Comments on: Orkut Bigger Than MySpace? Ok, Maybe Not http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:29:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Die ganz großen Fische im Becken der Social Networks : WebWorkBlogger http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-2421190 Die ganz großen Fische im Becken der Social Networks : WebWorkBlogger Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:14:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-2421190 [...] TechCrunch fand ich eine sehr interessante Statistik zu Social Networks. Da bekommt man mal ein Gefühl [...] [...] TechCrunch fand ich eine sehr interessante Statistik zu Social Networks. Da bekommt man mal ein Gefühl [...]

]]> By: Subikar http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-618224 Subikar Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:50:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-618224 I agree with you orkut server down more then eight hour today. I agree with you orkut server down more then eight hour today.

]]> By: Dicovery http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-618209 Dicovery Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:46:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-618209 Yes, orkut is growing like anything, now its become symbol of social marking. Yes, orkut is growing like anything, now its become symbol of social marking.

]]> By: Net 2.0 » Blog Archive » Top tech headlines for 2007 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-613167 Net 2.0 » Blog Archive » Top tech headlines for 2007 Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:15:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-613167 [...] Orkut surpasses MySpace in social networking (some news happened in 2006 here as well as here). [...] [...] Orkut surpasses MySpace in social networking (some news happened in 2006 here as well as here). [...]

]]> By: Court http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-520376 Court Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:39:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-520376 Why do so few rounds-ups of social networking include Blackplanet.com? It has 2.5million uniques and 500million page views a month. according to Hitwise it is the 4th largest social network in the world!! It was founded 7 years ago. Why do so few rounds-ups of social networking include Blackplanet.com? It has 2.5million uniques and 500million page views a month. according to Hitwise it is the 4th largest social network in the world!!

It was founded 7 years ago.

]]> By: Kasi-Blog » Blog Archive » StudiVZ Encyclopedia - the most complete summary (until now) http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-391130 Kasi-Blog » Blog Archive » StudiVZ Encyclopedia - the most complete summary (until now) Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:50:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-391130 [...] Since prices on ads at social networks are increasing tremendously, such a move can generate a large sum of income, especially when linked to the profiles of users or certain discussion groups (see the article at TechCrunch, MarketWire via Basic Thinking (I) , Basic Thinking (II), Sebastian Görres and Mashable, see also Karmaweb for a discussion of these figures). [...] [...] Since prices on ads at social networks are increasing tremendously, such a move can generate a large sum of income, especially when linked to the profiles of users or certain discussion groups (see the article at TechCrunch, MarketWire via Basic Thinking (I) , Basic Thinking (II), Sebastian Görres and Mashable, see also Karmaweb for a discussion of these figures). [...]

]]> By: justin http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-360749 justin Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:05:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-360749 i think that myspace is a cool website i think that myspace is a cool website

]]> By: pk_synths http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-354323 pk_synths Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:02:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-354323 Ok I know this post is kind of old but I was doing some research and find something very strange about your data. By Comsscore's numbers Orkut gets 198M pageviews yet only has 351K users. This means that the "average" amount of pageviews an "average" single user goes thru per month is 564 pages. That is freaking obsurd considering the average pages per user average is 2.5 pages. Only way this data would be misqued is that Orkut makes 10 page requests per pageload but even at that rate still hard to imagine 564 pages per user. Also Comscore only tracks USA users (a large portion of Orkut is foreign) on a Nielsen based system so they grossly under report. I tried Comscore once and knew for a fact I was getting 900k page views per month but by their "estimates" I was around 300k page views when 60% of my traffic is USA based. Hopefully someone follows up besides me on this :) Take it easy, PK Ok I know this post is kind of old but I was doing some research and find something very strange about your data. By Comsscore’s numbers Orkut gets 198M pageviews yet only has 351K users. This means that the “average” amount of pageviews an “average” single user goes thru per month is 564 pages. That is freaking obsurd considering the average pages per user average is 2.5 pages. Only way this data would be misqued is that Orkut makes 10 page requests per pageload but even at that rate still hard to imagine 564 pages per user.

Also Comscore only tracks USA users (a large portion of Orkut is foreign) on a Nielsen based system so they grossly under report. I tried Comscore once and knew for a fact I was getting 900k page views per month but by their “estimates” I was around 300k page views when 60% of my traffic is USA based.

Hopefully someone follows up besides me on this :)

Take it easy,
PK

]]> By: Michael Rubin, comScore http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-352387 Michael Rubin, comScore Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-352387 To clarify the last post, both worldwide and Latin America are observing unique visitors aged 15+. To clarify the last post, both worldwide and Latin America are observing unique visitors aged 15+.

