October 4, 2006

AOL’s New Private Information Harvester

Michael Arrington

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AOL announced Openride today, a new Internet Explorer based browser. Openride is available only on Windows machines (and does not work with Vista). Openride gives users access to the Internet, as well as email, IM and locally stored audio, video and photo content, all within a single application.

While we note some innovative features, the fact that AOL has recently proved to be more than unreliable in protecting its users’ data leads us to strongly recommend users think twice before using this product and giving AOL access to yet more private data.

The Good

In addition to now-standard features like tabbed browsing, Openride incorporates email, instant messaging and a media player directly into a “revolutionary quad-pane interface” (meaning it has four windows). Each pane resizes depending on what you are doing. Click on the email pane and it grows and moves to the center, for example. Users can also resize panes manually, using a tool they call the “Dynasizer.” Despite the questionable name, the ability to drag a dot in the middle of the screen and resize windows is efficient. Having this on the desktop would be welcome.

The email tool is useful and allows user to add access to non-AOL accounts. IM is less useful as it only supports AIM. The media center indexes audio, video and picture files on your hard drive for consumption on the Openride video player.

The Bad

In our testing throughout the day Openride crashed repeatedly, particularly when trying to play video. We also noticed (as did others) that the installation included AOL Desktop Search (which indexes your hard drive), without our knowledge or consent. Finally, we would have liked a confirmation window before Openride auto-indexed audio, video and photo content on the hard drive.

A small nit that we noticed as well is that the email feature is effectively webmail, even though this is a desktop client. Users must be online in order to access emails, even those already downloaded into the inbox.

Given AOL’s more than shaky recent history in handling private user information, the last thing we want to see is users giving access to more data to AOL. This software will access non-AOL email information, and data stored on the user’s hard drive. That is unacceptable in our opinion.

In fact, we were reluctant to install this even for testing purposes. Those of us on Windows machines (not me thankfully) flipped a coin to see who had to install this on their computer and test it. Our Analyst, Nick Gonzalez, lost the toss and cursed as he had to deal with the dozens of system crashes it caused and is still trying to uninstall the last pieces of the software from his computer. If you insist on trying this for yourself, we recommend waiting until a more stable release, and reading the terms and conditions carefully before agreeing.

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  1. Startups.in/India

    “Openride is available only on Windows machines (and does not work with Vista).”

    You meant not available on Windows vista! Vista is after all another Windows flavor. I’m yet to try this out but I guess the multiple pane thing is also possible with Firefox using foxpose.

  2. Mike D.

    Interesting… and not likely to be installed on my PC (if I had one).

    Question though: Why isn’t “pouty looking model in demo” listed under “The Good”?

  3. Anshul

    Why does AOL even need to release it. It is nothing more than just a tool optimized for browsing AOL services. And considering their past history with private data, I doubt if anyone apart from the people at Techcrunch downloaded it.

  4. Ted

    The headline is a little harsh, the info release was clearly a boneheaded move on by the AOL researchers, but it wasn’t malicious and no real harm has come from it that I know of.

    The real nut of the article is: In our testing throughout the day Openride crashed repeatedly

    That’s pretty much all you need to know. Quick, what’s the best web product AOL has released in the last 10 years? (crickets)

  5. Josh

    Worst…UI…ever…

  6. Eric

    Josh is right. Who the hell wants to browse the web on a 4th of the screen, with all the other screens cluttering everything up. And who is so obsessed with email that the need to see it at all times. Most people check their email, and minimize in windows or hide on the mac, and get a neat little notifcation when they get a new mail. Or IM’s for that matter, I do not want to see my iChat when im browsing the web. Jesus, everything about this is bad, and I can tell you didnt spend much time on it because you didnt complain about the UI at all.

  7. Gregor J. Rothfuss

    Coming from AOL, why is this not based on Mozilla?

  8. Faisal

    Good points : Privacy issues , why not Mozilla based , windows only, what new? etc.

    Did AOL ever released a good Software?

  9. Michael Geary

    “Those of us on Windows machines (not me thankfully) flipped a coin to see who had to install this on their computer and test it. Our Analyst, Nick Gonzalez, lost the toss and cursed as he had to deal with the dozens of system crashes it caused and is still trying to uninstall the last pieces of the software from his computer.”

    Tossing coins? Installing nasty software on your real computer?

    Why in the world are you guys not using VMware to test software like this? Roll back the VM to the last snapshot and you’re done.

    Go get VMware now. Just do it.

  10. mikey4733

    Wow… AOL is gonna get trashed for this. Is there any hope?

  11. anonymous2000

    Re:
    >Those of us on Windows machines (not me thankfully) flipped a coin to see who had to install this on their computer and test it.

