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		<title>By: &#187; Microsoft startet Aggreg8 - SocialNetwork fuer IT-Profis Tobbis Blog - Aktuelles &#252;ber Windows, Opera &#38; Co. gebloggt von Tobias Steinicke</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-1324707</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Microsoft startet Aggreg8 - SocialNetwork fuer IT-Profis Tobbis Blog - Aktuelles &#252;ber Windows, Opera &#38; Co. gebloggt von Tobias Steinicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] man bei Techcrunch lesen kann, hat Microsoft wohl vor einigen Tagen ein Social-Network f&#252;r IT-Profis gestartet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-396499</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got the invite for this site as well, signed up for an account, not too impressed so far. They will have to send me another email when they have more features.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Ward (Microsoft)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-393669</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ward (Microsoft)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, we did choose community server because it is based on .net, but also because they are fairly innovative (they were open source at the time we started this, not sure if they still are).  As you noted, other sites are based on it also (channel9 is also) so the feeling was any improvements could be shared with those sites.

The other choices included sharepoint, but at the time we started looking into this it was the last version so it didn&#039;t seem the right choice.  But the latest version actually is very scaleable and has some fascinating social networking features out of the box.

In regards to use of Passport any site we develop or sponsor is required to use it.  I can actually understand the weaknesses of Passport, but objectively there is a benefit in that it allows you to have one authentication method across many sites.  But the larget reason we are required to use it is for privacy.

It&#039;s difficult to respond to comments about us utilizing content for our own use (we don&#039;t), or the feeling that we are trying to dominate the community.  Check out the working groups in there now.  How many ms-competitive ones do you see(a lot)?  We really are not controlling this.  But having been outside of Microsoft most of my career I can understand the perception.  We&#039;ll have to disprove this with time.

We&#039;re taking the issues you all point out one at a time and working the kinks out.  Thanks for the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, we did choose community server because it is based on .net, but also because they are fairly innovative (they were open source at the time we started this, not sure if they still are).  As you noted, other sites are based on it also (channel9 is also) so the feeling was any improvements could be shared with those sites.</p>
<p>The other choices included sharepoint, but at the time we started looking into this it was the last version so it didn&#8217;t seem the right choice.  But the latest version actually is very scaleable and has some fascinating social networking features out of the box.</p>
<p>In regards to use of Passport any site we develop or sponsor is required to use it.  I can actually understand the weaknesses of Passport, but objectively there is a benefit in that it allows you to have one authentication method across many sites.  But the larget reason we are required to use it is for privacy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to respond to comments about us utilizing content for our own use (we don&#8217;t), or the feeling that we are trying to dominate the community.  Check out the working groups in there now.  How many ms-competitive ones do you see(a lot)?  We really are not controlling this.  But having been outside of Microsoft most of my career I can understand the perception.  We&#8217;ll have to disprove this with time.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re taking the issues you all point out one at a time and working the kinks out.  Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Chowdhry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-387313</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Chowdhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Ward,
I was just checking out http://communityserver.org/ 
and I kept refreshing the website to see what other showcased websites are powered by Community Server.  It turns out that a few other Microsoft-affiliated websites are associated with the software like Hive.net, the Windows Vista blog, and a couple of MSNBC sites.  

I understand that Community Server runs on .NET, which may explain why other MS-affiliated sites run on Community Server and not other social network platform templates like phpFox.  Basically what I&#039;m wondering is what sold you on Community Server compared to its competitors.  

Are there any other .NET based platforms that you think are noteworthy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Ward,<br />
I was just checking out <a href="http://communityserver.org/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://communityserver.org/'>http://communityserver.org/</a><br />
and I kept refreshing the website to see what other showcased websites are powered by Community Server.  It turns out that a few other Microsoft-affiliated websites are associated with the software like Hive.net, the Windows Vista blog, and a couple of MSNBC sites.  </p>
<p>I understand that Community Server runs on .NET, which may explain why other MS-affiliated sites run on Community Server and not other social network platform templates like phpFox.  Basically what I&#8217;m wondering is what sold you on Community Server compared to its competitors.  </p>
<p>Are there any other .NET based platforms that you think are noteworthy?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sethi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-386464</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Metcalfe has a great post on his disappointment with Aggre8 and points out that Microsoft is still using passport to make people register fro the site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Metcalfe has a great post on his disappointment with Aggre8 and points out that Microsoft is still using passport to make people register fro the site?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-386424</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit I quite like the layout though, very round.....

