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	<title>Comments on: Jajah Just Launched Killer VOIP Product</title>
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		<title>By: Source: Jajah In Middle Of Bidding War That Could Drive Price Up To $400 Million</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-3086962</link>
		<dc:creator>Source: Jajah In Middle Of Bidding War That Could Drive Price Up To $400 Million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was founded back in 2005 and in March 2006 introduced the world to a pretty decent consumer service that allowed cellphone users access Jajah’s low-cost calling system through their mobile devices, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2877727</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to consider using a mobile app that aggregates all providers and handles least-cost-routing of the added Finarea accounts to BMAX from iologue.com

The good part, that it&#039;s not VoIP based (outbound from your device) since its a callback to your originating phone to reach destination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to consider using a mobile app that aggregates all providers and handles least-cost-routing of the added Finarea accounts to BMAX from iologue.com</p>
<p>The good part, that it&#8217;s not VoIP based (outbound from your device) since its a callback to your originating phone to reach destination.</p>
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		<title>By: JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice &#124; Design Website</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2817902</link>
		<dc:creator>JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice &#124; Design Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CEO Trevor Healy says the service has attracted 25 million users since its launch, which means every user has on average made 40 calls through the company&#8217;s IP telephony [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2817857</link>
		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CEO Trevor Healy says the service has attracted 25 million users since its launch, which means every user has on average made 40 calls through the company’s IP telephony platform [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2817219</link>
		<dc:creator>JAJAH Connects 1 Billionth Call, Courtesy Of Yahoo Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CEO Trevor Healy says the service has attracted 25 million users since its launch, which means every user has on average made 40 calls through the company&#8217;s IP telephony [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 犬が星見た</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2801026</link>
		<dc:creator>犬が星見た</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt; 千夜一夜Podcast 第43夜 〜 Canis Minor Night 3...&lt;/strong&gt;

Linda Bjalla さんとの
こんな具合にお相手して頂きました。

5夜連続で上映中ですよー。

Canis Minor Nightは、子犬座という意味を込めまして。


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<p>Linda Bjalla さんとの<br />
こんな具合にお相手して頂きました。</p>
<p>5夜連続で上映中ですよー。</p>
<p>Canis Minor Nightは、子犬座という意味を込めまして。</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ThePet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-2487083</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I changed from JaJah to Vyke, they have both Mobile voip and callback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I changed from JaJah to Vyke, they have both Mobile voip and callback.</p>
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		<title>By: Was internationale Blogs &#252;ber deutsche Web-2.0-Dienste schreiben &#187; Beitrag &#187; zweinull.cc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-1607934</link>
		<dc:creator>Was internationale Blogs &#252;ber deutsche Web-2.0-Dienste schreiben &#187; Beitrag &#187; zweinull.cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JAJAH können User weltweit zu günstigen Kosten über das Internet telefonieren. Berichte bei TechCrunch 1 I TechCrunch 2 I GigaOm 1 I GigaOm 2 I Mashable 1 I Mashable 2 I Mashable 3 I Read/WriteWeb I Profy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] JAJAH können User weltweit zu günstigen Kosten über das Internet telefonieren. Berichte bei TechCrunch 1 I TechCrunch 2 I GigaOm 1 I GigaOm 2 I Mashable 1 I Mashable 2 I Mashable 3 I Read/WriteWeb I Profy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ShadowzBlog &#187; Happy Birthday Jajah: 2 Million Users</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-1384215</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadowzBlog &#187; Happy Birthday Jajah: 2 Million Users</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year after VOIP phone service Jajah launched their service, they’ve announced over 2 million registered users (Up from 1.2 announced [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JAJAH Lands $20 million Series C Funding From Intel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-1370084</link>
		<dc:creator>JAJAH Lands $20 million Series C Funding From Intel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Skype the company tries to avoid the apples and apples comparison. As we&#8217;ve previously reported, JAJAH&#8217;s VOIP service is point to point, bypassing the soft phone of other VOIP providers by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jajah Goes Mobile at The Forest of No Return</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-1335551</link>
		<dc:creator>Jajah Goes Mobile at The Forest of No Return</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jajah Just Launched Killer VOIP Product [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Talkster Launches VoIP Bridging Service For The Enterprise</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-681079</link>
		<dc:creator>Talkster Launches VoIP Bridging Service For The Enterprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-643567</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like Jajah is pissing off a lot of customers. People are having problems making phone calls and there are rate increases.