]]> By: Michael Rubin, comScore http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-352110 Michael Rubin, comScore Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:12:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-352110 Replying to #52, 64, 67, and others: Just to set the record straight, comScore does indeed observe traffic both globally and in the U.S. Here are some related data for September 2006: Worldwide Traffic (15+) ----------------------------- MySpace -- 78.3 million unique visitors Orkut -- 15.7 million unique visitors Latin America ----------------- MySpace -- 2.7 million unique visitors Orkut -- 10.3 million unique visitors Replying to #52, 64, 67, and others:

Just to set the record straight, comScore does indeed observe traffic both globally and in the U.S.

Here are some related data for September 2006:

Worldwide Traffic (15+)
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MySpace — 78.3 million unique visitors
Orkut — 15.7 million unique visitors

Latin America
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MySpace — 2.7 million unique visitors
Orkut — 10.3 million unique visitors

]]> By: Kasi-Blog » Blog Archive » StudiVZ - The glamour is fading (or a chronic on how lack of PR can ruin a good idea) http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-341340 Kasi-Blog » Blog Archive » StudiVZ - The glamour is fading (or a chronic on how lack of PR can ruin a good idea) Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:19:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-341340 [...] StudiVZ and GoogleAds: it is rumoured that StudiVZ will soon use GoogleAds or any other forms of online advertisement (see Netzeitung and the blogs of Azrael, i-jeriko and the comment by StudiVZ founder Michael Brehm). Since prices on ads at social networks are increasing tremendously, such a move is not unlikely (see the article at TechCrunch, MarketWire via Basic Thinking (I) , Basic Thinking (II), Sebastian Görres and Mashable - a new site for covering Social Networks but with a huge gap when covering StudiVZ; see also Karmaweb for a discussion of these figures). Whether StudiVz is already making advertisement for coffee or not, is discussed by Haeby.) [...] [...] StudiVZ and GoogleAds: it is rumoured that StudiVZ will soon use GoogleAds or any other forms of online advertisement (see Netzeitung and the blogs of Azrael, i-jeriko and the comment by StudiVZ founder Michael Brehm). Since prices on ads at social networks are increasing tremendously, such a move is not unlikely (see the article at TechCrunch, MarketWire via Basic Thinking (I) , Basic Thinking (II), Sebastian Görres and Mashable - a new site for covering Social Networks but with a huge gap when covering StudiVZ; see also Karmaweb for a discussion of these figures). Whether StudiVz is already making advertisement for coffee or not, is discussed by Haeby.) [...]

]]> By: Hire Calling http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-334310 Hire Calling Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:00:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-334310 <strong>Why I stopped paying attention to Alexa, ...</strong> I was reading Michael Arrington’s TechCrunch yesterday, and I saw this. It reminded me of a pet peeve of mine - just how far off Alexa’s numbers can be. Since reading the piece, I have been watching the comments roll in with amusement.... Why I stopped paying attention to Alexa, …

I was reading Michael Arrington’s TechCrunch yesterday, and I saw this. It reminded me of a pet peeve of mine - just how far off Alexa’s numbers can be. Since reading the piece, I have been watching the comments roll in with amusement….

]]> By: mark pincus http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-334044 mark pincus Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:35:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-334044 fyi, i think friendster probably does 1 billion monthly page views and tribe around 35-40 million with 1.4 m monthly uniques. fyi, i think friendster probably does 1 billion monthly page views and tribe around 35-40 million with 1.4 m monthly uniques.

]]> By: Social Media Optimization » Top 10 Social Network Sites http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-333302 Social Media Optimization » Top 10 Social Network Sites Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:07:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-333302 [...] Can you name the top ten social network sites in the U.S. (as measured by page view)? Thanks to Techcrunch for publishing this data, which they got from Comscore. [...] [...] Can you name the top ten social network sites in the U.S. (as measured by page view)? Thanks to Techcrunch for publishing this data, which they got from Comscore. [...]

]]> By: andrew s. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-332814 andrew s. Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:18:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-332814 i'd be more inclined to believe that 3000 phony pages are created *an hour* than that there are 3000 total. i’d be more inclined to believe that 3000 phony pages are created *an hour* than that there are 3000 total.