Stuart
http://www.earnersblog.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit I quite like the layout though, very round&#8230;..</p>
<p>Stuart<br />
<a href="http://www.earnersblog.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.earnersblog.com'>http://www.earnersblog.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-386391</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I imagine the chances of many serious, non-MS platform developers actually using this tool are incredibly low. Developer communities are always much nicer when they&#039;re not controlled (or dominated) by a single platform vendor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I imagine the chances of many serious, non-MS platform developers actually using this tool are incredibly low. Developer communities are always much nicer when they&#8217;re not controlled (or dominated) by a single platform vendor.</p>
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		<title>By: IT快餐&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;发现,分享,关注互联网 &#187; 11-14</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT快餐&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;发现,分享,关注互联网 &#187; 11-14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pixer, AJAX Online Photo Editor  IDG500万投资Web2.0新秀 小玩网上文摘 Microsoft Launches SNS Aggreg8: Not Good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-385485</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M - chill out on the troll stuff. your comment was removed because it was talking about hive.com, something we never brought up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M &#8211; chill out on the troll stuff. your comment was removed because it was talking about hive.com, something we never brought up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ward (Microsoft)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-385395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ward (Microsoft)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiracy theories aside - we have removed no posts or comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy theories aside &#8211; we have removed no posts or comments.</p>
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		<title>By: M Freitas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-385353</link>
		<dc:creator>M Freitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Daren C: don&#039;t need to go that far. I posted the comment #1 here on this topic, pointing out an error in the post. 

My comment was removed. So, it&#039;s not only Microsoft removing their comments, as you can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daren C: don&#8217;t need to go that far. I posted the comment #1 here on this topic, pointing out an error in the post. </p>
<p>My comment was removed. So, it&#8217;s not only Microsoft removing their comments, as you can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ward (Microsoft)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-385253</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ward (Microsoft)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Florian: We actually avoided allowing individual blogs.  Not that we are against it, but we figured there are some many great blog tools out there, and with RSS you can add your blog to the working group where appropriate.  With that in mind, would you still want blogging in the site?

We actually have plans in the coming weeks to roll out the functionality you refer to, seeing other posts by users.  It&#039;s really using the search, populated with a specific users id.  Good to know this is useful.  In fact, this area (the social networking) is likely where much of our effort will be - unless you steer us in the other direction.

In regards to the tagline, that&#039;s actually just for fun.  The intention was to have something an IT Pro would get, but the general public would be confused by.  We&#039;ll likely take it down at some point.  Somebody inside the communit noted that IP v4 is old and we should be using ::1  My reply - once everyone agrees the site is non-Microsoft centric and has the functionality you desire we&#039;ll upgrade our tagline!

Michael:  Yeah, we did intend to launch it.  But honestly we didn&#039;t expect this much of a response!  The intention was to roll it out so we can start getting user input on where to take it from here.  I will admit, there are some kinks and we&#039;re actively striving to kill those.  We&#039;re resolving issues that are minor like layout, or functional issues that we though made sense but the community is telling us is idiotic right away.  But at the same time we want to make sure we build something that our audience wanted so we wanted to get it into their hands as fast as possible.  I think we&#039;ll put a beta tag on the banner :)  Like any large company don&#039;t mix up the fact that we&#039;re not the whole company working on this.  But we are a small yet scrapy group who isn&#039;t driven by revenue but satisfaction.

I love the dialogue and will keep coming back here to get comments.  And we&#039;ll keep improving it until you all feel it&#039;s representative of what you want in an IT focused community!

