Microsoft YouTube Clone Coming

The question is , will they use Flash to play the files? or their own crappy Windows Media?

Crappy Windows Media i bet.
It’s sad.

Can you find someone who has access to the beta service and a well-oiled printscreen key Michael?

Whoa, I never thought of that [whether they'll use Flash or not]. I’m assuming that they would be using Flash because of its ability to compress videos. Keeping that many Windows Media Player files on their servers may consume way too much bandwidth.

Clearly it’s Windows Media encoded files. Amit, Windows Media files are indeed compressed and are comparable in size to Flash. Some people prefer the visual quality of Flash, which typically use On2 or Sorenson codecs.

it’s beyond me why it’s taken this long for people to allow video uploads…so ridiculous.

Everyone wants a piece of the action and Web 2.0 allows them to participate. To the participants, your users should and for most be your priority not money. Your revenue will increase if you give users something memorable and useful to come back to.

Changing your interface and not altering using ahead of time is total disrespect for users.

Web 2.0 is great , so we should strive to keep it that way.

Microsoft’s Bandwagon Jumping Department is at it again. Since their purchase of Hotmail, their investments have been going towards that department instead of R&D. Understanding this immense company requires a steady revenue, edging towards the safer bet seems the only way.

Man atleast Microsoft has a good idea this time… oh wait. Nevermind.

Ah yes. If Google chases youtube and adds the ability to upload video, then its called innovation. If microsoft adds that same ability, it’s called desperation.

BTW- you morons, the reason youtube uses flash isnt because of any compression. It’s because flash is the single most widlely distributed plugin on earth, and this means that people going to youtube don’t have to download any plugin when they go to the site.

Downloading a plugin is considered the “magic step” which most non-computer-literate people can’t figure out how to do.

By using flash, youtube works instantly for the vast majority of users. Using flash was the single best thing that youtube ever did.

However, microsoft has an advantage- they can automatically download better plugins that use xvid or other high compression codecs with their automatic updates, thus giving their video service a level of quality and resolution that youtube can only dream about.

There’s an xvid youtube clone out there, i forget the URL, but they’re showing HDTV quality widescreen video clips with the exact same interface as youtube. the only problem- you have to click “yes” to download their codec and most people are afraid to do that in the age of viruses.

this is the youtube clone:

http://stage6.divx.com/index

the funny play is …..the real money is in searching these videos. Now that we have enabled people to post and host their schtick online …..does it really matter what service it is being hosted on? Not really. Not if google finds it organizes it and links me too it, and other relevant things i might be interested in.

cheers

scott

Hey, Bill, why this me-too attempt under an uncool brand? Go buy YouTube already! You know you want to — it’s just a billion dollars.

Will they ever do anything original and not copy of steal it.

This is so typical microsoft

Finally, a video service that will give me good quality videos. YouTube is still
encoding in low 200k cruddy Sorenson Flash 7 encoding. About time someone gives YT a run for their (lack of) money.

As far as Google searching for videos, ever searched for videos on Google Video Search? They only search for videos on Google Video. Last time I checked on the new beta Windows Live Video search, majority of results were from all video sites.

It’s always amusing to see how many stories contain “Microsoft clones X”. And I don’t mean on TechCrunch, I mean in general over the years. Microsoft certainly lacks innovation. What do they do? Look around see.. oh YouTube is pretty big! Have we got one of those? Nope? OK let’s copy it. zzzzzzz

You guys criticizing Microsoft for “cloning” YouTube, did you say the same regarding Google’s video service (which sucks hard, BTW)?

I can remember the last time Google actually did anything original.
Let’s look at Google’s recent “innovations”, shall we?
1. Spreadsheets (not original, there were web-based spreadsheets long before Google’s, and all much better than Google’s).
2. Buying a word processor web app (yep, that’s some innovation for you).
3. Creating a credit card processor (more innovation… NOT)

Oh, and we hear that Google is about to create a music store (a *very* original idea) and an online movie store (too bad CinemaNow.com and MovieLink.com have been doing this *for years* and even Amazon beat Google to the punch here).

Sorry, fanboys, MS is no different than Google when it comes to originality, yet you condemn MS while orgasm at any rehash that Google releases.

