, but you don’t want to add those people to your contact list in order to do so. That makes sense to me.

In other words, if granular selective exposure is what’s important to you - Multiply is a better option than Vox.

Your Network News Feeds

The front page for Multiply users is now a feed of recent posts by friends and family. The page can be extended to include friends of friends and even further removed connections. The service uses a proprietary algorithm that includes how recently you’ve viewed someone’s posts and other factors to determine how close non-direct contacts are to you.

This My Multiply page is much cleaner and simpler than the cluttered Vox Neighborhood page and the all too similar but simpler VoxWatch page. As Facebook demonstrated, when you make the actions of friends visible on a user page - that’s something you need to do carefully. I prefer how Multiply aggregates that content, especially given that the original poster had such granular control over who it will be sent to.

A related section that displays a user’s friends uses the same algorithm to determine closeness and lets you hover over anyone’s image to see their relationship, send them a message or block them. (Example on the left.)

Media Handling

I prefer the way that Multiply works with multimedia, though there are some things like iStockPhoto integration for illustrating your writings that are nice about Vox. Both services allow users to upload photo and video from their computers or a number of online services. Vox transcodes videos, requires an annoying additional page load to view media files and I saw a big loss of quality when I tested Vox’s video handling. Multiply plays videos in Quicktime with no loss of quality but entirely outside of the original context it was posted in.

Multiply’s photo upload just got a major upgrade in version 3.0. The new Ajax uploader lets you reorder with drag and drop and quickly rotate images. It’s quite satisfying to use. Vox has better integration of photos into blog posts themselves, but the Ajax reordering in Multiply is frustratingly absent in Vox.

Multiply supports two-way cross posting with LiveJournal, Blogger, TypePad, Xanga and Windows Live Spaces. Vox only supports cross posting with LiveJournal and Typepad, both owned by SixApart just like Vox is. Multiply offers a screen saver you can download that will display the newest photos from any user you designate - that sounds like a good feature for family users.

Both services let you post by email via mobile phone, but with Vox you can get several different email addresses with different privacy settings. Mobile posting in Multiply is so bare bones I doubt it’s getting much use.

Rights Questions

Lately I’ve taken to framing questions about data export and identity standards as rights questions. I own rights on my data; I want to be able to easily and quickly take it with me from one social network to another. If I want to have a single login across those different networks and perhaps even have multiple personas (personal, professional) then I ought to be able to do so. No one is doing all of that well, but I expect consumers to demand all of it in time.

Multiply will burn you a CD with all of your data and mail it to you for $50. They say that the proof that data export isn’t something their users want is that only 1 person has taken that option in the two plus years it’s been available. I don’t consider that a very compelling argument.

Multiply also told me they were cautious about supporting Open ID standards, Yahoo! Browser Based Authentication or some other single login system because it could so easily go the way of Passport and fall into disuse. I think users should have a standards based single login as an option in addition to a native login. The company told me they were watching to see if one standard or another gains traction - but that’s what everyone says.

Some degree of persona support is available in Multiply, as I can expose some content to my family and other content to professional contacts. It would be good to be able to expose entirely different personal profiles, though.

Multiply does let me export my contacts as a CSV file. That’s a great start. Vox doesn’t support much in the way of these kinds of rights issues, but it just launched and SixApart’s Anil Dash tells me it’s all in the works. The company’s Live Journal property has been a trail blazer when it comes to ID issues. The Multiply team comes from the world of online sports sites and major media. They come from mainstream backgrounds and are targeting mainstream users. SixApart is a company of grass roots innovators, who seem to me more tied to the Web 2.0 community, and who are also targeting mainstream users with Vox. If you’re going to place bets on one of these two rolling out support for things like OpenID or microformats, Vox is the most likely to do so.

Conclusion

Both of these services, the leading privacy-centric multimedia sharing social networks, are not everything I wish they were. They are, however, both doing many things very well. Both are breaking new ground in a very young space on the web.

Both companies are likely to satisfy different kinds of customers. There are some ways they can’t be compared yet, too. For example, I love Vox’s understated advertisements. Multiply is running on VC backing and hasn’t launched a real ad strategy yet.

After looking at both of these systems in some depth, I feel all the more in agreement with the sentiment expressed in my recent interview with SixApart’s Andrew Anker - this sector is not just about MySpace, Facebook and LinkedIn, there is plenty of room still for more and better social networking services.

If you are looking to share text, photos and video with some control over who can see your content - these are two services you should check out. With the launch of version 3.0, I think Multiply has taken the lead.

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  1. Search Engines WEB

    . :-D There are so many fantastic new Web 2.0 services being reviewed here - that it has reached the point where the differences among many are quite technical….