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Florian: We actually avoided allowing individual blogs.  Not that we are against it, but we figured there are some many great blog tools out there, and with RSS you can add your blog to the working group where appropriate.  With that in mind, would you still want blogging in the site?</p>
<p>We actually have plans in the coming weeks to roll out the functionality you refer to, seeing other posts by users.  It&#8217;s really using the search, populated with a specific users id.  Good to know this is useful.  In fact, this area (the social networking) is likely where much of our effort will be &#8211; unless you steer us in the other direction.</p>
<p>In regards to the tagline, that&#8217;s actually just for fun.  The intention was to have something an IT Pro would get, but the general public would be confused by.  We&#8217;ll likely take it down at some point.  Somebody inside the communit noted that IP v4 is old and we should be using ::1  My reply &#8211; once everyone agrees the site is non-Microsoft centric and has the functionality you desire we&#8217;ll upgrade our tagline!</p>
<p>Michael:  Yeah, we did intend to launch it.  But honestly we didn&#8217;t expect this much of a response!  The intention was to roll it out so we can start getting user input on where to take it from here.  I will admit, there are some kinks and we&#8217;re actively striving to kill those.  We&#8217;re resolving issues that are minor like layout, or functional issues that we though made sense but the community is telling us is idiotic right away.  But at the same time we want to make sure we build something that our audience wanted so we wanted to get it into their hands as fast as possible.  I think we&#8217;ll put a beta tag on the banner <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Like any large company don&#8217;t mix up the fact that we&#8217;re not the whole company working on this.  But we are a small yet scrapy group who isn&#8217;t driven by revenue but satisfaction.</p>
<p>I love the dialogue and will keep coming back here to get comments.  And we&#8217;ll keep improving it until you all feel it&#8217;s representative of what you want in an IT focused community!</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-385046</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - thank you for taking the time to comment on this. Was this meant to be launched at this point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; thank you for taking the time to comment on this. Was this meant to be launched at this point?</p>
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		<title>By: Community Server Daily News : Community Server Daily News for Monday, November 13, 2006</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384992</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Server Daily News : Community Server Daily News for Monday, November 13, 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Community Server-driven Aggreg8.net is released.&#160; Aggreg8 is a social networking and collaboration space for the IT community.&#160; It uses Microsoft Passport (Windows Live ID) authentication.&#160; Go see what you think.&#160; Mike Arrington of TechCrunch originally titled his review of Aggreg8 &quot;Dead on Arrival&quot; but subsequently softened his tone and replaced &quot;Dead on Arrival&quot; with &quot;Not Good.&quot;&#160; Regardless of TechCrunch&#039;s review&#160;or any other opinions about Aggreg8.net, Community Server users will appreciate the extensive customization work done on the site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Community Server-driven Aggreg8.net is released.&nbsp; Aggreg8 is a social networking and collaboration space for the IT community.&nbsp; It uses Microsoft Passport (Windows Live ID) authentication.&nbsp; Go see what you think.&nbsp; Mike Arrington of TechCrunch originally titled his review of Aggreg8 &#8220;Dead on Arrival&#8221; but subsequently softened his tone and replaced &#8220;Dead on Arrival&#8221; with &#8220;Not Good.&#8221;&nbsp; Regardless of TechCrunch&#8217;s review&nbsp;or any other opinions about Aggreg8.net, Community Server users will appreciate the extensive customization work done on the site. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Cervenka</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384805</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Cervenka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idea that I think could do good would be a type of personal blog for every user with the option to give each entry specific tags. When looking at a work-group there could be a link to browse blog entries from other users even if they have not been submitted to this group.
Also options to for instance add links etc to the side-bar would be good. (so a bit more my-space style perhaps)

Also I personally really don&#039;t think that 127.0.0.1 for IT pros is so good.
Why not rather write it out and say &quot;home for IT pros&quot;, &quot;the community for IT pros&quot;, &quot;the IT pros network&quot; .. 
127.0.0.1 makes it a bit nosy I think.
But honestly I didn&#039;t even note that part until Amit has mentioned it - so most others won&#039;t either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea that I think could do good would be a type of personal blog for every user with the option to give each entry specific tags. When looking at a work-group there could be a link to browse blog entries from other users even if they have not been submitted to this group.<br />
Also options to for instance add links etc to the side-bar would be good. (so a bit more my-space style perhaps)</p>
<p>Also I personally really don&#8217;t think that 127.0.0.1 for IT pros is so good.<br />
Why not rather write it out and say &#8220;home for IT pros&#8221;, &#8220;the community for IT pros&#8221;, &#8220;the IT pros network&#8221; ..<br />
127.0.0.1 makes it a bit nosy I think.<br />
But honestly I didn&#8217;t even note that part until Amit has mentioned it &#8211; so most others won&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ward (Microsoft)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384531</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ward (Microsoft)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I love the fact that everyone is actually talking about this!  Here&#039;s some comments from my end, on the team building this.  Not a rebuttal at all, just some clarification from my end so you can see where we are coming from.  See the end of this, my e-mail is there.  Love to hear from you. 

The goal - I&#039;m on the IT Pro audience marketing team.  Our objective is satisfaction, we survey the IT audience twice a year, and in our surveys lack of support for IT Pro community was a big issue.  So this is 1.0 (ok, let&#039;s call it beta) on working to solve this.  We were told by those we surveyed (a lot of people btw) that the IT audience doesn&#039;t get community support online from Microsoft.  But from a personal perspective, I think there are 100&#039;s of community sites, it&#039;s just they are all for developers not for the IT audience.

