Comments on: DropSend For Sale: Flock Is Looking http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:59:06 -0800 hourly 1 By:   Anatomy Of A Failed Merger：剖析一次失败的合并 by I TechCrunch:麦斯贝日志 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-1382730   Anatomy Of A Failed Merger：剖析一次失败的合并 by I TechCrunch:麦斯贝日志 Fri, 18 May 2007 07:49:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-1382730 [...] founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the ups and downs of the process of selling the company, writes a long post today about how a deal [...] [...] founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the ups and downs of the process of selling the company, writes a long post today about how a deal [...]

]]> By: Anatomy Of A Failed Merger http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-683145 Anatomy Of A Failed Merger Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:55:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-683145 [...] DropSend founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the ups and downs of the process of selling the company, writes a long post about how a deal fell through with YouSendIt. While it’s fairly unorthodox to tell the whole story as it’s happening, it certainly is an interesting marketing move and makes for great reading. One note of caution, however. Flock was not pleased to have their name brought up as a potential buyer in the original posts, and YouSendIt may not be ecstatic, either, about this recent tell-all. At the very least, if you are interested in keeping your dirty laundry to yourself, consider signing a nondisclosure agreement with Carson before beginning negotiations. I eagerly await the next installment of this series. [...] [...] DropSend founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the ups and downs of the process of selling the company, writes a long post about how a deal fell through with YouSendIt. While it’s fairly unorthodox to tell the whole story as it’s happening, it certainly is an interesting marketing move and makes for great reading. One note of caution, however. Flock was not pleased to have their name brought up as a potential buyer in the original posts, and YouSendIt may not be ecstatic, either, about this recent tell-all. At the very least, if you are interested in keeping your dirty laundry to yourself, consider signing a nondisclosure agreement with Carson before beginning negotiations. I eagerly await the next installment of this series. [...]

]]> By: Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Anatomy Of A Failed Merger http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-650595 Techcrunch » Blog Archive » Anatomy Of A Failed Merger Wed, 03 Jan 2007 08:02:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-650595 [...] DropSend founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the sale of the company, writes a long post today about how a deal fell through with YouSendIt. While its fairly unorthodox to tell the whole story as it’s happening, it certainly is an interesting marketing move and makes for great reading. One note of caution, however. Flock was not pleased to have their name brought up as a potential buyer in the original posts, and YouSendIt may not be ecstatic, either, about this recent set of events. At the very least, if you interested in keeping your dirty laundry to yourself, consider signing a nondisclosure agreement with Carson before beginning negotiations. I eagerly await the next installment of this series. DropSend Sphere It [...] [...] DropSend founder Ryan Carson, who has been chronicling the sale of the company, writes a long post today about how a deal fell through with YouSendIt. While its fairly unorthodox to tell the whole story as it’s happening, it certainly is an interesting marketing move and makes for great reading. One note of caution, however. Flock was not pleased to have their name brought up as a potential buyer in the original posts, and YouSendIt may not be ecstatic, either, about this recent set of events. At the very least, if you interested in keeping your dirty laundry to yourself, consider signing a nondisclosure agreement with Carson before beginning negotiations. I eagerly await the next installment of this series. DropSend Sphere It [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-372305 Chris Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:31:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-372305 ...seems that it's 'cashing in'-time again in dot-com-world. No? ;-) …seems that it’s ‘cashing in’-time again in dot-com-world.
No?

;-)

]]> By: BFG Blog » Tech Venture “Open Sources” Their Negotiations http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-368636 BFG Blog » Tech Venture “Open Sources” Their Negotiations Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:33:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-368636 [...] “As the cost of creating web apps continues to decrease, small direct-sale liquidity events are turning into reasonably profitable exits for entrepreneurs who have invested little capital and time in a new business idea.” - Tech Crunch [...] [...] “As the cost of creating web apps continues to decrease, small direct-sale liquidity events are turning into reasonably profitable exits for entrepreneurs who have invested little capital and time in a new business idea.” – Tech Crunch [...]

]]> By: iShopr Blog » Blog Archive » What Is The Best Time Of Day To Post? ANYTIME http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-367242 iShopr Blog » Blog Archive » What Is The Best Time Of Day To Post? ANYTIME Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:28:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-367242 [...] Brian Halligan from the Small Business 2.0 blog asks Business Blogging: What Is The Best Time Of Day To Post?  He does some research and reaches a conclusion that 11am is a good time to do blog posts. I disagree. I don’t think there is a good or bad time to do blog posts. I sure got lucky and picked up a story on Saturday night and got techcrunched. Michael Arrington from Techcrunch talks about working late at night and making posts 24/7. I guess he is delivering a news service, but the bottom line is that people are reading my blog at all times of the day. [...] [...] Brian Halligan from the Small Business 2.0 blog asks Business Blogging: What Is The Best Time Of Day To Post?  He does some research and reaches a conclusion that 11am is a good time to do blog posts. I disagree. I don’t think there is a good or bad time to do blog posts. I sure got lucky and picked up a story on Saturday night and got techcrunched. Michael Arrington from Techcrunch talks about working late at night and making posts 24/7. I guess he is delivering a news service, but the bottom line is that people are reading my blog at all times of the day. [...]

