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]]> By: bigbob http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-209691 bigbob Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:27:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-209691 There may not ever be 'millions of zune users'. This sounds like a load of crap and a big invesment down the drain for MS. There may not ever be ‘millions of zune users’. This sounds like a load of crap and a big invesment down the drain for MS.

]]> By: Changing Way » Blog Archive » DRM: A Review and a Rant http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-209449 Changing Way » Blog Archive » DRM: A Review and a Rant Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:02:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-209449 [...] I see a lot of posts about DRM. Two in particular got my attention recently. One is the TechCrunch review of the past week in DRM Wonderland. [...] [...] I see a lot of posts about DRM. Two in particular got my attention recently. One is the TechCrunch review of the past week in DRM Wonderland. [...]

]]> By: Mind Booster Noori http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-209431 Mind Booster Noori Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:52:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-209431 <blockquote><i>But our overall view stays much the same - most consumers are prepared to pay a fair price for what they regard as fair use, DRM or no DRM. Ease of use, flexibility and reliability are equally important factors in adoption of a system - if its much worse to use than free systems it will be bypassed..</i></blockquote> Well, DRM is completely <a href="http://defectivebydesign.org/" rel="nofollow">Defective by Design</a>, but one of the big problems of it is exactly that DRM takes the "ease of use" and "flexibility" from it's users...

But our overall view stays much the same – most consumers are prepared to pay a fair price for what they regard as fair use, DRM or no DRM. Ease of use, flexibility and reliability are equally important factors in adoption of a system – if its much worse to use than free systems it will be bypassed..

Well, DRM is completely Defective by Design, but one of the big problems of it is exactly that DRM takes the “ease of use” and “flexibility” from it’s users…

]]> By: Jim O http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-209388 Jim O Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:41:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-209388 Interoperable DRM is happening in Asia and starting Internationally The Solutions partners with a range of DRM providers and similarly with device Manufacturers to create a 1:1 many effect . ie One device can then play many flavours of DRM and thus the paid for content market should get bigger. Compliant with OMA and MS DRM. Got to be the way forward for all .More details are below http://www.globalnetsync.com/ Interoperable DRM is happening in Asia and starting Internationally The Solutions partners with a range of DRM providers and similarly with device Manufacturers to create a 1:1 many effect . ie One device can then play many flavours of DRM and thus the paid for content market should get bigger. Compliant with OMA and MS DRM. Got to be the way forward for all .More details are below

http://www.globalnetsync.com/

]]> By: Matt Sephton http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-208874 Matt Sephton Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:51:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-208874 Could YouTube be using the Shazam technology to "hear" and identify music? <a href="http://www.shazam.com/music/portal/sp/s/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default/template/pages/p/company_profile.html" rel="nofollow">www.shazam.com</a> Could YouTube be using the Shazam technology to “hear” and identify music? http://www.shazam.com

]]> By: John Beales http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-208684 John Beales Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:26:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-208684 Yeah, DRM's a real pain in the ass. In Canada there are certain rights which exist, (for example as a choreographer am be allowed to give copies of a recording to my dancers so they can familiarize themselves with the music we are using and rehearse on their own if they choose to), and if my original source has DRM I'm screwed. I would also be screwed when it came to making a copy to be used in the actual performance, (also allowed under Canadian law). DRM really needs to address these issues. Along the lines of Zune not playing Windows Media DRM files my sister had a similar experience recently. She bought a laptop, copied all of her ripped tracks, (which she OWNS the CDs of), onto it and moved accross the country to attend university. When she got there she discovered that she could not play the music she owns becasue Windows Media Player had attached a "Personal License" to her files making it so they will not play on any computer but the one that was used to rip them. She can update her license by connecting to a Microsoft server but that is an invasion of privacy and a hassle to do for every track. Also, it is true that personal licensing can be turned off when you rip your tracks but unless you have had an experience like this you'd never even know it was happening. In short, DRM really needs to be worked over. I support the principle of making sure that artists are paid for their work but there has to be a better way. Yeah, DRM’s a real pain in the ass. In Canada there are certain rights which exist, (for example as a choreographer am be allowed to give copies of a recording to my dancers so they can familiarize themselves with the music we are using and rehearse on their own if they choose to), and if my original source has DRM I’m screwed. I would also be screwed when it came to making a copy to be used in the actual performance, (also allowed under Canadian law). DRM really needs to address these issues.