Functionality - yeah, we do have a ways to go but it&#039;s functional and it&#039;s going to keep getting better.  We&#039;re still building, but I think we have to lay a basic foundation.  Initial focus was on the working group concept.  We heard that IT Pros differ from developers in their need to have more trusted networks.  So we enabled the ability to create private working groups.  And we tried to simplify the way you work with forums.  Postings are made from one interface, you can add RSS feeds into the group and take the content out.  Now we&#039;re building on top of that and we want you, the IT audience, to tell us what to build.  Hardware for sale forums so you can buy / sell used racks?  IT Managers, we&#039;re aiming to help you too since there isn&#039;t much at all out there for that role and not all IT jobs are technical.  Social networking, I’ve been in this industry for a fair bit of time (and little of it in Microsoft) and networking is extremely important.  Especially in an industry with so much project work.  We’re going to keep building there.

The number of groups is actually the number created by the current members.  We’re not creating those, you are.  And talking to yourself as of right now means talking to 16,000 registered members most of whom registered in the last five days.  Also, check out how many Linux user groups there are.  If you want to talk about Linux then go ahead!  Seriously, it’s your community.

The goal is to make this specific to IT.  So yeah, we could go open a form inside Live Spaces.  But how would we support social networking specific to this community?  How would we allow private groups where you can share scripts?  This isn’t a new community platform, it’s a community intended for IT.  That’s why our tagline makes sense to you, but I’m confident if you don’t know what it means you likely shouldn’t be there.

The platform - The site is actually built on Community Server, but we&#039;ve made some significant enhancements so it&#039;s not just a set of fixed forums.  We looked at Sharepoint but the last version didn’t support our needs.  This new release might but we’re not re-platforming for a while.

Comments, good, bad, ugly and even a positive one welcome - michward@microsoft.com  Help us define what this should be so you can make it yours.

We also have a forum inside Aggreg8 for posting comments:  http://aggreg8.net/blogs/aggreg8_community_issues/default.aspx


Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I love the fact that everyone is actually talking about this!  Here&#8217;s some comments from my end, on the team building this.  Not a rebuttal at all, just some clarification from my end so you can see where we are coming from.  See the end of this, my e-mail is there.  Love to hear from you. </p>
<p>The goal &#8211; I&#8217;m on the IT Pro audience marketing team.  Our objective is satisfaction, we survey the IT audience twice a year, and in our surveys lack of support for IT Pro community was a big issue.  So this is 1.0 (ok, let&#8217;s call it beta) on working to solve this.  We were told by those we surveyed (a lot of people btw) that the IT audience doesn&#8217;t get community support online from Microsoft.  But from a personal perspective, I think there are 100&#8217;s of community sites, it&#8217;s just they are all for developers not for the IT audience.</p>
<p>Functionality &#8211; yeah, we do have a ways to go but it&#8217;s functional and it&#8217;s going to keep getting better.  We&#8217;re still building, but I think we have to lay a basic foundation.  Initial focus was on the working group concept.  We heard that IT Pros differ from developers in their need to have more trusted networks.  So we enabled the ability to create private working groups.  And we tried to simplify the way you work with forums.  Postings are made from one interface, you can add RSS feeds into the group and take the content out.  Now we&#8217;re building on top of that and we want you, the IT audience, to tell us what to build.  Hardware for sale forums so you can buy / sell used racks?  IT Managers, we&#8217;re aiming to help you too since there isn&#8217;t much at all out there for that role and not all IT jobs are technical.  Social networking, I’ve been in this industry for a fair bit of time (and little of it in Microsoft) and networking is extremely important.  Especially in an industry with so much project work.  We’re going to keep building there.</p>
<p>The number of groups is actually the number created by the current members.  We’re not creating those, you are.  And talking to yourself as of right now means talking to 16,000 registered members most of whom registered in the last five days.  Also, check out how many Linux user groups there are.  If you want to talk about Linux then go ahead!  Seriously, it’s your community.</p>
<p>The goal is to make this specific to IT.  So yeah, we could go open a form inside Live Spaces.  But how would we support social networking specific to this community?  How would we allow private groups where you can share scripts?  This isn’t a new community platform, it’s a community intended for IT.  That’s why our tagline makes sense to you, but I’m confident if you don’t know what it means you likely shouldn’t be there.</p>
<p>The platform &#8211; The site is actually built on Community Server, but we&#8217;ve made some significant enhancements so it&#8217;s not just a set of fixed forums.  We looked at Sharepoint but the last version didn’t support our needs.  This new release might but we’re not re-platforming for a while.</p>
<p>Comments, good, bad, ugly and even a positive one welcome &#8211; <a href="mailto:michward@microsoft.com">michward@microsoft.com</a>  Help us define what this should be so you can make it yours.</p>
<p>We also have a forum inside Aggreg8 for posting comments:  <a href="http://aggreg8.net/blogs/aggreg8_community_issues/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://aggreg8.net/blogs/aggreg8_community_issues/default.aspx'>http://aggreg8....es/default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Laesch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384486</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Laesch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that doesn&#039;t seem like a domain name they would really need to buy off of somebody.  Whoever owned it sure got lucky.  They could have come up with a better name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that doesn&#8217;t seem like a domain name they would really need to buy off of somebody.  Whoever owned it sure got lucky.  They could have come up with a better name.</p>
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		<title>By: WillStream Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384276</link>
		<dc:creator>WillStream Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Aggreg8 - Social network for IT professionals....&lt;/strong&gt;