http://forum.jajah.com/viewforum.php?f=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Jajah is pissing off a lot of customers. People are having problems making phone calls and there are rate increases.</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.jajah.com/viewforum.php?f=2" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://forum.jajah.com/viewforum.php?f=2'>http://forum.ja...ewforum.php?f=2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Talkster Launches Presence-Based Service For The Enterprise at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-511357</link>
		<dc:creator>Talkster Launches Presence-Based Service For The Enterprise at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Talkster Launches Presence-Based Communication Beta at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-511269</link>
		<dc:creator>Talkster Launches Presence-Based Communication Beta at Swiss Podcast Directory and Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring in that it uses VOIP to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. But those services are highly targeted towards the consumer market, whereas Talkster is not. CEO James Wanless calls the consumer VoIP market a &#8220;race to the bottom of rates.&#8221; Talkster doesn&#8217;t want to play that game. Talkster has its sight set on the enterprise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Talkster Launches Presence-Based Communication Beta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-511216</link>
		<dc:creator>Techcrunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Talkster Launches Presence-Based Communication Beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tonight, Talkster is launching a beta of their new presence-based communication platform. On the surface, Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring, in that is uses a VOIP connection to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. Talkster differentiates itself by shying away from the consumer market, and what CEO James Wanless calls the race to the bottom of VOIP rates. Instead, they are setting their sights on the enterprise market and a focusing on a presence based product that aims to connect caller to caller despite the device. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tonight, Talkster is launching a beta of their new presence-based communication platform. On the surface, Talkster is similar to services like Jajah, Rebtel, Hullo, ConnectMeAnywhere, and Fring, in that is uses a VOIP connection to make cheap (currently free) long distance phone calls. Talkster differentiates itself by shying away from the consumer market, and what CEO James Wanless calls the race to the bottom of VOIP rates. Instead, they are setting their sights on the enterprise market and a focusing on a presence based product that aims to connect caller to caller despite the device. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-473664</link>
		<dc:creator>lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mike, for saving me the trouble.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Sykes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-468874</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was glad to hear someone say Jajah is is not what it claims to be...

I tried Jajah and discovered their business model was hazy and the claims on their web site misleading. For a Web 2.0 company - that’s a shame.
The issue is that Jajah claims that calls between registered users using land lines are free. Also they have a fair use policy which is OK and fair - you are limited to 60 minutes a day which is also fine. But…if you adhere to Jajah’s policy and respect their fair use policy - your calls should be free. They are not!

What happens is that you register two numbers in the designated &quot;Free&quot; zones and the first few calls are free...the web site even tells you: &quot;this call is free&quot; ... then...suddenly and without any warning or explanation... you get a message that you must pay Jajah or the free service is discontinued. 

I corresponded with the company at length and got back a tirade of “double-talk” claiming that to continue with the free service I needed to “maintain a positive credit balance” on Jajah’s account.

So I checked out the company again making sure I read everything(!) on their web site: I registered another land line, had a friend register his land line - both in the &quot;free call&quot; zone...and started the service. At first the web page shows the calls are free. Then, suddenly, a message appears that the call costs so and so cents…Even though its the same numbers and the Fair Use Policy is strictly respected - Viola the catch…My “65 cent credit line” disappeared and up came the request for payment…