    Instead of chosing between these two - it might be best to register with both.

    They both will most likely expand and grow - so as your lifestyle changes - you can use one more for Business Contacts - and One for Personal or Social Contacts.

  2. Tees

    not another social networking service!!.. can there just be one. myspace friendster okrut and now multiply.. theres also vampirefreaks.

    Flowers in the Attic

  3. kyrie

    meh.. now we can’t access multiply when we REALLY need it. darn timing for an upgrade. although im excited to see new features.

  4. aj castro

    do this mean that me can no longer use our multiply accounts? what will happen to our accounts?

  5. frankie

    c’mon? how long will the upgrade take?

  6. Marshall Kirkpatrick

    That is strange, but I’m sure it will be up soon and everyone’s accounts will be fine AJ. They’ll be better than ever, if you like the upgrade.

  7. felixia

    wat will happen to our photos?

  8. jonathan

    so when will this new ‘upgrade’ be coming out? why weren’t we notified of this change EARLIER? i love multiply, but this is just unfair. bad, BAD service…

  9. jamie

    i just found out about the upgrade when i wanted to access my account today. why was there no notice? and i hope my files in multiply are just fine or else…

    the multiply 3.0 should be better worth the wait. geez

  10. ALicia

    i have confident with multiply that they’ll better than ever, the only concern to me about this upgrade is, how long will it takes ?

  11. Steve

    thanks

  12. chad

    Go multiply! you just keep getting better!

    How long will lthe upgrade take?

  13. imp2u

    arrrrrrrgh…….whay was there no notice ?

  14. carolynn

    How long Should i wait????Huhuhu……

  15. Fifthcolumn

    I love multiply… Yeah, I have a MyWasteOfSpace account, but Multiply is where it is at! Currently, I’m in Finland on travel and was a little taken when I found I couldn’t open the site due to upgrade… I just hope I don’t lose anything. However, I’m thinking that they got everything under control over there. The only other thing I have to ask is… How long is the upgrade going to take?

    one last thing…. People forget the other sites…. Multiply is the Shit!

  16. foodngarden

    first blogger now multiply. let’s see what makes it worth the awaits.

  17. geoff

    for how long this will take me to wait… ???

  18. Inspiring MULTiTUDES

    Thanks for a finally coming renovation!

    I hope the homepage loads faster now. And I hope things look simpler and more user friendly.. because we are waiting so long..!!

    HmmM.. patience.. gentleness.. joy.. peace..

  19. april

    cmon! i was just lookin at pix a few hours ago!! no one gave any notice…how long will dis take?! make sure my pix r still there! :)

  20. xeng zulueta

    W.T.F.?????????????????????? i want my multiply back

  21. M. Arief

    come on.. when it’ll be finish?
    i cant live without my multiply.. :p

    you better make it worthy..

  22. KPiX

    i totally agree with jonathan.
    i do love Multiply, but why no any nofity ???

    waiting for new version…. welcome V.3.0, don’t make me upset.

  23. drake

    i cant wait for the upgrade but a notice wouldve been helpful. Ive just uploaded something and when I clicked on save and publish, then comes the 3.0 page! the come very soon phrase is getting waaaayyy to obvious its gonna take sometime…*sighs*

  24. KUrdi

    what will happen to the blog entries and the photos?

  25. Logha

    send me the new version i will be waiting.Please dun make me upset please…………………………….thank u!!!!!!!!

  26. KUrdi

    how long will the upgrade be? there wasnt any notifications at all….

  27. john

    i like multiply better than the other…i’l guess i have to wait and be patience.

  28. john

    i like multiply better than the other…i’l guess i have to wait and be patient.

  29. rasyidin

    i can see there are so many people addicted to mp….^_^
    can’t wait any longer??

  30. hideta

    allow java script please T_T

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  32. Stephen

    I don’t know what Vox is, but as long as i can delete my messages on Vox, then I choose Vox! I am so Sick & Tired of getting messages and alerts from group members and contacts, that I CAN NOT DELETE! If I have absolutely no interest in that alert or message in my Explore, then i should be able to delete the worthless message!

    But Noooo! No Can Do! I have to wait until that message works it’s way off the page. But! What about a few of the messages that are taking the place of these worthless messages and alerts?? YES! That’s Right! MORE WORTHLESS MESSAGES! I’M SICK OF IT! I WANT TO DELETE MY MESSAGES MULTIPLY!!!!

    Here I Come Vox!

  33. KPiX

    Welcome back, Multiply !!!!

    it looks better, right ? :-)

  34. Everett

    Stephen (#33), while I would question why you choose to remain connected to “useless” people, you may want to have a look at some of what’s new on Multiply. I think you’d be, ahem, quite pleased.