]]> By: Musings of a West Texas Business Venture http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-364098 Musings of a West Texas Business Venture Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:41:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-364098 <strong>Dropsend For Sale...</strong> Several days ago, DropSend, a prominent Web 2.0 company specializing in "doing one thing well", went onto the auction block. The parent company, Carson Systems, run by Ryan Carson, announced the sale on Saturday at their "Bare Naked App", which was... Dropsend For Sale…

Several days ago, DropSend, a prominent Web 2.0 company specializing in “doing one thing well”, went onto the auction block. The parent company, Carson Systems, run by Ryan Carson, announced the sale on Saturday at their “Bare Naked App”, which was…

]]> By: Ideas are cheap « On medicine and technology http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-349581 Ideas are cheap « On medicine and technology Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:41:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-349581 [...] Carson Systems, the makers of Dropsend have been strikingly open about the process of building and current sale of their web app, and are getting a great level of buzz. (Getting Techcrunch’d is a great way to start the week). They just released figures today of their revenues from Dropsend, a rare move for a private company. [...] [...] Carson Systems, the makers of Dropsend have been strikingly open about the process of building and current sale of their web app, and are getting a great level of buzz. (Getting Techcrunch’d is a great way to start the week). They just released figures today of their revenues from Dropsend, a rare move for a private company. [...]

]]> By: YF Juan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-346843 YF Juan Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:44:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-346843 With this story developing, does this mean that the file transfer/storage space is consolidating? There are countless sites big and small that are offering such service and I have always wondered how does any of them make money to begin with and when will the consolidation begin. Thinking out loud, YF Juan With this story developing, does this mean that the file transfer/storage space is consolidating? There are countless sites big and small that are offering such service and I have always wondered how does any of them make money to begin with and when will the consolidation begin.

Thinking out loud, YF Juan

]]> By: Web 2.0 Television » DropSend goes ‘behind the kimono’ to sell itself http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-346483 Web 2.0 Television » DropSend goes ‘behind the kimono’ to sell itself Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:57:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-346483 [...] DropSend’s sale has made mention on TechCrunch, and Geoffrey Arrone from Flock has apparently shown interest. It remains to be seen whether DropSend’s tech and open approach can lead to a profitable sale. [...] [...] DropSend’s sale has made mention on TechCrunch, and Geoffrey Arrone from Flock has apparently shown interest. It remains to be seen whether DropSend’s tech and open approach can lead to a profitable sale. [...]

]]> By: DropSend Sale Provides a Glimmer of Hope » MichaelWales.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-345974 DropSend Sale Provides a Glimmer of Hope » MichaelWales.com Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-345974 [...] Ryan Carson’s decision to sell DropSend may be quite odd - especially if it’s as profitable as they are making it seem. I can understand the need to focus on other, higher priority projects, but merely dumping off a product that is profitable and has huge potential to grow smells slightly fishy in my book. I’m willing to bet the margin of growth each month is starting to decline and the grass isn’t as green as Carson Systems would want you to believe. Even more mystifying is the fact that Flock is in discussions about the purchase. I understand why - online file storage via your browser fits directly into their ‘vision’ of how the web should work. What I don’t understand is how - it’s apalling to me a company with no product or business plan could raise enough funding (Anyone know how much they raised? A quick TechCrunch search didn’t provide any relevant topics.) to continue Flock, much less purchase other products! [...] [...] Ryan Carson’s decision to sell DropSend may be quite odd – especially if it’s as profitable as they are making it seem. I can understand the need to focus on other, higher priority projects, but merely dumping off a product that is profitable and has huge potential to grow smells slightly fishy in my book. I’m willing to bet the margin of growth each month is starting to decline and the grass isn’t as green as Carson Systems would want you to believe. Even more mystifying is the fact that Flock is in discussions about the purchase. I understand why – online file storage via your browser fits directly into their ‘vision’ of how the web should work. What I don’t understand is how – it’s apalling to me a company with no product or business plan could raise enough funding (Anyone know how much they raised? A quick TechCrunch search didn’t provide any relevant topics.) to continue Flock, much less purchase other products! [...]