Folks…this is not Skype… Skype is simple…Skype is free…Skype tells you clearly what, how much and when you need to pay. Jajah’s business model is simply a tricky ploy to get customers to pay for another VOIP service that in itself is not unique and not very competitive…If you want regular, non-PC, phone based service get 8x8 or sunrocket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was glad to hear someone say Jajah is is not what it claims to be&#8230;</p>
<p>I tried Jajah and discovered their business model was hazy and the claims on their web site misleading. For a Web 2.0 company &#8211; that’s a shame.<br />
The issue is that Jajah claims that calls between registered users using land lines are free. Also they have a fair use policy which is OK and fair &#8211; you are limited to 60 minutes a day which is also fine. But…if you adhere to Jajah’s policy and respect their fair use policy &#8211; your calls should be free. They are not!</p>
<p>What happens is that you register two numbers in the designated &#8220;Free&#8221; zones and the first few calls are free&#8230;the web site even tells you: &#8220;this call is free&#8221; &#8230; then&#8230;suddenly and without any warning or explanation&#8230; you get a message that you must pay Jajah or the free service is discontinued. </p>
<p>I corresponded with the company at length and got back a tirade of “double-talk” claiming that to continue with the free service I needed to “maintain a positive credit balance” on Jajah’s account.</p>
<p>So I checked out the company again making sure I read everything(!) on their web site: I registered another land line, had a friend register his land line &#8211; both in the &#8220;free call&#8221; zone&#8230;and started the service. At first the web page shows the calls are free. Then, suddenly, a message appears that the call costs so and so cents…Even though its the same numbers and the Fair Use Policy is strictly respected &#8211; Viola the catch…My “65 cent credit line” disappeared and up came the request for payment…</p>
<p>Folks…this is not Skype… Skype is simple…Skype is free…Skype tells you clearly what, how much and when you need to pay. Jajah’s business model is simply a tricky ploy to get customers to pay for another VOIP service that in itself is not unique and not very competitive…If you want regular, non-PC, phone based service get 8&#215;8 or sunrocket!</p>
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		<title>By: Jangl Uses VOIP to Create Anonymous Phone Numbers &#187; JenIT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-422918</link>
		<dc:creator>Jangl Uses VOIP to Create Anonymous Phone Numbers &#187; JenIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One way or the other, this is another interesting and innovative use of VOIP. While Skype celebrated its first instance of 8 million simultaneous users last week, its huge price tag is widely seen as a loss to the eBay community that has failed to use Skype in conjunction with auctions. Instead, services like Jangl, JaJah, Grand Central and now the newly released TalkPlus are all leveraging VOIP to connect the mobile and land line phones we&#8217;re already using. Will this be the real market viable application of VOIP technology? It could be, or it could be proof that the best use of this technology is still yet to come. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One way or the other, this is another interesting and innovative use of VOIP. While Skype celebrated its first instance of 8 million simultaneous users last week, its huge price tag is widely seen as a loss to the eBay community that has failed to use Skype in conjunction with auctions. Instead, services like Jangl, JaJah, Grand Central and now the newly released TalkPlus are all leveraging VOIP to connect the mobile and land line phones we&#8217;re already using. Will this be the real market viable application of VOIP technology? It could be, or it could be proof that the best use of this technology is still yet to come. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: XeTRA &#187; VoIP op je mobiel: Jajah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-338090</link>