Microsoft on Friday launched what it bills as a social networking site for IT professionals, called Aggreg8. The company aims for the site to become a MySpace-like forum for developers to share scripts, tools, or best practices, or even to just connect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Aggreg8 &#8211; Social network for IT professionals&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>Microsoft on Friday launched what it bills as a social networking site for IT professionals, called Aggreg8. The company aims for the site to become a MySpace-like forum for developers to share scripts, tools, or best practices, or even to just connect&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-384153</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the hive is social networking for Microsoft community owners, not developers.</description>
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		<title>By: Rod Trent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383878</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in on the beta of the site (see:  myITforum.com&#039;s group space there), and it hasn&#039;t changed much since the beta -- which is horribly sad.  Basically, anything with Culminis involved (which is supposed to be a community aggregator), doesn&#039;t do very well.  I&#039;m not sure why.

Still, Microsoft is trying to brand this as a MySpace for IT folks.  That&#039;s probably not the best way to market this -- particularly since the MySpace feature set isn&#039;t there.  SharePoint, in my opinion (which is what the site is built on) is not ready as an Internet-facing solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in on the beta of the site (see:  myITforum.com&#8217;s group space there), and it hasn&#8217;t changed much since the beta &#8212; which is horribly sad.  Basically, anything with Culminis involved (which is supposed to be a community aggregator), doesn&#8217;t do very well.  I&#8217;m not sure why.</p>
<p>Still, Microsoft is trying to brand this as a MySpace for IT folks.  That&#8217;s probably not the best way to market this &#8212; particularly since the MySpace feature set isn&#8217;t there.  SharePoint, in my opinion (which is what the site is built on) is not ready as an Internet-facing solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Trent at myITforum.com : TechCrunch agrees with me...Aggreg8 is a poor first showing...</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383874</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Trent at myITforum.com : TechCrunch agrees with me...Aggreg8 is a poor first showing...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Microsoft Launches Aggreg8: Not Good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Florian Cervenka</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383861</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Cervenka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the 127.0.0.1 does have a deeper meaning: you&#039;ll get to talk to yourself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the 127.0.0.1 does have a deeper meaning: you&#8217;ll get to talk to yourself</p>
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		<title>By: Jawad (Shuzak)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383822</link>
		<dc:creator>Jawad (Shuzak)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Amit, I liked a suttle joke as well. I am wearing a T-Shirt right now that says &quot;There&#039;s no place like 127.0.0.1&quot; :)

But their social network still sucks.

- Jawad (Shuzak)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Amit, I liked a suttle joke as well. I am wearing a T-Shirt right now that says &#8220;There&#8217;s no place like 127.0.0.1&#8243; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But their social network still sucks.</p>
<p>- Jawad (Shuzak)</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Chowdhry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383770</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Chowdhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give them some points for having a witty logo though:

&quot;127.0.0.1 is the standard IP address used for a loopback network connection.
This means that if you try to connect to 127.0.0.1, you are immediately looped back to your own machine.
Convincing newbie&#039;s to connect to 127.0.0.1 is a frequent joke on the Internet.&quot;

Found that on some website when I searched for the IP address on their logo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give them some points for having a witty logo though:</p>
<p>&#8220;127.0.0.1 is the standard IP address used for a loopback network connection.<br />
This means that if you try to connect to 127.0.0.1, you are immediately looped back to your own machine.<br />
Convincing newbie&#8217;s to connect to 127.0.0.1 is a frequent joke on the Internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Found that on some website when I searched for the IP address on their logo</p>
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		<title>By: Critical Sports Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/13/microsoft-launches-aggreg8-dead-on-arrival/comment-page-1/#comment-383744</link>
		<dc:creator>Critical Sports Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft is closed circuit. This only serves to further the image that they are lost. Why not bite the bullet and copy Google? Unreal.</description>
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