Along the lines of Zune not playing Windows Media DRM files my sister had a similar experience recently. She bought a laptop, copied all of her ripped tracks, (which she OWNS the CDs of), onto it and moved accross the country to attend university. When she got there she discovered that she could not play the music she owns becasue Windows Media Player had attached a “Personal License” to her files making it so they will not play on any computer but the one that was used to rip them. She can update her license by connecting to a Microsoft server but that is an invasion of privacy and a hassle to do for every track. Also, it is true that personal licensing can be turned off when you rip your tracks but unless you have had an experience like this you’d never even know it was happening.

In short, DRM really needs to be worked over. I support the principle of making sure that artists are paid for their work but there has to be a better way.

]]> By: ¿Hacia el comunismo cultural? « La central de datos http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-208530 ¿Hacia el comunismo cultural? « La central de datos Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:10:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-208530 [...] Por eso, siempre se agradecen artículos como el que publica hoy TechCrunch en el que se realiza una interesante puesta al día de las noticias más relevantes aparecidas en esta intensa semana relativas a este tema y las tecnologías que incidirán sobre la agenda en torno a la autoría. Como comentario personal, hay que decir que es agradable el tono de perplejidad y mesura mostrado en el artículo, muy lejos de las soflamas de nuestros opositores al canon. [...] [...] Por eso, siempre se agradecen artículos como el que publica hoy TechCrunch en el que se realiza una interesante puesta al día de las noticias más relevantes aparecidas en esta intensa semana relativas a este tema y las tecnologías que incidirán sobre la agenda en torno a la autoría. Como comentario personal, hay que decir que es agradable el tono de perplejidad y mesura mostrado en el artículo, muy lejos de las soflamas de nuestros opositores al canon. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 不思議の国のDRMの一週間 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-208167 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 不思議の国のDRMの一週間 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:01:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-208167 [...] ［原文へ］ [...] [...] ［原文へ］ [...]

]]> By: Daveed http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207865 Daveed Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:54:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207865 I get nervous with how YouTube is going. People are creating videos to put on their site. Many of them are video blogs who may use snippets of music in their post. They are not making money through youtube. That is against youtube's TOS as far as I understand it. Thus why does YouTube think its a good idea to restrict creative content? I get nervous with how YouTube is going.

People are creating videos to put on their site. Many of them are video blogs who may use snippets of music in their post. They are not making money through youtube. That is against youtube’s TOS as far as I understand it. Thus why does YouTube think its a good idea to restrict creative content?

]]> By: » Blog Archive » Microsoft Clones Apple Again. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207686 » Blog Archive » Microsoft Clones Apple Again. Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:08:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207686 [...] Microsoft has copied Apple again, releasing the new Zune (= iPod) and Zune Marketplace (= iTunes). In usual Microsoft fashion, they came later and more poorly designed (see zune problems). Previously, Microsoft could show up late to the party and become the center of attention because they owned the house, or could aquire it with their billions. That’s all changed with the video and music download market. Whereas previously Microsoft could leverage its operating system to gain market share through the power of being the default, media downloads have migrated away from windows. Whereas the operating system was the old standard for applications, DRM is the new standard of note in the music realm. Apple has been using DRM to shield itself from outside intrusion into its network, and it seems to be working so far. Microsoft has also been moving away from it’s media player, as it starts to test a new flash based beta player on msnbc. I think the winners in this category will follow with who controls or doesn’t control DRM. With this in mind, Yahoo’s little DRM experiment could prove particularly disruptive. [...] [...] Microsoft has copied Apple again, releasing the new Zune (= iPod) and Zune Marketplace (= iTunes). In usual Microsoft fashion, they came later and more poorly designed (see zune problems). Previously, Microsoft could show up late to the party and become the center of attention because they owned the house, or could aquire it with their billions. That’s all changed with the video and music download market. Whereas previously Microsoft could leverage its operating system to gain market share through the power of being the default, media downloads have migrated away from windows. Whereas the operating system was the old standard for applications, DRM is the new standard of note in the music realm. Apple has been using DRM to shield itself from outside intrusion into its network, and it seems to be working so far. Microsoft has also been moving away from it’s media player, as it starts to test a new flash based beta player on msnbc. I think the winners in this category will follow with who controls or doesn’t control DRM. With this in mind, Yahoo’s little DRM experiment could prove particularly disruptive. [...]