		<dc:creator>XeTRA &#187; VoIP op je mobiel: Jajah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Afgelopen augustus maakte Ron er al melding van op MobileCowboys al iets over te lezen (VoIP op je GSM met Jajah). In september berichte TechCrunch er ook over: Jajah just launched killer VoIP product en op emerce.nl stond het bericht dat er in twee weken tijd 20.000 Jajah downloads zijn geweest. Deze berichten hadden mijn aandacht, vooral omdat de Jajah service wel op een VoIP dienst lijkt, zoals bijvoorbeeld Skype, maar het niet helmaal is. Eigenlijk is het beter te vergelijken met Carrier Pre-Select voor mobiel (in de eerste fase). Vergelijkbaar met de callback services van de jaren &#8216;90. Eerst nummer bellen, over laten gaan en dan teruggebeld worden. Gelukkig werkt het niet zo slecht als toen. Jajah is eenvoudig en briljant in zijn opzet! Waarom is dit briljant? Eindelijk is er concurrentie voor mobiele operators. En nog wel op hun eigen netwerk. En persoonlijk hoop ik dat deze concurrentie op een vergelijkbare manier verloopt als in de jaren negentig. Namelijk het goedkoper maken van het bellen via mobiel. Het gebruik van Jajah, mits je het beperkt houdt, volledig gratis. Aanvullend bieden zij, tegen betaling, ook meer belminuten, SMS en andere diensten aan. Op dit moment is het alleen beschikbaar voor Symbian en is het gebaseerd op een Java applicatie die het gedraaide nummer via het Jajah netwerk afhandelt. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Afgelopen augustus maakte Ron er al melding van op MobileCowboys al iets over te lezen (VoIP op je GSM met Jajah). In september berichte TechCrunch er ook over: Jajah just launched killer VoIP product en op emerce.nl stond het bericht dat er in twee weken tijd 20.000 Jajah downloads zijn geweest. Deze berichten hadden mijn aandacht, vooral omdat de Jajah service wel op een VoIP dienst lijkt, zoals bijvoorbeeld Skype, maar het niet helmaal is. Eigenlijk is het beter te vergelijken met Carrier Pre-Select voor mobiel (in de eerste fase). Vergelijkbaar met de callback services van de jaren &#8216;90. Eerst nummer bellen, over laten gaan en dan teruggebeld worden. Gelukkig werkt het niet zo slecht als toen. Jajah is eenvoudig en briljant in zijn opzet! Waarom is dit briljant? Eindelijk is er concurrentie voor mobiele operators. En nog wel op hun eigen netwerk. En persoonlijk hoop ik dat deze concurrentie op een vergelijkbare manier verloopt als in de jaren negentig. Namelijk het goedkoper maken van het bellen via mobiel. Het gebruik van Jajah, mits je het beperkt houdt, volledig gratis. Aanvullend bieden zij, tegen betaling, ook meer belminuten, SMS en andere diensten aan. Op dit moment is het alleen beschikbaar voor Symbian en is het gebaseerd op een Java applicatie die het gedraaide nummer via het Jajah netwerk afhandelt. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Emery</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-306852</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brian
Drew was complimenting you, chill out man... sheesh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian<br />
Drew was complimenting you, chill out man&#8230; sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jajah Goes Mobile &#171; The Forest of No Return</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-277983</link>
		<dc:creator>Jajah Goes Mobile &#171; The Forest of No Return</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jajah Just Launched Killer VOIP Product [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver Thylmann&#8217;s Blog &#187; Now a Jajah Member</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-238148</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Thylmann&#8217;s Blog &#187; Now a Jajah Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/#comment-238148</guid>
		<description>[...] Ok, I couldn&#8217;t resist anymore after this post on Techcrunch. It talks about the new app that Jajah has just released which is a kind of plugin for your mobile phone, or for my Nokia N70 at least. It simply reroutes my calls via Jajah, making international calling a lot cheaper. I already have a phone flatrate but this only applies for germany. I will have to turn it off while being in Germany and calling people in Germany. But to EU countries and the USA it costs me 69 cents per minute with Base and 15 cents per minute with Jajah. Now that&#8217;s nice. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ok, I couldn&#8217;t resist anymore after this post on Techcrunch. It talks about the new app that Jajah has just released which is a kind of plugin for your mobile phone, or for my Nokia N70 at least. It simply reroutes my calls via Jajah, making international calling a lot cheaper. I already have a phone flatrate but this only applies for germany. I will have to turn it off while being in Germany and calling people in Germany. But to EU countries and the USA it costs me 69 cents per minute with Base and 15 cents per minute with Jajah. Now that&#8217;s nice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rune Sovndahl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-237016</link>
		<dc:creator>Rune Sovndahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/#comment-237016</guid>
		<description>Call-back is actually a 10- 15 years old product and has never really reached any critical mass, this however might happen with the new services offering the same products with easier SMS and IP, 3g and data initiated call-back request is interesting, however the key is still the end users and their understand and adaptation of the products. 