]]> By: RSS fabriek » Blog Archive » Wegens te weinig focus te koop: DropSend http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-345739 RSS fabriek » Blog Archive » Wegens te weinig focus te koop: DropSend Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:05:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-345739 [...] Het screenshot is een recente weergave van de Inbox van de makers van DropSend. sinds TechCrunch aandacht besteedde aan de verkoop gaat het hard getuige de vele e-mails die men binnenkrijgt. En aangezien volledige openheid over de verkoop aangekondigd is, is het interessant te volgen wat er nu gebeurt. Alle seinen - veel aandacht voor de aktie, spanning over het verloop, een mooie propositie om partijen tegen elkaar uit te kunnen spelen - staan immers op groen voor een hele mooie prijs. Ik ben benieuwd! [...] [...] Het screenshot is een recente weergave van de Inbox van de makers van DropSend. sinds TechCrunch aandacht besteedde aan de verkoop gaat het hard getuige de vele e-mails die men binnenkrijgt. En aangezien volledige openheid over de verkoop aangekondigd is, is het interessant te volgen wat er nu gebeurt. Alle seinen – veel aandacht voor de aktie, spanning over het verloop, een mooie propositie om partijen tegen elkaar uit te kunnen spelen – staan immers op groen voor een hele mooie prijs. Ik ben benieuwd! [...]

]]> By: Wegens te weinig focus te koop: DropSend · BlueAce http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-345695 Wegens te weinig focus te koop: DropSend · BlueAce Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:38:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-345695 [...] Het screenshot is een recente weergave van de Inbox van de makers van DropSend. sinds TechCrunch aandacht besteedde aan de verkoop gaat het hard getuige de vele e-mails die men binnenkrijgt. En aangezien volledige openheid over de verkoop aangekondigd is, is het interessant te volgen wat er nu gebeurt. Alle seinen - veel aandacht voor de aktie, spanning over het verloop, een mooie propositie om partijen tegen elkaar uit te kunnen spelen - staan immers op groen voor een hele mooie prijs. Ik ben benieuwd! Tags: amigo, dropsend Plaats op... BlinkList [...] [...] Het screenshot is een recente weergave van de Inbox van de makers van DropSend. sinds TechCrunch aandacht besteedde aan de verkoop gaat het hard getuige de vele e-mails die men binnenkrijgt. En aangezien volledige openheid over de verkoop aangekondigd is, is het interessant te volgen wat er nu gebeurt. Alle seinen – veel aandacht voor de aktie, spanning over het verloop, een mooie propositie om partijen tegen elkaar uit te kunnen spelen – staan immers op groen voor een hele mooie prijs. Ik ben benieuwd! Tags: amigo, dropsend Plaats op… BlinkList [...]

]]> By: Voodoo Ventures - Idea Fuel Blog » DropSend on the Block http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-345628 Voodoo Ventures - Idea Fuel Blog » DropSend on the Block Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:08:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-345628 [...] As only a master of online buzz building can do, Ryan is live blogging the sale at BareNakedApp.com, which is the site where he live-blogged the development of their most recent product Amigo.  In what some on his blog have characterized as a misstep, he revealed that he was having IM conversations with Flock, the alternative browser company, as potential buyers.  This lead to the story breaking over the weekend on TechCrunch, which has undoubtedly driven a tremendous amount of awareness of the sale. [...] [...] As only a master of online buzz building can do, Ryan is live blogging the sale at BareNakedApp.com, which is the site where he live-blogged the development of their most recent product Amigo.  In what some on his blog have characterized as a misstep, he revealed that he was having IM conversations with Flock, the alternative browser company, as potential buyers.  This lead to the story breaking over the weekend on TechCrunch, which has undoubtedly driven a tremendous amount of awareness of the sale. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch UK » Blog Archive » DropSend For Sale http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-345415 TechCrunch UK » Blog Archive » DropSend For Sale Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:00:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-345415 [...] Earlier today TechCrunch.com reported that DropSend, a file sharing application, had announced itself for sale today. The owners, Bristol based, Carson Systems, says that “the site is profitable and growing, but that they don’t have enough time to focus on the service”. [...] [...] Earlier today TechCrunch.com reported that DropSend, a file sharing application, had announced itself for sale today. The owners, Bristol based, Carson Systems, says that “the site is profitable and growing, but that they don’t have enough time to focus on the service”. [...]

]]> By: Steve Randle http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-343205 Steve Randle Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:42:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-343205 Decent product, but company seems limited in terms of acquisition potential. I've been using MioNet for the last week and digging it. Good question by the onion regarding copyright - anyone know? Decent product, but company seems limited in terms of acquisition potential. I’ve been using MioNet for the last week and digging it. Good question by the onion regarding copyright – anyone know?