  35. Neil

    wow, so many users in Multiply and yet they still need more cash = no business model. Look, anything over a million users should be making money. There simply isn’t enough dynamic thought going into monetization at the moment. And by monetization, I don’t mean splashing Adsense over your site….

  36. aRdho

    Hoera! Hoera! Multiply! :D

  37. bintang

    how long multiply will take to upgrade ???

    i am so tired to wait this stuff…
    and i am so curious :-)

  38. Inspiring MULTiTUDES

    The ‘Pin’ and ‘Block’ features are the best!!

  39. Inspiring MULTiTUDES

    Yea.. I wonder why the Multiply Team still lacks the monetary support systems. Don’t depend on ADS!

    No way will the ads offer us a better experience in the future..

  40. ironfaith

    Its up !!!!!!!

  41. morad

    In web 2.0 community stand point, Vox is the winner here since it has better integration with 3rd parties such as flickr, amazon, and youtube.

    As for the privacy control, yes Mulitply is clearly the winner. But can’t that be a disadvantage sometimes, where it can be a bottle nick?

    there ya go, that was my two cents

  42. Inspiring MULTiTUDES

    ; )

    I will always support the Multiply Team, no matter what.
    They began with a great vision! Remember!

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  44. andrew

    I do not see any resemblance between multiply and msn logo.
    I do not see any resemblance between multiply and msn logo.
    I do not see any resemblance between multiply and msn logo.
    I do not see any resemblance between multiply and msn logo.

  45. pirate o'hara

    Have you ever stumbled upon any website by mistake, that resembles a portal/search-engine with 250+ categories and a bunch of ads, and you click on any category just to find the entire website is full of spam? I get this same feeling when i go to Multiply. And with that msn-like logo, that feeling just gets reassured … as if some guy just photoshoped msn’s logo because he/she couldn’t find anything better … not to mention thinking that maybe, *maybe* the similiarity would attract more people into clicking the spam.

  46. sMoRTy71

    Marshall, you said:
    “I own rights on my data; I want to be able to easily and quickly take it with me from one social network to another. If I want to have a single login across those different networks and perhaps even have multiple personas (personal, professional) then I ought to be able to do so. No one is doing all of that well, but I expect consumers to demand all of it in time.”

    That is part of the idea behind Profilactic.com. It aims to make the aggregation and management of your online profiles easy.

    We are launching a private beta on December 1st. Our initial beta pool is full; however, you can get on the waiting list here:

    http://www.profilactic.com

  47. Luke Brynley-Jones

    Great article - but Multiply and Vox are still too complex for the average user. etribes (www.etribes.com) is a UK-based “privacy-centric multimedia social networking service” (now there’s a catchy label :) that’s targeted at busy, early-majority users. We find that the more we cut out - the more our members like it. We do offer some pretty nifty features, such as MMS posting of photos and videos and a deskbar that lets members publish direct from their PC - but the point is to keep them really simple. KISS.

  48. emi

    Another social networking website… whoa. I’m amazed. Err… I wonder how many more social networking websites techcrunch will review until the end of the year…

  49. InViN

    I think MSN spaces still have the lock in effect with MSN messenger widespread, although its services are uncomparable with both Multiply and Vox.

    People are reluctant to change and people still use MSN spaces not becoz it’s good, but becoz their friends are all using MSN messenger. It’s convenience that matters the most.

  50. Basicity

    Wow, what an awesome, perfect-fit domain name!!!

  51. Allen

    Its really cool that they are adding more features, more integration (even though I’m getting a bit “tired” of every web site having a web 2.0 look) with other services and etc. And I applaud both for adding more privacy and lass spam, but the thing is, they (and Im finding almost every other 2.0 site) are missing the point.

    You business model when reliant on Advertising for your primary income stream does not differentiate your service from any other. There is no value add for the end user. If there is no value add, and your undifferentiated and look the same how exactly do these sites expect to pull new users in a (I’m sorry to disagree with the author) space (SN) thats begining to see more competition?

  52. Roberto

    What is the cost of Multiply? If it’s free, how much bandwidth and storage do you get?
    Thanks

  53. John C

    Multiply has porn all over it.

  54. Everett

    Does it, John? Adult content shared publicly is a violation of the Terms of Service. Reporting this type of thing to customer service generally results in it being taken care of pretty swiftly.

  55. David Davis

    I just joined multiply, and all I can say is… I hate the playskool interface.

    Vox rules, but of course, I’m biased.

  56. Peter

    Playskool interface… coming from a dude with a robot on his blog.

  57. liza

    im having problems with multiply 3.0. Very annoying

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    Have you checked this new service, 100% flash based ?
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