I think that MS is releasing this service under MSN rather than Live because MSN Video already exists (video.msn.com; it has news clips, sports hilites, movie trailers, music videos, and a bunch of stuff, but they’re all “commercial” videos). This “SoapBox on MSN Video” is extending MSN Video to allow sharing of home-made videos.

Being part of MSN Video suggests that it will use Windows Media but will it provide better quality or not? None of these YT-clone services appear to have cracked that providing the quality that people are coming to expect does actually cost money - probably more than they can generate from social networking…

Connect this to xbox live please then i’ll be happy

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San Pedro: The point was that size of a company is inversly proportional to their level of innovation. Google, AOL or Yahoo are no exception. The topic just happens to be about Microsoft.

Although Microsoft still owns corporate America and that’s going to take a while to change, Google has managed to become an actual threat to Microsoft… (just in terms of web visibility). Google has respect and ability to deliver. Naturally, MS is trying to steal their thunder so not to lose any more visibility (or marketing power). Google might do the same thing and edge towards the OS, OA tool, browser market.

Google has not innovated since 1996, when its search was developed. Let’s see what they’ve done since:

Google Pack blows (WTF?)
Google Video blows (Killed by a 3-person garage startup from San Mateo)
Google Talk blows (I don’t know anyone who uses it)
Google Base blows (WTF?? Was this one of their April Fools jokes?)
Google Finance blows (yay a crappy ripoff)
Google Spreadsheets blows (so this is what innovation is in 2006?)
Froogle blows (They killed it, axed from the front page)
Gmail.. ok not bad. Wow. WEB EMAIL! Yay! WOW that has never been done!

Note that all of the above suck and none are market leaders. Not even close.

Google: stick with search, stop releasing pathetic, stupid products.

Does anyone know how I can check out this site?

Google have one, Yahoo have one, Apple have the movie traillers, Microsoft need to have one…
xD

I don’t get why so many people are against google or microsoft creating their own variation of community video. Because YouTube is the most popular, does that mean no other company can do it? I think the more the better. In time the companies will come out with unique ideas (innovate) that sway consumers to their product. But then again I think that copyright and patents stifle innovation so I guess a YouTube video monopoly (or microsoft for that matter) runs counter to my beliefs. It doesn’t matter to me if there is one or 100 video sites out there. One becomes the best by what one offers and not by resting on one’s laurels. That’s what makes the internet a great place. Anyone who is anti-(insert company name here) is someone who doesn’t appreciate the true nature of the internet and, to me, doesn’t deserve to be called a technologist.

Ronjit Gosh Google has not innovated since 1996, when its search was developed.

I’m glad I’m not taking stock picking advice from you.

How does Microsoft keep coming up with these innovations?

They are amazing . . .

This is under the MSN moniker because MSN videos has been around since Feb 2004 and is the 4th most visted video site - ahead of google btw. fighting for scraps below Youtube:

http://www.hitwise.com/press-c.....search.php

What’s killing them is length of visit which obviously reflect one video and out. So they are trying to get on the user generated content bandwagon. Oh Shame! Name a company that isn’t.

Also, video ads are the fastest growing area in web advertising and everyone is looking for ways to capitalize.

What I would like to know is how people who are the 10th in line to make the tired “microsoft is copying!!!!!” comment can bear to do it when they are just copying what half the comments have said already without adding anything new. Man, that is good comedy. Talk about zzzzzzzz.

I don’t bother with sites that are based on WMV — probably means Microsoft’s site won’t interest me.

As for the topic of Google and Microsoft copying vs innovation, I’d say that the anti-Google crowd makes a good point. But it’s only fair to point out that this crowd seems to purposely be ignoring a top Google release: maps.google.com, way better than mapquest or any other webmapper I’ve seen.

maps.google.com is inferior to mapping service that Yahoo! has.

Google Maps and Google Earth were each developed by other companies that Google acquired — Where2 and Keyhole, respectively. Certainly those companies were innovative, but you can’t attribute that innovation to Google.

I’m curious how Microsoft’s late entry into the YouTube-type of application will fare. Obviously at some point (soon?) there will be consolidation….

Microsoft is just a late entry here, there are several other small players which are launching their products in same market. Here is the proof of its popularity….
http://www.webscripts.in/blog/youtubecom-clone/

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