    Use vmware for this sort of thing!!! You install into an image and then delete it forever. :-)

  12. mikey4733

    Revise headline to:

    The Scrollbar Association of America thanks AOL for their innovative software design practices.

    “Clearly, we
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    Said Dan Jac

  13. Nemrut

    Is here is something in the water over in Dulles…do these folks ever learn? They spam the country with plastic discs, make it nearly impossible to cancel an account, distribute personal data around the globe…now they launch an app tha indexes your hard-drive without permission..

    There has to be some law prohibiting development of internet apps by the clueless..

  14. Sean Percival

    Now with choicepoint plugin!

    Yes no longer will you have to read about your search history on a security blog. With the new Choicepoint plugin your browsing habits are sent straight to your personal record in real time!

    Thank you AOL!

  15. Chris

    Seems like Openride is for people who don’t know how to move or resize windows. But I’ve yet to meet any user of Windows who uses an application at less than fullscreen. So maybe AOL are onto something.

  16. Daniel Jomphe

    Michael,

    When you guys (don’t) want to try crapware, I suggest you use the following free appliance with the free vmware player:

    A Virtual Playground

    Starts the system already running a second time in nonpersistent mode. Anything you do will not be permanently written to disk.

    http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/app.....ectory/121

    I have yet to try it, but it really looks interesting for such needs!

  17. steve

    Despite several nasty AOL experiences over the years I downloaded Openride (yes abuse I am an idiot).

    On my PC that is newish and problem-free, I could never get the program to run. Best part of program. The Uninstall was easy to find.

  18. Andrew Weinstein

    A quick correction and an update. First the correction: the story says that “the installation included AOL Desktop Search (which indexes your hard drive), without our knowledge or consent..”

    After the software downloads and before installation occurs, a form appears with clear disclosure language about the additional components installed with OpenRide, including Desktop Search.

    That language says that AOL Desktop Search “will automatically index the files on your computer to allow you to quickly search for a particular file. The index will be stored on your computer only. You can disable (turn off) the indexing feature by changing the setting in the AOL Desktop Search application.”

    The reason Desktop Search is included in OpenRide is to enable users to take full advantage of the media player built into the software. By indexing the music and video files on a machine, the user can easily access their favorite songs, playlists, and other content from OpenRide without having to go through the extended process of finding each of those files manually.

    That said, we agree that users should have control over what software is running on their machines, and we are planning to change the install process in the next version of OpenRide to include an option during install for users to turn off the automatic indexing of files, if they would prefer to do so. (That option already exists, of course, in the preferences area, and users can always uninstall Desktop Search as well.)

    Andrew Weinstein
    Spokesperson, AOL

  19. Lee G.

    Thanks Andy. That does a lot to dispell the last decade of mediocrity coming from your company. Way to go!

  20. Kal

    Given the recent privacy debacle at AOL, what I want to know is: Who in their right mind would allow AOL to index their hard drive?!?!! Clearly no SANE individual would, which is why AOL buried the “disclosure” in the wordy install agreement.

  21. Jayaraman Thatchanamurthy

    Hi,
    I dont know why people are cribbing about AOL.And I dont know how these people are coming across system crashes.
    I have installed OpenRide in all system configurations and I have never faced an issue yet.

    May be they could be installing on Pentium I or 64 MB or Microprocessor PC:) (LOL)

    This is a fantastic application which helps us to manage all our communication activities in a single window.

    I have been used to MS Outlook and this OpenRide matches it a lot,infact a lot more than that.

    In addition,I can link all my yahoo,hotmaill,gmail,aim,aol accounts to MY OpenRide AOL Account and check all mails at a go.

    I simply love this OpenRide and I request people not to crib just for the sake of doing it.

    Regards,
    Jayaraman Thatchanamurthy
    jayaraman925@aim.com

    (An AOL application user but still seeing it as new)

  22. marahmarie

    Andrew,

    Maybe in future versions of OpenRide you could include an uninstaller for AOL Desktop Search. It doesn’t have one now, and as someone who writes about how to uninstall your products, I’m forced to come up with workarounds for that, which isn’t easy on me or people who use my site to get it uninstalled.

    While you and the programmers are chatting about that, maybe you could also mention that the AOL Dialer does NOT uninstall like it should when AOL 9.0 Security Edition is uninstalled. The dialer is still installed on my desktop after uninstalling 9.0, and it’s listed in jv16 Power Tools Startup Manager and in a HijackThis! scan as 04: Autoloaded Startup Entry. I’ll have articles on my site by the end of this week or next delving into a lot more detail about that and more. You can contact me if you wish; I’ve got saved logs and screenshots to prove my point about what doesn’t get removed during an AOL uninstall, which includes tons more than what I’m mentioning here.

    Your software needs a lot of work: completely uninstalling it is almost impossible.