Callback is inherently flawed as it takes  minimum two calls instead of one, it makes for a nice periodical replacement while companies like www.briing.com manages to get the wholesale prices right and makes the vMVNO possible using application that uses access number interconnect agreement.

Briing.com is an alternative to the VoIP services, which concerns access number, interconnect rates, and makes it a lot easier for the end user also to understand pricing and use. Briing Mobile saver so far only works in the UK so far, and can only offer direct free calls in the UK. http://www.briing.com/saver a smart java application, not yet on the symbian OS phones but on all the real handsets out there. The nokia 6230, series 40 phones, this is where the majority of phone users are, the N series E series Nokia is so far has very little penetration. 

There are still a whole lot of people with older phones, and who are not necessarily changing phones quickly. It is only in the UK phone are completely subsidised by a contract and are &quot;free&quot;. 

It will be an intersting battle, the operators, vs voip services and access call back, the sure winners are going to be the wwholesale price brokers and the consumers. The rest is up to wit and consumer adaptation and critical mass saturation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call-back is actually a 10- 15 years old product and has never really reached any critical mass, this however might happen with the new services offering the same products with easier SMS and IP, 3g and data initiated call-back request is interesting, however the key is still the end users and their understand and adaptation of the products. </p>
<p>Callback is inherently flawed as it takes  minimum two calls instead of one, it makes for a nice periodical replacement while companies like <a href="http://www.briing.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.briing.com'>http://www.briing.com</a> manages to get the wholesale prices right and makes the vMVNO possible using application that uses access number interconnect agreement.</p>
<p>Briing.com is an alternative to the VoIP services, which concerns access number, interconnect rates, and makes it a lot easier for the end user also to understand pricing and use. Briing Mobile saver so far only works in the UK so far, and can only offer direct free calls in the UK. <a href="http://www.briing.com/saver" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.briing.com/saver'>http://www.briing.com/saver</a> a smart java application, not yet on the symbian OS phones but on all the real handsets out there. The nokia 6230, series 40 phones, this is where the majority of phone users are, the N series E series Nokia is so far has very little penetration. </p>
<p>There are still a whole lot of people with older phones, and who are not necessarily changing phones quickly. It is only in the UK phone are completely subsidised by a contract and are &#8220;free&#8221;. </p>
<p>It will be an intersting battle, the operators, vs voip services and access call back, the sure winners are going to be the wwholesale price brokers and the consumers. The rest is up to wit and consumer adaptation and critical mass saturation</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Straub</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/comment-page-2/#comment-236953</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Straub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/26/jajah-just-launched-killer-voip-product/#comment-236953</guid>
		<description>(( truphone )) versus JaJah

I have it on my Nokia 6680 installed. I used the service recently to call my sister in Spain.

JaJah service is OK when you are on the road and you call from GSM rather than WiFi for an international call only. Within a country it is much more expensive than the mobile tarrif. Even calling international you get charged an outgoing SMS or GPRS data bundle connection fee once, which you need to add to your bill

However if you are at home or a WiFi hotspot the service is very expensive compared to the (( truphone )) service. While the call to Spain cost 8 pence with (( truphone )), JaJah charges 32 pence. + your SMS, GPRS connect. So it is around 4 times (400%) more expensive; it holds also true that the least cost routing solution they build is quite simple to emulate and the applicable could be bundled to the more forward looking (( truphone )) service. Another downfall I discovered is the hassle of waiting before it connects the call. For a fast moving business executive a hassle which I felt would be unacceptable. And lets not forget (( truphone )) offers free calls to almost all landline (1.6 bn) in the world. Everybody should have the possibility to get a Nokia E60 with this kind of saving on the Mobile Bill to experience the cristal clear call quality of http://www.truphone  . What an amazing forward looking service they offer. The world will be building an alternative Cellular Network quickly if they make a big break of the existing paradigm. A homage of a very satisfied (( truphone )) user.</description>
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<p>I have it on my Nokia 6680 installed. I used the service recently to call my sister in Spain.</p>
<p>JaJah service is OK when you are on the road and you call from GSM rather than WiFi for an international call only. Within a country it is much more expensive than the mobile tarrif. Even calling international you get charged an outgoing SMS or GPRS data bundle connection fee once, which you need to add to your bill</p>
<p>However if you are at home or a WiFi hotspot the service is very expensive compared to the (( truphone )) service. While the call to Spain cost 8 pence with (( truphone )), JaJah charges 32 pence. + your SMS, GPRS connect. So it is around 4 times (400%) more expensive; it holds also true that the least cost routing solution they build is quite simple to emulate and the applicable could be bundled to the more forward looking (( truphone )) service. Another downfall I discovered is the hassle of waiting before it connects the call. For a fast moving business executive a hassle which I felt would be unacceptable. And lets not forget (( truphone )) offers free calls to almost all landline (1.6 bn) in the world. Everybody should have the possibility to get a Nokia E60 with this kind of saving on the Mobile Bill to experience the cristal clear call quality of <a href="http://www.truphone" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.truphone'>http://www.truphone</a>  . What an amazing forward looking service they offer. The world will be building an alternative Cellular Network quickly if they make a big break of the existing paradigm. A homage of a very satisfied (( truphone )) user.</p>
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