]]> By: Allen http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-343035 Allen Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:51:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-343035 I posted my thoughts about the sale and the communications here: http://www.centernetworks.com/dropsend-for-sale Basically as a former public accountant, I think it would be a mistake to post tons of financial info in a public forum. I posted my thoughts about the sale and the communications here:
http://www.cent...opsend-for-sale

Basically as a former public accountant, I think it would be a mistake to post tons of financial info in a public forum.

]]> By: The Onion http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342997 The Onion Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:43:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342997 Dear All, How is this any different from a regular P2P app in terms of copyright issues? If I send music or a movie to my friends using DropSend, are they not facilitating breach of copyrights? Dear All,

How is this any different from a regular P2P app in terms of copyright issues?
If I send music or a movie to my friends using DropSend, are they not facilitating breach of copyrights?

]]> By: Blake P http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342958 Blake P Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:20:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342958 Amigo must already be showing some traction. If the DropSend application revenue steadily grows and is truly low maintenance, they must need some fast cash in-house funding right now for Amigo. Amigo must already be showing some traction. If the DropSend application revenue steadily grows and is truly low maintenance, they must need some fast cash in-house funding right now for Amigo.

]]> By: Patricia http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342801 Patricia Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:31:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342801 This type of company should target the entertainment industry. Files sent between agents, managers, producers, etc., are huge and therefore still primarily sent via messenger - it can cost up to $30 a pop per item each day for even a boutique level company in this space. Electronic delivery would do well in the right hands - direct publicity and marketing I guess to the dozens of talent firms, media houses and production companies in the U.S. concentrating on NY and of course LA. The market would probably adopt quickly but whoever snags this needs to hurry. It's a slim window and something will fill it fast. This type of company should target the entertainment industry. Files sent between agents, managers, producers, etc., are huge and therefore still primarily sent via messenger – it can cost up to $30 a pop per item each day for even a boutique level company in this space. Electronic delivery would do well in the right hands – direct publicity and marketing I guess to the dozens of talent firms, media houses and production companies in the U.S. concentrating on NY and of course LA.

The market would probably adopt quickly but whoever snags this needs to hurry. It’s a slim window and something will fill it fast.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » DropSend、売りに出る―Flockが興味か？ http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342739 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » DropSend、売りに出る―Flockが興味か？ Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:09:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342739 [...] [原文へ] DropSend [...] [...] [原文へ] DropSend [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342321 Jason Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:51:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342321 Geoffrey, that is a little harsh. I don't see Carson Systems as a company who is just looking for a quick sell. They have a good product and I have a lot of respect for Ryan and his team. Maybe some respect in turn would be nice? They are profitable (or so I have heard), so I don't see why this would be bad buy. Personally, as someone who travels a lot and uses multiple computers, a built in, easy, ready-to-go-at-a-click-of-a-button upload utility inside a browser would be fun! Geoffrey, that is a little harsh. I don’t see Carson Systems as a company who is just looking for a quick sell. They have a good product and I have a lot of respect for Ryan and his team. Maybe some respect in turn would be nice? They are profitable (or so I have heard), so I don’t see why this would be bad buy. Personally, as someone who travels a lot and uses multiple computers, a built in, easy, ready-to-go-at-a-click-of-a-button upload utility inside a browser would be fun!

]]> By: Boost Your Credit » Blog Archive » Drop Send for sale http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342202 Boost Your Credit » Blog Archive » Drop Send for sale Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:07:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342202 [...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/ [...] [...] http://www.tech...ock-is-looking/ [...]

]]> By: Geoffrey Arone http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342173 Geoffrey Arone Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:57:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342173 NEWS FLASH: FLOCK NOT INTERESTED! Story at 11. Had an IM session with Ryan yesterday when he told me he was looking to sell. I did have questions because a friend of mine is looking to start or buy a small company. As for Flock's interest in this area, (if our users ask for it ) I would be much more likely to partner with a more established company than someone looking for a quick flip. NEWS FLASH: FLOCK NOT INTERESTED! Story at 11. Had an IM session with Ryan yesterday when he told me he was looking to sell. I did have questions because a friend of mine is looking to start or buy a small company. As for Flock’s interest in this area, (if our users ask for it ) I would be much more likely to partner with a more established company than someone looking for a quick flip.

]]> By: Janko Roettgers http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/comment-page-1/#comment-342031 Janko Roettgers Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:06:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/05/dropsend-for-sale-flock-is-looking/#comment-342031 Just a small correction: Microsoft has entered this space a while ago. They bought Foldershare.com in November 2005. It just hasn't really found it's way into the Live.com portfolio yet. Just a small correction: Microsoft has entered this space a while ago. They bought Foldershare.com in November 2005. It just hasn’t really found it’s way into the Live.com portfolio yet.

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