]]> By: Vi http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-330644 Vi Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:20:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-330644 Good to see the comparison chart. Man one billion page views a day is an eye popping figure. Talking abt myspace what jumps up to the forefront of my mind is the recent finding that a lot of phishing attacks are targeted at myspace. According to Kevin Beecroft of mashable labs there are almost 3000 phony pages there used for phishing purposes. With popularity comes people using these sites as a target be it yahoo or myspace. Recently one page that was used for phishing was spotted by myspace and taken off. By the way if anyone interested in reading an article I recently wrote which covers all aspects of phishing attacks and how to protect onself from it you can read it at http://infopowered.blogspot.com/2006/11/everything-you-want-to-know-about.html Now with all the phishing attacks even the most common net user has to stay guarded. Good to see the comparison chart. Man one billion page views a day is an eye popping figure.

Talking abt myspace what jumps up to the forefront of my mind is the recent finding that a lot of phishing attacks are targeted at myspace. According to Kevin Beecroft of mashable labs there are almost 3000 phony pages there used for phishing purposes. With popularity comes people using these sites as a target be it yahoo or myspace. Recently one page that was used for phishing was spotted by myspace and taken off.

By the way if anyone interested in reading an article I recently wrote which covers all aspects of phishing attacks and how to protect onself from it you can read it at

http://infopowered.blogspot.co.....about.html

Now with all the phishing attacks even the most common net user has to stay guarded.

]]> By: Sam Jackson http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329872 Sam Jackson Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:25:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329872 ^^^ It is a little bit of a bizarre group here, for what it's missing. ... I think? ^^^ It is a little bit of a bizarre group here, for what it’s missing. … I think?

]]> By: Moz Hussain http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329451 Moz Hussain Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:58:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329451 Comscore does measure international but those are not the numbers represented here. This is just for US I assume? But I am curious as to why other sites, including Windows Live Spaces which has around 10M users according to Comscore, were not included in the post? Comscore does measure international but those are not the numbers represented here. This is just for US I assume?

But I am curious as to why other sites, including Windows Live Spaces which has around 10M users according to Comscore, were not included in the post?

]]> By: Google Surpasses Channel 4 (UK), Another good reason « Technically Speaking http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329036 Google Surpasses Channel 4 (UK), Another good reason « Technically Speaking Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:49:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-329036 [...] Another good reason that I do the quick hit posting is painfully felt by this guy. He was originally writing the article on Orkut and MySpace, but guess what? The professional bloggers over at TechCrunch beat him to the post online. I would read his though, as his research was really in depth. [...] [...] Another good reason that I do the quick hit posting is painfully felt by this guy. He was originally writing the article on Orkut and MySpace, but guess what? The professional bloggers over at TechCrunch beat him to the post online. I would read his though, as his research was really in depth. [...]

]]> By: Peter B. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-328549 Peter B. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:42:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-328549 "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." I second Chris in that I cannot believe a highly respected site like TechCrunch is comparing US-only data with global data! “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”

I second Chris in that I cannot believe a highly respected site like TechCrunch is comparing US-only data with global data!

]]> By: diego http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-328409 diego Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:51:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-328409 and the techcrunch community in orkut is: http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22932071 and the techcrunch community in orkut is:
http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22932071

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327938 Chris Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:06:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327938 I really feel the need to second what peter said in 52. While alexa data might not be perfect using comscore, US only data, to compare international sites and draw any form of conclusion is very misleading journalism and not the kind of thing I expect from TC (and particularly Michael). I really feel the need to second what peter said in 52. While alexa data might not be perfect using comscore, US only data, to compare international sites and draw any form of conclusion is very misleading journalism and not the kind of thing I expect from TC (and particularly Michael).

]]> By: dave at faceloop http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327073 dave at faceloop Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:52:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327073 ^ crappy, but free. ^ crappy, but free.

]]> By: dave at faceloop http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327067 dave at faceloop Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:51:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-327067 Social Networking is such a funny term. All of these "Social Networking" sites are nothing more than web based AOL's. It is genius really (well, that is obvious). Everyone always ripped on AOL...but when you call it by another name... Orkut, Myspace, all of them...they are just crappy versions of AOL. It's funny. Social Networking is such a funny term. All of these “Social Networking” sites are nothing more than web based AOL’s.

It is genius really (well, that is obvious). Everyone always ripped on AOL…but when you call it by another name…

Orkut, Myspace, all of them…they are just crappy versions of AOL. It’s funny.

]]> By: VideoKarma.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-326869 VideoKarma.com Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:28:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/01/orkut-bigger-than-myspace-ok-maybe-not/#comment-326869 Ref: the post from Eric above, here is another similar http://www.go2web20.net/ Seems Web2.0's exponentials will be harder and harder to measure. Ref: the post from Eric above, here is another similar http://www.go2web20.net/
Seems Web2.0’s exponentials will be harder and harder to measure.

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