]]> By: Patricia http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207591 Patricia Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:11:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207591 Ok, Jessica Simpson is a terrible singer - her album didn't do well and I'm sure giving it away helped. But what about with real money-making artists? Ok, Jessica Simpson is a terrible singer – her album didn’t do well and I’m sure giving it away helped. But what about with real money-making artists?

]]> By: NeoTechie http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207535 NeoTechie Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:39:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207535 Historically, the arts (MP3s) have been free to share to everyone. Unfortunately, today, everyone is concerned about getting a piece of the pie. Thus, those who can’t afford the arts are deprived. Historically, the arts (MP3s) have been free to share to everyone. Unfortunately, today, everyone is concerned about getting a piece of the pie. Thus, those who can’t afford the arts are deprived.

]]> By: Michael Grimm http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207319 Michael Grimm Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:54:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207319 Consumer/Media DRM is a mess right now... there are too many technologies that don't work together. Can't someone develop a DRM standard? Consumer/Media DRM is a mess right now… there are too many technologies that don’t work together.

Can’t someone develop a DRM standard?

]]> By: alan http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207179 alan Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:51:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207179 If it helps we did an article for Broadcast Engineering on DRM trends <a href="http://www.broadsight.com/Articles" rel="nofollow">here</a> earlier this year......I don't think a lot has changed at the strategic level. Two new trends we didn't cover then (i) The worrying new development is the overwriting of creative commons licences by DRM, this is the thin edge of the potential for riding over the user self-production rights. (ii) The fascinating new development of the rise in sales of analog products such as vinyl 7 singles among the teens.........I wonder if its partly a reaction against paying for something thats not actually yours after all. But our overall view stays much the same - most consumers are prepared to pay a fair price for what they regard as fair use, DRM or no DRM. Ease of use, flexibility and reliability are equally important factors in adoption of a system - if its much worse to use than free systems it will be bypassed.. If it helps we did an article for Broadcast Engineering on DRM trends here earlier this year……I don’t think a lot has changed at the strategic level.

Two new trends we didn’t cover then

(i) The worrying new development is the overwriting of creative commons licences by DRM, this is the thin edge of the potential for riding over the user self-production rights.

(ii) The fascinating new development of the rise in sales of analog products such as vinyl 7 singles among the teens………I wonder if its partly a reaction against paying for something thats not actually yours after all.

But our overall view stays much the same – most consumers are prepared to pay a fair price for what they regard as fair use, DRM or no DRM. Ease of use, flexibility and reliability are equally important factors in adoption of a system – if its much worse to use than free systems it will be bypassed..

]]> By: Dark Applications of YouTube’s Copyright-Detecting Technology at The Gong Show http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207172 Dark Applications of YouTube’s Copyright-Detecting Technology at The Gong Show Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:46:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207172 [...] A couple of sources of celebrated YouTube’s recent announcement that they have technology which can recognize copyrighted music in videos when a video is uploaded. YouTube’s using this technology to work with Warner music in order to license the content as it’s uploaded (instead of being forced to remove the content under DMCA compliance). Most of the praise is for the deal with Warner, but I fear that there is a great hidden cost in this deal in the new technology involved. [...] [...] A couple of sources of celebrated YouTube’s recent announcement that they have technology which can recognize copyrighted music in videos when a video is uploaded. YouTube’s using this technology to work with Warner music in order to license the content as it’s uploaded (instead of being forced to remove the content under DMCA compliance). Most of the praise is for the deal with Warner, but I fear that there is a great hidden cost in this deal in the new technology involved. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Boots http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207133 Stephen Boots Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:27:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207133 Zuneinsider just corrected the bit about wrapping all tunes in DRM - http://www.zuneinsider.com/2006/09/zune_and_drm_or.html Zuneinsider just corrected the bit about wrapping all tunes in DRM – http://www.zune...and_drm_or.html

]]> By: Phil's Osophies™ http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207121 Phil's Osophies™ Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:23:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207121 <strong>Techcrunch > Blog Archive > A week in DRM wonderland...</strong> As I prepare to put my own company's media online, DRM and copyright keeps popping up in my head. I had the thought the other day, "what's to keep tweenies from buying a show then posting it on YouTube for all the world to see for free?&... Techcrunch > Blog Archive > A week in DRM wonderland…

As I prepare to put my own company's media online, DRM and copyright keeps popping up in my head. I had the thought the other day, "what's to keep tweenies from buying a show then posting it on YouTube for all the world to see for free?&…

]]> By: Steve Poland http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207084 Steve Poland Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:04:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207084 The other big news today is that Apple just sold 125,000 films ($1 million in sales) online by Disney in less than a week since their launch of digital movie sales via iTunes. People (including myself) are arguing that you should have the ability to burn digital movie purchases to DVD, like songs from iTunes to CDs, but is this really necessary? I've <a href="http://www.vestedventures.com/blog/2006/09/apple-continues-domination-of-digital.html" rel="nofollow">posted about this</a> and also why Microsoft, Amazon, Yahoo, Wal-Mart, Real, all the digital music / video hardware manufacturers, studios, and record labels need to WAKE UP. Interoperability is their ONLY option. The other big news today is that Apple just sold 125,000 films ($1 million in sales) online by Disney in less than a week since their launch of digital movie sales via iTunes. People (including myself) are arguing that you should have the ability to burn digital movie purchases to DVD, like songs from iTunes to CDs, but is this really necessary? I’ve posted about this and also why Microsoft, Amazon, Yahoo, Wal-Mart, Real, all the digital music / video hardware manufacturers, studios, and record labels need to WAKE UP. Interoperability is their ONLY option.

]]> By: Mirko http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207077 Mirko Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:59:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207077 It's actually funny to see people surprised about the Zune situation, they should expect problems with a piece of hardware that comes from Microsoft. DRM is a dead duck, there's just too much music available online as it is. The solution is somewhere else, this results only in confusion. It’s actually funny to see people surprised about the Zune situation, they should expect problems with a piece of hardware that comes from Microsoft.

DRM is a dead duck, there’s just too much music available online as it is. The solution is somewhere else, this results only in confusion.

]]> By: free video lover http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207057 free video lover Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:49:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207057 taking about youtube, did you see the <a href="http://www.ilovevideoz.com/firstofthebest.aspx" rel="nofollow">free video parade</a> ? taking about youtube, did you see the free video parade ?

]]> By: Tcruncher2 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-207053 Tcruncher2 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:47:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/19/a-week-in-drm-wonderland/#comment-207053 Good coverage Marshall. Not too sure about Microsoft not covering Creative Commons? I definately think this is going to be a big thorn in the side of millions of zune users if Microsoft dont do something to protect the choice of users that select CC licences. Removing DRM Rights all together seems like a practical experiment considering that just about everyone I know that has an IPOD, pretty much has the good old "Napster" or "Shareaza" songs anyway. Or uses the Russian allofmp3.com site to buy DRM free music. Either way, I look at it that this site has made an absolute fortune and if Yahoo! has any sense they will follow suite. Good coverage Marshall. Not too sure about Microsoft not covering Creative Commons? I definately think this is going to be a big thorn in the side of millions of zune users if Microsoft dont do something to protect the choice of users that select CC licences.

Removing DRM Rights all together seems like a practical experiment considering that just about everyone I know that has an IPOD, pretty much has the good old “Napster” or “Shareaza” songs anyway. Or uses the Russian allofmp3.com site to buy DRM free music.

Either way, I look at it that this site has made an absolute fortune and if Yahoo! has any sense they will follow suite.

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